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when a fetal heartbeat is detected, as early as six weeks into the pregnancy. nbc news justice correspondent pete williams joins us with the breaking news out of washington. what are the details here behind the judge's decision? >> well, the judge said that the test for the constitutionality of any abortion law is the same one that the supreme court has consistently applied for 40 years. and that is whether it would ban abortions after viability. what the judge said is, it's medically, generally conceded that viability is 24 weeks into pregnancy. this law would have banned abortions at six weeks, roughly, into pregnancy. he said that's well beyond the bounds of constitutionality. the judge in his opinion said that nearly 90% of the abortions that are performed at the only abortion clinic in south dakota would be banned by this law and that he said would mean the clinic would also probably have to close its doors it because it just wouldn't have enough revenue to continue to operate.

the opinion was written by the federal judge here who is interestingly a george w. bush appointee. he said it is not even a close call because of the supreme court's guidance on this. no matter what he thinks of the law, he said, he's bound by supreme court precedent. there's no real surprise here in this decision, tamron. many of these restrictions the state legislature have been passing are intended to be vehicles to get the supreme court to look again at roe v. wade. we'll have to see whether the state of north dakota is going to appeal this decision. the next step would be a federal court of appeals. then whether it would go to the supreme court. there are similar restrictions around the country. this one in north dakota was probably the strictest. but there are similar pre-viability restrictions. any one of them could be on the way to the supreme court. the question is, has the court changed enough to have a different outcome on abortion?

that is a question the supreme court is ultimately going to have to get to here within probably the next year or so. >> given especially to your point, pete, other states -- we talked a lot about texas over the past several weeks and legislation that's passed in that state. just one of many. you have people who believe that these states ultimately want this back in the supreme court. >> yes, and there are different theories they're using. this one was the fetal heartbeat theory. what the judge said today is that the state did not present any expert testimony during the hearing on this question about whether a fetus could be viable outside the womb with a heartbeat at just six weeks. he said the weight of the medical evidence is that it would not be viable until 24 weeks. that's one theory. some of the laws in other states are based on fetal pain. you have a number of new ideas coming up. the supreme court is already considering the possibility of

an oral contraception ban from oklahoma that it may todake up its next term. one way or the other, it seems the question of abortion is coming back to the supreme court. >> all right, pete. thank you very much. another breaking news story we're following, this one out of brazil, where pope francis is expected to arrive in less than an hour. the pontiff was born in south america. this marks his first international trip since being named pope. brazil is also the world's largest catholic country with over 100 million faithful. it comes on the heels of one of the biggest periods of social unrest in brazil. weeks and weeks of protest over increased public service fees, corruption, and costly construction for the world cup and olympics has led to violent crashes. brazilian security forces it are bracing for more clashes during the pope's visit. claudio, obviously, the pope is there for the youth day, the world youth day. many of these protesters that

we've seen over the past several weeks want to capitalize on the attention the media certainly has focused on his visit. >> well, yes, indeed. as a matter of fact, we are hearing that there could be a protest staged outside of the governor's palace where the pope is expected to go later on today to attend his welcoming ceremony. for now, sources are telling us there's only 20 protesters and 500 cops in full riot gear, including a water cannon tank. well, that tells you that the brazilian authorities want to send out a very strong message that they want to repel any kind of protest that is going to happen or being planned during the pope's visit, even though these protests have got nothing to do with the pope or the pope's visit. these protests are against widespread corruption, against expenditure of this big event. let me tell you, first of all, we're receiving some information from up above -- that means, of course, the papal plane.

they spoke to the journalists. he said the economic situation is risking to create an entire generation of youth unemployed, unemployed youth. well, of course, this is what this event is all about. this is about the pope and the youth. the pope is expected to talk about the issues that affect the youth around the world. there's a sense of anticipation growing here. we've seen scenes of hundreds of pilgrims and brazilians alike lining the streets of cathedral, which is in downtown rio, where the pope is expected to take his first trip. we're all excited down here. more later. >> all right, claudio. thank you very much. now reaction to president obama's speech about race in america and the circumstances around the shooting of trayvon martin. senator john mccain yesterday agreed with president obama's call to re-examine the so-called stand your ground laws in

florida and dozens of other states. >> i can also see that stand your ground law may be something that needs to be reviewed by the florida legislature or any other legislature. >> do you think that stand your ground, the stand your ground law in arizona is worth looking at again? >> i think that -- yes, i do. i'm confident that the members of the arizona legislature will. >> so far, senator mccain is the only republican to make any official comment publicly on the president's speech and at least the conversation on stand your ground. on "meet the press" yesterday, commentator criticized the president's timing in speaking out. >> i appreciate and applaud the fact the president did finally show up, but this town has been spinning a story that's not altogether true. he did not walk to the podium for an impromptu address to the nation. he was pushed to that podium. >> meanwhile, over the weekend,

thousands of demonstrators hit the streets in over 100 cities -- 102, to be exact. a calling for federal charges in the shooting and to end the stand your ground laws. joining me now, democratic strategist and b.e.t. columnist, keith boykin, and michael smerconich. gentlemen, thank you for your time. keith, let me start with you. our first read team points out something they see as under reported. there's been mostly a silent reaction from republican politicians. they point out while some conservatives took to twitter to criticize president obama's speech, they don't recall receiving a single press release from a republican congressman or senator about the speech. they go on to write, it sure looks to us like the establishment wing of the gop has no interest in being involved in this debate. your take? >> i hadn't heard that, but i think that there is some truth to that. there has been an appalling lack of outrage, if you will, from

some on the right about the idea that a 17-year-old unarmed black kid can be shot and killed and the killer can go off free. i think it's ironic, however, that john mccain, of all people, will come out in support of president obama. it says a lot about where we are. but the country isn't a bad place because a new poll just came out today and showed that 87% of african-americans think that the shooting of trayvon martin was unjustified, but only 33% of whites think so. we have a huge racial divide that needs attention. >> but here you have senator john mccain from a state that certainly supports the rights of gun owners. he says, listen, this may require us to look at this again. he's not looking at it from the perspective of a young black man. he's looking at it as an elected politician who believes it's time to have this conversation. >> every now and then john mccain surprises me and us and

becomes a maverick again. i think this is one of those maverick-like statements. we'll see where this goes, though. i think it's very difficult, tamron, for anyone who's really responsibly looking at this issue to think there isn't some need to rein in these laws. anyone who's looking at it reasonably -- i know that florida governor rick scott met with some of the protesters last weekend and the protesters left feeling that he wasn't going to budge on the issue. >> well, he stated it clearly that he continues to support the stand your ground law in his state. >> and it's very disturbing when you have a case where someone is clearly killed who did nothing wrong and the people who are responsible in leadership are unwilling to stand up to do anything to change the laws. that's really the issue. it has to go just beyond the state of florida. >> and earl, as the president mentioned friday, if trayvon martin was of age and able to carry a gun, would he have been able to stand his ground when he was initially followed by george zimmerman? but i want to play what

professor charles ogletree said today on "now" with alex wagner. he discussed this notion that the president was somehow pushed and this was not a passion or calling. let me play professor ogletree. >> i just had a conversation with president obama yesterday after talking about some of this on the morning shows is on sunday. he really wants folks to move on this issue. he doesn't want to chair it because he wants the nation to give him some ideas. >> what is your take on that assertion? >> you know, i have a problem with that. it doesn't make any difference whether the president was pushed to the podium or the president went to the podium voluntarily because he felt a passion, a need to speak out. the fact is, he did. that is something many people have been waiting for for a long time. i have to say, the president spoke very movingly, very eloquently, and most

importantly -- actually, two things. he used the presidential bully pulpit to say, we have a problem and we're going to have to have this conversation, dialogue, and hopefully beyond that, action on racial problems in this country. but also what made it even more important was he spoke as an african-american and did not back away from that, giving his own experiences some years ago and essentially saying, look, if it could happen to me, and it did happen to me, it takes no leap of imagination to see exactly what young african-american males are facing day in and day out. and not just trayvon martin, but many trayvon martins. quite frankly, i say this, the president is using his bully pulpit, as presidents should do. clinton did that. johnson did that. other presidents have done that. i think it's going to have a huge impact. now what's going to come out of that? >> michael, let me bring you in. something earl brings up is the president used his own

background. while there have been no republican elected officials to come out and take a swing or even say they support a conversation on some of the ideas, including stand your ground, other than senator john mccain, i want to play what sean hannity said regarding the president opening up in a personal fashion. >> you know, the politician who is -- you know, who is quick to stick his nose in all this first -- you know, the police acted stupidly. if i had a son, he'd look like trayvon. now the president is saying trayvon could have been me 35 years ago. oh, this is a particularly helpful comment. is that the president admitting that, i guess, because, what, he was part of the gang and smoked pot and did a little blow -- i'm not sure how to interpret that because we know trayvon had been smoking pot that night. i'm not sure what that means. >> michael, your reaction? >> my reaction, and i tweeted about this yesterday, is that i find some of the loudest voices

and some of the most unconstructive voices in this conversation appear not to have watched the president nor to have read the transcript of his remarks. 18 minutes long. it'll take everybody less than that time to read it. and i thought it was a very thought-provoking, remarkable speech. the question i want to know is what notations did he have in front of him? how was he able to appear of there and deliver it? but the substance of it is not something i think reasonable minds account differ about. i thought it was really a remarkable address that teed up a conversation that now it's incumbent upon us to have. as the president said, it can't come from leadership in washington. people need to have this dialogue in their churches, their workplaces, in their families. i started doing that at my household over the weekend. took an hour to do it on the radio today. that's what we all need to do and to stop saying to him, okay, mr. president, what else are you going to do? he can't solve this himself.

>> absolutely. and that's what professor ogletree was saying, that the president doesn't want to chair the conversation. he wants the nation to give him some ideas on what to do. as you pointed out, where we gather, whether it's at your dinner table, your church, or if it's just talking with your neighbor by the mailbox, this is the conversation we're supposed to have. i'm not trying to incite some kind of verbal war between you and sean hannity. that's not my goal with the next question, but i'm curious if you believe he did not listen to the president's words and this assertion or some others come from a lack of willingness to listen and to be a willing participant here. how will you ever get someone on board who says, yeah, he smoked some pot, he did a little blow, i'm not sure how to interpret that because we know trayvon had been smoking pot that night. i think it was joe scarborough who said if the measure to make someone a villain is smoking pot, they probably need to wrangle in a whole lot of college students, particularly those at the ivy league level.

>> i never bought into this whole pot smoking aspect of the case because if anything, speaking from experience a long time ago, tamron, it would seem to me that would make trayvon martin a very docile individual and less prone to violence. so, you know, it's individuals speaking about a subject they know nothing about. and here's my direct answer. forget about the fringe in this country. it's the middle that has the power, and it's the reasonable adults who are centrists who are going to say, you know, we don't want to take our qs from the extremes. we're capable of having this dialogue, and we'll talk about the substance and the not the sound bites. >> quickly, earl, do you agree? do you think we're capable at this point? meaning the reasonable adults. >> yeah, i do, and i agree. the fact is, it is a fringe. it is an agenda crowd out there. that's what hannity represents. ratings are trying to sell the show. the fact is, you have a wide

body of the american public that wants to bridge the racial divide and have a dialogue. most importantly, go forward. that's who we need to be talking to. that's who we will be talking to. that in the end are those who will make the difference. >> gentlemen, thank you for your time. i greatly appreciate you having time to join us today. still ahead, 13 hours and counting. these are live pictures that haven't changed since i woke up at 5:00 a.m. of the hospital where kate middleton is in labor. we have live pictures from buckingham palace where the announcement will be made if it's a boy or girl. but the gender doesn't matter as far as it relates to the heir. plus, president obama hits the road on wednesday kicking off a series of speeches on the economy. our first read team asks this question. quote, will the public be listening? how would you answer that? senior political editor mark murray will join us. and an investigation now under

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we continue to follow developing news out of the u.k. where the duchess of cambridge has been in labor now for 13 hours. in fact, we've got a live look. this is st. mary's hospital, where it is now just past 7:15 p.m. prince william and kate arrived at the hospital very early this morning. as news of prince william and kate's arrival quickly spread, the crowds outside the hospital grew significantly.

at last word, palace officials said her labor was progressing as normal. meanwhile, this morning in london, william's father, prince charles, continued with his normal schedule and had this to say while accepting a gift for his future grandchild. >> it's for the baby. >> i'll see what i can do. >> nbc's annabell roberts is outside buckingham palace. thanks for joining us. 13 hours. our medical director nancy snyderman this morning said people go up to 36 hours. we could have a shorter wait or a significantly longer one here. >> reporter: that's right. there's a thought, 36 hours of everyone here waiting outside the hospital. that would be quite something. but as you say, it's 13 hours since kate went into hospital this morning. she and prince william arrived at the hospital via a back

entrance. a couple photographers saw them arriving. that was it. they slipped in more or less unnoticed, not seen by all the journalists at the front. since then, all we've heard is that phrase, the labor is progressing as normal. desperate for more knowledge, but that's it. you've kept an eye as we have on the front door of the lindo wing at st. mary's hospital. few people have gone in and out, but not that person we're all waiting who's going to appear clutching an envelope. in that envelope will be the medical bulletin signed by the doctors at the birth. that will contain details of the baby's gender, hair color, and eye color. that will be transported from the hospital to the palace behind me and put up on an easel, the very same easel that the birth of prince william was announced 31 years ago. now, you can see behind me there are a few crowds here. it's not teeming, i have to say. there are quite a few people who have come out, waiting at the

railings of the palace behind me, waiting for the moment the easel appears. like us, we're all waiting, too, tamron. >> all right. thank you very much. we'll see what happens in the next several hours. still ahead, new charges against the cleveland, ohio, man police say killed at least three women and wrapped them in garbage bags. are there more victims? and has he been copying another serial killer out of ohio? we'll talk to former fbi profiler clint vanzant. plus, a detroit judge has delayed a hearing on whether detroit's bankruptcy hearing violates state law against tampering with pensions. a retired detroit police officer joins us to discuss the possible consequences for the thousands of people who depend on their pensions. ♪ i'm a hard, hard worker every day. ♪

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welcome back. president obama will pivot back to the economy this week with an important speech at illinois's knox college. the president's address will set

the frame for this fall's looming budget battles. it is the first of three economic speeches the president will deliver this week alone. our first read team notes it signals a shift towards a strategy that's worked for the white house in the past. framing the debate early, but will the public even want to engage this time around? joining me live now, nbc news senior political editor mark murray. mark, there's been some reporting behind the scenes that already the white house is talking with some key republicans as it relates to the budget deal. >> that's right, tamron. there are several different components, which we're probably going to hear the president talk about on wednesday and also later this week. one is probably another fight over the debt ceiling. then having just the normal battle over the budget between democrats and republicans. part of that debate would be over the sequester. you kind of might have thought, well, gosh, seems like the news of the last four, five months is now going to be upon us. that is right. one of the good pieces of news for the administration is the country as a whole is that the

economy has dropped off the radar screen a little bit as you have seen positive job numbers. the economy moving in a slow but still positive direction. the bad news for the administration is that the speed of the recovery is still not strong enough. whoever is able to grab the mantle of the person who's looking out to protect the economy might have the upper hand in this budget battle that we're going to see in the months ahead. >> but going back to this issue of whether the public will be engaged this time around, i mean, we're going to talk a little later with a firefighter who may lose his pension out of detroit. there's a lot of timely news. you've got the housing market, as it doesn't relate to the overall budget and fiscal battles, there are things that continue to stress why we need to focus on the economy. >> well, that's right, tamron. that also goes up head-to-head with just the notion right now that politics is broken in washington, d.c. we saw some evidence of some work in the united states senate passing some executive branch appointe appointees. but you look at public polls,

you look up at the big attitude, and people don't think washington is working for them. that's why they might be tuning out a little bit of what president obama, congressional republicans all have to say about the economy. of course, if things really get bad, that's when the public really starts paying attention, but you look in these summer months, people might be on vacation and might just say, look, all of this stuff is just politics as usual. just a few months removed from the 2012 presidential election where many of these same battles were fought. >> all right, mark murray. thank you. in just a few hours, north carolina demonstrators will return to the state capitol for the 12th moral monday protest. at least 800 people have been arrested since the protests started. we'll have the latest from north carolina. so i'm checking out the jetta. 34 hwy mpg. check. no-charge scheduled maintenance. check. and here's the kicker... 0% apr for 60 months. and who got it? this guy. and who got it? this guy.

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in the meantime, a county judge in michigan adjourned a hearing until next monday on a lawsuit filed by detroit pension funds. they're trying to stop officials from cutting retired city worker benefits, arguing they're protected by michigan's constitution. last friday, the judge ordered the governor to withdraw the bankruptcy petition. of detroit's $18.5 billion in debt, more than $9 billion is in unfunded pension and health benefits to retired city workers. now, those workers are now certainly concerned about losing their benefits, money they rely on. among them, retired detroit police officer don taylor who joins us live. thank you for your time. >> thank you for having me. >> first, how long were you on the force? 26 years, i understand? >> yeah, i started in 1972 and retired in 1998. >> so you gave all of or most of your adult life to the city as a police officer. as i understand it, you were

making around $36,000, $37,000 a year. your pension is roughly $2300 a month. are those numbers right? >> yeah, that's pretty close. >> if you lose that money, what will you do? >> well, that's a good question. as you're probably aware, the city of detroit did not participate in the social security program. many of the retired police officers and firefighters from the city of detroit do not qualify for social security benefits. >> let me -- >> and those that do -- >> go ahead. i'm sorry. >> i was just going to say, those that do, their social security benefits are reduced because of the federal program. >> i want to play what the detroit emergency management said yesterday. he was asked about the reality of the situation with the city and the bankruptcy and what will happen to people who depend on the pension money like you.

here's what he said. >> i'm highly sensitive, you know. my mother is a pensioner in that sense. so this is very personal to me. i've talked to many of them. as i drive around the city, they come up to me and say, so, first of all, i'm empathetic about the problem. i also say, we don't have a choice. we've crossed a rubicon. we have $18 billion to $19 billion in debt and no funding mechanism for it. this is a question of necessity. >> so he's promised retired city workers that you won't see any of your pension cut for at least six months, but he also said those were benefits that would have to be cut down the road. when he says it's personal, he understands and talks about his family member, does that help you at all? >> well, obviously, you know, he's a very personal guy, and we did meet with him. as a matter of fact, the first meeting we had with him, he indicated there probably wouldn't be any changes to the

pension benefits because he did not intend to attempt to set aside the state constitution. you know, many of our retirees have very meager pensions. the average pension for police and fire is supposed to be in the area of $30,000 a year. a number of the members we represent have in the area from $1,000 to $1500 a month. any reduction could be devastating to these elderly people on these fixed incomes. >> do you have any hope -- i mean, here you have a number of people involved in this, judges. the reality is, if this is true, what they say, that this is inevitable, that you will face this cut, what do you have to hold on for any hope here that this will work out? seems detroit is just being beaten up and ignoring these people like yourself who helped build that city and are struggling with it now. >> well, there's been no real specifics given over exactly what kind of cuts he's referring to.

i've been to two or three meetings. the indications we've received through those meetings relating to police and fire pensions, they weren't referring to any wholesale cuts at those meetings. they were referring to maybe a freeze or eliminating the cost of living increase. of course, his original statement has changed. >> well, there's a lot of uncertainty. we'll continue to watch. thank you so much for your time. we wish you the best. >> thank you. >> absolutely. >> thank you. in riley, north carolina, activists are gathering for a 12th week of protests and rallies at the state house this week. the focus will be on harsh new voter i.d. bill before the republican controlled state legislature. now, the previous 11 weeks of moral monday protests have resulted in more than 800 arrests. they focused on the gop controlled state legislature's economic, social, education, and voting policies and have been organized by the north carolina

chapter of the naacp. joining me now is reverend jimmy hawkins, he's a pastor of the coveted presbyterian church. in april, he was even arrested for civil disobedience along with 16 others. thank you, reverend, for your time. >> thank you, tamron. >> i know the focus is on this new voter i.d. law. we've covered moral mondays now, i believe most of the 12 weeks it's happened here. there's a particular interest today with this voter i.d. law. what concerns you? >> what concerns us primarily is there's no problem with voter fraud in the state of north carolina. they're attacking a problem that does not exist. we know the real issue at hand is voter suppression. they're trying to make sure that large numbers of college students don't vote, large numbers of african-americans don't vote, large numbers of disaffected people don't vote. they're addressing a problem that, one, does not exist, and they're creating greater problems. >> to your point, i want to run down some of these proposals. no college student i.d. is acceptable, no out-of-state

driver's license is acceptable, no public employee is accepta e acceptable, no photo i.d. issued by a public assistance agency is acceptable. that's the list there. when you think about it, you know, a college student who is there and you have quite a few in your state, if their i.d. is not acceptable, are they supposed to fly home, drive home, or do whatever to vote? we're talking about a key voting block, young people, especially for democrats. >> it's totally ludicrous. it's also a punishment for college students who do go against this law. the $2500 exemption their parents get will be taken away. they've seen what's happened in the last two presidential elections. huge numbers of college students work for the democrats and president obama. while we, as a part of moral monday are nonpartisan, we recognize this group wants to stay in power.

we're determined we're going to see that people's rights are not tramped upon. >> all right. thank you so much for your time, reverend jimmy hawkins. again, the 12th week of protests in that state. we appreciate your time today. >> thank you. still ahead, new questions about roller coaster safety after a mom is thrown to her death at six flags in texas. the state is one of at least 17 with absolutely no government oversight of amusement park rides. that, by the way, is our gut check. plus, an ohio man now charged with murder after the bodies of three women were found wrapped in trash bags. officials say he may have been influenced by another cleveland serial killer who's now on death row. we'll talk with former fbi profiler clint vanzant. hi, i'm terry and i have diabetic nerve pain. i worked a patrol unit for 17 years in the city of baltimore. when i first started experiencing the pain, it's, it's hard to describe because you have a numbness... but yet you have the pain

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wooden roller coaster on friday. according to witnesses, esparza was worried that her lap restraint wasn't working when she boarded the coaster and asked an attendant to check it. the investigation into her death will not involve government regulators. that's because there's no federal agency with authority to enforce safety standards. now, texas is one of at least 17 states that have no oversight into amusement park rides. that's according to an nbc survey of state codes. six flags says the 14-story high roller coaster will remain closed until the park concludes its investigation. joining me now is ken martin. he's an independent amusement ride safety inspector and consultant. ken, thank you for your time. >> thank you for having me. >> so what is the number one reason that these parks in 17 states don't have any oversight? >> well, the amusement right industry is self-regulated, tamron. for approximately 40 years, there's been no type of federal

oversight over these fixed amusement parks. in states where they exist, there's very little state oversight as well. >> so i guess to put it more bluntly, who is the lobbying force behind this? we know there's been proposed legislation on capitol hill. now senator ed markey being behind it when he was a member of congress. there has been a push. usually if there's a push for some kind of oversight, federal oversight, there's a counter to that. >> there is. and that counter would be the amusement park industry. they are a very strong lobby. they are actually based inside the beltway in d.c. >> when you look at this case, for example, with this woman and some witnesses say that she was worried about her lap restraint and that according to witnesses, an employee walked over and kind of shook it but didn't pay close attention. again, this is one witness who is saying this. this investigation continues. why should people believe that

an amusement park would be able to oversee this investigation without putting its own best interest in front of the results? i mean, forgive me for being skeptical, but we live in the real world here. >> right. you're exactly correct. some people say it's a case of the fox guarding the hen house. if i owned that amusement park, i would want an independent body outside of my organization to come in and investigate and clear me if i know i did nothing wrong. >> let me play a little -- read, rather. a baby stroller is subject to tougher federal regulations than a roller coaster moving in excess of 100 miles an hour. we need to close this loophole and ensure federal authorities can investigate these accidents. that's an incredible point. a baby stroller is subject to tougher federal regulations. granted, this happened in the

summer, a popular amusement park in texas. people go more so this time of the year. do you believe there will be any change? >> well, there hasn't been in the last ten years. texas has pretty much remained the same. the rest of the country has remained the same as well. you either have states that have a good inspection program or states that have no inspection program. the few that are in the middle, like texas, basically collect fees, take your information, make sure you have insurance, require you to have a third party inspection, and that's it. you know, they're done with you. >> i should read this statement from six flags before we let you go. we are committed to determining the cause of this tragic accident and will utilize every resource throughout this process. it would be a disservice to the family to speculate regarding what transpired. our thoughts, prayers, and full support remain with the family. what advice would you offer to families who may be considering one of these amusement parks in a state that doesn't have

federal oversight? >> well, most amusement parks have a safety guide. when you enter the park, pick up that safety guide. go over it with your party, your children especially. make them aware of what rides they should stay away from because these rides are well marked. pay attention to the rules. lastly, pay attention to the operator and what the operator offers. if you feel uncomfortable, do not ride that particular ride. >> all right, sir. thank you for your time. we'll see what this investigation yields. thank you. >> thank you, tamron. the suspect in the deaths of three women in cleveland has now been charged with aggravated murder and kidnapping. michael madison is a registered sex offender. he showed no emotion as he was arraigned this morning. a judge ordered him held on $6 million bond. madison was arrested after the bodies were found over the weekend wrapped in garbage bags in a cleveland suburb. madison did not enter a plea today. if found guilty, he could face

the death penalty. joining me now, former fbi profiler and nbc analyst, clint vanzant. authorities say there could be more victims here. there's so many disturbing angles. one of them is this man may have been motivated by another case you and i covered in cleveland, ohio. >> yeah, we did. we talked about the anthony sowell case. this was the individual who was arrested a couple years ago for murdering at least 11 women over an extended period of time and keeping the bodies in his house. even though residents complained about the smell, little was done about it until it finally, finally came to the attention of the authorities. this individual, as you suggest, who's in custody right now, may have made statements indicating that he was somehow influenced, perhaps, to take these terrible acts, at least three homicides he may be charged with because of that previous individual, sowell, who committed those 11 homicides. >> and which would be stunning

for many reasons. but in your profile background, do you find people so often ready admit they were inspired by another serial killer? >> well, whether they admit it or not, many times they are. a lot of these people are just not original thinkers. they don't come up with this on their own. in this particular case, this guy is 35 years old. he was arrested in 2002, charged and convicted of an attempted rape. one can only wonder what he's been doing since 2002 to 2013. these three murders that he may be involved in took place over a period of ten days. what set him off ten days ago, or what has he been doing for the last dozen years? >> that is the question. this is why police say that they are looking for possibly more victims here. right now one of the victims has been identified as a 38-year-old resident of cleveland. that according to the mayor.

all right, clint. thank you very much. greatly appreciate it. thank you. >> thank you. up next, our "news nation" gut check on the lack of government oversight of amusement park rides after a texas was was thrown off a coaster. it is still being investigated by six flags over texas. but we're going to tell you how to weigh in on the fact that so many states don't have federal regulators involved in these parks. clients are always learning more to make their money do more. (ann) to help me plan my next move, i take scottrade's free, in-branch seminars... plus, their live webinars. i use daily market commentary to improve my strategy. and my local scottrade office guides my learning every step of the way. because they know i don't trade like everybody. i trade like me. i'm with scottrade. (announcer) scottrade... ranked "highest in customer loyalty for brokerage and investment companies."

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there's a lot going on today. here are some things we just thought you should know. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell will reportedly have a challenger from his own party, but that's not mitch mcconnell. oh, the hill newspaper reports that matt bevin, a local businessman and tea party candidate plans to announce his run for senate this week. finally, work began to today to erase a quote on the martin

luther king jr. monument. it was a paraphrase that read, i was a drum magic for justice, peace, and righteousness. many complained after the memorial opened in 2011 that dr. king's words were taken out of context and made the civil rights lead eer seem arrogant. the work is expected to be finished before the 50th anniversary of the march on washington. those are the things we thought you should know. time now for the "news nation" gut check. it's on the investigation into the death of a mom on a roller coaster at six flags over texas. the amusement park is conducting its own investigation because there's no federal agency with authority to enforce safety standards. texas is one of at least 17 states that have no oversight into amusement parks. what does your gut tell you? should there be government oversight of amusement parks in every state? go to facebook.com/newsnation to cast that vote. that does it for this edition of "news nation." thanks for joining us. see you tomorrow. "the cycle" is up next. ♪

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