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>> if you're drowning, take off your rubber boots, put them under your arms, you can float for 12 hours. >> if president bush 41 can shave his head, i can certainly make a donation. >> these are children from haiti, tibet, iraq and amelia, my daughter. we'll have a full report on their incredible stories coming up later this summer. that is what i learned today. joe. >> fantastic. a great organization. guys, thanks so much for watching this week. we greatly appreciate it. if it's way too early, it's "morning joe." but stick around. chuck todd is next. >> have a great weekend. violence keeps chicago on edge. the congressional black caucus convenes an emergency summit on guns and crime in the city. we'll go live to chicago with one of the events leaders about what they can do to stop the killing. meantime, back in washington, just a few days to go till
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congress heads home for the month of august. they won't be in d.c. to avert a budget battle. and one republican is calling for them to resist the smell of jet fuel to get some work done. and before they leave town, speaker boehner comes down hard again on his conservative colleague's steve king's red hot rhetoric on immigration. but king is still not backing down. good morning from washington it it's friday, july 26th, 2013. i'm luke russert in for the great chuck todd. there's a lot of news to get to today. we begin with the action some lawmakers are taking to address an epidemic of gun violence in the nation's nird largest city. 226 people had been murdered in chicago this year alone according to police. more than 1,000 have been shot over just one long weekend on the fourth of july, 72 people were shot, 12 of them killed. that's when congresswoman robin kelly and other members of the congressional black caucus decided to convene an emergency summit to address the issue of
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gun violence facing chicago and other cities across the country. illinois democratic congresswoman robin kelly joins me now. representative kelly, thank you so much for being on the program, we appreciate it. >> oh, you're welcome, good morning. >> so i'm reading some of the background on this. you want to address the four types of violence, gang violence, dom meftsic violence, youth violence. what's the first thing you'll have at? >> well, we're going to have a speaker from the department of justice to start us off this morning. then we're going to break out into breakout rooms and have roundtables and we'll have different entities represented. churches, police, activists and the general public. we hope there will be youth at the table also. we'll spend some time on causes but really we want to look at solutions. when we leave here today, we want a plan of action. in the evening, come 7:00 to 9:00, we'll have a town hall
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meeting about what happened today and also people that could not take off from work. this will be their opportunity to ask questions and give us suggestions to the congressional black caucus members. >> one of your colleagues said you wanted to create an environment where there was summer jobs, where kids would be kept in school longer. perhaps create a more welcome environment for those returning home from prison. how are we able to do those things, especially with the budget restraints we have throughout the country? >> we definitely need an urban strategy. it's called priorities. if we invest now, that will save a lot of money. sending someone to prison costs a whole lot more money than sending someone to college. >> one thing i found interesting is what you guys are sort of talking about is the anti-new town. this is sort of a systemic system of violence. it doesn't stop.
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you have 72 people shot over fourth of july weekend and it doesn't necessarily bat an eye to many folks around the country, saying it is what it is. it's always going to happen. how do you reverse that. what do you say to people who say, look, chicago is flush with money, there are tons of people who have been paid for years. this system does not change by any means. the kids are never cared about. more employees pad their bank accounts. >> of course i disagree with that and with all due respect to newtown, think the issue is when there are mass murders, i liken it to 747 crashes as opposed to a two seater. that seems to get a lot more attention. there's a lot more people in chicago doing a lot of good things. and we really want to promote those programs and see what resources they need to expand they their programs around this
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city. again, we need to invest in our youth, summer jobs and mentoring is really going to take a village. parents, mentoring at the school programs, everyone getting involved to make a difference. >> real quickly, i'll just ask you, the justice department has said they'll get involved in texas regarding the voting laws there. what's your take on that? l you guys celebrating that this morning? >> no, i'm very pleased to hear they're going to get involved. that definitely needs to be looked at. >> representative kelly from the congressional black caucus summit. emergency summit in chicago. chicago state about gun violence, thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> in washington, president obama's pick for the number two job, the department of homeland security, denied at a senate hearing yesterday, that he helped a company run by hillary clinton's brother obtain a foreign investor visa. >> i have never, ever in my
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career, exercised undue influence to influence the outcome of a case. i have never based my decisions on who brings a case but, rather, upon the facts in the law. the allegations as they have been framed are unequivocally false. >> he is the current director of u.s. citizenship and immigration services. he's under scrutiny by the department of inspector general for allegations he misused a visa program. the lawmakers who may need the most convincing, the eight republican members of the senate homeland security committee, they boycotted the hearing, objecting to holding a hearing while an investigation is ongoing. oklahoma senator tom coburn said in a state, quote, are we to avoid asking questions regarding allegations which carry serious
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implications for mr. mayorkas' prose fessional conduct? nbc news correspondent michael is issakof joins me. take us through the connection between hillary clinton's brother, terry mcauliffe, and this fellow at homeland security department, and what it could mean for all three of them. >> well, clearly, first of all, luke, there's a lot of politics here on all sides. but here's the situation as we understand it. mayorkas is the nominee to be the deputy homeland security secretary. which means he'll be filling in when janet napolitano leaves if he gets confirmed. the problem is on monday night the inspector general's office from homeland security sent a bombshell e-mail to senate lawmakers on the committee
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saying, we have mayorkas under investigation now for improper -- for allegations that he improperly intervened in the applications -- in applications for this investor visa program submitted by a company called gulf coast, which happens to be run by anthony rodham, hillary clinton's brother, and which had partnered with terry mcauliffe on this electric car company that green tech -- that's been an issue in the virginia gubernatorial race. now, the e-mail from the inspector general's office, which really gave legitimacy to all this, was solicited by senator grassley who has been hearing from whistleblowers. grassley has become the sort of go-to guy for disgruntled whistleblowers in the government about mayorkas. grasly wrote a letter to the inspector general's office and got this e-mail sent back which kind of stopped everybody in
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their tracks, whoa, what's going on here. the e-mail was not explicit about what exactly he is alleged to have done. republicans have jumped on that, saying, how can we go ahead and confirm this guy with a pending investigation. >> it might as well be 1998 all over again. thank you. now to our friday daily rundown roundup. 2016, a day after a band of house libertarians joined forces with civil libertarian democrats, they nearly defunded the program. chris christie, it's not going to sit well with him. he fired back, evoking the feelings of 9/11 victims. he denounced the libertarian trend in the gop. >> stream of libertarianism that's going through both parties right now and making big headlines i think is a very
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dangerous thought. listen, you can name any number of people, and he's one of them. these es yoteric intellectual debates -- i want them to come to new jersey and sit across from the widows and the orphans and have that conversation. but i think we need to be very cautious about how joyful we are over the idea somehow we're going to shift this baby way back. because the next aattack, peopl are going to be looking back on the people having this intellectual debate. >> nbc news senior political editor mark murray joins me now for more of this morning's first read. mark, there seems to be this interesting divide in the gop n now, peter king, chris christie, let's keep up the intelligence gathering, be hawkish. and the libertarian, similar to
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what we saw in '04 and the issue of iraq. >> a little bit, but the issue of security, after world war ii, has always been we're going to be tougher than our open six whether primary or general election. be it against terrorism, be it against communism, but rand paul and a lot of his followers, if he rubs for president in 2016 or someone like him, face off against hillary clint be, the tables will be turned all of a sudden. the republicans won't be the hawks in that general election. you're seeing chris christie and these comments, what we saw from peter king a few days ago, really try to go back to that republican playbook. there's one other thing interesting here. chris christie's been tagged as being too moderate for cozying up to president obama, being for president obama, supporting gun control measures. this is a way for him to go and say, look, i can be conservative, i can go to right in a potentially republican playing field. >> he definitely doubles down in that area of the republican three-legged stool.
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marco rubio, his poll numbers have gone down a little bit. now his positive rating is down from 28 in april to 23 now in july, negative is up to 20. views of rubio amongst republicans. 49 thought they was positive in april. only 42 now. his negative rating up to 11%. conservative, down also. quite fascinating, this drop for rubio. >> he has taken a hit, which notable in these numbers, this is clearly fixable. it's not a huge race where numbers are upside down with these conservative groups. explains why he has a video out, hitting barack obama, saying, look, if obama care is funded, we're going to end up opposing that, risking a potential government shutdown. he's been very tough on that issue it he's been talking a lot about supporting legislation that would restrict abortion after 20 weeks of fertilization. so you are seeing him get his
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mojo back with conservatives. he did take this bump. will be interesting to see if the immigration debate gets kicked back to the senate, whether this kind of resurfaces again after all the work he's trying to do on other issues. >> real quickly, you heard michael izzycough, this issue of hillary clinton and the dhf in the role of virginia. how much of a role will that have in the state? is it a democratic version of the connection that mcdonnell and luch nelly l worried about? >> you have all these, for political reporter, this is very confusing, but it makes everybody look really bad and i think that's what both candidates are pushing for, to outslime the other guy. >> harkens back ton an era we all thought was over in american politics. thank you so much for joining us. coming up, new insight into the zimmerman verdict. what the new comments from the
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one minority juror tell us about what happened in that sanford courtroom. and inside into the role russia and vladimir putin is playing in american politics. don't think anyone wants his endorsement. first, a look ahead at today's politics planner. you're watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc. paul ryan at his event. play close.
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tests on the deadly accident but destroyed the findings. the company which pay a $230,000 fine and make a $55 million donation to the national fish and wildlife foundation. wonder if that's tax deductible? 11 people died on the explosion on the deep water horizon rig. at juror in the second degree murder trial of george zimmerman spoke out thursday. the only minority on the six person jury that found zimmerman not guilty. she had some harsh words in an interview with abc news. >> george zimmerman got away with murder but you can't get away from god. at the end of the day, he's going to have a lot of questions and answers he has to deal with. the law couldn't prove it. >> joining me now from miami is nbc correspondent mark potter who's filed the zimmerman trial closely. it seems like she didn't want to let george zimmerman go free but
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she seems to have been talked into it. >> well, not quite, she said that there was discussion in the jury room that led eventually to that acquittal. what the jury said was b-29 would went by the name of maddy, her first name, in the abc interview, said in the beginning her first vote was find zimmerman guilty second degree murder but she and the other jurors looked carefully at the evidence and law in this case and they came to conclude there just was not enough evidence to find him guilty so he was acquitted. she said she still stands by that legal verdict today, although in her heart, emotionally, she might feel differently. according to abc, she also said that she actually feels the trial should not have even been held, that she considered it a publicity stunt. she also said she feels very badly for the trayvon martin family and feels that she owes them an apology.
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last night, trayvon martin's mother, sabrina fault bfulton issued a statement, saying, quote, it is devastating for my family to hear the comments from juror b-29. comments we already knew to be true, that zimmerman got away with murder. it challenges our nation once again to do everything we can to make sure this doesn't happen to another child. we reached out to zimmerman's attorney for another comment but have not got be a response. >> nbc's mark potter, thanks so much for joining us. to cleveland now. within the next hour, a court hearing will be held on a possible plea deal for ariel castro. nbc's kevin tibbles is outside the courthouse with the details. kevin what do we know? >> reporter: well, we know that
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house in which these women were held for that decade, it very soon could be condemned and torn down here in cleveland, luke. >> that is a really vile place. thank you so much. still to come, summer bummer. it's almost august and that means recess time on capitol hill. do members of congress really deserve that time off? later, what house speaker john boehner had to say about steve king, his colleague, and what it all means. first, trivia question. since 1947, what's the most number of days the senate has been in session during one two-year term? the first person to tweet the correct abc to @dailyrundown will get an on-air shoutout. stay tuned. etty good so far. [ herbie ] eh, hold on brent, what's this? oh, that's the new nissan.
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welcome back to "the daily rundown." i'm luke russert, in for chuck todd. chuck recently spoke with daniel silva about his book "the english girl" which takes the central character out of the middle east in search of the british prime minister's kidnapped mistress. now that's a story. >> joining me now, the author of the new book "the english girl," daniel silva, just in time for summer reading, beach reading. thanks for giving us a book every summer now at this point. let's talk a little about the book. you got out of the middle east. >> i did. the funny thing about gabriel, my long-running character -- >> who is the lead character in this book. >> he's been the lead character in, gosh, 12 now -- >> i think we're up to 12. shouldn't you know the answer?
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>> i think it's 13 actually. you know, when i decided to make him a continuing character, i knew i had to do more than just the middle east. otherwise, i would get very narrow focus. the fact he's an intelligence operator has allowed me to branch into different areas of the world, and different suppbjt matter. throughout his long career, he has made lots of contacts in the intelligence community, including in great britain. he is asked in "the english girl" to find a kidnapped woman. who works for britain's ruling party. disappears on holiday. unfortunately, that girl is having an affair with the prime minister so gabriel is quietly asked to find her. >> you always seem to have the ability to know who our next enemy is over things.
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you talk -- you refer in the book somewhat america's just not as influential anymore. which is obviously we're watching that play out in real time this summer. >> well, we saw as egypt was unraveling -- these are small images but they're poignant. secretary of state was vacations on nantucket. and the president i believe was playing golf. i'm not passing judgment on them for doing that. but our lack of input and guidance and -- during those few hours of crisis from egypt are striking. i think it speaks to the fact we just didn't know what happened in those. we're very ambivalent. >> we don't want to be be anti-democratic, not pro muslim brotherhood, they didn't know
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what to do. be careful what you ask for. >> i think even now after all these months we still don't have a clear policy about what to do in syria. these are big problems obviously. but i think that -- the way this unfolded and our lack of input is quite shocking. >> so, another aspect, the fact that the russians are the bad guys. >> well, you know, the administration has famously -- i think we're up to two resets now with russia it and what has it gotten us? >> bush tried one. that didn't work out so well. >> we've had two resets now. we had the initial reset. we had the falling out. we reached out again. what did that get us? they kept john kerry waiting. putin kept john kerry waiting outside his office for three hours when he went to see him in russia. and now we asked them to help us on the syria problem. what are the russians doing?
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th they are, in effect, on the same side as hezbollah -- so that's striking. that's where they see themselves in the world. >> so making them a bad guy in your book easy? >> always easy there. they're great villains always. and they have limited ability to make trouble for us in the world, but i do see them as being a future challenge for us. >> it seems like you're -- like, i have to get a book out for the summer. we're grateful. is there a formula you do? do you have these stories already? can you give us a little hint about how you pull this off? >> i can talk about what i'm doing right now. i have the beginning notion of the next novel. >> can you tell us the setting? >> no, because it would speak to what happens in this book and i
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wouldn't want there to be any spoilers. it's just -- start with a small germ of self-doubt and a small germ of something. rather like a painter starting with base layers down and build up. >> do you know how you will end it first? >> no. this novel, i did know how i was going to end it. it has a very important shocking twist at the end. i had to, you know, very carefully re carefully leave the reader -- >> this one, i had a very crazy idea early. right on schedule -- >> it better be. >> always a pleasure, congratulations. "the english girl" is the new book. >> thank you so much. >> up next, closing time, congress gets ready to go home for the august recess.
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we're keeping a close eye on egypt after recently ousted president mohamed morsi was to be put under house arrest -- real arrest for 15 days. this has to do with allegations morsi worked with hamas to help escape from prison 2011. the announcement just hours before mass protests were set to take place across egypt. what we're hearing, at least ten have been injured in the clashes so far. turning now to today's "deep dive." a look at congressional recession. it's an age old complaint. congress gets too many days off.
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one week from today, house members will be able to skip town for a month of summer recess. house lawmakers are scheduled to meet for 126 days this year. that's a slight increase from 2012 when they were scheduled for 107 days. but that was for campaign days, because 2012 was a campaign year. they call district workweeks to hold town halls and spend time with local officialsp in a recent study by the management foundation found that members do spend most of their time at homeworking with constituents it if you think there's a lot of time away from washington, it's nothing compared to what washington once did during the early days of the institution. it was a part time job beginning in december to may. that shortened schedule was due to the difficulties in travel, horse and buggy, and the awful summer heat of washington, d.c. over the years, with faster travel and air conditioning, they started working year round with breaks built in.
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the new schedule allowed the legislative sessions to run longer especially during the johnston administration. during his ambitious legislative agenda that included the civil rights act and voting rights act. the calendar is never set in stone. congressional lead eers can chae it whenever they want. like they did in the budget battle unless 2011. one congressman who is calling for house leaders to amend the calendar again and cancel the summer recess in order to finish the 12 annual spending bills for the next fiscal year, he's joining me right now. that will be virginia congressman scott rigel who is calling for congress to skip the summer break. thank you for joining me. >> thank you, luke. >> house is going on this recess, but they're only going to be in for nine days in the month of september. have you said this to eric cantor? it's republicans who are creating this schedule. >> well, i have. it's a really serious matter. i'm really proud of how we've
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aligned our calendar with the challenges facing our country. but on this particular matter, that is passing all 12 appropriation bills that fund the federal government, we're way off track. it is something that we control. we can pivot. we can still pivot even now. just a slight correction and even makes the point even stronger is that we're not breaking for four weeks, we're actually breaking for five. >> what has the leadership said to you when you brought this up? this is a common complaint of, of all people, nancy pelosi who says, let us stay here and work. what have they said to you about this idea? >> it's a house tradition. it's really carried over from year-to-year. tradition has its place in so many areas of american life. but when extraordinary challenges are facing our country and certainly our fiscal situation and our fiscal trajectory really put i think our country at risk.
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this is when you pitvot. you say, look, breaking for four or five weeks may be house tradition, but it is not wise. >> mark warner's also pushing this as sort of this virginia practicality, if you will. i want to ask you, though, about this whole idea of where we are with congress, that basically you're suggesting let's work six days a week, let's look at 8:00 a.m., go all the way to 7:00 p.m. let's get in a room and really get to know each other. this really feeds into the idea the only way congress can work is if you guys are locked in a room and people are forced to talk to each other. how is it that bad? >> i think when i make this case, i think some -- look at me as, well, scott's only been here 2 1/2 years, there may be a degree of political naivete or idealism. if that's the charge, count me as guilty. we need to pivot off this
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cynicism we have that we can't change congress. we've got to believe that. we also have to recognize this is not a normal time. when extraordinary forces are coming against you, as they are now, with our budget situation, it is not something that is acceptable to fund our government from something known as a continuing resolution. it's just a fiscal vehicle that takes what we funded last year, it moves it over with the same amount and the same budget line items into next year. >> really quickly, you think the budget could pass as it stands now? >> there's a lot of unknowns in that, you know, what's presented to us. it is one of the most difficult decisions that i've made in my time, in my short time in congress. look, shutting down the government that is -- that's not
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acceptab acceptable. at the same time, i don't want to facilitate the type of, you know, just continuance of bad policy that i sought the office to change. >> it's going to be a fascinating debate in september when we come back from this long recess. just a hunch, you might be in for more than nine days. we appreciate it. from norfolk, virginia, thank you so much. up next, let me be clear, when speaker boehner says those words, you do want to listen, but as one congressman from iowa hearing him? first, the white house soup of the day, ragin cajun gumbo, james carville made it himself, we'll be right back. ♪ i'm your venus [ female announcer ] what does beauty feel like?
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boehner had tough talk for his republican colleague. >> i want to be clear. there's no place in this debate for hateful or ignorant comments from elected officials. what he said does not reflect values of the american people or the republican party. we all need to do our work in a constructive, open and helpful way. as i said many times, we can disagree without being disagreeable. >> let's bring in our gaggle whole abide by the same concept. he writes for national review and bloomberg see view. politico's m.j. lee and stan mcmahon. this was a huge story in the latino community. steve king was on with jorge ramos. he came up from miami for this story alone. does -- and speaker boehner
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yesterday saying this could hurt the pathway for immigration reform. how tough were steve king's comments you think for the conservative brand, especially in the latino community? >> i think it hurt every cause with which congressman king is associated. i actually think if you are an opponent of this immigration bill and you're making serious arguments about it, against it, you ought to be the people who are most concerned about these kinds of comments because they discredit the entire idea. >> steve, as a democrat, i mean, as much as this helps the party with growing their base, their latino base, it does hurt the overall prospects of immigration reform. i spoke with some democrats who say, yeah, we like to pile on. but also, this is kind of scary stuff. because if that wing is enabled and emboldened the republican party, they're going to kill off any chance of republican reform. >> i think refor is popular enough, with enough members if it ever gets to it the house fl, it's going to pass. i think it's interesting boehner
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says it doesn't represent the views of the republican party and it's hateful and stupid but he didn't do anything about it. back in december, when four members voted against him for speaker, he stripped them of their committee assignments. this guy is sitting on a committee that makes this immigration policy the judiciary committee, it's a very important committee. if john boehner's serious, and it has no place in the party, he should remove him from the committee. >> fascinating to see him use those words about a fellow member's comments. you don't necessarily hear that from boehner. he sort of lets the housework its way and lets the people speak. pretty interesting. >> you're absolutely right. i think just how strongly boehner came out and condemnled steve king for making those comments. i mean, this is not the first time a member of the rep party has said something that is off message or said something a little controversial but the degree to which boehner came out sort of underscored how nervous gop leadership is about the image in which -- how the
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republican party talks about and talks to minority voters. it's something they have to work on. >> the very beginning of this, republican leaders have been telling their members, look, you can take any position you want to on this buy and its merits but you've got to be careful about the tone. and all of that was basically not a tone problem, it was a steam king problem. >> politics is about symbols it the reason todd aiken really hurt the republican party because he's one idiom not missouri, it's because that's what people believe about the republican party. this is what people fear about the republican party. king seems to confirm it. boehner knows it. that's why they're so worried. >> seems the rebrand by the gop hasn't gone anywhere in the first seven months of trying to do it. >> all the polls show the gop could be in jeopardy if they don't try to win over the majority of voters. of course you'll have boehner and gop leadership speaking out so fiercely. >> it's fascinating stuff. we'll be right back with the gaggle to talk a little bit about anthony weiner.
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race and 29 say the latest news doesn't affect their vote. let's bring back our gaggle. steve, as a democratic consultant, if you were advising anthony weiner right now, aside from him saying he is not going to get out of the race, what is anthony weiner's play right now? every editorial board has told him to step out. what is his place right now? >> i really has only one play. in the same nbc news poll, 49% of democrats said he should stay in the race and indicates that 49% of democrats are at least willing to consider his candidacy. i think weiner is in this race not to win it and maybe not to embarrass himself although he that done that. i think the thought he could rehabilitate himself going through this process and run for something later. i don't know that either of those are possible now. the rehabilitation or running later because he absolutely made a fool of himself. >> by the way, it was this gentleman right here luke russert. >> in the past!
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2011! in the past! >> but i can say, this republicans look at this. nancy pelosi had to speak out again at yesterday's hearing saying disrespectful for women their behavior here. where is the gop fallen? is this sit back and laugh and let the chips fall where they may? >> i think so. it's not the republicans are playing in the new york city's race this year. there has been such a string of republican mayors but i think the main thing is to trade jokes about it. >> you know what is interesting? >> most of which i can't repeat on television. >> great case of hypocrisy. sanford running they pretended they wouldn't support him and put money in at the end. democrats have asked him to get out of the race. that's different. >> slightly different circumstance. >> it's weird. right? there is no -- >> people like their affairs to be real, not over the internet.
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m.j., quickly. is this a problem for the democratic brand nationally or a sort of isolated incident in new york city? >> i think it's more of an isolated incident in new york city. i have to say we are talking about these new poll numbers showing that weiner numbers have fallen and he doesn't have the lead any more. we haven't actually learned anything fundamentally new about weiner because this news scandal came out. this inappropriate behavior, online behavior with this young woman. the same reason he had to resign from congress in the first place. i think in the minds of most voters it goes scandal, resignation and run for mayor. >> nancy pelosi said get your therapy in private. real quickly. around the table. steve? >> i talked with chris matthews who has a new book coming out, tip and the gip. >> going to be great. >> political pro has launched a new educational vertical and check it out. >> these guys aren't shameless
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the deal is likely life without parole. we are waiting for the judge and castro to enter into that courtroom what is called a pretrial conference on this. i want to bring in lisa bloom. >> i think from the prosecution's point of view it's to video the women going through a public and excruciating trial. this allows the legal chapter for them to close and likely to go forward. >> how likely would a murder charge been and how they would have want it? >> the murder charge is fetal homicide meaning he assaulted one of them when she was pregnant and causing the death of the fetus. that is murder in the state of ohio and many other places. as to whether that would result in the death penalty that would frankly be usually but on these facts with this man what he did and how revolting it is to everyone frankly it wouldn't surprise me if h
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