that is all they could ever hope for. >> that is certainly the place of the president was from where president obama was speaking today. >> that is our show today. >> thanks for watching. the reverend al sharpton's interview with trayvon martin's parents is coming up next. nearly 17 months ago on a rainy night in sanford, florida, 17-year-old trayvon martin was shot and killed. five days ago, george zimmerman was found not guilty in his death. since then, we have seen a huge reaction, protests around the country, calls for boycott of florida, a new debate on race and guns. even a statement from the president of the united states. but there are two people we haven't heard much from, tray von's parents, sa brin that fulton and tracy martin. tonight, they are here and for the next hour, we will talk about their reaction to the

verdict, the jury, what is next for them, and, of course we will talk about the young man they called tray. tonight on "politics nation," trayvon martin's parents after the verdict. >> the state of florida versus george zimmerman. the verdict, we, the jury, find george zimmerman not guilty. so say we all. >> sybrina fulton and tracy martin and their attorney benjamin crump. first, thank you all for being here tonight. >> thank you, reverend sharpton. >> it's been five days since the verdict. first of all, how are you all doing? >> one day at a time, one day at a time. >> what have you been doing the last five days recovering from this, reacting to this, getting yourself stronger. what has the last five days been like? >> most of the time, i slept or

i tried to sleep. a lot of praying. you know, i just didn't want to get in touch with family. they were texting me, they were calling me, but i just wanted my own time, my own time with god, my own time with myself just to get myself together and get my mind together and get my thoughts together. >> what about you, tracy? >> basically, the last five days, just trying to get my composure. try to get myself together. i have to be strong. not only for my family but there are countless young men and women out there counting on us to be strong. >> last saturday when the verdict came in, i was in mid-town manhattan and they called the verdict is coming and we rushed to the studio. the one thing i noticed is you all were not in the courtroom. every day, you all were there. did you purposely not come? did you feel that the verdict was going to be a not guilty verdict and you didn't want to

be there? why weren't you all in the courtroom? >> i think it was more about our actions. we were told, you know, by the court system that there could be no loud outbursts, no reactions, no emotions. that, xumed couple coupled wits advice we couldn't contain our emotions either way. we decided that it wasn't a good idea for us to go. so that was just the only day we missed and, you know, i'm glad we did. >> how did you react? >> man, i broke down, because i was in disbelief. i just didn't -- i couldn't understand why the jury came back with -- came back with the verdict that they did. i felt as though there were a substantial amount of evidence to convict him of second-degree murder. >> disbelief.

i mean, when i heard them say not guilty, i thought it was two counts. i was waiting on the second count and then it was just over like that. it was kind of stunning. >> shocking. right. >> lirmt shoall right. shocking. how is jahvaris doing? trayvon's brother. >> he watches attention to what we say and what we do and how we react, so he's doing well. he is coming along. he is taking it one day at a time. he is remaining prayerful and, you know, he is surrounded by family and friends. >> did you watch the attorneys after the verdict, their press statements, the defense attorneys when they held a press conference? >> yes. >> what was your reaction to what they had to say? >> i didn't -- i haven't watched any of the press releases. i just couldn't get myself in front of the tv to see what they had to say. i just felt that as a father who

had lost his child, i felt that his life had been made a mockery of, so i couldn't just stand in front of the tv and watch them parade, so to speak, on national television. >> why do you feel that trayvon's life was made a mockery of? >> i just didn't feel as though the jurors -- not all of the sanford police or some of the sanford police department didn't take this serious at all and i just, as i said, i just didn't feel that his life value meant anything to them. >> sybrina, you said you saw some of it. what your reaction to the press conference by the defense attorneys? >> let me just go back. as i said in the courtroom, it just seemed to me as though trayvon was on trial and this

trial was not about trayvon. this trial was about george zimmerman and what he did that night. but it just constantly seemed to me like they were trying to just bring things up that trayvon had done. i mean, who hasn't done things as a 17-year-old, you know? so i think they put more responsibility on the child, trayvon, and not the adult, george zimmerman. so the comments that they made was based on that. the comments were, to me, some of the comments were just distasteful, you know? you can tell me you're sorry for my loss, and then stabbing me in the back at the same time. so i don't understand that. i don't understand the concept and everything that was going on. >> when you say that all of that stabbing in the back, trying trayvon, rather than zimmerman, do you think it was a fair trial? >> i think the state of florida

did their best. i think angela corey's office did their best to try to get a conviction. i don't know about the jury. i don't know about the defense, you know? i think the judge was fair in her rulings of the different motions. but it just seemed just like when the verdict came, it just seemed like, wow, you can get away with murder. so now our kids are targets, you know? and it's a scary feeling. how are we going to reassure them to feel safe walking down the street, going home, minding their own business with a drink and some candy. >> tracy, we rallied and said we wanted a trial. we got a trial. was it fair? >> i feel that the state did all they could do. of course, coming from me as a father who lost his child, i just think that the system wasn't fair.

the statuetes, the laws in florida i didn't think they applied equally to george zimmerman. there were too many loopholes and too much blaming trayvon for his own death. how can you blame a 17-year-old child for his own death? he could have avoided his own death by simply going home and george zimmerman said hisself to the dispatch on the 911 calls he didn't want to give his address out because he didn't want people to know where he lived. why would trayvon go straight home after being chased by somebody? >> you know juror b-37 gave an interview and she said this. it seemed like she said a lot of what you just said about like trayvon was responsible. watch this statement she made and tell me your reaction as

parents. >> i believe he played a huge role in his death. he could -- he could -- when george confronted him and he could have walked away and gone home. he didn't have to do whatever he did and come back and be in a fight. >> he played a huge role. he could have gone home. i mean, how do you listen to that as a mother and feel? >> if somebody is following me in their vehicle and then they follow me on foot, i'm not going home, because i don't want that person to know where i live, for one. and then i don't want that person to harm anybody that may be in my house. so just common sense tells you that i wouldn't go directly home if somebody was chasing me or some fsomebody was pursuing me or following me, i'm not going home because then you know where i live. i think the statement shows that there was definitely a disconnect with the jury.

they did not see themselves as trayvon being their son, because had they, you know, just took a moment to look in our eyes and to sit in our seat and just walk in our shoes, they would have understood that trayvon was minding his own business. he was not a burglar. he was not doing anything wrong. and some of that information came out that he had candy and a drink. i mean, if you're going to burglarize somebody's house, you'll have burglary tools. you know? >> right. >> you wouldn't be on the phone with somebody at the time that you're getting ready to commit this crime. >> do you think, tracy, that these jurors understood trayvon, could relate to trayvon? they had a kind of kinship with trayvon? >> i don't think they could connect with him in the sense that they are not looking through the eyes of an

african-american parent. they don't know what it's like to be an african-american. they don't know all of the trials and tribulations. so i think the disconnect was maybe they have kid and they never figured that their kids would ever have to be put in that position, whereas, we, on the other hand, we understand that society is cruel and i just don't think that they see -- they saw it coming from our perspective. >> now, there was a report that the jury was split. three voted guilty initially, then two voted manslaughter and one voted second-degree murder. then they kind of swayed them over. so how did you react when you heard there was initially a split in the vote? >> i just didn't -- i couldn't understand how -- how can you come from three people feeling that he was guilty of manslaughter to all six people

feeling that he was innocent. that's the part that i'm having trouble grasping, because that showed me that there was -- there was thought in their mind that he was guilty and how you go from second-degree to not guilty at all, that troubles me, it baffles me. i have no idea how they dot gott to that. >> is there something the prosecutors could have done, attorney crump, that could have helped keep this going, at least the people that were already on the jury that one saying he did murder. did the prosecution fail? >> i know attorney parks and i talked about this a lot and attorney jackson and my legal chain. as sybrina said, we thank them for bringing the charges. many of the prosecutors in the state of florida would not have brought the charges no matter

how much evidence they have. certainly lawyers have different strategies and different styles. one of the strategies attorney parks and i employ always is empower the jury to say your vote today in this courtroom is more important than your vote when you go vote in a presidential election. you go back there and you hold on to your vote. you don't let people sway you from your vote. your vote will count more today than it will in any presidential election, but there is six votes in that jury and that is what it was and one vote counted all the world to tracy and sybrina if they would have held on their vote and not gave in to their vote and that is important to tell a jury. we always tell the jury you got to make your vote count. >> the prosecution didn't say that. >> it's a different style. we know that's our style to make sure we empower the jury. >> now, you know, when you hear this juror that basically had done the interviews, basically

took george zimmerman's view, felt that -- let me play you something that clearly says that they -- that she kind of bought into whatever zimmerman's story was. >> i think george zimmerman is a man whose heart was in the right place. i think pretty much it happened the way george said it happened. george had a right to protect himself at that point. i had no doubt george feared for his life. >> how do you feel when you feel her say his heart was in the right place, she had no doubt he feared for his life? >> it just makes me think they had made up her mind before she even heard the evidence and before the trial was start and before she was even selected, she had already made up her mind because she calls him by his first name george. she says george this and george that. she had already made up her mind. that is the sad part about it. >> tracy? >> yeah, i feel the same way. i feel that the intent from the onset from this juror was

tainted. she had her own intentions to get in that jury and her mind was made up before she was even selected. >> reverend sharpton, i think dp d d about -- she came forward and volunteered so that makes it even where we can talk about it. there were so many troubling things that she said in that interview. for instance when they said do you feel sympathy for trayvon martin and she said, i feel sympathy for both of them. you say, hoed on. you're acquit ago deceased child and the person who killed them on the same level and sybrina said it was george and it was almost nothing was on trayvon's perspective. it was not from the perspective of a kid who was running away and as sybrina and tracy said, they couldn't imagine that this

could be their child who was in this terrible situation, a scary situation, running from a stranger you didn't know and that is who we see when we think about trayvon. every african-american parent. every parent who says i want to be compassionate to a child, you think that could be my child! >> i want to ask you to stay with me. coming up, more of our conversation, including what it was like inside the courtroom. it starts with little things. tiny changes in the brain. little things anyone can do. it steals your memories. your independence. ensures support, a breakthrough. and sooner than you'd like. sooner than you'd think. you die from alzheimer's disease. we cure alzheimer's disease. every little click, call or donation adds up to something big.

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back now with trayvon martin's parent and their attorney benjamin crump. there has been, since the verdict outpouring all over the country, thousands of people out marching. how have you responded to that? how did that made you feel? how has that made you feel? >> it's helping to know that we have supporters. it's helping to know that we have people that is standing with us, that is praying with us. you know, they are supporting us and they can definitely see some

of the trials and tribulations that we are going through. just like us, a lot of people are experiencing this same thing. >> and we will talk about that later because we all going to be part of a prayer vigil saturday. let me take you back to the courtroom because no one has really talked with you publicly how it was to sit in the courtroom. you're sitting in there every day looking at george zimmerman. did you ever make eye contact with him? was there any kind of point where you and he, either one of you, kind of like crossed each other in terms of at least eye contact? >> i try not to make eye contact with him because it was just hard sitting in the courtroom five, six, seven feet away from the individual that took my son's life. that in itself was just a lot to bear. as a father, you have thoughts

of what am i going to do? what do i want to do? but then at the end of the day, i sat back and said to myself that it was bigger than was we were doing sitting right there in the courtroom, that everything that we had did up until that point would have been for nothing had i had a loud outburst or whatever. when i wanted to look up at him, i just thought about trayvon and what i would be destroying had i reacted. >> you know, sybrina, you always talk about faith and your spiritual life. but how much was your spiritual life tested sitting in there every day with zimmerman sitting there, hearing the 911 tapes of what you said was your son screaming? how did that feel and how did that test your spirit and your endurance? >> it tested my spirit by me

just remaining at peace while i was sitting there. so i was in the wilderness, but i was still at peace with myself because god was talking to me at the same time. and he told me just be still, just be still. hold your head up high and that is what i did. i was obedient to god's word and i understood that this wasn't just about trayvon. i was representing a whole group of people, a whole -- i can't say a nation, but a community. i was representing. so it was important for me just to be obedient to god and to listen to what he said and every day when i walked in that courtroom, i had an aunt that was texting me at home and would say, plea the blood of jesus over the courtroom and that is what i did every single day. >> let me play you one of the defense attorneys, what he had to say. >> you certainly hope, as a mom, you certainly hope that your son, trayvon martin, would not

have done anything that would have led to his own death, correct? >> what i hoped for is that this wouldn't have never happened and he would still be here. that's my hope. >> mark o'mara in cross-examining you inferred that you were hoping it was trayvon on the tape i referred to, that it maybe was not him and you saw your answer. what was going through your head when he was asking you this? and do you think his cross-examination to you was respectful and fair, or did you feel he was not keeping in mind that this was your son that had been lost? >> he remained professional, but, at the same time, a little underhanded things, i just seen right through. how could you say that my son did something to lead to his own death? i didn't believe that and i didn't want him to put words into my mouth. you ask the question and let me answer it. but i just didn't want him to put words in my mouth and i

understood what he was saying. the other thing is as a witness, that was, you know, the first time i had been a witness in a case and it was just very difficult, because i had no clue what he was going to ask, so it was hard for me to try to stay focused on what i was, you know, to answer the questions and also just keep my mind focused on what was going on in the courtroom. >> tracy, you understand as well, and do you feel they were respectful? the defense called you. how do you feel that went? >> i felt it went good for me, because i had -- i had no reason to get up on the stand and lie. but i did have the right to get up on the stand and contradict what detective serino and detective singleton said and i felt as though what they said was untrue and i felt that i had

to get on the stand. i wanted to get on the stand to tell them what i did say. >> now, i want to play this for you, that a lot of people mentioned to me all the time. george zimmerman did an interview with sean hannity and this is what he said when hannity asked him about regrets about what happened that night with trayvon. >> is there anything you regret? do you regret getting out of the car to follow trayvon that night? >> no, sir. >> do you regret that you -- you had a gun that night? >> no, sir. >> do you feel you wouldn't be here for this interview if you didn't have that gun? >> no, sir. >> you feel you would not be here? >> i feel that it was all god's plan and for me to second-guess it or judge it. >> is there anything you might do differently in retrospect as time has passed a little bit?

>> no, sir. >> as a mother and father, no regrets for anything, wouldn't do anything differently. he felt it was all god's plan. i mean, how do you look at that and feel? >> i look at that and say what god is he serving? because the god that i serve would not have that type of plan and for him to apologize to us and then in another segment or another show say he has no regrets, i think that is disgusting. >> tracy? >> i feel he has no respect for human life. just a total disrespect for human life to say that you would -- if you had a chance, you wouldn't do anything differently. that right there shows the mentality of someone who is very unstable because, i mean, it's just no regard for human life there. >> both of you left the courtroom at some point when the

911 tapes were played. i'm imagining. i don't want to put words in your mouth. that was very painful, the tapes, the autopsy photos were shown, photos of trayvon that night. these were very emotional and trying periods for you or times during the trial? >> yes. they were very difficult for me to watch, to see my son laying on the ground, to see my son at the medical examiner's just to not see my son smiling and happy and alive, you know? it bothered me a great deal and when i felt that ik not sit in the courtroom and listen to it, we did have a little room we went into and in that room, i just, you know, just took some time out, just so that i wasn't so connected to every single thing that was going on. but it helped me a great deal

and i couldn't take everything. >> tracy? >> yeah, just to see the lifeless body of a individual that we knew was full of life, full of energy, just to see him laying on the medical examiner's table, it was disturbing. it was hurtful. it's something that -- those are photos that you really don't want to look at, but, at the same time, you want to see what this monster, in fact, did to him. i wanted to see what this monster did to my son. >> that is part of the trial that many people probably never thought about, the parents. please stay with me when we come back. trayvon martin's on rachel jeantel and on her testimony. and the news on george zimmerman not testifying. stay with us. [ male announcer ] at hebrew national, we're so choosy about the cuts of beef that meet our higher kosher standards

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we're back with trayvon martin's parents sybrina fulton and tracy martin and their

attorney, benjamin crump. i want to talk for a moment about rachel jeantel. she was trayvon's friend and she was a key witness in this case, the last person to speak with him. sybrina, what was going through your mind as you watched her testify? >> i was just so glad that she did agree to it. i just think back to when we first found out about her and we did contact her and i met up with her. it was just -- it was just a very emotional meeting and i begged her. i pleaded with her and she did not want anybody to know who she was, and that was the reason why she gave me a different name because that was the nickname that she used, but i just begged her and i told her, just -- just tell what happened, tell the truth. just do this for your friend, just do this for trayvon. and it was a very emotional meeting. so seeing her again on the

stand, i can appreciate her. i appreciate her for standing out -- for standing up, because some people would have just said, well, i don't remember, i don't know. and she could have done that. but instead she said let me just tell what happened. let me just tell, you know, that i was on the phone with him and exactly what i heard. e and i aappreciate her for that. >> she did get into it with the defense. let me show her and don west getting into it a little bit. >> are you claiming in any way that you don't understand english? >> i understand you. i understand you. i do understand english. >> my question is when someone speaks to you in english, do you believe that you have any difficulty understanding it because it wasn't your first language? >> i understand english really well. >> are you okay this morning? >> yeah. >> you seem so different than yesterday.

i'm just checking. did someone talk with you. >> is that a question? >> yes. did someone talk with you last night about your demeanor in court yesterday? >> no. i went to sleep. >> you don't know that trayvon got hit. >> he had to. >> you don't know that trayvon didn't, at that moment, take his fist and drive it into george zimmerman's face? >> please lower your voice. >> do you? >> no, sir. >> tracy, she told us on "politics nation," she felt he was disrespecting her and talking about english because she had actually been interviewed him a couple times before she testified. and none of this came up. >> i thought it was very disrespectful to her and her family as well. i thought it was witness badgering. you got to remember, this is a young lady who is the last person that talked to one of the persons she considered her best friend. she gave accolades to trayvon

and trayvon was that friend that never belittled her and for don west to get her on the stage like that and try to belittle her and disrespect her, i thought it was very distasteful. >> reverend sharpton, i think when you look at her testimony, it's very consistent and legally her testimony, had there been a conviction, her testimony made it legally sufficient because it was very consistent. the 911 operator when they talking to trayvon's killer saying he is running away, rachel says he is running away. and they are both on the phone at the same time. now, they talk about some big conspiracy. the phone records don't lie. he said trayvon is running away and it just flies in the face of common sense that somebody who is running away from you moments before is going to try to attack

you. it's more akin to trayvon was trying to defend himself and that is what her testimony was consistent with that and, lastly, i think what tracy said was so true and it really got at your heart. she said trayvon never made fun of her about her complexion or her weight. don't we all want our children to be like that, don't go with the crowd and try it make fun of people, but to be compassionate and say i see you for who you are, rachel. >> now, zimmerman didn't testify, sybrina. how did you respond when you found that -- when the defense got ready to rest and you were not going to hear zimmerman get on the stand and tell his story? >> well, i just thought that he would. if you're saying that you're defending yourself and this is a self-defense claim, then why didn't people hear from you? why didn't people hear what he had to say about his accounts of what happened? you know?

and the prosecution wasn't given a chance to cross-examine him, to ask him any questions specifically or in detail about that night. >> now, in an interview, tracy, his mother was asked what she would say to you as parents and she said this. listen. >> we are deeply sorry for this, deeply sorry. and we pray for that. we pray for trayvon martin. >> how do you feel about her saying that that? >> i'm not concerned. right now, i'm not concerning myself with what they are saying. we are more focusing ourselves on our family and how our family feels and how we can heal our family and how we can start healing our friends. in time, time will heal wounds, but right now, that wound is still open, it's still very

fresh so we are more focused on what our family thoughts and prayers are. >> let me -- let me ask you, before we go to break, when you think about the trial and you think about the interviews that you went through, both on the stand and the interviews of the parents of george zimmerman, the fact is that you, no matter what had happened, would not have gotten your son back, so the call calls for you now is what? what is it you are trying to achieve in the name of your son? >> in the name of trayvon martin, we are trying to achieve -- we trying to make sure that this is prevented, that kids feel safe and this does not happen to somebody else's teenager, or somebody else's child and somebody else gets away with murder. we want to make sure that these laws are changed. we want to make sure that people are listening to what happened

during the trial and even now. and we make positive change. >> and i think that you found -- formed a foundation trying to do work. explain that, tracy, with you and sybrina, what you're doing. >> we founded the trayvon martin foundation and we're trying to create an atmosphere where we can give scholarships, we can mentor children, we can advocate for senseless crimes, we can get out and try to make amendments on some of the laws. we are trying to implement the trayvon martin bill. it's a lot of things that we're -- we have out there in place that we're working on. it's not just for the black communities. it's for people with just dec t

decency in themselves. we want to make sure that trayvon's legacy says stays here and not just after this trial. we want to make sure this is an ongoing thing. >> i want to talk about that. from the president to stevie wonder to bruce springsteen. the power of the trayvon martin story, that's next. to benefit cancer research i rode across the atlantic. crossing an ocean with your body as the motor, it hurts. so my answer was advil. [ male announcer ] paul ridley chose advil. because nothing is stronger on tough pain. real people. real pain. real relief. advil. relief in action.

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goaler gorge zimmeorge zimme who faced charges in florida but it seemed to many people that trayvon martin was the one put on trial. the defense tried to define trayvon martin in a certain way. they wanted to make him seem like a guy interested in fighting. drugs. even guns. and for all of the talk we have heard in this country about this case, most americans don't know trayvon at all. we're back with trayvon parents and their family attorney. tracy, you've said trayvon was your friend. what was it like hearing all of those negative things about your son? >> it was very disheartening, reverend, because the trayvon that we know and love was not what they were portraying him to be. we knew and loved the trayvon that loved his little cousins. he used to make breakfast and

cupcakes for his little cousins. he would go to chucky cheese with his little cousins. anything that dealt with younger kids, he was that person to be around them. i like to call him my best friend because he saved my life and that's something that i refuse to let anyone take away from me, trying to sort of stain his life. he was -- he was a kid of kids. he was just -- he was my son, man. and he is sadly missed. >> you say he was your son. i remember, sybrina, when the president of the united states talked about if had he a son. watch this. >> you know, if i had a son, he would look like trayvon, and, you know, i think they are right

to expect that all of us as americans are going to take this with the seriousness it deserves and that we are going to get to the bottom of exactly what happened. >> and getting to the bottom of what happened is why the call has went out to the justice department to investigate and this trayvon martin amendment is really to make sure it doesn't happen again. i know this is the work of the foundation. i know this is saturday. we are all at a hundred locations around the country pleading for some change of policy, not republican, democrat, but everybody. sybrina, what is your hope that could come out of saturday and come out of the foundation's work on this tracy martin amendment? >> well, trayvon martin. >> trayvon martin. i'm sorry. i said tracy. i meant trayvon. >> the trayvon martin amendment says that you cannot pursue -- you cannot follow, chase someone, pick a fight with them, shoot and kill them, and then

say you were standing your ground. so that is what that amendment is all about. for the rallies that is going on, for the marches that are going on, for the most part, they are peaceful and we want them to remain peaceful. we want them to have a voice. because people listen and numbers count and that is what is important. >> have you to be able to control yourself. you have to be able to know what to say and when to say it. you have to be able to organize yourself within your own state or within your own city. and that is where we are promoting. that's what we are supporting. we are not supporting anything that is not of a positive image. >> and you're appealing to the government for change, because i saw one newscast saying you are like calling the president out. i said, no, i think she was respond to go a question, we are trying to appeal for change. i mean, is that the spirit?

or am i missing something here? >> no, that is the spirit. we trying to appeal for change. we trying to get as many people connected to this movement, because it has turned into -- it started out being one way. now it's a movement. there are people that want positive change. there are people that want the injustice to stop. there are people of all colors that say something is wrong with the system if an adult male can get away with murder. trayvon was a teenager. at the end much day, he was a teenager that was minding his own business with a drink and some candy. >> reverend sharpton, from the time when we called you almost 17 months ago, we were asked for justice with trayvon and we are still seeking that but the conversation has evolved. after you watch that trial, you saw them say, because the actions of an african-american male who burglarized a townhome in a gated community it was almost suggested that the neighborhood watch volunteer had a right to go stop any teenage

black male he saw walking through his gated community and you can't profile and follow somebody and chase them, not even the police can do. the united states supreme court saying you can't profile based on race. the conversation with trayvon martin continues to evolve and the question is are we going to make progress or regress? and if we make progress, this won't happen to anybody else. >> that is what the foundation is going to be dedicated toward and we going to keep following it. when we come back, how these parents find the strength to keep going. ♪

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sybrina, tracy, the foundation work, you say you want to have victims work with each other and i know that's a very important thing because i've worked with a lot of people that we have had to fight down through the years. you share the pain and you bond with them. that's what the foundation is going to be about? >> yes, that's one of the

purposes of the foundation is for us to connect with other families that are victims. it's on our website and what we are going to do -- >> what is the website? >> the website is the trayv trayvonmartinfoundation.org. >> when it's all over, we're going out saturday around the country, people going forward peacefully and try to change the law, but when it's all over a hundred years from now, what do you want american history to say about trayvon martin? >> that trayvon was definitely a pillar in -- in this time and in this generation, that his killing may have had something to do with the ending of the senseless violence. we want to learn from this, you know, and i think we, as the people in general, as a whole, should take heed to this and learn from this. >> as a mother, sybrina, if you

could talk to george zimmerman, what would you say to him? >> i would pray for him. i would tell him my favorite bible verse which is proverbs 5, and 6. i would tell him how i felt which you shed innocent blood and you going to have to ask the for that and i would pray for him. i really would. because i don't want to block my blessings by having any hatred in my heart for him, so i would pray for him. >> do you feel that with all of the efforts you're doing, you've been out there 16, 17 months and i'm going to ask you quickly, do you feel that trayvon is with you and watching and seeing what all are doing? >> absolutely. absolutely. >> definitely. >> it's little things that happen around us which gives us confirmation that not only god is there, but our angel is watching us too. >> sybrina fulton and tracy

martin, attorney benjamin crump, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you, reverend sharpton. >> thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. mine was earned in djibouti, africa. 2004.

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