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what is new york thinking? ann anthony weiner, aka carlos danger found himself in front of cameras yesterday after the dirty.comhad insisted he turn a new page. the timing wasn't important. >> some have asked the question where does this fit in some time line some time line of continuum of the resignation some of these things happened before my resignation some of them happened after. there was no question that what i did was wrong. this is behind me and i have apologized. i'm responsible for this behavior that led us to be in this place. >> things are very different
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fremt. yesterday the daily news and the "new york times" and several of his rivals were not calling for him to leave the race are. today they are. as for her, she is now a willing actor in the drama. weiner had to lean on her more than what either wants. beyond sticking up for her husband she argued that this was a private matter. >> he has made some pour ribl mistakes both before he resigned from congress and after. but i do very strongly believe that is between us and our marriage. >> but is it? the "new york times" editorial board disagreed. in an essay entitled "the good wife" that runs next month, she
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writes of her husband: he is now something else, a better man. joining me today special co correspondent for the "daily beast". white house core spnd ent mresp washington post columnist, michael, a better man what? can he stay in this race? >> yeah, i guess he probably can. i think the editors of "harper's bazaar" are probably scrambling. and then the other thing, if they are bad that is one bad sign for him. the other factor is if people call them and say they are done, i'm not giving you money. the campaign finance law which
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matches small koptbutions makes it important. he may be able to sidestep that one. >> let's speak of those city elders. the new york daily news. they write he is not fit to lead america's premier city lacking the discipline that new york deserves. he is a man whose word is accepted less than that of a nameless faceless social worker, he cannot be mayor. does that send them stampeding to the door? >> they know that is somewhat disingenuous. >> every good editor would want this man in city hall. but, it does create an atmosphere of gee, what is with
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this guy and you have to look at the question of ver rasity. he certainly gave everyone the impression that he was dealing with his problem he has and now we see that he was pt dealing with it then. why should we believe he is dealing with it now. he is still sending pictures of his private parts to random women? >> the timeline matters a lot. here is a guy who said he was on the course to -- and throughout all of this was still sexting with anonymous bloggers. i want to ask you about the question, we know that she comes from the dynasty of the clintons. we have not heard that they were great supporters of him. but what did you make of her presence of the press ava
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availability yesterday? >> what an awkward display that was. it was hard to be caught up in the human drama. i thought if hepehepers veers, imagine if he runs closer to the 2016 race. imagine her position on the national stage. right now this is a mayor's race and it is almost impossible to imagine this unfolding in the campaign. >> you think this is a reminder of the linkage of the scandals things that the clintons would not want to be reminded of. you can't look away from this aspect of it. it is about that in 2016 and what the democrats want their message to be. the other issue with anthony weiner and something that his
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rivals have brought up. who he is independent of these scandals and who he is as a politician. weiner has never been good at the serious stuff. he got as far as he did because he was good at everybody else. people point to the similartilities to this. but there are more differences. bill clinton was the president of the united states. he had a presidency to protect. anthony weiner doesn't have anything like that. i want to return to juma for a second. the first question he was asked was when did your wife learn of
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thighs allegati these allegations he said she has known of these all along. she was sitting there saying we can brush over this. >> that is the move that we went into this together and thought okay this is stuff that we can overcome and will not be an issue of trust. veracity the psychological implications that keeps needing to sext people over and over again and this would be no big deal for a city like new york. >> and to say this is a private matter. we are private for those few minutes and it was. it is not a private matter. the think about that, there were times when she was speaking and you look at her and it was just painful. you couldn't look away. but it was painful. she seemed so pained that it is hard to imagine this going forward. i think it probably will go
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forward. i don't think he is going to drop out of the race. but it is going to be a compelling awful thing to watch. >> not awful if you are a tabloid newspaper man or woman. the new yorker amy davidson writes about her. when the scandal broke she was pregnant her choice to stay with h him was hers. this is the good political wife. maybe abedin was brave but to what end? i'm going to put our marriage lewd behavior on display and not feel like we need to answer for that. and he is still as qualified as
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ever to be the mayor. >> she didn't do that. and so, i think that is the all important context. but this is not her struggle to overcome. don't you think she is implicated in all of this? >> she is not used to doing press conferences. she is someone who is in a large part is seen as a very dependable smart, capable young woman and this is her for ray into the national stage. >> this has prompted this whole thing to say maybe she should be the one running. >> this is his problem and he created it. she is his wife and her choices were do i kill his candidacy on tv or do i help him stand on his side? >> there were one that is would have chosen -- you know.
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on some level though, it seems to me that it has to be blind love. this is a woman who has spent time around bill clinton who has his problems. we know. who lied about sex, who was an adull tress. he is a substantial person. he is the real deal. anthony weiner i don't think you put in the same category. she must really love the guy. i think it is a little bit iffy to stay it is because she is blinded by love. there was clearly some calculation here. i'm going to safe my marriage by standing with him. if i had just had a newborn maybe oning for the mayorship is
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not the way to focus on the marriage and your newborn child. >> there is that. >> i would go along with you on that one. >> it seems like maybe group therapy. >> and put yourself in the position of learning a few months ago or a year ago that he was doing this again after he caused a national worldwide practically scandal and you learned that he did it again? and you want him to be the mayor still? >> this is the age of social networking. and it is hard to, it wouldn't have been like this. it would have been different. >> well, i would say and part of the weirdness of this, i'm not excusing the men and women in elected office. something about the sexting and the lack of the car nal
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knowledge, makes it weird and my colleague and someone i look up to the great chris matthews said it is just weird. it is the sort of profile of a man who can't stop doing this speaks to i don't know a psychological break of disturbance. >> i'm sure there is a definition for it. and this is a new expression for it. maybe it is narcicism. >> do you think i can go out on that limb and say that? >> and so this is a way to express that, that didn't exist before and it is in a creepy way and also aggressive and in visive given that it is random. creepy and running for mayor.
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from the people who brought america elect tri fied fences and al gator filled moats and continued to use the phrase anchor baby on the floor of
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congress. the pioneers of prejudice have added another chapter to their musings on immigration. this time steve king. he used his own brand of fuzzy math to claim that 99% of children brought to america are br drug smugglers. >> they weigh 130 pounds and have calves the size of cantaloupes because they are hauling -- across the desert. >> when the rnc's party autopsy called for republican ares to demonstrate to his panics to quote we care about them, that comment was directed at you,
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steve king. mi hispanic americans remain deeply skeptical about the gop. they were asked about a series of hostile comments are representative of the house gop. 2/3 of respondents say that the attitude represents many in congress. joining us now from johnston, iowa is the man who is challenging steve king, democratic candidate for congress, jim mauer. >> thank you for having me on. >> my dad is a hawkeye and i have a lot of respect for people in iowa. and i say how has this man been elected six times? what is going on in iowa and is
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this type of commentary acceptable to the people there? >> just like the people said yesterday, his comments are wrong and they do not represent the views of the people in iowa and in the #4th district. they don't get us closer to getting the job done in washington on the problems such as immigration. >> if you look at the demographics of how the population is changing. the population had nearly doubled. this is no excuse for this. but when we talk about why people are motivated to speak like this, it would seem like those shifts are one reason behind it. i wonder what you think of that. well, again, i think steve
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king's comments are wrong. but i think that steve king is afraid of the future. i think he wants way w s iowans afraid of the future. my experience serving in iraq and growing up in iowa we don't need to be afraid. we had a ceremony for him in iraq. he was serving our country before becoming a citizen. every time he says wrong things like this. this is what i think of. >> it misrepresents iowa. >> when we are talking about the dreamers, and i want to open up this panel here. >> if we are talking about the dream act, this is not a provision of amnesty for drug mules.
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fraud lying which would also lead to the issue of illegal immigration. it would lead to the route of this. >> he's also completely torpedoing the republican strategy for getting back into the good graces of latino voters who voted against mitt romney of 71%. the idea of house republicans seem to have is not to do immigration reform. they want to do little steps that make it looks like they are
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not hostile to that. the dream act is one of them. eric cantor is trying to get the dream act crafted through the house. this is something that the party is supposed to want to do. to blit ra oh bl obliterate the notion is to question it. you have to want to embark on this process. the hope that the loudest elements of the house caucus could keep their lips sealed shut. that they could move forward and somehow they would make inroads with the hispanic community. whatever they are doing is undermined by the commentary and saying that the dreamers are
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drug mules. it is deeply racist by what he is saying. when you are talking about children who are here and contributing here with american society. >> it is unbelievable and they are not really aware of this. the hispanic media is paying so much attention to this. i guess they don't even though that. they don't talk to these people. they aren't part of their conception of what america is. they are this group of people over here. they are not people they know. they are people that they are trying to curry favor with. that is the good part. >> and some ways those sort of band-aid statements to not go forward on reform. i understand the speaker is trying to take a stab at
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respinning this and acknowledging that hate filled speech is not welcome. but nobody is listening to the party on this. they don't care about party unit and moving forward. they care about letting elected from the right. >> bloomberg had an interesting story about a farmer in texas who is lobbying ining republic in the house to try to get them to do something about immigration. so, it is a more nuance and divided party than the commentary would suggest certainly and you no, you can argue that john baynor and eric can tore want to pull off a dream act, but, for a lot of immigrants, the dream act would
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be a good accomplishment. >> jim, i have to ask you, what is your position on the dream act? do you think there should be a path to citizenship? >> i think it is important that we address this issue. it is a national security issue. i think what we need to do is secure the border and restore the rule of law and i think that we need to have a process for the 11 million people that are here and they are in invested in this country and we need to bring them back into the fold and they are a huge piece of the economy. something needs to be done. that is why when steve king does these things and says these things it is unproductive and it is bad for iowa and bad for america. >> that would be a yes on the path for citizenship?
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>> it need to happen in a way where these people admit that they have done something that is illegal and wrong. they need to be brought into the fold and they need to pay the fine and that is a process that ensures that the people that are here in this country are invested and if they do those things and show they are committed in the country like serving in the military, yes, there is a pathway there for them to become citizens and produce in our economy. >> steve king may have been re-elected six times, but he only one iowa's 4th district by 8% in 2012. so there is a window. iowa's 4th district. thank you for your time. >> thank you alex. coming up. we will talk with drummer, band
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you may know him by a single name and recognize him by his
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signature afro and pick. ameer thompson is a cultural icon. talented scholar. the world acrossing to kreslove. the son of a father who sang duwop. he describes the founding of the roots and their rise to fame and discusses the birth of their rise to fame. he says it still clashed against the realities of growing up in america.
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joining us live is now ameer thompson. >> it is a long time coming. >> i know. >> let the people know. i have been begging for this. >> i know, you got your wish. >> she fooled me, i thought that this was a lun of date and we are sharing water. >> it is great to have you on the program i guess i should drink to this. >> the first is the idea. that quote was amazing from a
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book filled with amazing anecdotes. and the idea of being both inside and outside and how that influenced your music career. and the notion of thinking outside and not being part of anyone specific subgroup. how much did that influence you? >> i guess you could say that sort of creates the life that i led. we have kind of been outside of many circles. the roots are like the root off the red nosed reindeer of hip-hop. we got respect now but back then there were a lot of reindeers not letting us play those games.
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it's weird. you just learn to survive it and how we managed to survive for 20 years, literally and kree atively in the age of celebrity you take a figure like that, i mean, those are two well respected craftsmen of their art. people aren't talking about the way that he had his cadence or his flow. they are talking about is he pregnant again? it is about the celebrity of it. the fact that the roots have managed to survive and in a culture that is based on the history of criminology or the kind of do or die situation. we didn't have that growing up.
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most of us were middle class college educated middle class. i don't know. it was a miracle. there aren't any led zeppelin tales. >> the joshua tree and trying to hide your beach boys collection. i want to talk about that collection. you have an in sane record collection. >> i'm proud of it. >> you are teaching at nyu. beyond many other things and like that curiosity to listen to not only to that, but the eagles and the beach boys but embrace it. is that a testament to the environment to which you grew up? >> i'm probably the only person that doesn't find it that
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unusual. there are producers that came up in hip-hop. if you listen to dela souls music or the beastie boys. when i first got it. i instantly recognized. i played like name that tune. these drums come from the eagles and that is david bowie and this is james brown. it became a spot your father's record collection. and most producers who have sample based work. they grew to love the records that they collect. most are searching for that perfect 8 bar loop.
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i had those records long before. >> my father was easy listening. he likes nat king coal and my mom liked miles davis and my sister was into a lot of am rock. that is how i knew about zeppelin. that is like the perfect storm. that is great for a producer. that is why i'm obsessed. anyone who has a new baby. i make their kids ipods. >> that is amazing. >> do you remember the song? >> i put about 32,000 songs on there. there is captain bfart. >> all babies need bfart. we are talking about others and
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race and it is part of your story and it is part of the post that you wrote after the verdict came down in the trial. i don't know how to not internal ice the message this trayvon case. so i guess i'm struggling to get one per seexcept of this feelin left. at the end of the day i'm still human right? >> that to me is a powerful indictment of american society that you have to protect yourself from the constant battery of inhuman forces that would let me think less of yourself. >> do you think in the age of this is supposed to be post racial mercury haamerica, i hav both campaigns and throughout life i thought that i had to
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protect myself with these layers to not take it so personal. and i guess with the trayvon verdict, we were in amsterdam and i was on stage and i saw three friends he got off. i was like what are you saying? >> i looked at my phone. that was the one time i walked away from a gig. i cut my set short. it was the straw that broke the camel's back. at the end of the day, people don't necessarily, you know hip popp hoppers are supposed to be one dimensional. not saying people see me as the guy in that rap group. rap music has over taken black culture and people tend to see a lot of us as one dimensional without feelings and i don't
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know, i internalize it. i felt like i was him and watching my own trial and this was the america, this is the message that america sent. >> two young black men and women everywhere. the emotion and feeling. you are wearing your heart on your sleeve. i'm serious. the impact to be told your life isn't worth anything. it is hard to believe we are in that place in america. we have to wrap it up soon. in terms of the facebook message that you wrote. the idea that you have had in elevators where women have not wanted to tell you what floor you are going to. your questness is almost like camouflage for your blackness so you don't have to confront the
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racism they may feel. i had to use this book. i got pulled over. he didn't explain why. but, i had to use my book to prove that i was me. hoping that you know, that is just this sufficient happens all the time. people know that i'm a serial tweeter. i could make it full of that but i choose not to. i have to remind people that we are human beings as well. >> i have used this to get out of law enforcement situations to say that i know you. the book is "mo metta blues". >> i made it. my friend is happy right now. the viewi ining public is happy right now. coming up. president obama is going back to where it all began. here is a live look.
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in an attempt to steer the national conversation away from scandal and gridlock and to words job creation and the middle class he will deliver a speech to illinois and the nation's economy. they say the hope the speech will achieve three goals. republicans not to create a fresh cries sis in the fall. at an event on monday, the president gave a flatteri ining preview on his own speech. here is the thing, it will be a pretty good speech. but, as we learned, i have given pretty good speeches before and then things still get stuck here in washington which is why i'm going to need your help. joining us now from washington.
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esra great to see you. >> good afternoon. the president is expected to give a pretty good speech. the economy are going to be a considerable part of it. i want to talk to you about the economy. we rarely get a good picture of what is going on. unemployment is at 7.6%. but there are still 11.8 million americans unemployed and 4.3 million americans have been unemployed. you talked about those who are leaving the workforce and the implications there as far as the unemployment rate. walk us through that if you will. what he is talking about in that column or in that graph, there is a catch. when we say who is unemployed. if you don't have work, but you
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are whaactively looking for wor. if you stop looking for work. if you say it is done and i can't find anything. you are no longer unemployed. if you adjust for that. nobody had moved to no longer being in the labor force and you don't see the drop. you see rates that are a couple of points higher. some people stop looking for work because they are getting older. some of that is going to happen no matter what the economy looks like. some of that is the result of a bad economy. i do think it is fair to say that the economy is somewhat worse. some of the drop down to the mid 7s is coming from people not getting jobs but people getting depressed and stopping looking for jobs. >> what is interesting, if we
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are talking about a focus on job creation, the white house is attempting a pivot today. the republicans saying welcome to the conversation this year speeches aren't going to change anybody's minds. have the republican ares been focused on jobs that they have been pushing. it seems counter to what ben bernanke seem to be saying. he was a george w. bush appointee. he will come to congress every couple of months and say guys you have got to do something here. you have to start passing some tax cuts and investing in, infrastructure. he is making money cheap to borrow. long-term interest rates are
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literally negative if you adjust for inflation. so no. baynor, but i think it simimportant not to get overlyi. it is true that none of this will go anywhere. there is going to be a set of arguments laid out. and it is worth stopping and stepping back. i do think these will be different arguments. we can make sense about the way they go forward. >> you know, i think esra raises a fair point. the rhetoric is just that. but these are two different visions for the country. i think there has been much talk about the white house getting away from what has happened in the last couple of months and the economy. the white house has gotten no
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credit for economic recovery that has happened. to remind everyone at home. the last six months of the bush administration we lost average job loss was 673,000 jobs a month. it surprises me that the white house has not sort of done a better job. they could have t-shirts on job recovery or economic recovery. but it is not the story line. >> maybe they do. >> there is an important date coming up this september of 2013. the five year anniversary of the collapse that ushered in that changed the dynamics of his race. and became his cross to bear.
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he is trying to begin the conversation by september and generations to come people will say hey, this guy actually deserves credit for turning things around what you just said. he wants that credit and wants if he can't get policy passed to define it. >> and billing that narrative and building that is an important part. i agree with you. there is a record there that they should and probably will talk about a whole lot. i wanted to go back to the unemployment question. if it is true that they are going to have fairly throw growth for the next while. superintendant isn't it good that baby boomers -- how are young people ever going to find jobs? i'm serious about that. >> that is a question that we will determine the answer to in
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the coming months and years. we have to leave it there. the washington post thank you so much for your expertise. michael, he is in there. michael and ew gene i don't know who the other michael is. that is all for now. you can find us on facebook.com. we will have the president's remarks coming up next. dy in mon tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief for many with arthritis pain and inflammation. plus, in clinical studies, celebrex is proven to improve daily physical function so moving is easier. celebrex can be taken with or without food. and it's not a narcotic. you and your doctor should balance the benefits
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remarks live. joining me here in new york. kristen welker. first to you chuck, the president hitting this restart button, trying to as we are heading into the august recess. really turned off by washington and by congress. when you see the poll, we see you cover that president and it has done this. when the you know what it hits the fan. when you are getting dragged down into the muck, what do presidents do? they bail. they go out into the