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egg. yes, these are the divergent views, as the president wraps up a two-day three-city speaking tour, delivering an impassioned speech in jacksonville just a short time ago. let's get more americans back on the job that will be good for home ownership. that will be good for education. that is the smart thing to do. let's get past politics and do it. the president who's traveled from illinois the midwest, has used plain and direct language. he wants the sideshow in want to cease, and he wants good job and a better bargain. he even invoked abraham linking who still managed to focus on what makes a country strong.

yet dplt middle he wail still thinking how do we build that railroad. how do we widen our canals and ports? there are some things we can only do together. >> rebuilding our infrastructure is only one of them. >> he's not only advancing his agenda, just over 1200 days. he's also preparing for major budget fights that have dogged his tenure. >> i'm not going to let gridlock or inaction or indifference to the plight of families get in the way of this country. where i can act on my own, i'm going to act on my own. i'm not going to wait for congress. >> even before the president had

climbed the stage, speaker boehner tonight to his regular thursday press conference waving his usual tired mix of tax cuts and reduced government, but then in a sudden moment of originality, appeared to enter the kitchen for today's attack on the president. >> the speech turned out to be all sizzle, no steak. assuming there is any sizzle left. let's go right to the white house. kristin, three xhin speeching this week, with possibly more in the months to come. you have with the president yesterday. is this a final attempt by him to focus the nails on -- particularly in the light of gridlock in washington?

>> martin, absolutely. i think that's a huge part of it. it will show you that jobs are still the number one issue for most americans. i think president obama returning to this topic. which we have seen him talk about three times so far this week alone. i think he's tried to sift -- dominated the discussion here, and then i think there's another strategy which you touched on. he's also teeing up some of the budget battles that are on the highsen, coming this fall. it's a strategy that's been successful in the past, going out, getting out of washington, taking his vision on the road. that's what we're going to see in the coming weeks. remember, this is a tactic he tonight -- helped him to gain the upper hand in that battle. i think he's hoping these work

around. we know he has at least another they're or four speeching about his vision. the chorus of -- suggests that they not only remain implaquable opponents, but are they really going to take the nation into another self-made crisis? >> i've been speaking to republicans on the hill action and democrats, no one has an appear tide for that, but it doesn't mean it's not going to happen. we have seen this without get very close to dangerous deadlines. a lot of people are say that it's hard to see how this gets worked out easily. republicans say they're not going to increase the debt ceiling unless it's offset with

an equal amount of cuts. the one thing that's different, martin, we're getting closer to the 2014 midterm elections. it could, but conventional wisdom is they won't go over the debt ceiling, but undoubtedly it would be another bruising battle. >> i'm sure temperature it will. thank you, kristin. michael eric dyson is a professor at georgetown. steve kornacki is on msnbc -- some are accusing him of simply repeating speeches, and that's it. do you agree what he's actually doing is just not emphasizing what he would like the agenda to be, but prepared for these

budgets battles? >> i think it certainly make sense to talk about it right now. you have the debt ceiling. buff that, though, if we could come to some kind of agreement, there's the prospect of a shutdown. if you think back two years ago to the summer of 2011, the debt ceiling and all of that. this is sounding different to me. it feels different than two years ago, and we're hearing republicans all right, republicans in the senate like john mccain. -- who are sort of saying, no, we don't want to go down this road again. obama i think is trying to capitalize on that, sort of employed that. >> john boehner has just said

he's happy to have another fight here. >> i think the game is trying to exploit the dissension and isolate boehner and worry about the pressure on them. >> professor dyson, boehner said it was an empty easter egg. today he says it's all sizzle and no steak. when is he going to come forward with something constructive for the future of this nation. >> his met 'phoric meandering, pulling a rabbit out of a has, so to speak, i think steve is right, that first you have the showdown and then the shutdown that the government could tern face if they don't finance it.

i think he's using the only ka nard that he has. if he can be isolated from the senate, if john mccain and others can talk sense into the rest of the republican fold, then he's allowed to save face, while nose his procedure and strategy will you wantly lead to a kind of compromise. okay. but professor, that's a careful declination of the political maneuverings. right. >> but since when weigh raising minimum wage a stale idea, or -- since when was rebuilding the nation's inf infrastructure tedious, tired rhetoric? when was that something we are -- >> you're right to be outrained

by that. and the nation should be outraged by that. what happened with the farm bill? when you pull away the -- this is a mean-spirited government, when it comes to the rubric of the republicans. that's why the economic populism is a fresh breath, from the odious atmosphere that's being unleashed from the republican side. i think it's a great idea for the president to go directly to the people. those poll numbers shift according to what's going on to the last two or three weeks. i think soon his message will seen him revivify and have a renascence with ordinary working-class americans.

>> steve, the president is committed to this. will it work? i want i think we can talk about where his approval reading is, but also the view that congressional -- we saw it in the nbc poll this week. 56% say they are two inflexible. that is what obama is trying to draw attention to. voters, this is your impression of republicans in congress? here's what i'm laying out. if you continue to -- it's only going to ratchet that number up and only make it easier to ice laid republicans and put pressure on them to cut some kind of a deal. >> professor michael eric dyson and steve kornacki, thank you very much. remember to watch steve every sunday and saturday morning at

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ed attorney general is not taking that decision as read. in a speech at the national urban league conference early this morning, mr. holder warned texas that he's coming for them. >> today, i am announcing that the justice department will ask a federal court in texas to

subject the state of texas to a pre-clearance regime similar to the one required by section 5 of the voting rights act. >> they're basically asking to bail in texas under the voting rights act. the burden will be high, because the panel must find instances of deliberate discrimination on the part of texas against voters. for more on the event, we turn to msnbc's craig melvin who's in philadelphia and participated in an early morning panel. thank so much, craig, for joining us. i understand you have actually spoken to the attorney general. what did he tell you about his optimism for congress reworking the preclearance formula that we know was struck down by the supreme court?

>> it was an interesting conversation. i had an opportunity to speak with hiv after this panel discussions, and he told me he's not just optimistic. he's very optimistic that congress, and as you know, congress does not have a reputation for handling big issues quickly, if at all, but he says that he thinks this will be one of these unine examples, unique cases where both sides of the aisle gets something done. he specifically noted the work of sensenbrenner, that congressman sensenbrenner, along with a handful of other congressmen seemed hellbent on getting something in the not so distant future. one of the aclu members indicated that they are working behind the scenes, not just with democrats, but with republicans as well to get some legislation in the works. that announcement that you mentioned, no one here in the national urban league was expecting that major

announcement. the attorney general addressed a crowd of about 800 or 900. when he made that announcement, thunderous applause here in the convention hall. there were a number of standing ovations as well. in the past 11 days, eric holder has addressed the 100th annual convention of delta sigma theta, a black sore errority. he was in orlando last week, and not a concerted effort to address groups that might be affected by these changes. i understand that trayvon martin's mother is also expected to speak at the national urban league tomorrow. late this afternoon, the only minority juror from the zimmerman trial, juror b-29 said in part, and i'm quoting her -- george zimmerman got away with

murder, but you can't get away from god. and at the end of the day, he's going to have to -- a lot of questions and answers that he has to deal with. craig, i wonder how much are folks talking about that verdict? >> as you might imagine, a lot of folks obviously talking about the verdict itself, the ramifications and moving forward. it came up on a panel i moderated this morning on justice right before the attorney general spoke. the news you mentioned broke a short time ago. i was having lunch with friends action and as they were thumbing through their blackberries and iphones, that was a topic of conversation. she will be part of another panel between 12:00 and 2:30 here in philadelphia. >> craig, will you about el there tomorrow to report for us again? >> reporter: i am at this point not scheduled to be here tomorrow, but as you know,

martin, those things change very quickly. i should note that -- there's a jobs forum that's about to begin here. the national urban league plans to talk about how to create jobs in this economy, and they'll also be using a lot of what the president said yesterday to start that conversation. >> craig melvin, the hardest-working man on this network, thank you. >> good to see you, martin. primary focus is in its nail, urban issues. on wednesday, the president said americans just stand by the financially struggling cities, if we are all to succeed. joining us is crystal crittendon, a may i don't recall candidate for the city of detroit. good afternoon, ma'am. >> hi, how are you today? >> great to have you with us. a federal court, as you know, on wednesday cleared the first barrier for bankruptcy

protection. do you think it's the -- >> and whether you think bankruptcy is the right path, it is the local elected officials who should be making these decisions. >> well, if not bankruptcy -- if not bankruptcy, how else does that city resolved its $20 billion debt that it's accrued. how does that get resolved without bankruptcy? >> well, i do disagree that the debt is $20 billion. every time there's a press conference or somebody mentioned a, it goes up by a billion. it was 14 when the emergency manager came here in march. we're talking about long-term death that will be paid over 30

years. there's $6 billion of long-term health care and pension costs. again that's going to be paid back over the next 30 years. it should not have been included. we are talking about -- >> is it your view, then, that the federal government should simply bail the city out? is that your view? >> no. the city would not need a bailout if it starts making the type of structural changes it needs in order to go after money that's owed to it. this city, we have some challenges and problems. we have lost population, but we have a lot of money owed to us by a lot of people. there's no concentration, no emphasis, no discussion even about anybody who owes the city of destroy attempting to start paying back some of the money they owe. we need to start collecting

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>> the circus that he has brought to the mayor's race has been a disservice to new yorkers. >> website editor suggests that there are more revelations to come. >> he did it again? >> i don't have a game plan. i'm just doing what i'm doing. >> a bit like it got caught in a waffle iron, a series of parent swatches, and that last color is called public humiliation. >> multiple women over an extended period of time. >> he writes, still holding your hair, i spread your legs, oh, okay. i lean over and -- please [ bleep ]. >> there are more than -- there are a few, i don't have a specific number. >> you grab my -- ooh, i just -- >> it's not dozens and dozens. it is 6 to 10, i suppose, but i can't tell you absolutely what

someone else is going to consider inappropriate or not. let's get rate to or panel. joins you is joy reid, managing editor of the grilgrio.com. he was leading the polls. will you please stop laughing, both of you? >> i can't help it, i'm sorry. >> these latest revelations seem to have damaged his new poll out today, puts him in second place, with 16% versus 25% for the front-runner christine quinn. so, joy, answer this question, is he finished in the may i don't recall race? i want you know what, martin? as somebody who just recently switched my voter registration to new york and -- >> from florida? >> from florida and now has to deal with this, the shame of this is we have never had a good, decent discussion over which of these candidates would be a good mayor of new york city. you have here something

ridiculous, this carlos danger utter foolishness that has taken over completely this race. i'm not 100% that impressed with the field, but now the person who could benefit it may not even be the best person themselves for the job. i think this is so stupid! it's the fact that all of these disclosures are rolling is a bigger problem than the substance of them form the fact that he didn't, when he had the chance get it all out -- >> well, he couldn't get it all out, because he did more. >> stop doing it! >> there's been some attempt to compare mr. weiner to president clinton. isn't this like comparing apples to orange, or in this case a cucumber with a turnip, because once mr. clinton had confessed, he appeared to cease and desist -- will you stop laughing? >> no, i can't stop laughing. all right. i'll answer your question this way. the presidency of the united

states is a remarkably different office than the mayorship of new york city. >> right. >> however, i also will say that i think every politician should have a personal -- a private life. the ability to have at least a decent modicum of privacy, about them, their families and their personhood. that being said. when the whole thing about bill clinton came out, i was a senate staffer. i thought as a democratic senate staffer whose boss was in leadership, i thought for the good of the party bill clinton should have stepped down at that time, and had he done that's correct al gore would have been president, we may not have had george bush to screw up the country as bad as he did. since we cannot change that, what i can tell you is this is now bigger than anthony weiner's run for office. i don't know what his policies are or how he wants to solve the stop-and-frisk, what will he do to reduce unemployment?

no one else does. why? because now his candidacy is overshadowed by his problems. when that happens, it's time to step out. it's time to step down from what he's doing and disappear into the fabric of knocks of 9 million people. if he doesn't do that, it's just going to damage him and the city of new york even more. >> can i suggest -- i make it a point to never disagree with my friend, but the difference between bill clinton and what's happening now is by the time the revelations came out, he already had a substantive record of achievement. >> and in arkansas prior to that. >> to set the precedent that you can have have a sexual related wisphunt, take down the president of the united states, when we've had plenty of presidents with indiscretions. >> truly great presidents. >> if. dr, jfk, because if the idea is that the political opposition can remove a president of the

united states, that's a big problem. we now have david vitter, whose name was in a hooker book in the united states, we had larry craig allowed to quietly resigned after the wide stance. we have now the former governor of south carolina in congress after he took public resources to fly to see his mistress. >> please, stop, there's enough. >> we have not crossed the moral rubicon. this guy -- i'm worried about his lack of record of accomplishment as a congressman. i'm worried about his substantive record, which i this i is extremely thin, and this ridiculous carlos danger thing has made it not the most important mayoral race in the country. >> jimmy. >> i concur with everything. i cannot disagree with anything joy has just said. i do believe you should have a private life, but when your private life overtakes your public life, and that is what has happened here. with bill clinton, i hate to say

it, i mean, i expect more from my politicians. they are human, they are humane, but i expect them to be better than the average man that cheats had his average wife. i expect that action and i demand that, and i want that for my political and my religious and educational leaders. when they fail to do so, then i expect them to leave the scene. that is what has not happened here. >> so final question to both of you. one-word answers from both of you. given that we know more about mr. weiner's even is than -- penis than his policies, does he stay in the race? >> no. >> not even as carlos danger. i think he'll stay in, but lose. >> thank you very much. we are very grateful. you can go off and start laughing now. coming up, speaking boehner the king slayer? are we clear? >> i want to be clear. there's no place in this debate

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the desert. he was repeatedly confronted by an interviewer, instead he took to the air waves to reiterate this is truly his stance itches yes, there's some really good kids that are a part of this. it's too into they're call in this flux we are in, but you will also be legalizing those people who are breaking our laws in a very bad way. nots just cross-ing the board. >> for more now, we're joined -- and current president and ceo of the round table. good afternoon, sir. >> are you changing the name of the show to martin danger? >> i have not. i do not engage in those activities, and i'm sure you don't, either. i'm sure you would join in the condemnation of mr. king's comments. while the party leadership seeks

to isolate him, and he's been condemned by the speaker and house majority leader, all but six republicans voted for his amendment last month, which seems to reverse a decision by the also that defers the deportation of undocumented immigrants who came here as children. do you think it's instrument while republicans don't like mr. king's language, they actually do like hi policies? >> first of all, i do concur with the speaker that congressman king's reference were offensive and wrong, and misguided, and inappropriate, but we shouldn't let that distract from the more important debate, and the need that is immigration reform for our nation. the proof will be in the putting to your question, and that's will the republican party if not in favor of the senate biggs be able to put together a bill or proposals that address the issue and advance it. the nest six months or will be will be telling.

in april we had congressman louie goment saying that immigrants are trained to act like they're hispanic when they're really members of al qaeda. in march we had alaska representative don young talking about house hi father employed wetbacks. i mean, the evidence for republican contempt for immigrants is almost -- this is deeply unhelpful, isn't it? >> i wouldn't pained the entire -- >> i'm giving specific examples. >> in any debate we'll have a few isolated voices that say unwise or offensive things. again that's inappropriate and wrong, but let's not have such an important issue defined by that. i think you'll see a republican party that wants to have immigration system that's legal, that's welcoming, that's appropriate and builds on the immigration of this country. the distractions of a few outliers making unwise comments

shouldn't get the bulk of the attention on a great show like yours. >> so do you believe, then, that the republicans should come to some kind of agreement on both what we do with undocumented immigrants and a path to citizenship? is that something that you would support? >> i think we need comprehensive immigration reform that features a number of component. one part of that could be a path to legal status. i think in certain circumstances there should also be a path to legal citizenship. if reps don't like what they have offered, put your own solutions on, but we do need to fix this broken system. yes, i think under certain circumstances.

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the bill's passage would have been disastrous to the white house, which has consistently argued, what was argued about the 205 to 217 defeat was it brought together the extreme right in the house, with the extreme left. even received an unlikely vote

of support from the president for none other than house speaker john boehner. i voted last night ubs because the nsa programs have helped keep americans safe. they are in my view ample safeguards to protect the privacy of the american people. >> and for more now, we're joined by congress mast john yarmouth, who's taking a break. he's decided to leave washington for the moment. we'll come to that late. you were one of the votes in favor of this bill. classified that an intelligence program bill would be debated like this. are you glad this program was leaked, if the result was for such a debate to take place? >> i'm not glad the leaks took place, but i think last night's vote was a indication that there's great concern whether this program is being operated in a constructive way in a way

that respects the privacy rights of americans. mime biggest concern, martin, is not that we've done it. i've been through a couple classified briefings on the program. it's just that we don't have any way of knowing they're actually operating the program the way they say there are. there's virtually no accountable. the last nsa report to congress on the at this time of this program under section 215 of the p.a.t.r.i.o.t. act was eight lines long. when you're dealing with a program that's gathering billions of pieces of information and is -- i think there were just under 1800 requests for further security activities, eight lines is not enough accountability for us to be confident that the rights of our citizen are being protected. >> that seems to be the central issue here. it's the accountable verse the nation's security. as someone who voted for the bill, do you feel that the country is that much more secure

sips 9/11 that such a program like this practice also is no longer necessary? >> i'm leaning in that direction. i don't think there's any doubt that we're more secure than before 9/11 we've had the time squares, the bomber at christmas. we've reported on these stories, plus the 60-plus that we don't know about. i would rather rebuild the program with sufficient accountability. my colleague steve cohen has a bill introduced to actually

change the way members of the fisa court are appointed. right now the chief justice appoints every one of them. that's another way to get some congressional accountability. this vote saw unlikely groups coming together. conservatives working with liberals. in fact, you voted with many conservatives, but against mine nor leader nancy pelosi. why is it these opposing factions can come together on an issue like this, but we cannot reach any kind of agreement on, for example, comprehensive immigration reform, the american jobs act? >> i notice, it's pretty bizarre. i'm real confident we're going to get there this year. i believe we are going to come together with a great bipartisan

solution and the jobs act, there's almost -- >> and infrastructure, and the minimum wage, and the sequester. all of these issues. >> that's right, and most all of them, it's because there is no more moderate almost in the congress. they're philosophical extremes, and the congress has become almost exclusively a political body and not a governing body. >> congressman john yarmouth, enjoying the kentucky sunshine, i'm sure. >> it's beautiful here. >> i'll bet it is. thank you, sir. and we'll be right back to clear the air. [ male announcer ] this is betsy.

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services. that's why the infant mortality rate is so high, because it's not available to everyone. at present 62% of women who already have health insurance do not have sufficient maternity care coverage. but from next year, the affordable care act requires all health insurance plans to cover maternity care as an essential health benefit. now, in the trough of republican talking points that people like speaker john boehner and congressman paul ryan continually drink from, all we ever hear is that the affordable care act kills jobs. never once have we heard them say that it might actually save lives. the lives of the most vulnerable citizens of this country, and it will, if they'll let it. thanks so much for watching

our broadcast this afternoon. crist matthews and "hardball" is right next. let me start tonight with this, public office, what is it today? what does it say to elevate one to public office? what does it mean to say he or she is the leader? this is the best of us, we choose this person to speak for us, be for us in the sun and storm ames. who is our bridge over troubled waters? just asking. has our view of public office so declined with just 1 in 8 of us saying we respect the u.s. congress and the majority saying to dump them all, havee