economic calamity but to really do something for the broad middle class and everybody aspiring to join the middle class. >> robert reich gets tonight's last word. thank you very much, robert. >> thanks, lawrence. >> up next, "hardball" with chris matthews. weiner strikes again. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews down in washington. let me start tonight with the latest on the new york mayoral candidate anthony weiner. the latest is that there is a latest. a bit more than an hour ago, weiner admitted his sexting, e-mailing pictures of himself to often to unsuspecting women didn't stop with his forced resignation from congress. let's get straight what we're talking about here.

this guy who wants to represent the greatest city in the country was sending frontal nude pictures of himself apparently to strangers whom he is as of tonight asking their forgiveness for any, quote, inconvenience, closed quote, those pictures have caused them. what can you say? this man breathes chutzpah. it hasn't stopped, only the form of his exhibition has changed, from sexting to running out there live for public office. tonight the incredible story of someone with a problem that apparently hasn't gone away. a problem that not even the city that never sleeps could really be willing to put in gracie mansion. nbc's kelly o'donnell is covering this story for us tonight. we're also joined by joan walsh, the editor of salon. and jim warren of the new york daily news. thank you, all. i want all of your views. in his press conference late today, and it was just about an hour ago, weiner said he was not withdrawing for the mayor's race, telling throngs of reporters that his past was behind him. he spoke about the timeline in which he engaged in that second round of inappropriate behavior. let's listen.

>> now some have asked the question where does this fit in, some timeline, some timeline of the continuum of the resignation, the resignation was not a point in time that was nearly as important to my wife and me as the challenges in our marriages and working through them. some of these happened before my resignation. some of them happened after. but the fact is that that was also the time that my wife and i were working through some things in our marriage. >> jim warren, in the universe of this fellow here, anthony weiner, see what he did with the hand? i can shake away a timeline. the key question we all knew was the question from reporters tonight, and he jumped it. he answered it. he continued this after he resigned, after the humiliation, after his problems with his marriage, which were obvious now.

he continued all the way through until he began planning the run for mayor. in other words, he sacrificed his nude texting of himself so he could be mayor of new york, another form of exhibitionism. how could anybody say they want him to be the mayor of new york city. your thoughts. >> a majority of voters are now saying that. >> as of this morning. >> right. it's still absolutely fascinating. as i was watching this, i realized i'm part of the problem, i'm part of the cultural change. i found this less shocking than entertaining. a lot of this has now become entertainment. >> the fact that the mayor of new york maybe has a problem of sending out nude pictures of himself to strangers? >> i'm saying one of the factors that is playing out in this culture is that a lot of americans for a whole bunch of reasons, they're less judgmental. >> i think you're projecting from new york. >> between the professional and the personal. >> this isn't personal. he is sexting. he is not keeping them to himself. >> i'm not defending this. >> why are you saying it's personal? >> i'm not. >> why are you saying it's personal? >> people are viewing what they

deem personal indiscretions and differentiating that -- >> nice try. let me go to kelly on the news. the news here tonight is he continued to do this afterwards. in fact, if you listen to the end of his press conference, he said he was doing it right up through last summer at about the time he began to plan his latest political career. that's not stopping somebody because you don't like doing it, it's sacrificing at least until we know more. your thoughts. this is news tonight. and he admitted it. >> it seems like we have the dmz culture colliding with honorable public service. and here you have an important race being decided by the voters of new york. and people are forgiving to an extent. what is so bizarre about this is not only the nature of the underlying issue that we're in a sexting world now, where these things are accessible by the rest of us looking at this, but also the time frame, so compressed here. if you remember two years ago, there were these vehement denials. there was this fearless resilience from anthony weiner saying he could continue in congress. there was no reason for him to have to step down, until really

pushed by his own friends who were embarrass bed him. then there is this period of what we thought was a family healing, the birth of a child, sort of going in to hiding. that is usually what follows a public fall from grace. and then the big campaign to come back, acknowledging mistakes, which gives everyone the idea he recognized the gravity of it and that he was really getting past it. that was the impression that he was giving to voters and those who are inclined to want to give people second chances, which we've certainly seen a lot of in american politics, that's where we started. so the notion that could have gone beyond the date of his resignation is really hard for the rest of us to believe. he may not think that's about the date. but when you're talking about seeking public office, the date you were forced out is really important. you can separate what is going

on in their life and marriage and people feel great compassion about that. what we're talking about now is his judgment, his political conduct, his really incredible self-aware -- how am i trying to say this. arrogance is the word i want to use, but i was going to try to soften it a bit. to say that he could go forward again. and that's what is so striking about this. and today brought in his well regarded wife. >> of course. they always do. let's take a look at the q&a session where he brought his wife along, huma with reporters. here is anthony weiner. he was asked point-blank when was the last time you did this. and here was his answer. >> when was the last explicit text? >> um, i can't say exactly. some time last summer, i think. >> was it after you told "people" magazine it was a lot of work to get where we are today? >> yes. >> an interesting question. when is the last time you sent naked pictures of yourself to strangers. he said um, i can't remember exactly. the reporter is referring to this interview that weiner and his wife conducted with "people" magazine last july.

in that interview, his wife huma abedin told the magazine, quote, i want people to know we're a normal family. anthony has spent every day since the scandal trying to be the best dad and husband he can be. i'm proud to be married to him. we don't know what she knew, what she is willing to accept now. she is out there helping her husband. i give all kinds of forgiveness to spouses that are loyal. joan, i disagree with james warren here. i think this is an embarrassment for the democratic party. if he becomes the mayor, not if he loses. if he loses, fine. if he were ever to get elected, he would become the poster boy, with everything that is wrong with the democratic party nationwide. all the old figures they used to attack, would be nothing compared to this guy named weiner who has exposed himself across the country and then was chosen by the democratic party of new york to be mayor of our finest city. after rudy cleaned up the city and bloomberg has done a famous job and making it proud for the whole country. everybody likes new york now. bring in weiner to mess it all up again. your thoughts.

>> it hasn't happened yet. to go back to timeline that he doesn't think is important, but kelly makes a great point. he has told the story of redemption. he and his wife have told the story of healing, of repentance, of getting help, of getting therapy, of being the best dad he could be. and now when you good back and logistic at that timeline, and you look at the comments that they both made, whether to "people" magazine or that loving "new york times" magazine profile, he was essentially lying. and i think that the people of new york are going to be very hard put to give him a second chance for that. redemption is one thing. but a pattern of evasion, he has deliberately, if not lied, evaded and misled reporters and the voters about his timeline of recovery. people get a chance to recover. people get a chance to get help. but he deliberately i think misled and threw us off the trail. and look, mayor bloomberg today

vetoed the community safety act, which was an effort by the city council to get a handle on racial profiling and stop and frisk. that's a big deal in the city today, chris. we're not talking about that. people care, but, you know, the media is all obsessed with this man's exhibitionism and this man's mental problems. >> chris? >> it is not to disagree what you or any of the other guys have just said in trying to explain what the reaction has been. for example, one of the most stunning -- >> we haven't gotten the reaction yet. >> up until now, come on, there a body of evidence about total lack of self-discipline, a huge amount of dishonesty by this guy. explain to me even as of last week there was absolutely no gender gap in the polling. in fact, anthony weiner with all the stuff on the table, and i say this stunned, was leading when it came to new york women against christine quinn who had been thought to be the front-runner who was the head of the city council there. how in the world do you explain that? >> well, pat moynihan did a wonderful job of it. academically, he called it the defining deviancy dam. where you get used to the lowest politician.

>> correct. i think one of the problems with this whole country is that guys like weiner and spitzer benefit from the fact that our esteem for that class of people have plummeted. we have set the bar so frigging low in this country. >> go ahead. i think mike bloomberg has been decent all the way. i think he has been a clean model. he keeps his private life private, just the way ed koch did. he has ever embarrassed the city of new york, ever. >> absolutely. >> and rudy before him. we can argue about a lot of rudy stuff, but he cleaned up that city. it's a great place to go. and people move there now. go ahead, your thoughts. >> i would not have voted for anthony weiner before today. i will not vote for him after today. but i think there is also a level of defiance among democrats. you know, we mention spitzer and weiner and we don't mention visitor and sanford and these other people who have trade and done ridiculous things and get forgiven, get to continue on with their careers. so this is true in both parties. both parties have had this problem. but somehow people feel like there is a different standard

for democrats. so that's part of the embrace of -- >> well, he didn't exactly keep it private. >> well, no, he department. and i think people were willing -- i was not among them, i'll be honest. but i think people were willing, as i said before to play along with this redemption narrative, give him a second chance, let him go and be a fight again for new york. and now this comes out that he has been basically misleading the voters and the media all along. i don't see this ending as well for anthony weiner. >> the only reason we're talking about this is he was outed again in terms of his behavior. weiner was asked is about those reports of inappropriate conversations and sexting as it is called. here is his response. >> one of the things i'm not going to do, and i said it earlier, i'm not going to get into a back and forth whether these thing are true or not. people have a right to say whatever they want, and i've brought that upon myself. i am prepared not to dispute anything that is out there. but suffice it to say that

people are out there saying things that are -- that are -- are not true. >> what else is out there? >> i accept the responsibility for having these conversations with people who i never met, with exchanging inappropriate things. that is behind me. and we're trying to move forward. >> kelly, just a hunch. i've been covering this guy from a distance. you covered him up on the hill when he was up there. i have a sense this isn't the end of the story, that there could be more coming out here. he doesn't give us the facts up front. we have to fight for them. >> i think there has been a real pattern here of anthony weiner not wanting to be forthcoming. and at first people understand that. this stuff was really

embarrassing, and it cost him his career in congress. but now we've seen a pattern, and that is where i think it gets so much more difficult for anthony weiner, because we have these other points in this story which was supposed to be a story of a comeback and redemption and rebuilding. >> yeah. >> and when we now see him acknowledge that the glossy "people" magazine story of his family was flawed as well, that there were lies inherent in that, it's difficult. that leaves open the possibility that there will be more. we can't say for sure. he has acknowledged that some of what has come out on the internet is true, and that does lead you to wonder what else is out there. would it be anything of a different nature or would it be just more of the same? these relationships with women he says he never met, but had these ongoing exchanges with. it's the kind of thing where i think the only way he can redeem himself now is have a public burning of his computer and his blackberry or iphone to show people he is off the internet, because i think there is just a sense that this was kind of a shadow life for anthony weiner, and it is something he is having to answer for now. >> i think he had better pr than "new york times" magazine than the assad family got when they got covered by vogue. thank you, kelly o'donnell. thank you, joan walsh, and thank

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anthony weiner's wife huma abedin has been a constant presence in his campaign for mayor. so far today she was beside him today at a press conference, the first time ever she spoke at a press conference where weiner admitted right out front tonight where he was sending sexually explicit nude frontal photos of himself right up through last summer, well past his resignation and humiliation of two years ago. his wife read from a prepared statement as he did. here it is. >> our marriage, like many others, has had its up and its downs. it took a lot of work and a whole lot of therapy to get to a place where i could forgive

anthony. it was not an easy choice in any way. but i made the decision that it was worth staying in this marriage. that was a decision i made for me, for our son, and for our family. i didn't know how it would work out. but i did know that i wanted to give it a try. anthony's made some horrible mistakes. both before he resigned from congress and after. but i do very strongly believe that that is between us and our marriage. >> well, eliza shapiro is with the daily beast and rachel smolkin. is it eliza? >> eliza. >> i'm sorry. let me go to eliza.

i think there are two or maybe a combination. was she doing that because she shares the same ambition that the guy who got in trouble here once again admitted he is in trouble, or is it that she just supports whatever bad news comes with the marriage, for better or for worse? >> well, chris, thanks for having me. i think it's a combination of the two. i think you know, she said i love him, i forgave him, i believe in him, and i think there must be some truth to that before the whole scandal broke, they seemed like this perfectly happy sort of political wonder duo. i think she wants him to be mayor because she believes in him. but i also think she wants him to be mayor because, you know, her family has a lot of work to do from, you know, catching up from the scandal. and, you know, being the first lady of new york city might be better for her than being the disgraced wife of -- the wife of this disgraced politician who has embarrassed her now time and time again.

so i think it's really a combination of the two there. >> rachel, i thought from the beginning that his run for mayor, and i was underestimating its potential success up until today, because i thought he wanted to bathe in public attention so that when he came out of the race maybe in second, a good strong second or even a strong third, he would be back in the political game. people would put behind him all the mess of his exposure because of the sexting, and he would be back in business again, even if he came in second or third. just that public exposure. now i begin to think it's all part of his exhibitionism, the running for office, the constant pr about himself, the naked pictures and sending them out to total strangers. i'm not a psychiatrist. but i think we need one here to understand this character. your thoughts. >> you made a great point earlier, chris. you said we have to fight for every nugget. and it does have a little bit of a feel of being almost a game here. he made a point of saying, well, i thought some of this would come out earlier. i was kind of surprised it didn't.

i don't want to say he was enjoying the moment, but there was that aspect of the gamesmanship. it's not the way you would expect or that a political strategist would advise a candidate to go about this. if you have other behavior or behavior that continued after your resignation for congress, you would think you would want to come clean with all that at the beginning. so that anything that is out there you put out there, you get in front of the story yourself. that's pretty much the opposite of the way he has been attempting to go about it. >> i think the old rule, i wrote about it 27 years ago is hang a lantern on your problem. but his problem is so big, i wouldn't hang a lantern on that baby. >> you would need a big lantern. >> let's take a look at the weiner of timeline of rolling disclosures. may 27th of 2011 is when he accidentally posted inappropriate, nicely put, photo of himself on his twitter account. it's a message that is intended for a 21-year-old female college student in seattle. he deletes it and claims his twitter account was hacked. on june 1st, he said he couldn't tell for sure if the pictures leaked online were him.

and this is weiner speaking to our own reporter, luke russert that very day. let's listen to this give and take. >> let's make it very clear. the implication here is that somehow i did something wrong to someone else. i was the victim of a prank, okay. i was the victim of a prank here. and the fact of the matter is that that's the bottom line here. the idea that we've entered this alice and wonderland world that after i get -- i become the victim of a prank, people who follow me and support me should be harassed and we should have four days of reporting about the prank. i'm not sure that there is anything -- anything more here than just a little bit of silliness. and i'm going to try to brush it off my shoulder. >> so the reporters are the problem, according to him, by talking about something he was hiding. well, back to the timeline, june 10th of 2011. he acknowledged he did engage as he put it again some inappropriate changes. but it wasn't until june 16th, more than two week after the first incident, he finally announces his resignation from the u.s. congress. that leads us to today where he

came clean to a new round of inappropriate conversation and sexting he had conducted after his resignation. let me go back to eliza. his statement today, that first sort of finger waving away, like this timeline business, as if it wasn't important to reporters. every one of our producers to ep on down, everybody said the key question the reporters had to ask in new york tonight was did he do this after all the public embarrassment? and if he did, that would suggest a far graver problem than a guy caught doing something wrong if a guy goes back and does it all over again. and now we find that doing it all over again all the way up until this summer at least of 2012. but i'm guessing we're going to hear it's more recent than that. >> right, exactly, chris. it's just remarkable. the prevailing question all day was when did this happen. you know, he certainly didn't deny that it happened after his resignation from congress. and then he basically, you know,

confirmed during the press conference that it was 14 months after he resigned from congress in disgrace. so, i mean, the prevailing question now that we know it was 14 months later is, you know, can this guy stop lying? is he -- he has a compulsion issue. what will make him stop doing these horrifically embarrassing, lewd, gross things. i mean, the question is when you're thinking about who is going to run your city, is this guy, can we trust him? and he sort of keeps proving that, you know, he lied after he was caught. he lied for weeks after he was caught. he lied again today. so it's sort of the prevailing question is now when is he going to stop lying, and why can't he seem to stop lying in the first place. >> here is my suspicion, everybody, eliza and rachel, i think nobody is enjoying this more than anthony weiner. i think he loves this focus on him tonight. he is going through a joyous experience tonight. it may be hell to pay for his spouse, huma abedin, but i think he is loving this thing in the weirdest way. as weird as richard nixon loved

his resignation speech. because for one moment in american history and in the media tonight, it's all about anthony, the guy who loves to be an exhibitionist. you can't get a bigger stage than we're giving him. he is weird. thank you, rachel. >> it was remarkable how calm he seemed at the press conference today. >> calm, it was zen-like. he was loving it. >> exactly. and huma looked like she was on the verge of tears, but anthony was just, you know, there talking. >> nirvana. >> it was pretty jarring. >> all those cameras focused on him. how will republicans use this against democrats? my fear all along, this is going to be a perfect poster boy if this guy even comes close to being mayor of our greatest city, and it is our greatest city. and rudy did a great job cleaning up, and certainly mike bloomberg has done a fabulous job. why do you want to mess it up now, new york? this is "hardball," the place for politics.

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the senate certainly can bring about a censure resolution, and it's a slap on the wrist.

you're a naughty boy, bill clinton. the majority of american people already know that bill clinton is a bad boy, a naughty boy. i'm going to speak out for the citizens of my state who in the majority probably think bill clinton is a nasty, naughty bad boy. >> how many syllables in boy. that was former senator larry craig chastising bill clinton on nbc's "meet the press" before he got in trouble in 1999, years before he himself was disgraced in a bathroom sex scandal. you can bet republicans have plenty to say about anthony weiner should he win. we've seen the movie before. if weiner wins the mayor's race, republicans will seize on that opportunity to make him the poster boy for everything they don't like about the democratic party. they'll tag every democratic candidate across the country with his behavior and values. joining me is zeke miller of

time and jim warren. i lived through all these examples. they didn't like tip o'neill, ted kennedy, they don't like nancy pelosi. they find somebody usually from the coast and they seize upon some sort of left wing imagery or something they don't like. maybe it's just big city behavior. but they're going to have a weanie roast with this guy. this guy represents everything they want to run against, indecency, overexposure, the whole routine, and dishonesty. >> well, certainly. this has been both parties do this. democrats are doing it to mark sanford in south carolina when he was running in the special there a few months ago, and he is in congress right now. if anthony weiner can somehow make it through, be the likely runoff and in the primary and then win the general in november, i mean, this is something republicans are going to hold over democrats for months, maybe even years while he is in office. and anyone whoever goes to new york city, there will be a research document, if there is

ever a photo with maybe the president and anthony weiner, there will be a press release from the rnc. >> do you think it's going to be welcome to new york city as you walk up the steps of penn station as you arrive at la guardia or jfk, la guardia especially, a big sign, welcome to new york city, anthony weiner. >> i think republicans might pay for that. >> what a card. jim warren, where are you on this now? you spoke to us a while back. have you reconsidered? the question is how is it going to be used politically. i think republicans are drooling over this possibility that he wins the mayor's race. >> yeah, but there is no republican who is going to beat whoever comes out of a democratic primary. i think an interesting question is -- >> well, then he is going to be mayor, which is better for the republicans. >> no. let's see if he can get past particularly quinn in a primary. how does she play that, a female, who has not been beneficiary to this point of any gender gap, is stunning to me. weiner up to this point has led when it comes to women. i assume you might suggest if you're quinn just shut up about this, perhaps maybe make some sympathetic pro forma remarks about your thoughts are with the wife and leave it at that and

see what happens, and hope that this absolutely, this stunning lack of discipline, this stunning dishonesty actually accelerates to a far greater extent than it has so far. >> yeah. >> a negative image of the guy. remember, this is a state where 50 darn years ago, remember 50 years ago, nelson rockefeller was ultimately knocked out of the box for the presidential nomination of the republican party. why? because he married a divorced woman. >> and she left her four kids to the husband and walked away from her family. mary murphy. that's what hurt. >> and three days before the all important california presidential primary against goldwater, he was leading. in some cases he was leading by double-digits. she bears him a child threes before, he goes down the tubes. 50 years later, the notion that we have a guy still in the running for a major job after all this is quite remarkable. he has obviously made the decision, maybe it was this morning with the wife that we're going to, quote, tough this out. i think that's sort of a new sense of political real politicking. we're going to tough this out and people will somehow be drawn to us.

>> let me tell you what is weird about this. we're very broad minded. saying you're gay, it could be a negative or plus depending where you run. i don't think it's a negative anymore in lots of part country. when you get into a situation where somebody is doing something so bizarre, which is sending out frontal nudity pictures of yourself, at his age, married guy, why would he do it? i mean, that's the question you have to ask. not naughty boy. but we don't know what it is. is it naughty?

did you hear it finally happened? kate middleton gave birth to a baby boy. that's right. kate middleton went into lane their morning in london when the rest of the royal family heard that, they were like oh my god, what's labor? you have to work? >> that was jimmy fallon last night. we saw the baby for the first time today. but of course the birth of the new royal heir was major fodder for late-night comedians. take a look at how the daily show's john oliver, a british transplant himself, reacted to the news. >> oh my god oh my god oh my god!

oh my god oh my god oh my god! oh my god oh my god, yes, yes, yes! a son, a son. you mean a king! only kneel to the one true king. let me just give you a little taste of what is currently out there. >> this is how brilliant a royal kate is. there are women throughout british royal family history that have panicked over not being able to deliver a boy. and here we are, kate did it first time. >> what? what? you are aware that she is married to prince william and not cal drogo. what would your response have been had it been a girl? damnation upon your cursed womb, catherine? burn the princess! she has produced a baby of the weaker sex is. burn them both, burn them! >> only he can get away with this, by the way.

and by the way, again, with all due respect to king henry the viii, the sex of the baby comes from the father, not the mother. you'll never forget who showed up this weekend at the pop culture confab in san diego known as comic-con. it is popular with sci-fi and super hero aficionados. it often attracts hollywood actors and comic book writers to build buzz. among the crowd john lewis. he certainly stood out. the civil rights pioneer was there to sell his graphic marvel march, which con calls his experiences battling racism in the south during the civil rights era. so why did congressman lewis choose comic-con? >> i wanted to share this story with another generation, young people, with children, with teachers, to show that through peaceful nonviolent action, we can change america and in changing america, we can change the world.

>> nevertheless, lewis admitted the convention was different for him. he told "the washington post," quote, i have never witnessed anything like it. hundreds of thousands of people dressed in so many different ways. they looked like people from another planet or from outer space. lewis didn't don a costume of his own like a cape. but as one participant told roll role call and said it well, this is a real life super hero. >> remember christine o'donnell? >> i'm not a witch. >> she may not be that, but she seems to be a continuing curse for the republican party itself. after crashing and burning back in 2010, o'donnell is now considering, yes, another run for the u.s. senate. according to the news journal up in wilmington. any way, o'donnell today confirmed via twitter she was at least contemplating a 2014 matchup against u.s. senator chris coons. there are many decisions to run in 2014. number one is my parents' health. o'donnell's potential run isn't exactly being greeted by

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we're back. in london today, we got a first look at the most famous newborn baby on earth. as william and kate introduced their still unnamed prince to the public world. let's take a look. [ cheers ] >> well, the parents, of course, also spoke to reporters outside the hospital. >> he's got a good pair of lungs, that's for sure. he's a big boy. he's quite heavy, but we're still working on a name. so we'll have that as soon as we can. it's the first time we've seen him really, so having a proper chance to catch up.

>> i think any parent, i think, probably knows what this feeling feels like. >> very special. i'll remind him of his tininess when he's a bit older. hopefully hospital and you guys can go back to normal now and we can look after him. >> how much hair? >> he's got way more than me. thank god. >> that young woman there gave birth, natural birth to a child just yesterday. i think she looks already breezy from the experience. something happened after this. look at it. there they are. by the standards of royalty, prince william carried his own son, the new one, strapped him in the back, drove his family home. only difference was they were heading to a castle. before leaving the hospital, his royal highness, prince of cambridge, received a visit from the middletons. regular folk. that was followed a short time later with a visit from prince charles. i'm sure that is protocol. and wife, camilla. the first-time grandfather said the boy was marvelous.

we're joined by the "washington post's" autumn brewington. thank you for joining us again. the choreography of this thing, the brits do this so well. even the new kids. >> they do. >> every time you see will, you see diana. >> yes. and he looks so much like her, but this was, you know, he practiced putting that car seat in. he practiced is he could do if in front of the press. >> it's not a natural thing. no, my son has a kid now, my daughter-in-law has a young baby. very politically correct to use the car seat. no royal prerogatives there. >> no driving off just holding -- >> simon marks, thanks for joining us again. the whole thing about the way they do this in britain, is there a protocol person who says they'll go outside, stand in front of the crowd, we'll have the crowd waiting for you, wave to them naturally then drive off like after their wedding. they drove off in a car after that. >> well, i think, chris, there

is a protocol, but frankly they're rewriting it. i mean, the real takeaway of those images today was this was william and kate once again sort of modernizing the royal family. the way in which they lingered and talked to reporters. the very, from a british perspective, touching imagery of william putting that car seat, and it wasn't a particularly regal car seat. it was an off the shelf car seat, into back of the car. then driving the newborn away, himself. i mean, all of that, very different than what we saw just a few years ago when william, himself, was born, and prince charles and princess diana emerged down the steps to cameras then. that was a much more stilted appearance compared to this. i think it underscores the fact you have a new, younger generation of british royals preparing to take the family into the next generation. >> are they really, i know there's a rule you can't touch the queen, physically never touch her. don't shake her hand, don't do anything. i think michelle obama did shake her hand, do something to her.

are they as nice as they seem are or there secretly snotty? >> i used to cover the royal family in the day when i was working as a reporter in the uk. you know, it depends on the member of the royal family that you're sent out to cover. the sense is this younger generation, prince william, prince harry, who, of course, sometimes makes headlines for the wrong reasons, but has been making them for more of the right reasons of late. the duchess of cambridge, kate middleton and now, of course, this new little lad. i mean, the sense is this is a more approachable, modern version of the royal family. still very focused on british tradition. i mean, clearly, far more global interest in these royals than there was, for example, in the coronation over the weekend of a new king of belgium. >> i think that's not a tough competition. anyway, across the pond here in the u.s., the birth of britain's newest royal, heir, of course, in this case, earned a lot of

attention. first lady michelle obama tweeted "congratulations to the duke and duchess of cambridge on the birth of their son. being a parent is the best job of all." former secretary of state hillary clinton wrote on twitter "congratulations from across the pond." she uses the phrase, too. "wishing you a bit of luck and a bit of advice, it takes a royal village." a self-acclimation there. today jay carney was asked about a gift for the baby. >> i have no new information about potential gifts. i do like to -- i would like to say that i think james would be an excellent choice in name. just a thought. >> who am i to say? this is -- are you surprised that the caliber of interest in this, in this country? >> no. no. this is -- we love celebrity,

and the monarchy, you know, the british royal family, this is the purest form of celebrity. >> thank you so much. thanks for coming in. simon marks, thank you, sir. when we return, let me finish from what we heard today from anthony weiner, speaking from the sublime to the ridiculous. this is "hardball." the place for politics.

let me finish tonight with this. new york city, gotham of batman theme, met top list of the superman saga, offered the protection of a comic book figure to outmatch them all. i don't know what led some new

yorkers to state a preference for mr. weiner in the past. i can't or won't discern why he wanted them to be their city's representative to the world, this fellow who wants most of all to expose himself. today we learned man who sexted his way to resignation from congress and political banishment continued with the practice through last summer sending out indecent pictures of himself to whomever in this weird desire to reach out and touch someone. his behavior, i'm disturbed to say, represents what the late great senator from new york, daniel patrick monaghan, he from hell's kitchen, called defining deviency down. who the hell knows who drives this guy. this is not a private matter. it is not the act of love between consenting adults. it's something along the lines of streaking. in this case, digital streaking. i can't condemn behavior. the guy must be out of his own

control, but i dare to condemn the voter who thinks him a fit representative of this country's greatest city. new york, new york. the town so nice they named it twice. i believe is too nice for this. and that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. good evening, from new york. i'm chris hayes. tonight on "all in" our national conversation on race, another county is heard from. bill o'reilly delivers the angry white man position, and it is a rant that requires a response. that is coming up. also tonight, i'll tell you how every time you buy a can of soda, you're helping make the big banks even bigger. senator sherrod brown is my guest on this absolutely crazy story. but we begin tonight and,