right now on "andrea mitchell reports" -- president obama's personal remarks about trayvon martin reverberating across the country this weekend as thousands rallied in more are than 100 cities. but are the divisions greater than ever? joe scarborough spoke out today about what he calls the callus commentary. >> come on! whatever excuse there is to say this young black man had it coming to him, that is the defense. because there is no defense for shooting down a young black man

in a middle class neighborhood with skittles. armed with skittles. this entire spectacle is depressing. the vultures are going to continue to circle around this young teenager's body. make no mistake of it, they are. and they continue to try a young man and try to destroy his reputation for doing nothing more than walking through a neighborhood. a week after the verdict, will the 20 states withstand your ground laws take another look at the self-defense statutes? a call this weekend from john mccain to review those laws, including in his own state of arizona. >> i can also see that stand your ground law may be something that needs to be reviewed by the florida -- >> in arizona? >> by the florida state tur or any other legislature that has passed such legislation. the do-nothing congress. house speaker john boehner says that's a good thing. >> we should not be judged on how many new laws we create.

we ought to be judged on how many laws we repeal. and the great kate wait is nearly over. the mom to be arrived at the hospital with prince william just a little over 12 hours ago as the world anxiously awaits the arrival of britain's next prince or princess. >> how lucky am i? guys, it's on. >> now we just have to wait a little bit longer. 31 years ago it was another excited new father, expectant father announcing the birth of a royal baby. >> how do you feel? >> i'm honestly relieved and delighted. it was marvelous. it is a rather grown-up thing. a little shock to my system. good day, i'm andrea mitchell in washington as anticipation mounts for the arrival of the royal baby. prince charles received a gift from a well wisher for his first grandchild. >> it's for the baby.

>> nbc's jim maceda joins us now from outside st. mary's hospital and nbc's keir simmons joins me live from buckingham palace where the royal birth will be officially posted. first to you, jim, at the hospital. it's been 12 hours but we know that this can be a long process for a first child especially. any signs of anything changing out there? >> no, not yet. i wish i could tell to the contrary, andrea. but it is still any minute or any hour or maybe even into tomorrow. you're right, it has been a full half a day now. 12 hours since some paparazzi around the corner tweeted that they'd seen a convoy of cars, no ambulance, swing in to a side entrance of this hospital. that was followed, as we know, by that short statement from kensington palace confirming that kate was inside st. mary's

maternity wing and was in the -- at the time -- early stages of labor. several hours later we heard also from the palace that things were proceeding normally but that's been it. the birth, again, could happen at any moment or could take substantial longer period of time. but we're not going to get any more updates, andrea, until that palace official exits through that door behind me carrying an official birth serth sicertific carried two miles to buckingham palace, he'll then place that on the easel we've all heard about inside the palace forecourt for all to see, the same easel that announced the birth of the baby's father william some 31 years ago. but for now, andrea, the future king or queen of great britain is still an unborn and very unnamed baby.

back to you. >> keir, over at buckingham palace, there you are where the easel will have the birth announcement. are they going to read from the posting on the easel? how is this going to work? >> reporter: hey, andrea, good afternoon. i think they'll just come over here, if you like, just put it up. it will be something of a spectacle though because the piece of paper, if you like, will leave with an official from the hospital where jim is, it will be driven through the streets of london to buckingham palace here. once the birth has happened, once the royal baby is born, it is the first time that's happened but you can see it becoming a tradition pretty quickly, can't you? because traditionally babies -- royal babies were born here at buckingham palace. so it is a hat tip, if you like, to that tradition. there are people there at the gates crowded around. there are often sight seers here at buckingham palace. some have said they would like to wait until the note's been put up. they may have a little while to wait but the queen is here.

she has her own flag, if you like, the royal standard that's raised above the palaces wherever she is and the royal standard was raised above buckingham palace just in the last few hours. so she is here. we are told that what will happen when the birth has taken place is that william will phone the queen. she will be the first person that he phones. so the news that this royal baby has been born will first emerge from that hospital in that phone call to the queen, and then an announcement from buckingham palace, and then this driving of this notice here to the gates where it will be put on that easel. >> she returned from windsor castle earlier today and she had said last week that she hopes the baby comes soon because she wants to go on holiday to bell mor bechlt lmoral up in scotland. here at home, president obama gave new force to the national conversation about race in his extraordinarily personal

comments friday during this hour. >> i just ask people to consider if trayvon martin was of age an armed, could he have stood his ground on that sidewalk? and do we actually think that he would have been justified in shooting mr. zimmerman who had followed him in a car because he felt threatened? and if the answer to that question is at least ambiguous, then it seems to me that we might want to examine those kinds of laws. >> joining me now are "washington post" editorial writer jonathan capehart, "washington post" columnist eugene robinson and radeka jones, editor of tooic"time" magazine. jonathan capehart, you are familiar with the president's thinking. you've talk to staff. i think you were at white house for the announcement, for his comments. it was unscripted but deeply

thought through and he wanted it to be presented that way as a surprise. he didn't want a lot of people analyzing and previewing what he had to say. >> right. right. as you can tell, the way he spoke, this was something that the president has throughout a lot about. clearly this is something he's been thinking about since the verdict. as we know from other reporting, he talked to close staff and friends and family particularly the first lady about the case, about what this means for race relations and what, if anything, he should say. and unlike the speech he gave in 2008 to what basically rescued his president tensiial campaign was very personal from the heart, and from his own head. no teleprompter, no nothing. >> no presidential seal, gene robinson, you had written about this of course the day before, for posting on friday in the

"washington post." and he came out with no secret service, no advanced warning at all. we can certainly attest to that since we were -- i was sitting right here in the chair, then all of a sudden there was the president coming out into the briefing room. but it was clearly something that there had been a lot of pressure for him to say something but something that he really wanted to think through before he spoke out. >> obviously it was, andrea. you know in what i wrote last week -- actually wrote on thursday, i was very skeptical as to whether -- not whether president obama could be eloquent on the subject of race -- i know that he can -- but whether he could cut through, whether he could communicate effectively from the white house on race. when he had tried to do that in the past, it hadn't quite worked out the way he wanted, as after the arrest of professor henry lewis gates, for example, that confrontation with the white

police officer. his remarks were sort of taken and warped and twisted and in the end he didn't get his message across. this time he did. this time i think he really cut through the noise and the clutter and it was a very affecting, personal sort of speech that i think did communicate and reached lots of americans. really reached a lot of people. >> trayvon's parents were speaking of course with all of the protests and the marches and commemorations this weekend but their comments were particularly effective. >> not only do i vow to you to do what i can for trayvon martin, i promise you i'm going to work hard for your children as well because it's important. . >> my vow to trayvon when he was laying in his casket is that i would use ounce of energy in my

body t sice. i will continue to fight for trayvon to the day i die. >> david, the biography of barack obama, "barack obama the story," the author joins us now from wisconsin. david, why is it issue for difficult for the president despite his personal connection and how he spoke from the heart on friday? why over the years has this been a challenge for him? >> it's interesting that he's basically spent all of his had adult life thinking about race and the many contexts of it and dynamics of it. he wrote a book about it. and the reason it's difficult as president is because he's president of all the people. he is the first black president of the united states. but he's never -- he's been reluctant to make that any part of the definition of him as president. this was really the first time, i think, that fully he spoke as

a human being, as a black american with that particular context. i think that's what i think helped him cut through in this instance rather than generalities. it was very specific about what so many millions of people endure, including himself. >> and particularly as a black man. the cover of "time" magazine after trayvon which has all sorts of implications because trayvon lives on now as part of american history. he is memorialized. i felt what the president did so effectively was to bring him to life in a way that, frankly, from that one juror's comments, he had faded from existence, at least from her reflection in the jury room. >> that's right. i think the president just in making this very profound personal connection and stating it as plainly and profoundly as he did, that 35 years ago

trayvon martin could have been me. it forces anyone listening to him to have that moment of empathy and think, well, are we doing right by young black men? are we doing right by our children in general? are we doing everything we can to put ourselves in the mindset of people who maybe society as a whole is misjudging. i think the president's words were very powerful in that way. >> eugene and all of you, i wanted to play a little bit of what sean hannity had to say on the radio because that's what sparked joe scarborough's response this morning. let's listen. >> a politician who's quick to stick his nose in to all this first, you know, the police acted stupidly. you know, if i had a son he'd look like trayvon. you know, now the president said trayvon could have been me 35 years ago. oh, this is a particularly

helpful comment. is that the president admitting that i guess because what? he was part of the chune gang, he smoked a little pot and did blow? i'm not sure how to interpret that because trayvon had been smoking pot that night. i'm not sure what that means. >> eugene, i don't know what to say. why don't you take it? >> first of all, you and i both know that if president obama declared tomorrow sean hannity day, hannity would complain about it. he would find some reason not to like it. so i think this time though that that sort of thing from hannity which is an appalling attempt to put trayvon martin on trial for his own killing is i think gaining less traction. i think it's less current and less out there than it otherwise might have been. i think, frankly, the personal nature and the effective nature of the president's words probably have a lot to do with that. when he says, you know, i've

heard the car doors locking as i walked past because -- well, so have i! you know? it's so personal. you could hear the clicks. you could feel the stares that he talked about. i just thought it was a really moving address. >> jonathan, he was speaking for black men and speaking as a parent, knowing that parents -- he has girls, but that parents of black boys and young men have to give them the speech, the lesson as to how to deal with authority figures, how to save themselves from being -- once they are profiled, from being harmed by authority figures. but i also thought that there was a really strong message for white america. >> and that message is, look at what black men are going through. not just trayvon martin, but me, as president of the united states, or any african-american

man you may know, you may be friends with, has endured one of these slitghts, one of these indignities that hasn't come from the hands of law enforcement. probably came from the hands of a department store clerk or someone in a car or someone on an elevator as the three examples that the president pointed out. i think what made the president's words even more powerful is that we had just gone through four weeks of a trial where trayvon martin was put on trial, where it was all told from the point of view of george zimmerman, primarily because he was the sole survivor of whatever altercation happened that night in 2012. what the president did, when you go to the white house website and you see the statement, the president's statement on trayvon martin. it was all about trayvon martin. the president put him front and center. he spoke about the dignity of trayvon's parents. he also restored the dignity of an unarmed 17-year-old child who was killed for no other reason, no other purpose. he was just trying to get back

home. >> and david, the president did this without putting what anyone could describe as undue pressure on eric holder but really is the justice department and eric holder who now has to face the question of whether this is, and can be, a civil rights case. >> yeah. the president was very careful to stay away from that aspect of it. but anything he says does have that resonance. and you know, washington is such a divided mess that really in some sense, the moral pulpit is what a president always has. and how that plays out both in the justice department and in the country at large is what's at stake here. >> thank you all for the conversation. thanks for your insights. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] research suggests cell health

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so it's managed well. it's growing. and that's what it has going for it right now. >> but of course, you are within texas, you are a democratic minority in the legislature. you've got a lot of social issues which we've seen with wendy davis. take a look at texas monthly. both you and your brother and wendy davis are on the cover of "texas monthly." is there a democratic revival coming up in texas? or are the republicans going to continue what has been an electoral lock on all state wide offices? >> it is an exciting time to be in texas right now. as a democrat. there's a feeling in the air that things are changing. the question is not if texas is going to become a competitive state and event llventually a b state. the question is just when, how

long is it going to take. there is a significant effort under way right now with battleground texas to apply some of the new data analysis and groundwork that's gone into turning states like north carolina and virginia blue into turning texas blue. it may take a little bit longer here in texas because it is such a big state. just a ton of people. but it is going to happen and you can feel that excitement right now in the air. >> we heard from the speaker about immigration over the weekend. he was on "face the nation." we still see no action coming out of the house. the vote in the senate was a strong vote in favor after comprehensive immigration bill but in the house they are talking about taking it step by step. is border security enough for people to respond to the republicans on immigration if they do nothing more about a path to citizenship? >> i sure hope -- and i still hold out hope that the republican majority in the house will take up what a bipartisan group in the senate has already

passed in terms of comprehensive immigration reform. poll after poll has shown that even republicans, even folks who are going to be voting in those republican primaries, are willing to accept a comprehensive immigration reform package as long as it is good on border security. and this one is very strong on border security. in fact, so much so that there are a decent number of folks on the left who are saying it's gone overboard. taking it in a piecemeal fashion really is a sleight of hand, because what will happen is they will will take up the border security part, then never get around to the dreamers, and much less a pathway to citizenship that is part and parcel of comprehensive immigration reform. and i agree with jorge ramos of univision that the hispanic community is very closely watching speaker boehner and those house republicans. if immigration reform fails everyone will know very clearly

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we continue to follow the breaking news out of london. nbc news british historian dr. andrew roberts now joins me from new york. very good to see you. thanks so much. talk about the succession, the change of the succession and implexes i implications of that. we don't know whether it will be a boy or girl. >> the laws of succession has been changed in some 15 commonwealth countries, or at least the vast majority of them, to ensure that that is no longer the law of the land. for the last 1,000 years the eldest son has become king of england, even though he might have an elder sister. now that's all been done away with and if the girl is born a girl -- if the baby is born a girl, then she will become queen of england. >> but there are several

commonwealth countries that have not changed the succession. will that matter or will they fall into line depending on the birth? >> they're really tiny ones. there are three. st. kitts, a minute little island in the caribbean is one of them. no, it won't have any effect whatsoever. >> and at this stage, this child will be third in line for the throne. does that change a lot in terms of what happens to the others in line for the throne? >> well, yes. it does mean that we're not going to -- we're very unlikely to have prince harry as king of england which i think is something that he would probably be quite happy about as well. nobody -- everybody loves prince harry, he's very brave in the war, the war against terror and the rest. however, he's not a man who's naturally cut out for kingship and this will of course knock him back one. >> how different is all of this being handled as compared to when diana gave birth to william

31 years ago? >> well, in many ways on the surface of course -- it is exactly the same. it is in the same room, the announcement is going to be made on the same easel. in that sense the traditions are all being kept exactly the same. but of course, because of what later happened to lady di or princess diana, it is all very different. of course this will end much more happily and also it is a new chapter. it is turning the page from the diana years and so that, too, is a sort of historical process. >> dr. andrew roberts, we look forward to talking to you again throughout the exciting announcements coming from london some time perhaps today. thanks again. and work began today to erase the of much disputed quotation on the martin luther king jr. monument right here in washington. controversial inscription was a paraphrase shortened statement from dr. king that read, "i was

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thing and you really are something else. >> there's no love lost between the two men locked in the high-profile race to replace a scandal plagued virginia governor bob mcdonnell. their first debate this weekend was predictably mean and personal. joining me for our "daily fix," chris cillizza and jean cummi s cummings. thanks to you both. chris, our friend judy woodruff was moderating this debate. this could not have been more personal between the virginia attorney general, the republican, and of course terry mcauliffe, the long time bill and hillary clinton aide and campaign manager and former democratic national chair. how would you score it coming out of this first debate? >> you know, andrea, first of all i think the thing is to remember is this was a debate at 11:00 in the morning on a saturday. more people probably saw the debate in that little clip you

just showed on your show than watched it live. so i think number one, be careful about making -- drawing too many conclusions from this. you said negative and nastier. are you right. i think the reason for it is because both men know that they aren't going to win this race. it is going to neither are well liked. most polls show mccall live in a slight lead. not every political race is sort of the lowest common denominator disqualify the other guy kind of vote, that the best of two not great choices. it seems as though judging from this debate and what we know about the polling in this race, that's where we're headed with this one. >> how much does the overall climate in virginia right now where you've got all of this --

"the washington post" has principally uncovered. there is an investigation going on. >> there is. it is an investigation into whether the governor did anything to help a particular donor, wealthy donor, who had given him hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of gifts and airplane rides and that sort of thing. koo kuchenneli's involvement is not as deep. but the bad thing for him is that the first trial that comes out of this scandal investigation is going to take place in mid-october. just two to three weeks before voters make up their minds and cuccinelli's name could get mixed up in that.

>> terry mccaka mckol went afte. >> you had a fiduciary duty there, sir. i have a fiduciary duty to make sure shareholders are protected. you had a duty to make sure taxpayers of virginia made back $6 billion that was owed to us. instead of taking you to court, he was taking you to new york city. he was giving mountain lake resort, smith mountain lake resorts. he was buying you $1,500 turkey dinners. that's a lot of turkey! >> of course, he also misstated whether or not cuccinelli had actually been investigated or was subject to some prosecution on this. so what's the net effect of mcauliffe going after him this hard? >> i think what it does -- terry was responding in that to

attacks on a green energy company that terry was involved in. >> in mississippi. >> right, in mississippi, and moving jobs from virginia to mississippi is the claim. so what i think terry mcauliffe's campaign hopes -- i think jean is right in terms of the time something bad for ken cuccinelli. terry is not cast as the guy with some ethic challenges where ken, he's probably more conservative than you are, but he's principled and trustworthy. they are trying to use mcdonnell hos political future has imploded over this, use mcdonnell to tie to cuccinelli and to sort of muddy waters and hurt the republican brand in the state. >> but of course, virginia is evenly divided north and south. jean, you've covered politics around here for a long time and you know that northern virginia, the women's vote might be much more important because of the social issues.

cuccinelli has been very hard on reproductive rights but in southern virginia it is a very strong republican strong hold and terry mcauliffe will not be very popular there. >> there is definitely a divide. virginia comes down to the independents and that's where mcauliffe does actually have an advantage. because we took a look at cuccinelli's fund-raising. of the top 25 busy donors to mcdonnell, only ten have given any money to cuccinelli. of the 15 are aren't involved, that there are some on the sidelines, there's also a handful that are giving big nonmcauliffe. it appears as though the virginia business community is population its bets with mcauliffe and in some cases switching from having been republican donors to now becoming democratic. donors. >> that's pretty interesting indicator. we'll watch this race very closely. thank you, jean cummings, good to see you.

as always, chris cillizza, thank you. a deadly earthquake in china has claimed 75 lives injuring hundreds of people, damaging thousands of homes. the 6.6 magnitude quake struck a mostly rural area of central china during the morning hours there today. in south america, pope francis will arrive later this afternoon, his first overseas trip. pilgrims have descended on rio de d de deej narrow. here in washington, secretary of state kerry is back in town meeting with president obama in the oval office this afternoon to talk about the next steps to restart peace talks between israel and the palestinians. the secretary is building a team manage the talks. former u.n. ambassador to israel, u.s. ambassador to israel, rather, mar din indig could be helping as special envoy in that effort. this is live picture over

st. mary's hospital and also buckingham palace where kate middleton arrived a little over 12 hours ago at the hospital. the posting will be done on that easel in front of the canada gate at buckingham palace. we'll have the latest as we all wait, along with the rest of the world for the birth of the next british heir. with the spark cash card

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will the announcement take place? >> first of all, william will phone from the hospital where jim is, the queen. that will be the first message that's sent out of the hospital, that the baby has been born. the queen here at buckingham palace. then we think we may hear word from the palace that there's been a royal birth. but importantly, a royal declaration will be carried through the streets of london here to the gates of buckingham palace and put up on an easel as it was when william was born. so we expect to see it here. there are people here, by the way, gathered. some of them say they'd like to wait until the notice is here but obviously we may have to wait a little while for that. andrea, one point you were making earlier, which is interesting, the queen of course said that she hoped the baby was born before she went on vacation this week. clearly her word is her command. this baby, though not born yet, clearly knows who the boss is. >> clearly cooperating.

to you, jim maceda, at the hospital, there is not a long tradition of royal births in hospital. they're usually at buckingham palace or at one of the palaces. >> that's right. exactly. you think about the father of this current baby. he was born here. the uncle, harry, was born here. but before that, they were all born at buckingham palace. it was a very unusual thing indeed to even consider a birth in a hospital. here outside this hospital it is extraordinary how things are changing, andrea, by the moment. this was up until this morning maybe 50, 60 feet, the width of the building, where there was mostly empty ladders and chairs and a few journalists. now you are talking about a football field to my left and a football field to my right lined

with people, mostly journalists still but a lot of well wishers as well. it is getting exciting. even an old curmudgeon like myself is getting into this. i'll tell you why. this is not just the birth of a royal. the birth of a future king or queen. that means the birth of a head of state for 15 or 16 nations as well. if it's a girl, she will be the only sixth woman who rules alone as queen in 1500 years of british monarchy. if that's not enough, this is also the first time ever that four british monarchs will be alive present and future at the same time. you're talking about potentially if this child lives a long life, 200 years, two centuries of time and history that goes by. i'll tell you, frankly, for me, that makes one's heart pump. back to you. >> jim and kier, that's a lot of history. of course, we know you're going to be standing by.

we'll have the news as soon as it happens. and a very special happy birthday, speaking of birthdays, a very special happy birthday to senator bob dole. senator dole of the greatest generation turns 90 today. he helped create the bipartisan policy center and in both majority and minority roles in the senate was one of the great legislators of our time. always actually trying to get something done. what a novel idea. best wishes. happy birthday, senator dole. speaking of birthdays, you're looking at live pictures outside st. mary's hospital where, as we just heard from jim, we are awaiting the birth of the royal child. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] at hebrew national,

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so which political story will make headlines in the next 24 hours? chris is back with us. the president is heading out. he's going out tonight here in washington. then he's got missouri and illinois on wednesday, florida on friday. this is the new push, his economic agenda. >> yeah, a big week for the president. the speech tonight, andreandrea

organizing for action, which is the group intended to be the grassroots legacy of barack obama's campaign. the other speeches you mentioned, economic focus. a big attempt by the president. he's tried this many times before. can he repivot back to talking about the economy and his policies and he doesn't say this, but this is an intent. put pressure on republicans as they head out of town for the august recess for when they come back, that they can move some of his programs along. we shall see. he's not been successful before. doesn't mean he can't be successful now. >> and put down some markers so that he himself which go on vacation, which the obamas presumably would do in august as presidential vacations take place. there's also a meeting first with john kerry this afternoon. very important in that kerry is getting sign off for these talks between israelis and palestinians. the president was pivotal on thursday night in calling b.b.

netanyahu and getting the prime minister to move farther along. kerry was shuttling back and forth. this is a big deal. >> an underplayed story, i feel like. there's so much going on, both domestically and in foreign policy. to your point, if they can keep the ball moving forward -- which is a big if -- it could be a huge story we're all talking about. >> chris, thank you very much. that does it for us if this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." remember, follow the show online and on twitter. my colleague tamron hall has a look at what's next on "news nation." is there a baby, tamron? >> not from me, andrea. thank you very much. i get what you're saying. oh, thank god for live tv. but we are looking at the royal baby. we're on watch for that. bye, ann -- andrea.

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