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won't be last. >> being called the most draconian voter suppression effort in the country. >> we act as if racial profiling isn't an issue. >> there is an overwhelming chance that the victim manyiis to be white and the criminal will be black. >> michigan governor rick snyder to put detroit through bankruptcy. >> signs of decay and neglect are everywhere. >> federal ballot off the table. >> i think they will have to work with creditors on this. we begin with a major

rights? voting this week. republicans protested democrats rejoice. but to see the big picture, it goes beyond today's politics. you have to look at an intense battle over civil rights in courts. a battle playing off stage and off camera the last several years. long before john roberts was in charge of the supreme court he was working in the trenches of the conservative legal movement in in the early '80s, he advocated against the act and voted to protect against discrimination was quote the most intrusive interference imaginable by federal courts and to state and local processes. now think about that. that put roberts to the right of the reagan ref flues. after all, president reagan signed off on that interference in 1992. years later roberts took his agenda on to the court where he strongly, incrementally but

knocked down key civil rights pro techs. in 2007 fn he limited how schools can use diversity to integrate classrooms. that opinion also laid down a false premise that conservatives have been embracing. the idea which programs use race to level the playing field are as legally objectionable as as the rules used to people on the basis of rate race. this a very real sense, it was equal to the very diversity programs we used to. roberts wrote that quote way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race. now let's fast forward. he was on the losing side and of course the voting rights act. they knocked down two parts of the law. sections four and five you probably heard about. those sections used to create a list of local governments that

would have to be cleared in advance before they can change any eloeker to yl rules. those parts are dead unless congress updates them. the rest of the law, however, remains in tact. that's important. that includes sections that allow the courts to add a similar kind of supervision for local government. the remaining part of the law is less strict. so instead of using that list of discriminatory areas, the doj has to ask courts to add new local governments that are discriminating. one at a time. so if the attorney general sees discrimination in say alabama or north carolina with, he can ask the courts to add that state to this list for extra voter super vision. north caroline why, as you know, is currently pushing the harshest voting crack down in the country. so they may be asking for time in the penalty box. that leads us to the question this week, why did the attorney general start with texas? well, i would argue it's because holder knows the courts have found evidence of discrimination there. here, for example, is a ruling

from three federal judges last year and that includes george w. bush appointee. they found quote the voter id rule imposes strict unburdened on the poor and they are disproportionatly to live in poverty. in a new interview, and i thought it was interesting, liberal justice ru says that's need the contract. because with or without congress, he is just getting started. >> our departments first action to protect voting rights following the shelby county decision but it'll not be our last. even as congress considers updates to the voting rights act in light of the court ear rule

weg plan, in the meantime, to fully utilize the laws remaining sections to insure that the voting rights of all-american citizens are protected. >> all right. let's bring in our guest, judge id brown and matt miller, former aide to eric holder. matt, i want to get right to pup where what exactly is the attorney general doing and where do we go from here? is this just texas? >> no. i i he is sending a clear signal. the main tools the justice department has, they still do have some tools and in the absence of congress acting and congress does need to act, they'll use what they have. you saw them start with texas. and i think they started with texas because there is a record here as you indicated. they have shown in court that texas has a pattern of recently discriminating. but i don't think they will end here. i think north carolina is likely

to withdraw challenge. i think texas which passed discriminatory voter id law several years ago, i think that the next challenge. probably the next several weeks. >> and he is picking up on something a conversation below the mainstream discussion here where a lot of talk was about voter id and legislators. basically, the doj should use section three, use this part of the law we are talking about as a shock that with push the courts to evaluate intentional discrimination and build efd of ongoing uncons fusional state conduct that could justify the law fwing forward. is that the attorney generals decided here, who say we need to use the rest of the law aggressively were on to something several years ago. >>. >> that's absolutely right. the attorney general when he announced the suit said in addition to bringing the suit, he shifted resources inside civil rights division so that they are now focusing on

bringing suites under this remaining section and under other laws. so i think you'll see a movement now going forward. o do whatever they can under section three. now again, as you pointed out, the section three, that doesn't have the same teeth that part of the court struck down had. so the ability of the justice department to block discriminatory laws, isn't what it used to be. hopefully congress can come in and reinforce what's been struck down. >> judith, walk us how we get through what eric holder is doing here. with powers that he has to this debate back in congress where people, including a couple republicans are saying we need to renew the law. >> right. well, section 3 is an underutilized part of the voting rights act. he hasn't gone, the attorney general hasn't gone beyond the bound of the law. he is doing his job. he is being aggressive and

enhorsing the law. but what we need is also the fix by congress because the thing that we lost with what the court did in the shelby county case is because we lost a provision that allows us to stop discrimination before it happen possess. which is important in the voting context because of course an election can happen. the outcome could be something that it shouldn't have been but for discrimination. and you can't good back and change it. courts haven't decided oh, let's, you know, unseat the incumbent because of the fact there was discrimination. so we need that provision and we are looking to congress to fix it. but in the meantime, the attorney general and civil rights organizations will enforce the provisions that we still have. >> and what has come up in criticism of justice roberts opinion, in the criminal context for regular americans, regular defendants, we hear about three strikes and you're out, we hear about your prior record held against you. and really what the voting right

act did was apply a similar record evidence to states and local governments that if they continue to discriminate, continue to say if black people don't have the same right to get to the ballot box, that would be dealt with in advance and dealt with based on discrimination. i want your sponts on that point to criticism from judge posener who was a very prominent conservative judge who looked a tht ruling that we got last month which i think some of us are still digesting and says the reasons congress has for treating some states differently, for purposes of the voting right acts are arbitrary and voting continues an rebutting the conservative argument made by roberts says there is no doctrine of equal sovereignty. the opinion rest on air. that is pretty strong judge on judge criticism, if you will. what did you make of it? >> i mean, you know, we know we

have a country where there shouldn't be discriminatory voting. judge roberts, you started off talking about his history. where did he come from? and this is why it is so important who get nominated to the supreme court. because he came to the court with an agenda. >> exactly. >> he came to the court with an agenda to undermine civil rights laws that are on the books. to undo what we have accomplished in this country. and so it is not just voting. it is affirmative action. we will see a fair housings case go up to the supreme court that may undo, and we can show that discrimination curse. it is important to know where the nominees are coming from and what their agenda is and unfortunately, you know, in this case, they have the majority right now. but that's okay. we have a department of justice and civil rights groups that will continue to enforce the law. and i think judge posener is right that we -- you know, we

can't allow a court, a run away supreme court to undermine the progress that we have made. >> yeah. you mentioned the housing context we will see next term where you have some conservatives saying we shouldn't use data on racial discrimination to basically patrol racism under the fair housing act even though all of the lower courts that looked a at it have said that good way it defend people. we will keep an eye on that. i want to go matt to you with the last word here. a big part of this, and the reason i think it upset so many people, is the question of whether we are a functional democracy. you go to school and you learn about america as this great beacon of democracy. we have so much to be proud of when you look at it historically and setting certain precedence. aep for the same time, we were were an apartheid democracy. so matt, as you look ahead on what the doj can do even without congress, what is your outlook here? and what should people take from

the attorney general's rather strong leadership this week? >> you know, i think they will use every tool they have but they are limited. pt best thing they can get is if you look at history of discrimination, like texas. i'm from texas and it gives me great pain that we have now become the poster child for writing discrimination into the law, but that is what courts have found on several occasions. so to to put texas back into the penalty box and put earth states back into the penalty box was in the actress of congress acting, where there is a real pat enof recent discrimination, that's what happened here, ongoing recent discrimination. if the court gifts the laws m advance to block them before elections and not after damage has been done, that's the best

possible outcome we can hope for. >> all right, thank you both. next up from your right to vote, to your right to walk down the street without being pro filed or stopped or frisked, we have on the program democratic senator who says it is time for national ban on racial profile ppg that's up next. until you consider that we don't know which.0009 of 1%, we have to be scared of all of them. folks, it is the same reason. folks, this doctor -- i want to make things more secure.

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walking across the street and hearing the locks click on the doors of cars. that happens to me. >> raised without much structure. young black men often rejectedcation and gravitate towards the street culture, drugs, hustling, gangs. >> trayvon martin could have been me. 35 years ago. >> bill o'reilly sparked quite a debate this week by endorsing his of racial profiling. the message is worth confront g confronting. when people say an unarmed teenager looks suspicious and deserves harsh treatment they are talking about racial profile ppg if that sounds wrong, okay. but we should remember it is not

necessarily illegal. there is no law against racial profiling and only about half the states have statues even related to it. plus many state laws are pretty toothless. only a few provide specific penalties for police who profile. illinois is one of the states that gathers data on racial disparity. the state's bipartisan racial profiling law was coauthored by this man. >> when i was in illinois, i passed racial profiling legislation. initially, the police departments across the state were resistant but actually they came to recognize that if it was done in a fair straight forward way that it would allow them to do their jobs better and communities would have more confidence and then in turn be more helpful. >> when obama first came to the u.s. senate, we backed a ban on racial profiling. one of his colleagues has been working years on that legislation. ben cardin is proposing

outlawing profiling at the federal level with the end racial profiling act. thank you for being here. >> my pleasure. >> you probably run into folks who are surprised that this isn't already against federal law. >> you're exactly right. i think most people think it is. but it is not, as you point out. it is not only against values of our nation. as president obama said, it is a waste of resources. it doesn't add to good police work. and it alienates communities that you need cooperation with that are more likely ton cooperate with police as a result of racial profile ppg for something that should end, unfortunately we don't have a law against it as we saw in the zimmerman case. the jury spoke as to the criminal responsibility but clearly, trayvon martin was a victim of racial profiling. that needs to stop and there needs to be clear laws in the country to make it clear that you can't use that. >> senator, what does your bill

do? >> it prevent you from starting an investigation, picking up potential people for investigations solely because of race. now i want it make it clear what it doesn't do. if you know after particular crime and there's demographic as to who the perpetrator was, that information can certainly be used. but you can't though do is indiscriminately go after someone because of race, religion, ethnic background. as has been pointed out, routine traffic stops are much more likely to be minorities. >> in snork city you have mayor bloomberg praised by a lot of people across the spectrum on issues, including gun safety. yet he is overseeing a program that stops and fris manies a half million new yorkers every year. a vast majority innocent and

vast majority african-american or listen to his defense. >> they keep saying, oh, it is a disportionate percentage after particularening nick group. that may be, but it is not a disportionate number in victims describe as committing murder. in that case i incidentally i think we stop whites too much and minorities too little. >> there you say white should be stopped less than the 15% or so they are stopped currently. what do you make of that and how do local leaders like that, how does their leadership and those kind of comments affect the type of been that you want it put in place? >> i think where the mayor is just wrong. if you have information about a specific crime, absolutely. the demographics of that circumstance should absolutely be used but just to say that

because we think one race or one religion is more likely to commit crimes, we will stop them for investigation, no. that is not permitted. it is sloppy police work. it won't get you the information you need and it alienates community. you are using scarce resources in an inefficient way. and it is against the values of our country. so right after the trayvon martin episode occurred, i held a meeting in my -- in baltimore. i talked to people about rarnl profiling. and talked to so many people who have been victimized. i think president obama is right. if you're african-american male, at some point in your life you have been victimized. you have been subject to an indiscriminate inconvenience, maybe even detention, when there was no information about a specific crime. that's got to stop. >> senator, how do we move from what you are talking about, in

confronting issues, talking about the president's remarks that i think did do a bit of a reset for part of the country. have you about 15 co-sponsors, including harry reid, how do you get action on your bill, in the senate and beyond? >> we got some action, not enough. we need a stronger provision on it. but we are trying to first have a clear definition of racial profiling so people know what it is and what it's not. provide resources so that law enforcement adequately trained and then share best practices. we think that's not so intimidating local governments if we do this in a way that we try to share best practices and try to help them use their scarce resources more efishn eefficiently where they can get more cooperation it local communities. we are trying to do this in a by and yes we are seeking

republicans and democrats to work with us to enacts federal law. just might point out one more thing. >> sure. >> prior to 9/11 we were close to passing this law in the congress of the united states. a lot changed since 9/11. i think now the public understands particularly what happened with trayvon martin but they do understand that the racial profiling is not what this nation is about. and i think we can get the type of legislative support to get this done. >> i appreciate you spending time with us. we've got go but you mention 2001 terror attacks when we were prepping for this discussion and looking back at president bush speaking out against racial profiling even then. politics of 9/11. probably set a lot of this backwards. appreciate you have been working on this for years and spending time with us today. >> thank you very much. >> now coming up, solutions for getting detroit back on its feet. yes, things that could be tried. imagine that. please stay with us. ♪

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can you put this down on a picasso? >> right. >> it will take a lot more than stephen colbert's donation to get the city out of the hole. city has $18 billion in debt. that is $27,000 per resident. hard to say and hard to imagine. now as detroit's bankruptcy was announced, senate republicans did propose some measures. they want to bar the federal government from adding any default municipality to any federal aid. in michigan republican governor rick snyder says there is no money to help detroit payity debt. however they could finance a hockey arena for the red wings. what does that say about the state's priority? do whatever you can to keep your sports team from leaving down but when it comes to hospitals or pensions are people of detroit being left out on their own? president of the rainbow push coalition and steven henderson,

from "the detroit free press," who we just saw in that stephen colbert report. what is your reaction to that we can somehow understand the crisis of lavish spending on pensions? >> we really globalize capital without globalizing workers rights so most content under the hood of the cars, is made from out of the country. so you bring in cheaper made. so if you globe ylize workers rights, and go a step further, and bailout gm, market for buick is china, so globalizationgloba there is no reinvestment in the bailout. >> right. steve, let me bring you in on that point. you look at other investments and we have to be careful how we

describe it. the federal government spent a lot of money, some handed out to folks in the banks, some of it invested and got a return. look at aig has up with example where you saw $182 billion go out and come back to the government at $205 billion. do you think there's a role here for the government, to buy up property in detroit, spend an investment that it might get back later? >> i think that the investment word is the right word here. we don't need a bailout in detroit. the bankruptcy is an effort to restructure our debt. get us out from the burdens we are caring. we will need help retooling the setty. rebuilding the city. tearing down structures. we have 70,000, i think, abandoned home in detroit. we have a lot of people out of work. the federal government could help put those people to work tearing down those houses. schools need reinvestment here.

detroit is the most significant international crossing between chicago and montreal. there is a lot in terms of trade and logistics. government investment in those things would pay back i think significantly and that's the argument to do it. >> yeah. reverend jackson. >> we once determined that detroit, motor production and truck production was key to our national security. so we were sensitive to global trade and global imbalance. now you have 80,000 vacant homes and abandoned lots. they made money off the bailout and made money from private morgan insurance. if in fact half of those houses were rebuilt, retro fitted, brick masons and painters, you could put much back rebuilding by what has been destroyed by the bank forclosure scheme.

>> steve, we have seen this entire conversation become a political prop. there are channels seeming to love this story. dh is pretty sick, if you think about it. i want it play with you one comment i'm sure you're familiar with from fox news. >> -- living on the south side of the 8 mile road, what destroyed their city? they will tell you narcotics. they know addition leads to crime. >> part one is i will stand up and say i don't think bill o'reilly knows much about 8 mile road or detroit. i've spent a little time there and my mom went to mumford in detroit. but that part one. part two is, if what we have on our hand is an investment challenge and an economic opportunity challenge, why are so many national commentators looking to focus on things like the drug epidemic?

>> i'm sorry. the anchor-based reestablished in detroit for example. you also have your police, teachers and firemen who live in the suburbs. so the industry from cheap labor markets, then take out the tax base, detroit has been picked apart. >> steven, stoleup on that? >> one of the things that is true is that we have caused a lot of our own problems here in detroit with bad decisions. bad decision making. but we have also add lot of help. the disinvestment at state level, disenvestment at national level, over 60 years, helped decelerate. the conservatives networks are loving this i think because what they want to say is this is the result of some sort of liberal

policy. that true inside the city that has been run by dem krts for a very long time. but republicans at the state level and national level who disinvested in detroit and lot of other places over the last half century. >> and that goes to the the international factor as well. there are corruption standals that are democrats. i don't think anyone is seeking to pretend otherwise but the motion that because of nast why, a failure of liberalism, is concerning seems weird, obviously politicized. steven, let's talk about another piece of this has has a lot of attention. the idea to take culture yl heritage in the institute of art and sell it off to the highest bidder p. what do you make of that? >> it is just not the point after municipal buankruptcy. the whole scheme is to get the city through bankruptcy and restructure the death without stripping it for spare parts.

>> it is to allow the city to thrive. that thriving city needs that art museum to bring it back and be the cultural center to michigan, which we still are. it makes no sense. besides which, the truth is, you could tell everything in the art museum and the building it self and not come up with the total amount of money we owe anyway. not even close. >> reverend? >> and for example, thousands of youth this summer buzz we cut some grant. others couldn't go back it school because of parent plus loans. their debt was more than credit card debt. there is long-term lack toward

of planning. and the reindustrialization, with a bigger, grander, plan. when new york faced bankruptcy, we didn't assault the new york art museum. when banks collapsed, we did not replace the emergency manager. we looked for reinvestment and redevelopment. >> i want your response to some new remarks we have from president obama where he talks about the widening economic gel and raises the idea that some may not welcome and yet that we know throughout history has been a problem. obviously on topic, will potentially raise more racial tension and led that things aren't getting better. speak for a moment, if you will, on what it means it have the

president speak to that directly and how that fit into any action for detroit that might actually come from washington. >> the 50 years in detroit for civil rights and whites and blacks from gotten closer. but the gap between more and more have less and less. and few and fewer have more and more. the polarizing gap of disparity and healthcare, education, affordable housing and access to capital. and that gap is because i hope that he will lock at the lindon johnson plan. some plan for massive reinvestment, reconstruction and reendustization. and smart enough to open up that campaign in appalachia. this is not just about black and white. this is about the fewer and fewer with more and more and more and more who have less and less.

>> so the reverend remarks do match lbj but the march on washington was explicitly not only about racial justice which is how it is often remembers in speeches but about economic justice for all. >> yeah. the first part of dr. king's speech was about the growing impact and greing justice of poverty and that is a story that plays out everyday here in detroit. beside the municipal government problems we have, we have a completely collapsed economy where the city is poor, suburbs are wealthier and wealth year. i think we got to reverse that and try to spread things out more evenly so cities like detroit don't get into this situation.

>> yeah and something people should be folk yutsed on. thanks for spending time with us sunday. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> next up, the president makes that new comment on race that i mentioned. i think it will turn bill o'reilly's face even redder. we will talk about it up next. >> threatening that you won't pay the bills in this country, when we've already racked up those bills, that's not an economic plan. you know, that's just being a dead beat. . no-charge scheduled maintenance. check. and here's the kicker... 0% apr for 60 months. and who got it? this guy. and who got it? this guy. and who got it? this guy. that's right... [ male announcer ] it's the car you won't stop talking about. ever. hurry in to the volkswagen best. thing. ever. event. and get 0% apr for 60 months, now until july 31st. that's the power of german engineering.

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obama went on offense on this week's economic addresses, you have to hear him in a ne interview in the new york times. the president some republicans are reckless on the economy and clueless in the owe economy. . professor, you write about democracy, civil right and gender studies. thanks for being here. >> thank you. >> let's start with a criticize levelled repeat lid at the president that on various issues, this time on the employer mandate. he didn't have the authority to take action. take a listen. >> some of those folks think i usurp my authority by having the gal to win the presidency, i'm not concerned about their

opinions, very view of them or lawyers, constitutional lawyers. most of the country someone is saying someone is not a lawyer, a constitutional lawyer, doesn't amount to much. but this is more because it is saying, you know not what you speak without the authority. >> yeah it is important for obama. he is trying to reshape the narrative. he going on the offense and putting them back on the defense. he is trying to -- a fight with republicans and it is the anniversary of the march on washington. >> right. >> so this historical and present day -- let's me go to glenn for a second. glenn, i want to bring you in on a point he makes for austerity on a test case for house republican policies. a lot of european countries follow the prescription that house republicans are calling for right now. in many cases their debt and their deficits have actually gone up. what do you make of that?

>> it's been a long time. we haven't heard him talk like this. people like mike in his administration have been saying in a long time. it is clearly in terms of imper cal data to bolster the president's opinion. it is strong argument. you were talking earlier about how tough he was and how much he talked about urban america. i don't think he is dipping into that as deeply as he could. my question to the president and white house is when are you going to detroit? and he didn't even mention detroit in this very lengthy interview with the new york times yesterday. >> i think that is a fair point. let's get right to the comments we mentioned earlier this talking to some people in detroit. take a listen to this. >> racial tensions won't get better. they get worse. because people will feel as if

they've got compete with some other group. to get scraps from a shrinking pot. if the economy is growing, everybody feels invincible. >> i want to get salamisha to weigh in on that. could you hear any of that? >> yeah. we were talking about the march on washington and rights for freedom. i think in talking with racial prejudice -- he is right to point to that own to bring in the trayvon martin or george zimmerman verdict as part of his narrative about racial inequality and income inequality in the out. we were just talking about detroit being the hot bed of economic inequality. right now low wage workers from seattle, new york and detroit be

organizing one-day strikes to raise minimum wages. i want to include them in this conversation as we talk about obama addressing this stuff that works are fighting for their rights own jobs and freedom. >> and glenn that does resonate np ap is reporting that 80% of residents struggle with poverty at some point in their lives. >> you mean poverty for himself? it is interesting we are talking about mlk and at the end of his life if april of 1968 he was in memphis to support the sanitation workers on their strike. let's not forget that. this president, by the way, vowed during the campaign to wear out his shoes on the pickett loin and was less forceful in the office. i think the issue with the president again is he speaks as most democrats do and it is wise choice to speak in terms of the middle class. he san guy who has addressed

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