watching closely. we will with be monitoring north carolina. thanks for watching. "weekends with alex witt" starts right now. a new push for the middle class. more this morning from president obama on trying to even the economic playing field. a live report from the white house in a minute. a tale of two countries. how the north and south are marking 60 years since the end of the korean war today. what happened in the zimmerman jury room. the latest juror speaking out. what does your car insurance cost have to do with a college degree? the answer in a new report. good morning, everyone. welcome to "weekends with alex witt". president obama is ramping the

push for his economic agenda. he's calling for congress to work together wore job growth with the goal of strengthening the middleclass. >> threatening to default on the bills this country has already racked up, shutting down the government. none of those things add up to an economic plan. none of that will take this country where it needs to go. >> let's go to the white house. kristen welker, good morning to you. >> well, alex, the strategy right now seems to be for president obama to get out of washington, to get out of the white house and to take his message about the economy on the road. we saw that kick off this week. he made stops in illinois, philadelphia. he talked about investing in

infrastructure, early education, job growth. the president's's goal, a few things. if the white house also trying to take some credit for the economic recovery. it has been slow. a lot of people have not said it's been low enough. but president obama said we have really made gains. and budget battling coming up this fall. the debt ceiling and the overall budget they're going to have to contend with which will come up in september. here's a little more what president obama had to say in his weekly address. >> if we don't make magnet a good area for jobs, if we don't invest in manufacturing, research, and transportation and information networks, we might as well hit the pause button

while the rest goes ahead. that is certainly not what ales the middle class. >> the president will be back on tuesday. he heads to chattanooga, tennessee where he will focus on phfrgz. they have used it in the past. you recall the payroll tax cut fight. he took his message on the road. that helped to rand up the public pressure and learn a victory in that substance. republicans already digging in their heels, the sort of campaign they have said is all sizzle, no steak here. they have basically said we have seen this in the past. but the president going out talking about what he wants to do but not sitting down and ledge slating. of course the debt ceiling, we have seen that in the past. republicans right now saying

they are not going to increase the settings. they're just not going to negotiate over it. >> is. >> an echo in here? we have heard that before. >> yes, we have. >> we have indeed. chris ten, thank you. calls for anthony weiner to drop out of the new york mayoral break. spitzer was asked on the lawsuitest messages he engaged with weiner online. >> i think the voters are -- there are some who say it has contributed. i'm agnostic on that. but i think the editorial pages have spoken. but i think the voters at the end of the day will make the

decision. >> he's attempting his own political comeback after admitting a prosecution scandal. a woman named sidney leathers said she had an online relationship with weiner. >> he made these promises that he had totally changed. he was a i man now and made from his mistakes. >> do you think he was trying to pull one over. >> absolutely. he wouldn't have said i learned my lesson if he wasn't trying to be someone else. >> sidney's parents must be proud. >> in letter to rush sharks the u.s. has no plans to seek the death penalty for edward snowden

if convicted. he has been living in a transit area so fast moscow airport for the last march. he could face 30 years in convicted >> congressman said it bill may not happen until october. so should anthony weiner drop out of the race? my handle is @alexwhitt. let's go to the l. dorian making its way to the caribbean. and glassy headed tosh the. starting the day off in the mid 50s. that also means as it continues to spread to the south and east we will see the cool air spread south and east as well. out ahead, we have showers and storms. more wet weather in the

southeast, especially near atlanta, also back into new orleans where heavy rain is falling. there is the possibility over the course of the next 48 hours we could end up with three to four inches of rain, especially back into parts of louisiana and the gulf coast states. we're still keeping an eye on tropical storm oryann. there's a pretty good chance it will generate completely. not too big a threat to the bahamas. it is still a tropical storm but it is weakening. warm in chicago, 68. 90s into southern technical tbgs. 75 in seattle. looks nice that way. the cool air will spread eastward. boston, upper 90s. 100 down in the tkpwhruft coast.

another round of showers and storms as it pushes east. we are going to see improvements as we head through the weekend. well, in brazil, pope francis continues to receive rock star treatment. he is on his sixth day of his first international trip since elected in march. he was greeted by hundreds of thousands of people on month. friday he was over an elaborate of the waving of the cross. in pong kapyongyanpyongyang health. tens of thousands marched below in city streets. kim jong-un didn't make a speech as he did last april.

we'll bring you a live report of south korea later in the broadcast. in egypt, dozens are dead, thousands more injured after overnight clashes between sea supporters and the military. this is the latest. we are in cairo with the very latest. what's going on? lots of clashes and certainly fatalities to report. >> reporter: that's correct. good morning, alex. in fact, what began last night as a relatively peaceful protest ended in a huge discrepancies in the death toll. when we start with the numbers, 21 were killed between police and supporter of the ousted president. a loose organization of supporters of the president who have been staging this said the

death toll is 120. it shows there are still dozens of bodies inside the official morgue wait to be shipped to the morgues across the city. we expect numbers to increase, perhaps somewhere in the middle of the two figures. what happened was this sit-in, largely stationary, parts of it attempted to move to a part of cairo. that's when the police engaged them. the police say they only fired tear gas. but that seems very hard to believe given the wounds and casualties we are hearing from liveness witnesses showing many more injuries than tear gas ill hailation. what happened over the course of the day were the types we saw in alexandria. that even changed over the course of the evening between

supporters and opponents. all of it came on a day when they asked supporters to go to the streets and ask solidarity with with the country's army. that caught a lot of people by spraoeufplts many skeptics felt this was a license by the military to break up some of what we have seen across the country. >> thanks for bringing us the wrap on that. the battle of capitol hill. some perspective, next. from capital one, bjorn earns unlimited rewards for his small business. take these bags to room 12 please. [ garth ] bjorn's small business earns double miles on every purchase every day. produce delivery. [ bjorn ] just put it on my spark card. [ garth ] why settle for less? ahh, oh! [ garth ] great businesses deserve unlimited rewards. here's your wake up call. [ male announcer ] get the spark business card from capital one and earn unlimited rewards. choose double miles or 2% cash back on every purchase every day.

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i say to these members of congress, i'm laying out my ideas to give the middle class a

better shot. so now it's time for you to lay out your ideas. you can't just be against something. you've got to be for something. >> president obama is speaking to illinois earlier this week as part of a new blitz to forward his economic agenda for the middle class. he will continue the offensive next week when he travels to chattanooga, tennessee. with a good morning to both of you, i'll begin with you, bob. doesn't it feel like the president is in campaign mode this week? ultimately, what's his goal with this push talking about the middle class? what does he hope to accomplish? >> ultimately, he would hope to getting some of his legislation passed. and his theory of economics that's a middle-out approach. versus what republicans characterize as the trick the el down approach.

if the top thrives, everybody below thrives. he would argue republicans can't just be against things. john boehner said part should be what they pass but what they try to repeal. >> let's talk about the latest poll. it shows the president's approval rating is slipping. how much do you think the the white house pays attention to that. do you think it will boost that number. this is where the president thrives, right? >> he certainly thrives in campaign mode. the white house is looking with a fair amount of weariness. he has things he wants to accomplish in the second term. he is not going to get the things done. support increasing. so i think obama is certainly out there rallying support by

using his number one skill, which is getting out and convincing people. you know, the economy has rebounded in the president's time of offense. but it seems like a growing gap between the haves and what-nots. >> the president is arguing that the emphasis is the middle class. by the way, before i forget, alex, i want to thank you for bringing up subjects that don't have anything to do with anthony weiner. >> we are talking about the white house having to fight the gop it seems every step of the way. how weary is the white house on that? >> i think they will get even wearier after the congress. they will have negotiations about how to keep the government open. it is currently working.

it expireses on the 30th. they will use that as a leverage point to extract demands from the white house. as much as they can keep the president talking to the american people, they see it as a benefit. >> you're working on a new article about obama care, all the in fighting. and that's leading to talk about a possible government shutdown. what are you hearing? >> that's right. tea party senators in particular have sent a letter to harry reid claiming they will not support any government funding bill that includes money for obama care. but the truth is a lot of establishment players like john mccain and tom coburn have come out. we'll be tracking that very closely, alex. it's a fascinating point of

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these are individuals now who plan to live or representative the property. it's an enviable position to be in. some real estate investors are saying they have a little bravado. they say i'm paying cash, i would like this done, that done. tough to be the seller. >> i certainly understand. >> what about the speaky credit card charges. they're called gray fees. 35% of people had one people on their credit card as we speak. they're $215 on an annual basis. it was free but then it automatically became a paid membership and i didn't even notice. the new culprit, an app. i want to download it. i just say, yeah, yeah, yeah. somewhere in there in the fine

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that was very clear today. in the north, the armistice which ended hostilities but of course didn't end the world. it was mainly a cease-fire, is marked as a victory. and today was a particularly big parade. all that weaponry rolling through the middle of pyongyang. here in the south it is treated with a bit of a shrug. they have seen it before. it ended in a bloody stalemate. instead of celebrating they remember the dead and they also give thanks to the 21 countries who fought side by side with the side in a war that cost 37,000 american lives. here today there were many veterans of that war. some of them now in their 80s who have come for the first time

visiting the old battle fields marking this occasion and looking at awe in the prosperous in this glistening city of seoul. it is a vindication for everything they fought for, alex. >> they are celebrating things a little bit differently than they do in north korea, right? >> that's right. here they don't treat it as a victory. we saw the president presiding over a very solemn ceremony at the national war memorial. present also were diplomats, veterans. she reminded people that the war is not over and described the

peace as uncertain. clearly, a very different way of looking things here from here in the south. the reality being of course that the war was fought to a bloody stalemate. perhaps a more solid approach. >> and something we call over here the korean conflict. it is now 33 past the hour. time for your first five headlines. shots at the scene of a hostage standoff in miami. six people killed by a gunman who was then killed by the s.w.a.t. team. >> and spain's most deadly train crashes. cars were taken from the site where 78 people were killed. and 25-year-old bradley manning admits to sending hundreds of

thousands of classic documents to wikileaks. >> someone the marble statue had green paint on the shin, chair, and base. a woman fought two years fighting uquifax. good for her. those are your fast five headlines. >> president obama will be back pitching his economic plan. he will speak at an amazon shipping center. wednesday he called out some republicans for playing politics with jobs. >> some agree with me.

they worry they will face swift political retaliation for cooperating with me. joining me now is hispanic media director for the rnc. are they exposing him for purely political reasoning? >> hes republicans agree with him. we just saw last week democrats vote to delay the mandate in obama care. they are facing tough elections in 2014. and i would even challenge him and say they are dismissing his policies because they make it tough in 2014 for him. >> the gop can't just be against his ideas.

it has to be for something to have ideas of its own. john boehner and mitch o'connell might not like the president's speeches but do they have one yet? >> the. >> you normal 17%. 9.1 for hispanic. african-americans, over 16%. he's going on this tour to sell obama care. 47% of folks think it's a bad idea. >> can i ask you a question? >> yeah. >> i asked about a gop plan. you're talking about the president's policies. is there a gop plan? >> speaker boehner and house republicans always have said we would like to cut red tape and we would like to cut governmenting spending. that's one of the main problems

the president has. his policies are full of government spending and it doesn't seem to stimulate the economy. >> this report finds the immigration bill would cut the deficit $200 billion the next 10 years and another you 700,000 in the subsequent 10 years. can we afford not to pass the immigration form. >> house republicans are working on this issue. it's asking that you aou say that the president had an opportunity to 2009 and 2010 to do immigration reform. he would have done eupl graze but instead there were millions on the national mall screaming and the president ignored their cries. that was a key opportunity for him to do that. >> it is front and center and on

the table. isn't the gop and the house stopping immigration reform? >> i don't think so. we have representatives working on the bill. we have the gang of seven, who is working on a bipartisan will. they are saying this is what we stand for. republicans are leading on this issue. i reject that premise at work. we are being careful, addressing all the issues the american people want. how do we make sure we track the people that are here and make sure there's a legal way to earn legalization. >> thanks for weighing in there. >> thanks so much. >> hispanic media for the rnc. >> co-host star jones spent time in her office for professional women this week where she

knitted her many hats. star shares her opinions. so this week i asked about new york mayor candidate anthony weiner. >> what's in the papers these last couple of days is shocking to the system. i shouldn't know about my mayoral's sexual fantasy life p. i have never seen so much arrogance. even with this lack of judgment you could be the mayor of the largest city in the united states of america and carry the weight we need through the next fiscal crisis, the infrastructure that needs to be

rebuilt. all the issues new yorkers need to face, we have this guy who has so little judges regard for anything truthful. running for mayor? come on. >> ultimately, he's lost everyone's truflt. how can we rebuild that? >> he's sort of playing off his wife, which as a woman i resent. he's using the goodwill his wife has built up over the years, because of her professionalism and her excellence. and just her style and ability to maneuver in and out of politics and media as a woman and a a professional. i admire that. at some point a woman has to say i respect myself more. and she may have forgiven him. but how do you stand next to someone who does not have the judgment to respect his family, to respect his office, and to respect the role he wants to play for his city? that, i have a problem with.

>> nine years ace co-host on the view. how was that? >> eight years were fabulous. one year was pretty crappy. it's very difficult in this business and to have and keep it for nine years. and i loved every minute of being at the view. i'm being a little factious. they're my family. they will always be my family. and sometimes we may be dysfunctional but we're still family, nonetheless. >> during the first eight years, who did you get along with the best and whom the worst? >> well, i got along very well with meredith. i still do now. we work together a lot at nbc when i see her when she comes in. i actually got along with with everybody. i didn't have any negative feelings, and i still don't.

leaving the view was very uncomfortable. i was not happy with the way that happened. i'm never happy with whenever a woman is not treated with the dignity and the respect and the professionalism i think she has earned at her job situation. >> what about celebrity apprentice, what was that like? >> it gave me truth the opportunity that for the first time, pump and media platform for my purpose. and my purpose was to move heart health and heart disease to the front burner. and i got to do that every single week. i got to emphasize. and i was playing for heart disease. i was playing for heart health. i got to show people what it looked like with my stamina, with my aggressiveness.

and i earned so much money for the american heart association. so i got to do exactly what i wanted to do. i will forever be grateful to nbc for that opportunity. it was in fact, the craziest time of my life. >> really? >> nuts. those people were nuts. >> more of our conversation at 12:00 noon. we'll talk the george zimmerman trial and improved race relations from this country. juror b-29, why change her mind on the verdict? hey linda!

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to say to yourself, we cannot let this happen to anybody else's child. of course that's sybrina fulton, mother of trayvon martin, speaking to the national urban league in philadelphia. this after the final juror that found her son's juror not guilty dropped quite a bombshell on which she said george zimmerman got away with murder. this is juror b-29 that goes by the name maddie. >> george zimmerman got away with murder. but you can't get away from god. and at the end of the day he's going to have a lot of questions and answers that he has to deal with. the law couldn't prove it. we just have to believe in the lord that he's, if he's asked to pay he will pay. >> and she says she stands by the not verdict. joining me now is criminal

defense attorney. good morning and welcome to you, sema. she seems to be going over the same thing again. let's play another clip. >> for myself, he's guilty. because the evidence shows he's guilty. >> he's guilty of? >> killing trayvon martin. but we couldn't prove that intentionally he killed him. >> i know i went the right way because the law, the way it was followed is the way i went. but tpeultd have used my heart i probably would have went hung jury. >> so for some that's going to seem very contradictory. interpret what she's saying. do you agree there's a difference between what your heart wants and what the law tells you to do. >> i think there's no polygraph in that jury room so go with your heart. no one would have challenged her verdict.

i don't understand why she chose, and i say chose, to interpret the law the way she has been doing. right now this interview that she's giving is just to essuage the public and the parents and justify this contradictory verdict, as you say. she makes very confounding statements, right? she says in the clip that you just played, she says he's guilty. she said there is evidence. but then they questions the law. she had every opportunity to ask the judge to explain and expound, and she did not. and neither did the other jurors. >> even beyond the judge, do you see this as more of a problem of the way the law is written or the way the prosecution presented its case? >> both. the law is incredibly confusing. the instructions have double negatives and words that even we don't understand as lawyers. but it is the job of both the

prosecution and the defense to explain the jury instructions. now here's the rule. you cannot instruct the jury during your summations on the law. you can't tell them what the la law is. if you recall mark o'mara did this thermostat and he had had this big billboard and showed different degrees of reasonable doubt and how you get to not guilty. that's my point. you have to explain what reasonable doubt is. you have to explain the different definitions. she's saying, she is saying she had an issue with this intent n intentional act. if the lawyers just explained that zimmerman shot the gun, everybody is conceding that. that is an intentional act. there would not be this confusion. >> it is confusing. there is no doubt. thus the discussion we continue having with you.

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credit rating agency moody's says detroit bankruptcy filing could prompt other cities to follow suit if the motor city can cut pension obligations. since 2010 eight municipalities declared bankruptcy as it deals with a large budget deficit. joining me now is mayor of rhode island and mayor fontane, thank you for joining me. can you explain what your financial crisis is. >> brought on a number of cuts from state funding over the last few years compounded with pension costs and health insurance costs similar to many communities that are facing problems throughout our state and throughout our country. >> i understand you said last year that bankruptcy is on the table for you. are you any closer now?

>> i would say, no, we actually have done a pretty decent job on putting together a reasonable five-year plan that addresses all the concerns we have and hopefully after the end of the five years will put us on a solid footing and avoid cobank kaeps all costs. i think all the communities that are falling into communities are a wake-up call call for states like rhode island and the country as a whole. we have to start looking at this because pushing the problem down to the cities and towns where it most affects the people and their day-to-day lives isn't the answer. i think there needs to be a more overall look at the bankruptcy and how to help cities and towns and i don't see that happening as much as it should be.

>> one thing that has been a huge problem for detroit is the negotiating over the pensions and all retiree benefits. this is something you have been negotiating with your own unions. are pensions and unions still viable in the modern economy? >> you know, i think that there's a change that needs to take place. we can no longer afford the same thing that we did and these contracts and promises that were made years and decades ago are all coming home to cities like us now. when we negotiate and we have been active and unions have been very cooperative and we reached an agreement with a majority of them at this point. at the same point, we're talking with retiree groups and we are hoping we're positive with them and, obviously, not everybody is happy with this. we are doing everything we can to lessen the burden but clearly things have to change within those areas. >> we'll keep an eye on things from your perspective.

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