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>> ask not for who the bells toll, senator. they toll for you. >> obama care is unfair, unworkable, unaffordable. >> i'm hopeful that in august house republicans will listen to the customer. >> government doesn't create jobs. >> the private sector does. >> you haven't passed a farm bill. you've only passed 4 of the 12 appropriations bills you're supposed to pass. >> what we need to have happen is leadership on the part of this president. >> as we begin this afternoon president obama returns to the white house. intelligence officials continue to monitor the terrorist threat,

that closed around the country. news of the threat dominated talk shows which meant that gopers got to talk about security issues instead of the many questions being asked about the strive within their party. that is except for eric cantor who faced a serious grilling from chris wallace on fox news. >> congressman, rightly or wrongly, none of these bills that you passed with going to become law. your own members say they won't pass the senate. the president won't sign them. let's talk reality. you haven't passed a farm bill. you have only passed four of the 12 appropriations bills you're supposed to pass. we face a government shut down and debt limit in the fall again, is tht best way to spend your time passing bills that aren't going to become law. and that in question, with so much unfinished business, why not stick around instead of take a five-week vacation. >> good question.

when congress headed home for its august recess, it was the least productive congress since they started taki keeping track. >> there are a lot of republican politicians that like to say they are opposed to obama care. they like it cast empty symbolic votes. >> oh i think it is a silly effort. >> if senator paul wants it look at where he will cut spending to afford defense, maybe he should look at cutting the pork barrel spending he brings home to kentucky. >> this is the king of bacon talking about bacon. >> i haven't been afraid to step out and take on my own party. >> let me be clear. i don't trust the republicans. >> hawks and doves are battling it out. routine votes are falling apart and some junior senators are not making it easy for mitch mcconnell. jonathan capehart, maria kumar, thank you. jonathan, i want it start with

you. in asking a very fair question to mr. cantor. we know there are a lot of town halls, packets, everybody is ready to go. but are they prepared it hear that kind of frustration from their own people? >> you know, i don't know. because remember, a lot of folks, particularly the ones in the house, they come from districts. particularly the freshman. they come from districts with voters who sent them to washington to stop things. repeal obama care. stop spending. cut the spending. do the sequester. so for a lot of those folks, going home an saying, look i voted 40 times to repeal obama care, that works just fine. but in sort of the reality based community, the rest of the country that wants something done, it is not going to be -- it is not good and for those members of congress and those in the senate in purple districts and purple states, they are the ones who will have a lot to answer for. >> i think that's right. and perry, let's talk about

kentucky. i know you were at fancy farm yesterday. and this is sort of an interesting race here because wove got mitch mcconnell has a tea party challenger, so he has kind of got this -- he has it satisfy the far right. knowing then he will have a democratic challenger and one of the things to the point, jonathan is making, how are we going to -- mitch mcconnell while trying to negotiate those d dynamics, he also got things in line in the debt ceiling last fall. i don't think we can count on him this time. >> it'll be harder this time. and fancy farm, matt bevin, mcconnell's tea party challenger, said quote mcconnell needed to be a man and join the rest of the republicans in trying to block any kind of government funding that does not also defund obama care. that's why you are now. mcconnell is interested and he takes pride in leading the senate republicans. he doesn't want to be like

bainer who is drug along at times. he takes pride in being the person making the deal. mcconnell is in a mind because the mike lees, marco rubios, ted cruz's of the world are pushing hard as is now matthew bevin. this basic message that mcconnell should no longer be involved in any kind of bills that work. like keeping the house moving. they want him to be part of the blocking things club and be not really governing or working with joe biden. that's big tension right now for him. >> ted cruz and company from that tea party group that you just mentioned, they have not formally endorsed senator mcconnell now that bevins is in the race. you know, to that point, maria, we used to make fun of the house because we said, you know, all those tea partiers and boehner, he can't seem to control his people, but it kind of seems like that brand of crazy is starting to find its way into the senate.

>> very much so. but the difference between senate and house is that senate realizes it still does need to be legislated. they did pass the farm bill and sent it back to the house. same thing with the budget and with immigration. it is still very much on the house site to learn how to legislate and recognizing their role in order to not just make sure they continue working but also because they realize they may have a shot at regaining the senate in 2014. and more importantly a shot at white house. that's not the dysfunction right now, seeping through the republican party on the house side, doesn't just past mustard. and is the house satisfied controlling the republican side or do they want the big gem, the white house. but mcconnell, one of the problems with his race is that his platform is a referendum on obama care and both candidates in the race on the democratic side and the guy in the primary, they make a referendum all about him. >> also to this point about

obama care, we also know that within the republican caucus there are very different ideas about the house will just keep voting to repeal it. pointlessly. >> right. >> but then you've got ted cruz saying shut down the government over it, if we have to. so then others in the republican party saying that's a stupid idea and now mitch mccon al is told to be a man. that just does not bode -- it is funny now. but that doesn't bode well. in five weeks when they come back and we have to have in negotiation and the rest of us are on the hook to act like adults, what's going to happen? >> here is what is going to happen. the house and senate, they will throw y throw their temper tantrum and come up with a white house and president who went up in 2011 for real survived looking over the edge and to the abyss and decided, we are never doing that again. if you want to shut down the government, go ahead and you will take your lumps.

but i'm not negotiating over the debt ceiling which is a completely separate thing. if that's what senator cruz wants to do, fantastic. but the other problem the republicans have is, fine, so what happens after you somehow my rairaculously repeal obama c. it sim pliimplemented as we spe. >> that's why even the strategy all along with regard to obama care that the more people are into, get into the system and feel the benefits, the harder it will be for the republican message of just repealing it without some kind of replace -- it used to be repeal and replace and now they are not talking about that. i wonder the dynamics for mcconnell specifically if he is told to be a man, and you know you've got ted cruz, willing to shut down the government and he is leading that tea party caucus in the senate, it just seems like we don't have the same kind of ability to negotiate and actually stop the madness. >> so if you hear mcconnell,

what he is trying to do and i heard him speak to republican event here, he tries to make the case that republicans should take a long termg view about this. instead of saying we will defund obama care next week, republicans try it win control in senate 2014 and win the presidency in 2016 then go about this. but that gets to the point you just made, karen. by to 17, obama care is the law of the land for sure. more and more like medicare. more and more like medicaid. things people accept as being part of the government structure country now. it will be hard it repeal obama care by 2017. with kinks being worked out, are being worked out, people get benefits, subsidy is working, that becomes a challenge. the republicans want to make this the center of your agenda. when the law is working now and in place now. >> exactly. >> that's one of the issues we know that president obama and the number of outside groups are focused on over the next five

weeks. the other issue, maria, is immigration reform. chris wallace asking cantor about immigration reform. here is his response. well take a listen. >> we have not made any announcements as to the schedule yet as to how this will come forward. what i can tell you, chris, is we said we are not going to be bringing the senate bill up. >> i've been very active in promoting what i'm calling a kids bill. it is not -- it says that you aught not hold kids liable for illegal acts of their parents. >> maria, my understanding of the kids bill is basically you say it kids, we're not going to hold you responsible, we're just going to send your parents back so you're on your own. >> not very kid friendly at all. this is very serious. the supreme court just passed marriage equality in the united states it impacted millions of families around the country where they believe in the idea of coming out of the shadows and basically being able to mare ry

the one you love, depending on the states. the idea that the kids act says kids can stay but parents have to go, that's not kid friendly policy. that doesn't make any sense. >> that is breaking up families. i thought they were the party of family values be right? >> right. that's the distress. more than likely it will become october, they are only working nine days in september, so the immigration bill will be talked about in october. but in separate bills and hopefully reconciled during conference. that's the best we can hope for now. >> all right. so just switching gears, i think i want to get that gig where congress only nine days in september. good job, right? goodness gracious. last question to you, jonathan, a certain irony, sort of this morning sort of looking at talk shows and looking -- having this terror threat, and yet we have this issue with edward snowden. he is going to become russian

for a year. learn russian, get a russian job. do we need programs, do we not need the programs. some might say, it is being beefed up, just in order to help make the case for the programs. >> look, i think the terror threat is real. the president, of yemen, if i remember correctly, had meetings with the president this week. on the terror threat assessment. went out to embassies and they are closed down today. there is a story if the paper today that interpole, international police put out a report saying, we had some terrorists break out of prisons around the world. that's coming the day after the big announcement from the united states. so anyone who tries to say that you know, the federal government is trying to play fast and loose with terror threats, to skirt the conversation away from the nsa programs, is bananas. >> all right.

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today northern africa and the middle east, nearly two dozen consulates are closed after picking up chatter of a quote, significant event. we don't know if that means once or several simultaneous attacks. this morning ranking

intelligence committee called it reminiscence of information from the september 11th attacks. americans are on a global terror alert through the end of the month. the executive director of national security, heather, thanks for joining me. >> good to be here, karen. >> we heard the risk. we know we had shut downs, how does the government make the assessment in terms of what to do for tomorrow an say the next day? do we expect to see more embassies and cons late closed? how do they make that decision? >> well, they are going to look back at the original information, whatever caused them to do and have e-mail traffic, lots of the electronic communications we have been talking about and other context and see what their response is and frankly where u.s. intelligence, other intelligence, law enforcement

around the world has folks cells that they are keeping an eye on. they will be saying, is everyone accounted for. did anyone disappear over the weekend. are there movements we don't understand. or in fact, part of the reason you make this kind of information public is to try to break off a lot. and encourage involved in it to go to ground and not carry it through. the assessment will be, did that happen, or in the extra, what is it 48 or 72 hours, did you pinpoint more about what just happened. >> michael chernoff said that it is further and then it is said that there isn't enough done in fighting islam. now we are talking about a whole network of al qaeda affiliated groups and sometimes that gets lumped together when it shouldn't. >> thanks.

when you get to the sun day shos you are talking about terrorism to a political conversation about terrorism. >> no. >> let's just remind ourselves that those are two different things. >> right. >> on substance, we talk about al qaeda central, which headquarters are somewhere in the afghan pakistan borders lands which sifrd badly since it was first isolated. and then bin laden was assassinated. and which frankly hasn't in recent years shown the ability to threaten the continental united states. it has shown the ability to hurt american service people, american interest in afghanistan, hurt a lot of afghans and pakistanis. to have this loose franchise relationship with terror groups other places that either see themselves as actual allies of al qaeda or using the label because they think it signifies something. so the group in yemen, that we think is where the threat comes

from, is its own group with its own interest that seem to be more yemen, more arabian peninsula focused and less interested in the kind of global aims that bin laden had. so con flighting the two is really, either lazy or cynical. >> thank you heather. we will, of course, bring you any news on this story as it develops. now actions have consequences and in some southern states, those actions could actually help democrats turn things around. that's coming up. >> take every crazy angry idea your drunk white wing uncle mumbles at thanksgiving, turn it no a law, and that's north carolina today. b. a? that's a great choice. let me show you some faucets to go along with that. with the latest styles and guaranteed low prices, you can turn the bath you have into the bath you want. good choice.

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mostly in the south. but as senator lindsay graham pointed out just before the 2012 election quote we're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long-term. now between president lindon johnson signing the civil rights act of 1964 and gop southern strategy with talk of welfare queens aimed at stoking fear among white southerners for elections, it is a forgone con clougs that democrats have no chance of winning in the south. but the shift we see nationally may mean the solid south is not so solid any more. the opportunity might not seem obvious given our winner take all system in the electoral college. but look at data. barack obama won virginia and almost retook north carolina again. he got 45% of the southern vote. that's 18.of million voters opposed to romney who got 14.6 million. there remains estimated 400,000

unregistered african-american voters in rural areas. more single white women who tend to vote democratic than there are single white men. you start to see the potential. joining me now for an exclusivant view is former mississippi governor ronnie muss grove of the chair of southern progress fund. a multistate pact that plans to ensure their resources are put towards democrats in the south. thank you for joining me today. >> thank you for having me. >> tell us about the plan you will be announcing tomorrow. >> we have all scent republicans take over the state legislature. and produce an agenda that would make strom thurmond blush. i sit back and think someone will lead the charge against this loonicy. it didn't happen. so we plan it change that. >> if we look at democratic shift, the emerging election

torate we saw in 2008 and 2012 seems like it'll play a huge role in opportunities in the south. >> not only that, if you look at the actual numbers, for instance, in arkansas, we would only have to flip two seats in the house for it to go democrat. three in louisiana. four in mississippi. receiven in alabama. if you start looking at those numbers, and you look at the democratic -- demographic shields happening all across the south, i plef it is a great opportunity for us a to build out our beach, start with legislative races, down ticket races, where literally a small amount of money can mean a lot. >> i think if you consider a state like north carolina where it is part of the new south and we had seen real changes answers sin we have republican legislature, dramatic shift? the other direction. i think your point about focussing on the state legislative races makes a tremendous. a sense and people don't think of that as part of building the bench. talk about that. >> many times what we do is we

take a really talented person. talk them into running for governor. they lose 58-42 and we never see them again. instead of developing a career as a legislator, policy maker, and someone who can talk well about the issues, then we loo lose them. one of the things the southern progress would do is help recruit and train candidates, help build our benches in the legislature, in down ticket races. where i really believe when you look at 2016, 2018, 2020, you are looking at a strong group of candidates. >> this point you're making is about showing up and making an argument. in past elections and the federal level we don't even have candidates. and showing up and talking about values and talking about things that what we stand for and you think about healthcare reform for example, and you think about

sort of all of the ire coming from the gop but then you look at southern states and see there are a number of people, majority of people who would actually benefit from obama care despite the rhetoric we are getting from republican leaders. >> that's one of the reasons we are focused in just the south. last things are happening in texas and florida and we know how to run races and win them from the south. like to georgia, up to kentucky, down to louisiana. those are places where we believe that the policies really do matter for the people and sometimes you see the loonicy of what is happening in the far> now and many people are suffering. so we believe that opportunity for great policies, leadership and right action will matter and we believe the southern progress fund will make the difference. >> i also want to talk about other initiatives that i know you will be working on in terms of voter registration and i'm

assuming helping to make sure we get people to the polls, which one of the big things we have seen as a barrier have been voter id laws and other forms of voter suppression. talk about that part of what you are going to be working on. >> we saw the supreme court's ruling the last month or so. and i never really felt that sitting in marbled halls in the highest court of the land really qualified you to know the ne fa things. so we put together c 14 making sure we work with voter protection and voter registration. it is important know the voter repression steam rolled by the republicans does affect a person's ability to vote and the constant changing requirements to vote. >> absolutely. just as a final thought, we have heard a lot about in terms of the conservative rhetoric of

makers versus takesers and back and forth between a northern republican governor and southern republican senator. but you know, when you look at the map in terms of, again, looking at the south and the number of people in the south who rely on government programs, actually, whether they want to -- whether the rhetoric wants it admit that or not, and the amount of money that the south sends to the federal government versus what they receive, again, it seems like there is an argument to be made based on value, based on the american way that can shift this thinking about makers versus takers and talk a little bit more about it in the context of taking care of our people. >> we have talked to people across the country. we've been ecstatic with how excited people have been because of one of the points that you are making. a lot of people want to get involved. jim hodges from south carolina, you look at others.

roy barnes from georgia. blanch lincoln. but it is not just the grit and sweet tea crowd. it is gray davis from california. >> right. >> ed rendell, governor of msnbc. >> he will appreciate you saying that. >> plenty of people, but they see the same thing. they see when have you policies that do matter and people in the south need good policies, but we've seen the shift to bad policy over the last decade. we intend to change that. >> thank you very much. and happy anniversary to you and your wife. >> thank you. melanie will appreciate that. >> when it comes to the supreme court, why are questions on ethics so hard to stomach? that's coming up. >> so, back we go to these questions. friendship, character, antics. the new guy is loaded with protein! i'll believe it when i--- [ both ] oooooh... [ female announcer ] as you get older, protein is an important part of staying active and strong. ensure high protein... fifty percent of your daily value of protein.

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so imagine this. he are part of deciding whether or not the white house will be required to release names of energy execs on energy policy. you go hunting with a person in charge of that policy in a meeting. or maybe you are a judge deliberating with colleagues in the fate of obama care while your wife founded, raised money and whose group is opposing a what she called the tyranny of president obama. that the exact position two supreme court justices are in. there are a number of questions about ethics in the supreme court. four members of congress announced supreme court ethics act of 2014 to force justices to adhere it a code of conduct. something they shockingly don't actually have right now. it was justice clarence thomas's wife, jenny, who started in 2009

before stepping down an scalia who went on the hunting trip with cheney in 2004. but wait, there's more. in 2001 the american enterprise institute gave justice thomas a bust of lincoln worth $15,000. that same institute's project fair challenged federal voting roets, lo and behold thomas was the lone descent on that case. aei denies any involvement in bringing the suit. in 2005 if you watch closely at swearing in of justice roberts, you might notice justice scalia was nowhere to be found. why was he? on a trip to the ritz carlton in colorado expensed by the federalists society. as pair, scalia and thomas attended a 2010 koch fund-raiser months after deciding a case to allow the koch brothers to spend

endless money for candidates known as citizens united. just last week, mother jones revealed that jeanne thomas, eye formentioned spouse of clarence thomas is playing a major role in a group called grounds swell which plans to enact 30 front war seeking to fundamentally transform the nation. surely a transformation of america might include some issues that would come before the supreme court. let's bring in our guests. thanks to you boning for being here. i want to start with you and start with legislation. let's look at cannon 2-b that the federal judges other than the supreme court has to follow. it reads if part a judge should not allow family, social, political or other relationships to ip flewens judicial conduct or judgment. a judge should neither lend the prestige of the judicial office

to advance the private interests on the judge or other nor convey a or permit others to convey the impression that they are in a special position to influence the judge. seems likes other justices would have a problem following that. >> yes and as you said, and this is remarkable, every judge in the federal district court of appeals level has to abide by a code of conduct. but these nine justices have said they don need to abide by a code. justice roberts said justices will consult the code but they haven't yet agreed to be bound by the code. and last week, four senators and one house member came together, introduced legislation, that's very simple. it basically says, supreme court justices need to abide by a code of conduct, very simple code. they can in fact determine what it says. >> is it up to the justices to

just decide. is it their fate to decide or not decide -- >> that's what they have said for years. >> just trust us? >> just trust us. there are just so many issues. there is recently justice alito who headlined an event organized by the federal society. if he were a lower court judge, he would not have spoken at the event. we have two sets of rules. one for lower court judges. one for supreme court justices and all these members of congress are saying, let's come up with a code for justices at the highest level. wlof whether or not you agree with wht court is deciding, all of us want it know that process of justice is fair and that our justices live up to the highest standards. >> do you think at the time we are having this conversation

about transparency, how about that, i think one of the most egregious examples that is really continuing to come to light is jenny thomas. >> yeah. >> talk to us about, because for her, the organization she is part of and legislation here husband happens to be or laws her husband happens to be ruling on at about the same time. >> yeah and mother jones piece is constructivive of that. there are right wing journalists -- >> all funded by a lot of same people, right? >> funded by major money organizations that pour money into messaging. she is sort of the chairperson, pivot person, every week they come up with talking points. it is not just, well jenny thomas is involved with activism or political, what is wrong with that? this group, mother jones, is talking about pushing back on pom nominee because he had muslim brotherhood ties. you know, this is smearing. this is classicness information

that the media matters tracks all the time through daily call and through all these outlets. and she is part of that misinformation campaign. >> and also just this week, wasn't she part of -- or recently part after meeting of folks who met with darrell issa to continue to push the fake benghazi scandal. >> that's what they are doing. pushing phony scandals. pushing misinformation. it seems to me on the code of ethics, it seems there was a gentleman's gentlemenwoman's aagreement. you have this unique position in the supreme court that family members might take a lower profile approach. jenny thomas was not famous or politically active when judge thomas made it to court. she has done that recently. knowing that it is going to crow ate conflicts of interest. >> just quickly, last question to you, this feels like it should not be a partisan issue, right? this should be something that everybody should agree on in terms of the supreme court having a code of ethics.

>> that's absolutely right. but fact of the matter is we see justices alito, thomas, scalia, the ones running across ethical boundaries. unfortunately, republicans in the house and senate are reluctant to join the bill. and they certainly should be joining this legislation. >> all right. we have to leave it there. thanks to you both. >> next, bill o'reilly says, the girls and the ladies are to blame. we will set them straight. that's coming up. siragusa and'm training guys who leak a little, to guard their manhood with new depend shields and guards. the discreet protection that's just for guys. now, it's your turn. get my training tips at guardyourmanhood.com ♪ let busy bone entertain your dog with it's playful, long lasting twists, and savory, meaty middle. get busy. the world's most entertaining treats.

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this condemns you to poverty. it is destructive to your child. wait until you have a stable situation to become pregnant. >> it will discourage actively discourage -- >> okay. >> peer pressure. >> where to start? first as a progressive, i appreciate owe riley's suggestion that additional resources need to be focused on this issue. but bill, let's not forget, it takes two to get pregnant. so when we have these conversations, let's make sure we talk to girls and boys. having talked with pregnant teens, like aspirin between the knees, just say no ain't going to work with these kids. what does work is responsible education and access to contraception. that's what shows lowers the regul pregnancy rates. pregnancy rates are at all-time

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since the george zimmerman verdict ease president obama's subs speech, there's been several discussions around the race topic. but we vchbt tahaven't talked a sports and pop culture. riley cooper made headlines after going on a racist rant at a concert using the n word and threatening to fight an african-american security guard pl wipe cooper sense apologized for his words and is taking a break from teen activity to

quote undergo some like michael vick and jason avant are standing by him but others are having a difficult time looking past the weight of the world. eagles corner book keri wi cary williams says, this is about history. some of us have had ancestors killed over that word. there are s a lot of history behind it. that needs to be addressed. hi remember my grandmother telling me stories how she was called the n word while being bitten by dogs and hosed. >> evan, i want it start with you, but the ting that struck me about that quote, within the team clearly there is a variety of reactions but also strikes me there is a trust issue that has to be dealt with at some point. >> i think with anybody, if you think you know somebody, and then something like that happens, you probably realize, i

don't really know that person and you brought up the divide in the locker room. i think it is an excellent point. michael vick, quarterback, was the first to speak out on his behalf. this is guy that almost has to be forgiven. because if you think about it, forgiving with be i should say. michael vick got an amazing secretary chance. who is he to tell someone else you cannot get a second chance. so michael vick's comments are not necessarily the indication of the rest of the locker room. i think kary williams, more confused in his statements and hurt in his statements would be more indicative of the eagles locker room. >> rush limbaugh, of course, jumped right on this story, criticizing the media response to cooper's rant. let's take a listen. >> the moral enforcers in the media are now demanding to know just how widespread this is and what should be done with all of these offenders. and how in the world can this be tolerated and what are we going to do about it.

>> you know, what strikes me about that to the points evans was making, you think you know someone, then hear something like this. i think it is legitimate question, you go out on the field, count on someone to have your back, this is a fair question. this is not a moral overplay. >> yeah. we want to keep rush limbaugh out of any serious conversation, that's first and foremost. there are a lot of ways to look at this. on one hand we are at this interesting moment where there seems to be at least in terms of the pr push, a zero tolerance for these kinds of comments around race and racism. you saw what happened to paula dean. you see how focused charge around the zimmerman verdict and this comes into that powder keg. it seems to me the eagles need to cut their losses here with cooper. if you think about chip kelly. this is his neato fight year.

this is the last thing he needs. philadelphia has had a deeply racialized history. and you don't have to go back into philadelphia's history to think about it and look at very, very challenging issues around race in the city. so for the eagles to have to wrestle with this in the run up to the beginning of a season with a new head coach, it just seems like a lot for coach kelly to have to deal with and a lot for this locker room to overcome. >> this is not new to the world of sports. we have seen other athletes get themselves in trouble. shaquille o'neal once used asian stereo types when referencing his teammate yao ming and kobe bryant and others players have been accused of references. but there are some saying, it is their job to get on the field, on the court, and play. >> well when he wears a philadelphia eagles jersey, he

represent philadelphia, and the community. this is a multibillion dollar business. this is greater than sports. this is an good thing in any way shape or form but the end result could be. if it makes us have this conversation we are having right now or reexamine race relations in our country, where we think, jackie robinson happened so it must be good. that's not the case. jackie robinson opened the door. he is a hero. but there's still more to do. >> one piece very quickly to you, james, it occurs to me no one is talking about reaction from the security guard that was referenced in that slur. >> exactly. >> and he didn't have an inappropriate reaction at all. but that's the thing he had to absorb. >> as so often happens, the victims are silenced. this is not just about cooper getting some kind of sensitivity training, we need for the nfl to take a good hard look at itself to look at gun culture, domestic abuse, violence in the league and yes, look at race as well.

nfl, as the premier league, has to look at the challenges they are faced with right now. >> thank you edward and james. appreciate it. that does it for me. stay tuned, though. "the ed show" is up next. okay, a? b? b. a? that's a great choice. let me show you some faucets to go along with that. with the latest styles and guaranteed low prices, you can turn the bath you have into the bath you want. good choice. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. right now, this abbey vanity combo is a special buy. just $299.

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