we're following breaking news. the much anticipated royal baby has arrived. and those are live pictures outside buckingham palace where the royal family is celebrating the arrival of a child. a baby boy. the first child of the duke and duchess of cambridge is now the third in line to the throne. he was born at 4:24 p.m. london time. that's 11:24 a.m. here on the east coast. the announcement just placed on annesal outside buckingham palace moments ago. we don't have word of a name yet. according to a press release from the palace, we know that the baby weighed in at eight pounds and six ounces. the baby's father prince william was present for the birth. the palace reports that her royal highness and her child are both doing very well and will remain in the hospital overnight. prime minister david cameron said on twitter "i'm delighted for the duke and duchess now

their son has been born. the whole country will celebrate. they'll make wonderful parents." and the prince of wales, prince williams's father said that he was enormously proud and happy to be a grandfather for the first time. and getting us now from london is jim maceda. jim, are you with us? >> reporter: i am. martin, how are you? >> great to hear from you. great to talk to you, jim. now, you've been a foreign correspondent for some time. you know the streets of london well. you know the people very well. just describe the atmosphere as the news came through. >> well, you know, following the initial frenzy, if you would, from let's say a week to two weeks ago and then through the lull after that first day of july 13th, the due date passed, then it slid to the 19th, that

passed, you could feel that there was a tremendous letdown. i mean, frustration was replacing the joy or the anticipation. all that went away today, martin. not just in the this bubble here which has really expanded from about 50 or 0 feet wide for as long as i've seen it to now about a football field to my left and a football field to my right with you can hear them as i speak. >> absolutely. >> people coming who are not journalists coming simply to support the kate and william who they know are inside. and they're getting snippets of information, as well. they don't have the luxury of devices and mobile televisions that we have. so they're getting pieces of information that it was a boy. that she's doing well and every snippet that comes out, you hear this wave of joy really. it truly is palpable.

it's not just amongst them. it's amongst the hardest of the hardened is press, as well. this is a big deal. this is not just the birth of a royal. it's not just the birth of a future king and queen. it's the birth of a future head of state of some 15 or 16 countries. what truck me and-- struck me, s is the first time in history thought you have the four british monarchs alive at the same time. and if you take -- if you start that timeline from queen elizabeth's birth in 1926 and take it hopefully to a very long and productive life for this child who is still unnamed, this royal baby, you've got an expanse of about 200 years. we're talking about two centuries of history. and that even for people who aren't used to covering these types of events like myself, that really does get the heart pumping >> absolutely. >> it's a tremendous amount of relief on the one hand.

>> now, jim, that chronology is wonderful as you look forward to 200 years. but i'm interested in the fact that this baby was actually born at 4:24 local time. and yet, the announcement was made so much later. is that an indication, do you think, of perhaps a fairly traumatic delivery? is there any indication yet that there may be information surrounding that coming? do you think that this was simply a matter of the royal family you know producing the story releasing the news as they chose to, or do you think there was some indication of how traumatic this birth may have been? >> well, i mean, right now, that's the million pound question. it will did raise set off alarm bells amongst all of us when is we saw there was a four-hour plus gap between the actual birth moments and the release of the information. now, maybe it was some of the

couriers who are stepping in at that point trying to regulate, trying to make things as smooth as possible. we don't know. she's always been considered to be an extremely thin slight you have hip woman. some of my female friends and colleagues told me that that means it could have been a very difficult birth. we don't know yet. they may release that information. they may not. there might be something we find out much later down the line. but it did raise a lot of questions amongst the press corps here. >> jim maceda fighting the crowd. stay with us. we're now going to going to nbc's annabelle roberts. annabelle, you were there when the ceremonial moment took place in an age of twitter, in all the digital platforms and yet still out came the easel and the signed and signatories of the obstetricians, gynecologists places on that easel outside

buckingham palace. >> that's right, martin. the crowds here cheered. there was, i'm several hundred meters away. you could hear the cheers over here as the easel was put in place and then when the bulletin was finally pinned up onto the easel. a lot of people here have been waiting all day for this moment. it has been incredibly hot about 93 which is really hot for london. >> unprecedentedly hot. >> absolutely. certainly the hottest day of this year. so crowds were slightly thinner than they might have been. there has been an anticipation. it did rather drag on, over 1 hours i understand. probably a bit less. which is quite a long time though it is a first laeb, of course, and they do tend to be a great longer. a great accepts of relief and excitement waiting to know what the names will be. of course, an s we all know,

alexandre was the top name. now james and george seem to be the top choices. williams's birth, his name was announced like a week after he was born. charles and diana were a bit quicker with harry. that took about a day. when prince charles' name was announced, the queen and prince philip took over a month to announce his name. i think we can expect something in a couple of days. he will have three or four names. there's plenty of room for respect to their forbears and perhaps their very close releases. we might even see mike in there as a tribute to kate's father, michael minuteton. we understand the prime minister has conveyed his congratulations to the happy couple and their newborn. >> that's right. congratulations from david cameron, the prime minister. of course, tributes are pouring in from politicians and leaders in britain. but also around the commonwealth because of course, this little

baby boy will one day be king of britain. and the commonwealth countries. that's assuming that the commonwealth is still existing in its current form. it's worth thinking that this child is unlikely to be crowned king till say 2070. that really is a long time. the queen is still active in good health. we've got charles who is really at the age of retirement for many people. but hasn't yet started his main job yet. william there will also waiting. this little boy has got quite a long wait. >> we understand the prime minister is actually making a statement outside. he's actually made a statement already just outside of number 10. we'll bring it to you in a moment. annabelle,s in terms of the naming of the child, you referenced earlier the length of time it took for william's name to be announced, prince william. how long do you think it will be in relation to this is little boy that's just been born today? >> well, obviously, there's a lot of pressure for them to make

an announcement very quickly. i think they'll take their time. kate and william have shown they really want to do things their own way. and i think we can deduties fact that we've had so little information throughout the pregnancy and even today throughout the labor what was going on, as really kate and william trying to manage things and do it their way. if you think about the onlinous we had today was that the labor was progressing as normal. and we've all been out here for hours and hours waiting for news. that's all we had to go on. there's an been an electrical of information. i think they'll take their time and do it the way they want. i'm sure they've drawn up a short list. everyone does that. i heard they wanted to wait till they saw the face of this child before they whittled down their short list and made their final selections of names. i think alfred could be a good choice. and louis might be in there tucked in the middle just as first names.

that's a personal hunch. george and james are the top choice of the people at the moment. >> your reference to louis, of course, is a reference tons lord mountbatten, correct? >> absolutely. of course, he was prince charles was incredibly close 0 lord mountbatten. and he was helped with the upbringing of prince philip. he was his uncle. there's a strong family connection there, which you understand very much, as well. i think that could be one way of paying respect 0 that side of charles' family. >> and nap bell roberts, thank you so much. also with us to mark this regal occasion is dr. andrew roberts, nbc'snous british historian. good afternoon how are you? >> you're delighted at this news. >> thrilled. it's a wonderful new chapter. it's one of the great things about this institution, it can reinvent itself constantly. that's what it's doing today. >> a prince you have cambridge,

when was the last prince of cambridge? 19th century? >> yes, it was queen victoria's brother, the actual -- he was a prince but also duke of cambridge. it was arthur of cambridge who was a very serious and substantial figure, very important commander in chief of the british army at one point. and so it's a happy name. >> and in terms of the future of the royal family, this baby be born, some would say, at actually a really good point in -- a good moment because the royal family appears to have learned an enormous amount from the travails of their experience with princess diana. and in the lives of prince williams and princess catherine, they appeared to have learned so much. that's shown in the way they've handled their other marriage and life. >> it's a quite poignant thing that diana would have become a grandmother today. but that also reminds us how

things move on. how her memory takes its place in the rest of the great historical story of the house of windsor, and we now look to the future and to this new baby and to the future of the house of windsor which i think now is stronger really than it's been for, well, at any time since the second world war. that's certainly what the polling is showing, as well. >> yes, the public's affection in britain for the royal family is undiminished. isn't it? >> it went through a terrible time in the 1990s. since then, i think the fact that prince charles has proved himself to be a good father and the duchess of cornwall a good stepmother to the boys has helped enormously in the public both in britain and around the world and in the commonwealth. and also here in america i think. coming round to the fact that prince charles is a good thing. >> do you think that the birth

of this baby means that the queen may be more likely to abdicate in the near future? >> i think less likely actually. >> less likely. >> yes. she's seen. 2013 pope benedict abdicate, the king of the belgians abdicate, the queen of holland abdicate. there is absolutely no indication she thinks it's part of her duty, the duty she took in her core row nation oath which she took so seriously to give up this. i think she would see it as appalling dereliction of duty. the only person to have done it was her uncle in terrible circumstances in the crisis of 1936. now she sees the whole attention of the media moving off prince charles and on to this young new prince, this baby prince. and, of course, his parents. i think she's under less pressure than she was before. >> do you think therefore, that means that charles' period on the throne is likely to be even

more truncated than it already has been? >> well, that happens. it happened with queen victoria, king edward vii was only on the throne for nine years. this is occasionally going to happen. if your correspondent earlier said this was the first time in history that four generations all alive same. that's not actually true. it also happened when edward viii was born till the death of victoria. it's over a century since this has happened. and it's a great indication of the way, as i say, that this institution consistently reinvents itself and the house of windsor can move on. >> it's also finally to you andrew a mark of the queen's great commitment and dedication it duty and service to the nation, isn't it? >> well, duty and dignity and honor are all bound up in queen elizabeth ii. she personifies all of those. it's not easy to personify a

nation for are 86 years in the way that she has. and this little baby, of course, is going to having to do it himself, as well throughout his life. what amazing weight on its shoulders of duty and responsibility to carry. and yet, all he has to do is look at the example of his great grandmother and he'll see the way to do it. >> dr. andrew roberts, historian extraordinaire. thank you, sir. >> thank you, martin. >> prime minister david cameron as i said, made a statement a few moments ago. let's just take a listen. >> it's wonderfulnous from st. mary's paddington. i'm sure right across the country and indeed across the commonwealth, people will be celebrating and wishing the royal couple well. it is an important moment in the life of our nation. but i suppose above all, it's a wonderful moment for a warm and lofing couple who got a brand-new baby boy. it's been a remarkable few years for our royal family, a royal wedding that captured people's

hearts, that extraordinary and magnificent jubilee and now this royal birth. all from a family that have given this nation so much incredible service. and they can know that a proud nation is celebrating with the very proud and happy couple tonight. >> a beaming prime minister david cameron there be just outside of number ten downing street. i should say that there's also been a statement issued by the prince of wales and the dutch yes, sir of cornwall following the birth of the royal baby. the prince said this evening both my wife and i are overjoyed at the an rival of my first grandchild. it is an incredibly special moment for wilym and catherine and we are so thrilled for them on the birth of their baby boy. nbc's michelle kosinski is with us now from outside of st. mary's hospital paddington. when i last saw you, i believe you were at the middle family home in buckle berry in bark shirr, is that right? >> yeah, but i wasn't exactly having tea with them.

i was in the town. i was not at their family home to be precise. >> thank you for that journalistic. >> about an hour and a half away from here. >> thank you for your integrity. >> we were waiting to see the -- i this i we have a slight delay, martin. we were waiting to see if the birth happened here, whether william and catherine would head to buckleberry has, it, hasn't been a rumor, it's been more speculation because they're place right now at kennington palace is a two-bedroom college, it's been reported that cottage doesn't have air conditioning and that's why the kate has been spending so much time at her parents house they just bought recently. lots of space up there. lots of privacy. right now we know the birth has happened, happily remains to be seen where exactly this royal couple will go. in about a day's time. >> we keep hearing, michelle, the ringing of a bell. is that the london town

criernouncrier announcing the birth? >> it is. you no he that bell? you recognize that ring exactlying? he came out here about, i don't know, maybe 20 minutes ago and caused a lot of confusion. mainly because there have been so many pranks out here. maybe you've seen some of them. the bedding agencies that had people dressed up as different members of the royal family, including william and kate themselves. this town crier shows up. gets up on the front steps of the hospital wing. and the president is just yelling for him to move away thinking get this guy out of here. but apparently somehow he really is a town crier. and he delivered a statement that was very hard to hear bob the din of people cheering and the press yelling at one another to get out of the way. but it ended with god save the queen. >> absolutely. of course, it did. now, this baby was born as we know now at 4:24 p.m. local time. yet, the announcement was made

some hours later. michelle, have you been able to learn any background details about why the dpla delay in disseminating that news. >> so far no. everybody has been busy trying to deliver the news of the birth. when that announcement came across all of our phones, we saw it in the e-mailed press release form, that was one of the first questions on of's lips is, 4:24? and this buzz kind of went out among all the journalists out here. that was so long ago. how could this be so delayed? and, of course, one of the questions accompanying ta was, was there some problem? was the baby okay? we know now, according to that announcement, that mother and baby are doing fine and resting. and we'll stay overnight at the hospital. that's going to be something that people are going to want to know about over the next day. how is kate? was this a natural birth? we believe it was because it was

our understanding that if it was cesarian, that that would also be announced. but you know, it's all so new. we're waiting to get more information at this point. >> of course, the baby was quite heavy at eight pounds, eight pounds six ounces. >> right. yeah, i think everyone out here also just sort of suttered, poor kate everyone was saying. that is a big baby. 8 1/2 pounds. kate is a very tall woman. she's 5'10", 5'11" i think. and i mean, william is also tall. i think he's 6'3". we spec aid very tall child to come out of this marriage. but you know, hopefully all went well in there. and at least according to the announcement, everyone is fine and that's important to know right now. so people are rejoicing. cheering, groups of students out here. very happy. and sharing that it was a prince. it was kind of an interesting twist that everyone was saying

it's a girl. in fact, one of the betting agencies paid out early because there was some pest reporting early on. i think it was in early june. i could be wrong about that date. but kate was misreported as having almost given away the gender. it was reported she stopped herself and said i'll give this to my as if she was to say daughter. word spread worldwide. did she giveaway the gender. it sort of stuck from there. so there's lots of surprise along with the rejoicing that yes, it really is a boy. >> the coup counsel themselves maintained that they were unaware of the gender of the baby. is that right? >> yeah, that's what the palace has announced. there's no reason for them to try to hide that from people. you know, they could have said that they know the gender but they're not giving it away. that might have quelled some of the press speculation.

surrounding this, when there's a longer period of time than everyone expected waiting up to the birth, of course, there's going to be talk and speculationing about everything surrounding this regardless. the papers have to be filled with something, right, martin? >> they do. and it appears that whenever the doors of the wing open, the cameras strike up immediately even if it's just the odd obstetrician quietly completing his duties. >> the truth is nobody really knows what most of the people involved look like. it was a big problem when it was announced who the aide would be that would deliver the birth announcement. coming out of the hospital, that that would be the big tipoff that the birth happened. we were given a name and no one really knows who this person was. we know he was a producer for one of the local tv networks here. so you know, people were waiting to see him. it was a classic expression on his face when is he did come out. he knew the eyes of the world

quite literally were on him. he had a sheepish expression like okay, i just want to deliver it to the waiting car and then get back inside. kind of a cute moment. because there is a lot of pageantry involved here. it's sometimes a little quirky and clumnky world because you'r balancing an official piece of paper attacked to a piece of paper outside the palace with e-mails and tweets. it's an odd mix sometimes but it's a fun one. that added to the excitement among around all the people around the world, viewers waiting to see the same kinds of information we're waiting for out here. >> michelle kosinski outside st. mary's hospital. we're now joined my chris jansing who is also with us from london. where are you, chris? and can you describe what's going on? >> i'm actually just down from michelle, martin. i've been watching groups of families coming in and people

just want to be around here for this moment. they know they're not likely to see anything. we know that the prince and the new prince are going to be staying in hospital overnight. but in fact, they just want to be here. part of the excitement. i was talking about this earlier today. i've covered so many events like this. but i don't think i've ever seen a crush of photographers quite like this because you have literally scores and scores of cameras, still cameras, video cameras from all around the world and they all just want the shot of that door. it's been very interesting to see how the crowd has grown through the day and now tonight with the announcement of the birth. people have been really coming in and just wanting to be here and be a part of it, martin. >> chris, i'm assuming that you haven't seen any other members of the royal family or indeed, princess catherine's family visiting at all at this stage

since it's so soon after the birth. >> no, we haven't seen. and we weren't expecting to see anything. there was some hope that maybe after the official announcement was made that perhaps prince william would come out and he might say something on the steps. i think the darker it gets, the less likely that is to be. i can tell you that some friend of mine here in london were having drinks with one of the royal cousins and actually happened to look up on the tv screen at the bar and said to him, you're an uncle. he's not actually the uncle but he is a cousin to william and knows hill well. so there were many points raised by all as i'm sure there are in pubs all around england tonight. >> i'm sure there have been. chris, thank you so much. outside buckingham palace, weise have camilla tominy and keir simmons joining us now. camilla, you were one of the first to report news of the birth, were you not?

>> i was on my phone, martin. basically kensington palace sent us uk press journalists, the nooup lot, the royal rat pack as we like to be called a miss sieve saying they changed the arrangement slightly. they were going to announce the birth before it went onto the easel. we thought it would go onto the easel and that came out and said an announcement was imminent. usually kensington palace don't try to send out miss sibs is unless they give a hint something is about to happen. it was five-minute warning and it was all systems go. get on twitter, i think sometimes journalism can be a bit too quick fire but in this case, i happened to be right. >> you happened to be right. >> the she's eight months pregnant. so pretty impressive job. >> i was going to raise that and ask her whether she felt nepal

patations as a consequence of the excitement today. >> do you know what, martin? i was half hoping at one stage that my waters would break. i'd be invited into the wing for a buy one, get one free. i could give birth alongside the duchess of cambridge. >> that was be a great story, wouldn't it. >> it would certainly have been a lot cheaper since it's 5,000 pounds a night at the wing. so you would have saved yourself a lot of morning. what's your experience been in following developments from where you are? >> just the excitement here. when we first began to get those indications that camilla was talking about, they put up that easel behind the gates of buckingham palace behind me here. the crowd just currentlied forward to the gates to take a look. they're still there now though. you can still see people coming forward to try and see because you can imagine, you've seen the pictures. it is quite difficult to get a

glimpse of it at the gates. so people are having to wait turns to have a look. really not traditional. they've just started doing it with this birth. but that marvelous drive where ed perkins, can the press secretary to william and kate walked out of the lindo wing with the declaration, hand it over. the jaguar drives through the streets of london and alives here with the declaration. remember a royal birth in the hospital is not the way that it was always done. that began with william before that charles was born here at buckingham palace. the queen was born in a private house. so they're always building these traditions around the modern world and this is a new one. it's pretty fun. >> also, camilla, it's worth remembering that when prince charles was born, his father, prince philip, i believe was actually playing squash and nowhere near the delivery suite. >> that's right.

prince charles said to be the first royal dad to be in the delivery room although i got corrected. apparently prince albert was present for some of queen victoria's births. she had eight children. so had he plenty of choice. so the essence of modern phenomena is something we, of course, recognize around these parts and in the 21st century. dads are there in the labor ward. but not necessarily a traditional royal thing to do. william said he wanted to be there. it's great he's been by his wife's side. >> you wouldn't want all of the traditions. queen victoria, for example, when he she had her children, the number of people who had to be in the room or in an ajaysent room, politicians and such, you played that clip from the prime minister. deputies to the prime minister would have had to have been there at one time. i guess this kind of media surround this media attention is the modern day equivalent of it. but at the same time, the modern day way is the father is there

and not many others apart from medical staff. >> was it not the case, camilla, i think till charles was born, the home secretary of the united kingdom would be in the delivery suite? >> right. >> so the home secretary was the there for when the queen was born. and thankfully, king george vi said i don't really want this tradition upheld for my daughter when she was going to give birth to prince charles. they scrapped that one. considering the outcry caused by the suggestion that carolyn might be in the of delivery room, if our home secretary had turned up too, it would have been a little bit of a problem. >> i don't think she would want to be there either. >> i think you're right. keir, there was a lot of speculation particularly amongst bookmakers this was going to be a girl. they've saved themselves a lot of money today, haven't they. >> they really have. speculation to the point of discussing what kind of girls' names there might be. people were betting on

alexandre, which would be, of course, this baby's great, great, great grandmother, queen alexandra. there's one person we must not forget. that it is diana. she can't be here. and how much she would have loved to have been here and, of course, had it been a baby girl, you might well have seen her name amongst the names they gave her. with all of the excitement and celebration and the family gathering round, there is one person missing. for william in particular, that will be poignant clearly. he will be thinking about that at this time. >> i agree, yeah. also, if you think about the names, you know, obviously diana could have featured. i'd be very, very very surprised if william's grand father, prince philip isn't acknowledged at some point in those names. william's middle name is philip, one of them anyway. i think if philip doesn't appear

there particularly because william and his grandfather are so close, it was prince philip who encouraged him to walk behind his mother's coffin, he didn't want to, very poignant moment not to have one of the grandmothers around. if princess diana was around, she would an loved in this moment. how wonderful william is happily married and now a new dad. a lovely day for everybody. >> royal births are traditionally announced with a 41-gun salute by the royal horse artillery. are we to expect that tomorrow? >> we are getting that tomorrow. the town crier has taken it upon imds to -- himself to ring the bell. that's probably his crowning moment, pardon the pun. we have the salute tomorrow probably a bit too late tonight. we probably kept london up long

enough. there's still plenty of people at at buckingham palace. all of the pomp and pageantry will be carried out in the morning. >> keir, final question to you. the prime minister has mentioned the succession to the crown of act 2013, something he spent time selling to the commonwealth nations where the queen is still head of state. does the fact fa this is a boy now render that somewhat less i guess less important, less pressing? ing >>. >> well, less pressing, yes. but clearly at some point, this was a change that needed to be made. it's pretty outdated to be honest. to say that the first born boy will be the monarch and not the girl even if the first born is a girl. even if, as you know, the rule was if there were even several girls before the boy, none of them would be monarchs. it was an important change to make. but at the same time, clearly isn't one that they needed to make in such a hurry knowing

what they know now. >> the fact that this child won't take the throne for i don't know, it could be half a century. so they're rushing through the legislation. if it had of been a girl, it won't have been relevant till she took the throne after the queen, after charles. >> thank you so much. we're going back now to annabelle roberts who i believe is outside the gates of buckingham palace. annabelle? >> hi, martin. well, yes i'm here at the buckingham palace. a short distance from the crowds. there are still plenty of people there. all rushed over eagerly when the easel first appeared in the forecourt behind the railings. then there was a huge cheer when the medical bulletin was put up on that easel, which was, of course, the first indication of the gender of the baby. well, the first formal indication. of course, we would have that press release that informed us earlier. there was i allot of reaction to

that slightly ceremonial formal moment that took place just about an hour or so ago. it's worth remembering it is the very same easel used 31 years ago to announce the birth of william. >> is it still possible to see the easel? there are lots of people behind. >> well, your view is probably very similar to mine because i can't actually see through it. as i understand, it is being removed tonight. it's not going to be left up all night. whether or not it's gone, i can't tell from you here. there's certainly plenty of people still out there looking. so i suspect it's still there. the excitement is great here. it's a lovely balmy evening here. lots of people still piling up, cheering. so there's quite a good festive atmosphere here. everyone will now be looking to see when kate and william leave the hospital. we know they're going to spend, william and the baby will spend the night there.

she will be in overnight. whether she returns home tomorrow to the palace, i guess we don't know. i guess that depends how uncomfortable she is. it was quite a long labor as you discussed earlier. it was quite a long delay between the birth of this child and the announcement of that birth which many people have interpreted because it was a difficult birth. and that there ever, it took i an bit of time to be ready to make that announcement. it's worthy bearing in mind the queen had to be informed, david cameron, the prime minister all had to be informed. that would have taken equate a lot of time, as well. the crowd's attention now is turning to kensington palace which is a short distance down the road from here where it's thought the couple will return, possibly maybe i should say possibly tomorrow, martin. >> and anna bell, we've had a statement from the prime minister outside ten downing street. we've had a statement from prince charles and the duchess of cornwall issued by clarence house. have we heard anything from her majesty, the queen?

>> there has been, as i understand it, a message from the queen. just a short -- i'm afraid i don't have that in front of me. the message from charles and camilla was extremely moving how proud he was to become a grandfather. he'd heard it was such a poignant moment in a person's life. he was happy and proud expressing very deep love of his son and daughter-in-law. they've obviously become very close over the very many years that they've known each other. kate and williams's relationship stretched back such a long time. proud and loving message from charles and camy la. it's not her first grandchild. she has five of her own so charles does have plenty of experience of dealing with little children being around little children. of course, this one being his own will be that much more special no doubt. >> of course. annabelle roberts, thank you so much. and do stay with us. we'll have much more on the royal birth and the celebrations in london straight ahead. wait a sec!

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eep the veriables in london are resounding to the celebrations of a new royal baby. that is the london post office tower, a very tall building at the heart of london near oxford street. that major shopping area with delightful graphics playing it's a boy. easy to see from anywhere in the city. and in that city is nbc's michelle kosinski still with us from outside st. mary's hospital. michelle, i have to ask you this question. you've been following this royal pregnancy from the very beginning. now, as you well know, you americans do not have royalty as such. or dukes and duchesss. what's it been like for an american following this story?

>>. >> i mean, it's hard to tell being over here. i kind of only know based on viewer reaction. sometimes that reaction is surprisingly strong. you might put something you the on facebook or twitter that is breaking news and you almost kind of brace yourself for people to get back to you and say there's other news. what's this? but actually you'd be surprised how many responses come back all excited asking for more information. even sometimes when you go back to the u.s. and certain people, you know, who think they have other better this innings to talk about might roll their eyes at times but then immediately after, then they're asking for, well, where is kate now? and when is the due date. so often, people who think they'd rather talk about other things kind of really wanted to still talk about the royal baby. kind of interesting how that happens when it comes to celebrity stories. almost a guilty pleasure among some people but many people right now are just openly

celebrating this. it's a beautiful happy story for the summer. yes, it is royalty we don't have in the u.s. although some might consider our celebrities to be akin to that. but the tradition i think that's imbued in all of this and really comes out beautifully because the british do it so well, that's something that america doesn't have to this scale. it's really interesting to see it. i mean people sort of delight in seeing a town crier or an announcement tacked to an easel outside the palace gates. really is a spectacle. makes you a little sad sometimes that these are real people with real lives and up there on that top floor, there are two new parents who are probably half happy and half nervous and scared. so covering it to this extent i think at times you feel a bit guilty that you're putting so much of a spotlight on human beings. but the royal family has been doing this for hundreds and hundreds of years. and they know how to handle it.

seems especially now in the modern age where they do balance privacy and public, they do have a lot of private time, believe it or not. in between appearances, often no one knows where they are or what they're doing. they go off on private vacations. the problem is when they do step out in public, of course, they're moved by cameras. they seemed to have balanced that well especially with rules and press restrictions that have been in place. >> do you detect, michelle and i speak to you as the town crier continues to ring his bell, do you detect the media is slightly cowed and perhaps humbled following the press hacking inquiries because of course, that started with prince william's phone texts being discovered and this talk of a knee injury that he was nursing. do you detect that the press are perhaps a little less invasive this time around?

>> i'm not so sure. people are always going to do it up to a certain limit because everybody wants that scoop. everybody wants that first headline to sell their papers. i mean, here in london, there's a lot of competition over these papers. it's different than what we see in the u.s. the hacking, the misconduct, the bribery, that was all going on deep inside the scenes. we as an american news organization did not see it, and did not know about it at least our colleagues didn't. so it's hard to really tell what will really goes on. but i think outwardly, people do try to be respectful and i'll tell you, reporting in other countries including america, you see a lot more pushing and shoving and jostling than a place like this. there are a lot of police and they get angry when you disan boy the rules here.

the british are big on politeness. that is true. and that does extend to the press. i find the press here in a big group where things do get tight and everyone's on top of each other politeness seems to be the order of the day. and we haven't seen that everywhere. you know? other places it can be a lot worse. >> michelle kosinski, thank you so much for such a complementary view of the british press. thank you so much. joining us once again is british historian dr. andrew roberts who has been closely watching today's developments from here in new york. andrew, this has been a spectacular summer, has it not? we've had the british irish lions winning a rugby series in australia. wimbledon, and a brit, chris room has won the tour de france all topped off with a new royal baby. >> it's incredible. the feel good factor in britain which let's face it, the economy

hasn't been going great guns recently. well for years now. and quite a lot of political things that haven't been going well. yet this feel good factor about britain, the other thing you didn't mention was the weather's been fantastic in london. >> which is utterly extraordinary. >> yeah, i was there last week. it was 30 degrees again and again and again. so actually, this is fantastically good news for david cameron. had he had the jubilee and the royal wedding. he's got this fantastic new baby. he's got a wonderful soorz of good news as you say in sporting activity. and very often this many can translate into the positive political numbers. one looks at the time in 1966 when the world cup took place during the general election. that helped harold wilson and also the birg of prince william with margaret thatcher. these things can translate into

the tangible games. >> if ever a prime minister needed tangible gains, this is one. he's leading a coalition that's had its iraq difficulties. the economy has been in something of a sluch for a considerab -- slump for a time. this is definitely good news for a country that's had a tough time lately. >> when one things of the problems he inherited, in a way he has done well, extraordinaire to keep this coalition together at all. we haven't had a coalition in britain since the 1930s. this really was a hell of an acheebment in and of itself. now he looks as though he's level pegging in the polls against the opposition labor party and who's to know. there's only an election in two years time. anything is possible. >> this is a very modern birth. i was remarking on the fact that when prince charles was born, his father was playing squash. >> that's right. it was a different world, wasn't it? i know that. i think we all know that from

our own families, as well. my father wasn't present at my birth but i was certainly present at the birth of my two children and won't have missed it for the world. this is an absolute classic example of the royal family moving with the times. >> absolutely. i was present for all our three and our first was a 17 1/2 hour labor. >> wow. >> my permanent and eternal gratitude to my beautiful wife. thank you so much, dr. andrew roberts. do stay with us. we'll have much more right ahead on the royal birth. stay with us. i've been coloring liz's hair for years.

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with humble duty a future king. >> that was the london town crier announcing the birth of a new baby royal baby boy weighing in at eight pounds six ounces. born to the duchess of cambridge at 4:24 p.m. local time. and with us now is nbc news special correspondent ben fogel live from our london bureau. ben, it has been an extraordinaire summer. it doesn't matter where you look from sport to the weather, and now a royal baby, too. >> it's really topped it all off. it has been a summer of extraordinaire sporting achievements. what you must remember for us brits, we're famous for failing at sports. we've surprised ourselves. we've got this glorious weather and now to cap it all, a new baby prince. you know, it's tangible, out on the streets coming here this evening, i went close to the hospital, past buckingham palace. there's huge celebration and

happiness. it's not really the britain i'm used to. it's a bit disconcerting to be honest. >> am i right in suggesting that you yourself have a relative who may also be at that very hospital? >> i actually called at 8:00 this morning for my sister to lives next door to me and i volunteered to take her and her husband into hospital. i dropped them off. her contractions started. she hasn't given birth yet. i keep checking my phone. she's -- i think her child does not want to go out. i think it's the terrifying prospect of all the cameras and photographers outside. it's staying put. but maybe by midnight it will be born and it will share a very significant birthday. >> a wonderful double celebration for you, ben. you know the prince quite well. how well or how do you think they will be managing this precise moment?

>> michelle summed it up very well earlier. they're very good at containing their public life and private life. and the fact that they were able to have those few hours where only they knew the sex of their little child, only they knew they had a child in this world, that's extraordinary in this day and age. i've no doubt that tonight, they're probably sitting back kind of wiping a bead of sweat from their foreheads and marveling at this incredible creation. and trying to have a semblance of norm malt. obviously, once they step out of that door, they're in the public glaze as will their new baby boy. and then they'll try and have a sense of norm malt again. it's such an uprooting thing having a child anyway. the most wonderful experience and loads of viewers will know what i'm talking about and you martin, will remember all of that, as well. >> i do. >> you kind of -- yeah. and it's amazing how the mind filters out all the sleepless

nights. i'm already getting broody now just watching it. but i'm not sure that i really want a newborn right now in my house. but no, i think they'll be enjoying this incredible moment. i think a lot of people get confused between the fact that the whole world's attention is on them now. people think how can they possibly have a semblance of privacy but they do. it becomes harder in this day and age of social media. but i think they'll still manage is it. >> ben, thank you so much for your insights. thank you. and a final word on the royal birth straight ahead. hey linda! what are you guys doing? having some fiber! with new phillips' fiber good gummies. they're fruity delicious! just two gummies have 4 grams of fiber! to help support regularity!

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weighing eight pounds and six ounces who is now the third in the line to the british throne. the name will be the next surprise. but thank you so much for watching. chris matthews and "hardball" is next. another prince here today. god save the queen. >> let's play "hardball \sgood evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. and we're following the breaking news from london tonight where probably the most anticipated birth in the world took place earlier today. the baby boy was born just over five and a half hours ago to the duchess of cambridge, wife of prince