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good morning. it's monday, august 12th. welcome to "morning joe." >> it's beautiful. how was your weekend? >> i'm a little tired. >> are you really? >> all i did was sleep. >> what woke me up. >> what? >> i'm just slouched, slouched at what willie and i have done, we bring the orphan relief here inside 30 rock and we're doing that and i'm slouched and like -- you know, i get some porage and going like this and listening to "way too early" and what do i hear, lewis' segment which the kids love and laugh at him. >> what an idiot. >> teen choice awards. >> and he goes, he goes, let's begin with something serious. i take you to the teen choice awards. that's lewis. >> like cronkite. >> he's a team. >> with us on set -- >> you had a good weekend? >> no. i just slept and i'm tired. >> you know what i find, if you
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never try to sleep, it doesn't hit you, but the second you get like -- >> it's not worth it. never going to sleep again. >> boom -- >> how was your weekend, willie? >> i'm working on a book with my father and the deadline is approaching very quickly so i decided to get started. >> you sound like joe. >> just kidding, publishers and editors. almost done. >> exactly. >> is there a legal pad i can borrow. >> sten no notebook. >> former white house press secretary and msnbc contributor robert gibbs with us. president of the council on foreign relations and author of the book "foreign policy begins at home" richard haas with us as well. so that's -- it's actually very good to have you on board this morning. a lot to talk about. >> really? >> we'll start with politics unless you would like to interject with something inappropriate, completely old and random and tired. >> put it that way. >> wow. >> i'm going to have oatmeal. >> orphans relief funds. >> somebody tweets about it and
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thinks it's funny. >> she needs more sleep obviously. >> that's correct. you guys will be fine. eat your oatmeal. it may be 2013 in most of the country but in iowa, it looks a lot -- >> like it better when she's asleep a zombie. >> presidential contenders descended on the state to test the waters for a possible white house run. among the would-be candidates rick santorum and senator ted cruz. >> my challenge to the republican party, is to take a page out of our book and start putting forth an agenda of ideas to raise up folks who want to vote for us. you saw for the last election, they didn't want to vote for president obama, but at least he went out and talked to them, at least he went out and spoke about them. we didn't do that. we marginalized them. >> there is no more important regulatory reform than we can do than to repeal every single word
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of obama care. and that reaction right there, shows how we win this fight. >> that's it, richard. that's what it's doing. >> what's that? >> don't you think? creating a lot of space for chris christie listening to those guys. no? is that wrong? >> possible. >> all right. we're looking at here -- >> what's happening on the democratic side. >> the group emily's list. >> people creating space for hillary. >> held an event headlined madam president. it's pretty clear who they're talking about. take a listen. >> we have to have millions of people engaged and ready for what will be a pivotal race in america's history and that is about getting everyone excited now, about what i hope will be that moment in 2017 when we all
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get to say, madam president, to hillary rodham clinton. >> all righty then. as for vice president joe biden, he's set to attend a major political event in iowa next month. the annual steak fry, you can't go, joe, known for attracting top tiered democrats considering a white house run. let's bring in nbc news political reporter kasie hunt in iowa over the weekend with details on these events. kasie, what struck you the most? where do you want to start? >> sort of deja vu all over again. i feel like the republicans never really stopped. didn't seem like -- rick santorum was actually campaigning essentially. he drove across the state in the same pick-up truck that he used in 2012. and he -- >> that's great. >> hit a pizza ranch, he went to blue bonny ice cream. >> you sound tired. was it boring? just admit it. was it boring? >> it was awful.
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>> no. we had -- it was great. >> you say it's deja vu all over again. contrived and not even sort of thought out as a new spin on things? what are you really saying? >> on the republican side in particular, right, rick santorum won the caucuses by the hair, they announced caucus night romney had won. and once that campaign was done, i mean he -- santorum and cruz and bob vanter plat, those groups, all those people fighting for so long ahead of 2012, it felt like they just went straight too more of the same, more of the, you know, wrangling over that. >> all there. robert gibbs, it's so early. >> come on now, it's obvious. >> so early but they're all there. >> the good news -- >> poor kasie had to go. >> only about 1150 days to go and you'll be done with the pizza ranch.
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so just -- >> it is early. starts early. democratic side, republican side. i mean -- >> that's crazy. >> on the democratic side too, the hillary event was interesting. she said back before she even ran in 2008 and robert will remember all of this, i'm sure, that, you know, iowa has never elected a woman to either a federal office or to the governorship. hillary clinton made that point herself beforehand and ultimately went on to lose in iowa to obama, sort of the beginning of the end for her. there was hanging over the madam president event you mentioned on friday, this sort of -- they wanted to demonstrate that the state itself is ready to pick a woman in the next upcoming contest. >> you interviewed someone who actually wanted to be interviewed by you and -- >> how do you know that? >> i just have a feeling. >> usually shy. >> tell me how it happened, donald trump. >> he's terribly shy. >> trump gave this keynote speech. >> where? >> at the family leadership summit in ames, organized by bob
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vander plat. >> he was there too. >> keynote speaker. >> what? >> keynote speaker. all those you showed were the big buildup to dontsds trump. >> what did donald have to say? >> he gave a speech. focused a lot on immigration. he touched on a variety of topics and said the democrats should watch out for hillary and asked -- they asked to do an interview so we sat down and talked to him. he said he insists he's not looking at 2016 yet. he says instead he' focused on 2014. he wants to help some of his friends. >> iowa is lovely this time of year. >> it is lovely. that's why he was out in the corn. he loves cornfields. you've seen "field of dreams". >> beautiful country out there. >> so trump, tell us about him. >> you hang out with him. you've modeled -- >> modeled for him. >> judge for some of his pageants and we all have, god knows, is he going to do it in 2016. >> we'll have to wait bit bated
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breath. >> what's he telling you? >> i suspect he'll string us along until '16 and decide it's not a good time for him. think about it again in 2020. >> hes a out there, cruz is out there. i mean, you know -- >> i have to say, it's remarkable to wake up and realize that that's the biggest thing we're already basically jockeying for 2016. it's -- if the last cycle was things got started so late, you know, it shows what, you know, a largely open presidential race will be like. >> this what is donald trump said over the weekend. >> do we have it? >> i think we have it. >> it's a very important cycle but so far away. i'm looking at, you know, '14 and helping a lot of friends of mine that are running and a lot of good people that are running. it's just too far away. 2016 is very far away. >> you know who i'm reminded of there, willie? >> lincoln? >> yeah, lincoln. >> i mean he is -- very
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lincoln-esque. >> the lincoln of our time i think you called him four years ig ago. >> i did and i was proven right ago. >> i asked him who he wanted to support in 2014 especially in the senate. he said he couldn't -- he didn't want to name any names yet or states quite yet where republicans would take senate seats back. >> the trumpster continues. >> some would say that's kasie doing her job. i would say i'm sorry about your assignment over the weekend. but thank you for coming on this morning. >> at least we got to go to the state fair. >> exactly. other political news, senator tim scott of income south carolina is demanding an apology from harry reid for what the republican calls offensive remarks. scott the only african-american in the senate is referring to comments reid made during a radio interview where he questioned whether race was a factor in republicans' ongoing opposition to president obama's agenda. >> we've been now seven months
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into this second term of the president's and they haven't changed much. so i -- it has been obviously that they're doing everything they can to make him fail. and i hope, i hope, that it's -- and i say this seriously, i hope that that's based on substance not the fact that he's an african-american. >> robert gibbs, what do you make of that? >> the same as you. hmm. yeah. i think it's clearly a huge ideological difference. i don't think -- i don't think that things haven't gotten done in the first seven months because of the president's skin color and i think the president would likely be the first person to tell you that. >> i mean harry reid, is he, willie, the guy -- this is a guy that talked about negro dialect. >> he did. >> in relation to president obama. >> hall pert and heilemann's "game change" book. >> "game change." is he mr. civil rights now? >> he said in "game change" the
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country was ready to embrace a black president candidate, especially such as one as obama a light-skinned african-american with no negro dialect. >> harry weighing into race issues. i would stay away. >> moving on, there is a new element to the rnc's threats to not partner with cnn and nbc for the republican primary debates because of their planned programming specials focusing on hillary clinton. there are now reports that fox tv studios will produce the nbc mini series staring diane lane. >> so fox is going to make money off of the hillary project. >> right. >> okay. so if you're not doing cnn, and you're not doing nbc, and now you can't do fox. >> that means you have to -- that leaves what, i guess? abc and cbs? >> but priebus doesn't think fox's involvement in the project has any bias. >> wait. they're making the movie. >> right. saying it's, quote, totally
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ridiculous and stupid to suggest the -- >> wait. hold on a second. but the rnc, understand this, they -- i mean, fox, the rnc needs to understand, that fox is going to make the movie. >> right. >> they're making it. >> like he thought nbc entertainment was -- >> it's like -- >> i think his -- >> you paint the mona lisa and you hand it to an art gallery and they go, yeah, we'll sell it. so they're painting it and all we're doing is yeah, we'll sell it. so fox is actually making it, right? >> i think this little narrative is collapsing underneath him. >> what do you mean? >> fox is making the money. i don't understand. >> focused on the one thing that was clear. tried to help him. but anyhow -- >> i don't understand. fox is making this? >> yes. >> clinton movie. >> let's take a listen to what he has to say. >> the big question for me, candy, number one, which company is putting it on the air. who's doing the work. i'm not interested if they're
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using the same caterer or whether they all drink diet coke. i'm not boycotts diane lane. i'm going to boycott the company that puts the mini series and the documentaries on the air for the american people to view. >> i like him a lot and i think we've all been in that position, robert, where you're having to defend something that's pretty hard to defend. >> i don't know what you're talking about. what? what do you mean? >> unfortunately for my good friend -- >> you lost me on that one. >> went too far. >> found out fox is making it. they're actually making the movie. they're making the movie. so this is -- >> can't pick and choose. >> he's going to -- >> ready, fire, aim. i think. >> need to find a way out of this. >> i think the entertainment sections of any television networks making something that is clearly belongs in the news division is a bad idea. >> right. >> i think the notion that we're
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going to do this and do it early enough as somebody said so people won't ask for equal time. again, i think it's a bad idea. what was equally a bad idea is a party that needs greatly to expand its base, saying, i'm just going to basically -- i'm just going to appear basically on one network and hope that somehow exed. a s the base. his own report postmortem if you will on the election said, we needed to expand the base. we need to talk to more people. >> right. >> so you know, it's the -- he's a bit over the tips of his skis to say the least. >> he is. i'm sure he never saw this coming and i said last week, if i were in his position i would be angry. always have to be -- with nbc and cnn. always have to be careful about the boycotting stuff because it blows up in your face. you were saying last week, what if -- doesn't fox -- don't they have an entertainment division and sure enough, here we come and it is -- >> i also think -- i think more than half of what the chairman
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was doing was working the refs. more than half of what he was doing is for a diane lane mini series that currently doesn't have a script, when they get around to writing a script, somebody in the back of their mind will say let's be overly fair or too fair. that's in many ways i think all of what he's doing. i'm not sure that -- that those in the clinton orbit would think too keen on either of these documentaries as well. >> you're just -- you just need to be really careful about this. if you're the rnc. willie, i want to follow up with something robert said, i think it's very important. the rnc after the report did say this. i was saying this all along. the reason why the romneys woke up on election day thinking they're going to win, the reason why the romney campaign woke up believing they were going to win, the reason why conservatives kept yelling at me from september on saying you're rooting for obama, i said i'm not, i'm voting for romney,
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they're going to lose. their campaign stinks. they have to do this, this, this and they're not doing it. they were inside that bubble. and they thought i was from mars. or at least msnbc. and i was right. they were wrong. but why? because they were in the bubble. they were preaching to the choir. you know, if i'm a candidate, in a general election or i want to get my message out, the last thing i want to do is just preach to my choir. that's a recipe for failure again. >> yeah. i mean it makes sense. and i guess the argument from conservatives would be that when a democrat preaches to the choir, it's a larger choir. they would say it's the whole media essentially. that's why fox news and the republicans have sort of a symbiotic relationship, but that's not enough as robert said to win a broad national election. >> if i'm running a republican primary, there's no place i want to be other than fox news. to me would matter, a national primary, a news channel, i want to be on fox news. but if i'm a party that is
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shrinking and who's lost five out of the last six popular votes i want to get out on every channel, every network. i want to be at the teen choice awards with lewis. >> exactly. >> all right. >> we're going to touch on this next big headline and also follow through on must-reads with it. after the white house canceled president obama's meeting with russian president vladimir putin, there are big questions today about where that relation stands. president obama spoke about it during friday's news conference and his remarks prompted a challenge from senator john mccain who says the president should be doing more to push back against moscow. >> i don't have a bad personal relationship with putin. when we have conversations they're candid, they're blunt. oftentimes they're constructive. i know the press likes to focus on body language and he's got that kind of slouch looking like the bored kid in the back of the
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classroom. but the truth is, is that when we're in conversations together, often times it's very productive. >> the president comparing him to a kid in the back of the classroom, i think, is very indicative of the president's lack of appreciation of who vladimir putin is. we also need very badly to understand that mr. putin does not have united states/russia relationships in any priority and treat him in a realistic fashion. that's the whathe way to treat putin. not just canceling a meeting. >> making one comment about how it pertains to putin is doing the same thing, richard haas. vladimir putin seems to be mocking us every step of the way. i don't have a problem with the analogy. i can think of more strong targeted analogies actually. >> it's odd language. >> it's odd language. >> one of two odd piece of the press conference.
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the other comparing the nsa program to doing the dishes at the white house. >> it's odd language for a person who's actually behaved oddly over the past two years. >> richard is talking about the president of the united states -- >> just to be clear -- >> i'm talking about -- >> the president of the united states. >> i do agree it's odd language to use about vladimir putin. i do. but look at this guy. i mean it's not like -- >> he's looking sexy. do you think he's own human growth? >> oh, god. i just want to be sick. come on. >> russia is a spoiler. this is no longer a great power. this is a country of 143 million people and the population until the last year or so has been shrinking. a one-dimensional economy. just got oil and gas. economically and politically controlled by a handful of people. it's a spoiler. it's a spoiler in place -- >> do you agree with john mccain's critique of the president? >> that's where i disagree with john. okay. but they're still out there, got a vote in the security council, can supply arms it to the syrians. look, we don't like them but
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what's the best way to deal with them. one option for the president would have been going to moscow, having a tough meeting with putin and then going public. look, putin is worried more than anything else about his domestic political base. he's worried about a moscow spring. what happens if people in russia come out in the streets? >> yes. >> do they protest -- >> yes. >> whatever little legitimacy he has that disappears. it was interesting. the president isn't going to moscow to meet with him but kerry and having really meeting with their counterparting. the russians can be spoilers. we have to deal with them whether we go to moscow this time or not. >> i thought it was telling when, when richard you'll know this, all the words you describe a summit meeting or a discussion that doesn't go well, diplomatically, we were candid, we were frank, sometimes it was actually productive. i mean -- >> yeah. >> that is the set of words you
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use to describe anything that is tremendously challenging. >> yeah. >> and he could have picked any word to describe those conversations and he picked the words that describe the challenging relationship. as richard said, a country that isn't going to set the agenda for the world, but can certainly augment where the world wants to go through the security council. >> yeah. example is syria. all right. coming up, we'll talk about this more coming up. coming up on "morning joe," senator chuck schumer of new york joins us on the set. also ahead dr. zeke emanuel from the u.s. national soccer team, clint dempsey. >> i was going to say, plays on the soccer team now? >> i almost did that. >> and later, one of the few artists to win an emmy, grammy, oscar and tony, hello, rita more rain no. >> she's great and coming back. >> up next the top stories in the politico playbook. first here's dylan drier with a check on the forecast. >> good morning. we are looking at rain and talk about rain over the weekend.
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we saw some incredible video from colorado right outside of colorado springs. a massive mudslide tossing those cars. that's an area that was recently burned by the waldo canyon fire so when you have no vegetation, you end up with mudslides especially when you get the amount of rainfall they saw. it's monsoonal moisture that produced those heavier downpours on friday into the weekend and we're going to see the same setup again today. we're seeing heavier rain across kansas, oklahoma, also an area that is already been soaked by rain so we could see some airport delays. most of the delays today, though, would be because of pop-up thunderstorms later on this afternoon, especially down across the southeast and too the xwufl coast states. we are going to see the heavier rain move from kansas into parts of the missouri area and it's also mid to late this afternoon an area that could end up with large hail and damaging wind especially through the plain states and we could end up with ♪ another several inches of rain
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time to take a look at the morning papers. we start with "usa today." apple will be announcing a new iphone on september 10th. >> is it going to be a letdown? >> of course it will. >> the iphone 5 s. the kids are calling it nothing special. the new features will include an operate system that's new, better camera and processors. that sounds exciting. sign me up. san diego union tribu tribune embattled san diego mayor bob filner completed his in-patient behavioral modification therapy sooner than
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expected -- >> now the nurses are on therapy. >> he got class done sooner. really? really? initially thought to be in treatment from august 5th through the 12th, he actually started earlier. filner is under pressure to resign amid accusations from sexual harassment from as many as 14 women. >> now you got to add the nurses with him during treatment so he's probably up to a good two dozen. right? >> this is a real story. >> they have to get treatment. >> i don't get this. >> i don't know. >> his lawyer says he will continue with outpatient therapy. what does that mean? >> i don't know. >> don't stroke a woman's face. let me remind you not to stroke a woman's face and ask her if she has a man in her life. don't do that. remember, bob. remember. you don't stroke their faces. >> whether -- >> you don't go after them. >> you don't ask them for dates. >> retired admirals -- >> i've done that to willie a couple times. we work together. it's a confined you know -- >> and willie, it's professional. it's professional. >> yeah. >> i think --
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>> this is a weird story. >> but it's -- you know what, love is not weird. when willie and i look into each other's eyes -- let's look at the weekend box office. "elysium" staring matt damon took the number one spot. i'm surprised at this. >> yeah. >> this looked like a total flop waiting to happen. but it pulled in an impressive $30.5 million. "elysium" had a $115 million budget. right behind there was "we're the millers" star jennifer aniston and jason se day cuss, earned $26.5 million. a movie i went to take my kids to see "planes," it made 22.5 million. i'm an expert on "cars" because i have seen it 8,433 times and better than "cars 2," not as good as "cars." really good movie. >> let's go to the "l.a. times." this is fascinating. officials in switzerland are
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apologizing to tv titan oprah winfrey. >> this is horrible. >> after she was denied by a saleswoman her service at a store in zurich. winfrey reportedly asked to see a $38,000 crocodile purse made by designer tom fore. >> that's a lot of money. >> the salesperson told opera it was out of her price range. >> and i go into a store, which shall remain unnameded a say to the woman, excuse me, may i see that, that bag right above your head. and she says to me, no. it's too expensive. and she refused to get it. she refused to get it. she started to show me these other little bags. and i said, one more time, i tried, i said, but i really do just really want to see that one. and she said, oh, i don't -- i don't want to hurt your
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feelings. and i said, okay. thank you so much. you're probably right, i can't afford and i walked out of the store. >> that was in target. i mean switzerland stores -- >> can i tell you -- i don't understand a purse that costs that much if i can start there, but that's so wrong on so many levels. the store's owner called it a classic case of misunderstanding adding who wouldn't want to sell a purse at that price. >> right. >> our suggestion for oprah, turn it into a pretty woman moment. >> this better be good. ♪ pretty woman look my way ♪ pretty woman >> may i help you? no, thank you. hi. >> hello. >> do you remember me? >> no, i'm sorry. >> i was in here yesterday. you wouldn't wait on me. >> oh. >> you work on commission, right? >> yes. >> big mistake. big. huge. i have to go shopping now. >> yeah. >> that was tj's idea to do
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that. >> yeah. >> i think tj needs to stop watching "grease" and "16 candles". >> and "pretty woman" -- >> it's a good movie. >> we're going to be talking to oprah on wednesday about all of this. >> yeah. >> and -- but for now, we're going to go to willie geist. time to send t.j. back on a disney cruise i think. >> i think he forget what show he was on. >> i know. whatever. >> so anyway, wednesday, willie, amazing interviews on wednesday. >> oprah. >> going to be here lee daniels. everybody's going to be here. >> great from the movie "the butler". >> great move gee. >> outstanding. >> let's go to politico. chief white house correspondent mike allen a look at the playbook. good to see you. >> good morning. >> talk cory booker questions this morning about the newark mayor in his finances as he gets ready for the senate primary which gets under way tomorrow. what's the question now? >> well the question is whether cory booker has been candid with
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voters about what's going on with his bank account. over the last week we've seen a number of stories calling into question the mayor's disclosures. now you mentioned tomorrow is that democratic primary. cory booker, according to the real clear politics, average a 41-point favorite for the real special election in october. he's only a 20-point favorite. so cory booker very secure. he's getting new scrutiny over the weekend "the new york post" confirmed with him, walked up to him at an event he continued to get payments from the law firm he had worked for while he was in office. this is legal. this was a settlement or a structured payout over five years from 2007 through 2011. but, "the new york post" points out, that during that time, the law firm, which is paying him off, use profits, had been representing agencies that were under his control including a housing agency, and --
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>> yeah. >> sanitation agency. last week we saw that cory booker, the mayor of the internet, also a little bit of a mogul of the internet with a stake worth $1 million to $5 million in internet start-up and he's not putting out his tax returns yet. he will. in the past he's gone after his opponents for not doing that. >> willie, do you read "the new york times" op-ed about politico and "the washington post" this weekend. >> i did. >> it's crazy. these politico guys caused the downfall of the graham's "washington post." that was a heck of an op-ed. >> "the washington post" can't win also politico loses. >> ross who said that you can mark the moment of the post demise when john harris, jim vandehei left the post to start politico which tapped into a niche which should have been "the post's" and he goes on to say now it's politico, not "the
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post" that drives political conversation in washington. >> and says politico must die if "the washington post" is to live. >> what's that? >> it's on. >> politico is ready. we are ready. >> what? you're ready to rumble! very good. >> mike, we have to work on your trash talk a little. >> undoubtedly. >> by the way the thing i did not like about that op-ed is vandeh vandehei, like a potted plant over there. mike allen makes the place run. >> he is so -- >> what vandehei does over there all day? >> what. >> he plays video golf like he's got the old computer from like 1993 and he just -- that's all he does. mike allen does all his work. vandehei does nothing. >> i don't doubt it. how cute is mike. mike, you're the cutest thing. you might be the cutest thing in the whole world. >> we love you, mike. >> love you back. >> all right. >> take care. >> i want to stroke his face
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all right. time for sports. let's start with golf and the final -- >> how did tiger do? did he win? >> never in this one. >> did he win? >> no major since 2008. by the time he tees off at the masters almost six years since he won a major. came down to jim furyk and jason defer in. oak hill up in rochester new york. shot of the day, jim clark, par 3 11, 223 yards out. bounce bounce. drops. >> just like haas. >> ace. >> first of this year's pga tournament, first since 2010. tiger played okay, shooting 70, good for par. he was way out of it by then, finished 4 over for the tournament. 14 shots back. as i said, has to wait until
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april for the masters to win his 15th major. >> it's a shame he lost. harry reid saying a lot of americans were cheering for him yesterday. >> jason dufner started one shot behind furyk. birdied the 4th and 5th holes to take the lead but furyk answered. dufner takes it right back. that tap-in boeigey to hold on. finally gets his first major, your 2013 pga champ. you like this guy, jason dufner? >> he is every man, the guy at the public links. you got to love him. >> muni. >> republicans who shoot a 63 at the pga championship. >> there's that one difference. >> exactly. >> so paul azinger is on the twitter. >> yes. >> and he congrate lated him once. i shot a 63 once in a major, i was at the 16th hole. azinger saying tough things
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about tiger. >> writes tough things about me. >> he great. >> i'm insulted by a great golfer. very conservative guy. i love him. sounds like my mom. >> dufner is known for the way he slouchs and stands and all these people lining the galleries imitating him. it's cool to watch. a following like nobody else. >> baseball, mike barnicle. >> all right. >> good news, bad news, good news day fort yankees. bottom of the second, a-rod versus justin verlander he goes deep. his first home run of the season. number 648 in his career. just 12 behind willie mayss for fourth all time. let's go to the ninth. >> willie is thrilled. >> mariano rivera to close it out. struggling this week. miguel cabrera takes one over the wall. second home run off riviera in three days, the yankees kis still hold a one-run lead. another bomb into the second deck in right. third consecutive blown save for rive rivera. first time that's ever happened
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in his career. the yankees did have a chance to make it right in the bottom of the ninth. >> that one's driven deep to right field! there it goes! yankees win 5-4. >> michael with the call on the yes network. yankees win 5-4. a-rod home run but riviera, people worried about him. the yankees shave that lead now to ten games to the al east. >> wow. >> behind the red sox. >> this is a little too close for comfort. >> don't want to see that happening to riverarivera. >> you don't. >> i was thinking that. >> to kansas city where the royals are looking for their seventh consecutive series win hosting the red sox, bottom of the third, they lead 3-1, gordon drives one into the stands, 13th home run of the year. sox had a chance to tie it but ja cobe else bury strikes out and ends his 21-hit streak. they're 4 1/2 out of the wild card. the sox three games up on the rays in the division.
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>> tampa bay got swept by the dodgers. >> swept by the dodgers. just going to be a verbal. we don't have video to show. >> yeah. >> to d.c. where we saw stephen strasburg gets his first -- highlights of every game played. >> every game. mike. >> complete game shutout. first of his career for strasburg. final out of the game, ryan zimmerman showing off the leather in a line drive. nats win 6-0, can you believe they're 14 1/2 games back of the braves. >> man. >> zimmerman caught it because he couldn't throw it to first. >> right. >> coming up next, mika's must-read opinion pages. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. creativity. ingenuity.
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there is now a large percentage of americans, particularly young americans, who view mr. snowden has some keends of a whistleblower when we know that he betrayed his oath of office. there's a young generation that believes he is some kind of jason bourne and there has got to be more transparency. >> 47 past the hour. time now for the must-read opinion pages. we'll take this from "the wall street journal". the editorial board writes this. obama's security retreat. mr. obama's overture is dangerous politically and as policy. as mr. obama spoke the u.s. still had 19 embassies or consulates closed around the world for fear against a terror attack. while most have since been reopened, the uses of surveillance and warning of the potential attack would seem to be clear. surveillance saves american lives. yet mr. obama has now joined the debate on his back foot, considering the new bureaucratic
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intrusions are needed to interfere and limit his own war fighters. it's not enough for me as president to have confidence in these programs, the american people feed to have confidence in them as well. mr. obama said. well yes, but a president's job is to give them that confidence, not to undermine that confidence. >> richard? >> it's interesting "the new york times" had an editorial saying the president didn't go far enough, "wall street journal" has an editorial saying the president went too far. the president preserved the programs and introduced some new processes, outsiders looking at it, advocacy proceedings in the special courts. before i could tell, listening to his press conference and the associated documents nothing changed in terms of what nsa and the u.s. intelligence -- >> congressmen complaining about this saying the president's tying his own hands and making america weaker. >> all he talked about was outsiders reviewing the program and having someone who with would stand up in the fisa courts, challenging it.
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99.99% of the programs tend to be approved within the courts. if something actually changes down the road you can have this conversation. so far at least, the president seems to have basically only given a little bit of ground on process, not on the actual programs. >> mike? >> richard, do you think part of the issue here is that we continue to use the phrase, by we, i mean the president of the united states, "war on terror" when it is a daily struggle with terror and the president and many other public people at the top of the pyramid have somehow don't have the confidence that the american people can be told that there are people out there each and every day who want to hurt us? >> look, war on terror is a terrible phrase. it suggests there's an end to it. there's not going to be a battleship missouri surrender ceremony. how do we stay open for business, how do we stay and do everything we need to do in the world at the same time take necessary precautions. we can't close our embassies every time there's a lot the
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chatter. we haven't figured out how to do this, how to stay true to policy and interests at the same time we take necessary precautions. how to get the balance right. >> closing the embassies literally undermines what they do. >> the embassies are already for tresses. we've already given some ground. this is not a sustainable policy. these guys will start pulling our chain all the time. >> coming up on "morning joe" senator chuck schumer will be on the set. first, willie, what do you have in news you can't use. >> keeping tabs on the anthony weiner for mayor campaign. >> i think there's a surge. >> at the dominican day parade in new york city. among other things, holding plantains. >> all right. >> why is he holding a plantain? >> do you have the pictures of him? >> we do. >> plantains. the average pizza dinner out is
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all right. let's see what we got here. this is serious stuff. >> fighting for the middle class struggling to make it. i've put out two books of new ideas, 125 of them, in fact. everything from restoring discipline in our schools to creating a single payer health plan for our city. look, powerful voices have made it clear from the very beginning they didn't want me to win. but this isn't about what they want. they've gotten their way for far too long. if you give me the chance, i will fight for you and your family every single day. >> segue.
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>> anthony weiner. >> he's decided he's going to end on a high, dignified note. got to be dignified. >> anthony weiner's first television ad set to begin airing today in new york city. >> stop, mike. >> we've been following his progress closely. he has sunk in the polls. fourth place at 10%. >> come on. >> here's how you get it back. >> dominican day parade on 6th avenue in new york city. >> that's great. >> some photographs from the "new york daily news." first we have him dancing. >> all right. >> and then -- >> okay. that's good. >> as you know, a popular food stuff in dominican republic is a plantain. >> i love those. >> see it across the caribbean, really. >> i guess someone handed him one. >> if you're going to win, you hold a plantain. anybody that knows new york politics knows that. >> got to hold the plantain. >> all right. willie. >> everybody holds the plantain.
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>> still ahead, dr. zeke emanuel reacts to the latest challenges to obama care and a new effort by mayor bloomberg now to snuff out electronic -- >> come on! >> electronic cigarettes. >> stop it. >> i seriously -- come on! >> those things are interesting. >> what are you going to do, ban like the churches next? what's wrong with him? >> i think they're therapeutic. >> also howard fineman. >> they came from my plantain and nobody was there. to save me. mine was earned in djibouti, africa. 2004.
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welcome back to "morning joe." top of the hour. live look at the white house. as the sun comes up over washington. beautiful day. we do have robert gibbs still with us over at the jump seat. joining the table, msnbc political analyst and visiting professor at nyu, former congressman harold ford jr. >> good morning. >> editorial director of the "the huffington post" media group and msnbc political analyst, howard fineman. >> good morning. >> harold, he knows politics, right. anthony weiner. >> oh, my goodness. >> come on. >> talking about the history. david din kins, rudy giuliani, you name a mayor they've all had a plantain. >> you were thinking about running once in new york. >> i saw the picture. >> did you hold a plantain? >> this is -- >> i probably wouldn't hold it like that but yeah, if you have to hold it, i would hold it. >> this is not good. just stop. i'm not trying to be a scold. i'm helping. >> she's shocked.
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>> i'm just helping you all out. >> probably won't hold it like that. all right. good. a lot of stuff going on here. >> we do. >> did you hear about this -- this whole plantain thing. this fox -- fox is producing this hillary clinton movie. >> it kind of undermines the head of the rnc's point which i thought was already undermined by the nbc argument -- oh, goodness. turn this thing off. >> turn that off. >> but there is a new element -- >> it's kind of crazy. >> a new element to the threats to not partner with cnn and nbc for the republican primary. >> their business, really. i would be upset if i were them. >> because of their planned programming specials focused on hillary clinton. that was the argument. >> four-day mini series. >> got everybody in trouble talking about it. there are reports now that fox tv studios will produce the nbc mini series staring diane lane. >> so now, harold, this is
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terrible because now, reince can't use cnn, or nbc, or -- >> or fox you would think. >> because fox is actually making the movie. >> right. >> right. >> they're producing -- >> ban them. >> producing the movie. i mean where are they going to go? >> there may be a tv one and -- >> go ahead. >> i hope the guy -- it's tough. i agreed with you last week. if these networks were going to do this, he had every right to say we're going to boycott them. now he faces a consistency and hypocrisy challenge. if you subscribe to thatter that theory you would have to abandon fox. >> because fox is making the hillary. they're making gobs of money. >> the head of the rnc doesn't think fox's involvement in the project has any bias saying it's, quote, totally ridiculous and stupid to suggest the rnc should also boycott fox --
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>> i don't -- >> the big question for me, candy is number one, which company is putting it on the air. who's doing the work. i'm not interested if they're using the same caterer or whether they all drink diet coke or i'm not boycotting diane lane. i'm going to boycott the company that puts the mini series and the documentaries op the air for the american people to view. >> all right. >> you can't have your cake and eat it too. >> howard, they're going to have to find a way out. i'm sure they had no idea fox was going to be making this movie. >> the words due diligence don't necessarily go with the words reince priebus, doesn't seem to me in this case. >> in this case. >> in this particular case. >> but i mean, that's the problem. i mean if fox is making all the money making it because they're producing it -- >> no. i think he -- he had a lot of sympathy initially. surprising amount. >> certainly with chuck todd. >> to me. >> and you and a lot of others. >> i was -- i was basically -- when i was here i said hey,
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reince, think of something more important to worry about than this, try to think about what the republican party is supposed to stand for and supposed to head. but if he wants to pursue it, he's now put himself in the patch on this. >> robert gibbs, the problem i think, i actually think it's a good debate, bias in the media, whether it exists and i thought reince brought up something that was a good conversation for us all to have to be perfectly transparent. then he told me that i could not moderate the republican primary debate because i was not along the lines of the interests of the republican party. and i thought okay. all right. >> so that leaves you basically with fox. >> fox. >> now fox isn't -- if he's going to be consistent, fox can't moderate a debate which, of course, we know they will. i thought you had a great point. and i always say, you don't win the presidency if you're a republican by winning northwest florida. >> right. >> you win it by winning the i-4 corridor, by winning the suburbs, columbus, ohio.
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you know, the suburbs of philadelphia. that's why you want to be on as many networks as possible. somebody joked about b.e.t. dam straight. every channel you can get on, debate the. let your people hear. >> they have to expand the electorate that's hearing their message. how many times do we recall or did we play clips for the whole election of answers that were given in very narrow republican primary debates, right? self-deportation. obviously was something that chased mitt romney, not just in the primary, but throughout the general election. and look, i would have paid good money to have seen the look on his face when he read that story in "the new york times" over the weekend knowing he was going to go on cnn of all places and have to answer questions about it. i think he had a strong point about entertainment versus news divisions, and that seems to
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have crumbled a bit. >> totally convoluted now. >> you watch the debates, willie, a lot of the early republican debates, and they, you know, really ruckus -- people would be cheering when you talked about self-deportation and if the candidate wanted to make a win they needed to go further and further out there and then boom, it hammers them. this is not being about, you know, whether you're conservative or ultraconservative. it's whether you put yourself in a position where you just can't win a general election. >> but i don't think any of that was a product of what network the debate was on. does anybody think the fact that the debate would be on fox or abc or wherever it is the debate would be all that different. maybe some of the questions would be different. maybe the moderators coming from a different place if from fox or msnbc. but i -- that doesn't change the substance of who the candidates are. >> the ones on cnn, of course, would have this scanned down image of -- >> mika asked the question about
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bias in media. what it shows the real bias in media is called profitability and fox realizes there's an opportunity to do well here. i agree with you howard, the real focus should be on how do you get a message and substance -- >> in terms of the way the debates were produced last time. some of the problem is everybody robotically raising their hand at one point was the audience reaction. >> yeah. >> and the audience was for the most part in almost all the debates controlled by the local republican party or by the republican party. when people cheered about the death penalty and booed about somebody getting health care or whatever they were doing -- that was not the network's fault if that looked bad politically. >> yeah. >> that was the rnc's fault. >> right. >> all right. it may be 2013 in most of the country, but in iowa, it looks a lot like 2016. potential presidential contenders descended on the state over the weekend to test the waters for a possible white house run. among the would-be candidates rick santorum and senator ted
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cruz. >> my challenge to the republican party is to take a page out of our book and start putting forth an agenda of ideas to raise up folks who want to vote for us. you saw it for the last election. they didn't want to vote for president obama. but at least he went out and talked to them. at least he went out and spoke about them. we didn't do that. we marginalized them. >> there is no more important regulatory reform that we can do than to repeal every single word of obama care. and that reaction right there, shows how we win this fight. >> it's not just the republicans in iowa. the group emily's list held an event headlined madam president as senator claire mccaskill explained it's pretty clear who they're talking about. >> we have to have millions of
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people engaged and ready for what will be a pivotal race in america's history and that is about getting everyone excited now about what i hope will be that moment in 2017 when we all get to say, madam president to hillary rodham clinton. >> and joe biden will get in on the action next week. he's going to go. >> i think claire would be a good president. >> what's that? >> claire mccaskill. >> she would. >> but here's what maureen dowd writes in "the new york times" over the weekend. madam president. many democrats are hungry to make history again and they see the first woman president as the natural successor to the first black president. it's all that obama who once talked about being a transformational president did not want to ensure that his allies and aims were imprinted on the capital. instead he has teed up the ball
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for hillary. some of the excitement about barack obama was the prospect of making a clean start, after years of getting dragged into the clintons dubious ethics and personal messes. yet, obama ushered in the return of clinton incorporated and gave it his blessing. what he doesn't seem to realize yet is hillary's first term will be seen not as a continuation of obama but as bill clinton's third term. you know, there is a certain i think quid pro quo but certain exchange that i can't help but to see going on here with the interview they did together and everything else, the position that she's received in the administration, it is sort of setup this way where he is i guess returning the favor. would you agree, harold ford jr.? >> a lot of the histrionics look that way and the narrative looks that way. >> how could it not be that way? >> i don't think there's any doubt. i believe he knows -- the president knows he owes the
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clinton's a great deal. written and said the speech at the convention was more helpful and pivotal. two, she's earned and deserves a lot of what she's getting right now. i do wonder how the biden camp is interpreting a lot of this. >> interesting. >> robert gibbs, that's what i was going to ask you. he owes hillary clinton a lot but probably owes joe biden a lot more. he has fought a lot of his legislative battles on capitol hill. how does president obama walk the line, supporting its vice president but trying to give hillary clinton her due. >> look, i've got to say, i think this is not quite as ultrachoreographed as we're making it out to be. i think the president, first of all -- >> are you saying you don't agree with every word maureen dowd said. >> i know that's the first time i've said this on the show. i think that, you know, first of all, i think if you're a president with three years left, the last thing you're doing is spending a ton of time thinking about who is going to do the job next. you have a limited amount of
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time with which you're doing the job. i don't think the president will get heavily involved in picking between joe biden and hillary clinton. i think that will in many ways sort itself out once each of them decides what they want to do. but i think there's a long, long way to go. quite frankly, a number of unanswered questions on both sides about, you know, what's hillary's message going to be? what did she learn from the last campaign that she is going to employ in this campaign so as o not to take another can't lose nomination and lose it. >> all right. howard? >> i was going to say i think that maureen dowd's column lays out what the tension is going to be as hillary goes forward. on the one hand, she's going to try to be another transformational figure. she's going to run as the transformational in terms of gender the way obama did in terms of race. but on the other side, it's the return of the clintons. you've got a story of newness and transformation, against the story of the return to an old
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status quo in clinton incorporated as maureen puts it. >> boy, we're talking about press bias. the press really turned on hillary in 2007. are they going to -- i mean what's your gut? do they do it again in 2015? >> i don't know the answer to that. i hesitate as great as maureen is to assume the future of journalism based on one maureen dowd column. i think that she -- i do think they lays out the basic tension. hillary is a transformational figure and hillary is a return to clinton incorporated. that's the basic tension. i'm also astonished, as much as i love horse race stuff, as much as i love presidential politics, we're seven or eight months into -- we're only seven or eight months into president obama's second term and we are way into the presidential race. i've been around a long time, joe. this is more quickly than i've ever seen it happen. >> why is it that clinton ink is moving as quickly as they are. >> partly because there's a vacuum.
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this president has got obama care to implement. he's got dodd/frank to implement. he's got to guard the rest of the world. it's essentially -- >> i do -- >> it's essentially a conservative -- >> hear all the time, why are you talking about the election is not three and a half years away. >> i understand completely. it's august. so help me god. it's 2013. but you know what, right now, things are happening that are going to impact -- and it's moving fast. >> i was talking to the camera and now talking to you. >> i completely agree. i think it's also because this president has an essentially defensive or implementing phase of his presidency. there's not a whole lot of forward lean to what president obama is talking about. he's talking about all right, make my day, let's see how we implement obama care. go ahead, make my day, see if you want to reject immigration. go ahead, make my day, trying to attack one of our embassies. there's not a grand forward
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vision of the second term of barack obama, it seems to me, and that's one reason why everybody's already moved on to 2016. >> joe and howard and mika and willie, for that matter, what is -- why are you leaving out -- >> gibbs -- >> four years ago when hillary clinton was the foregone conclusion, you had barack obama merging. this time she's the foregone conclusion and really don't have as big a figure -- don't get me wrong, joe biden is a figure. obama had given a phenomenal speech at the convention. who's out there in your estimation who could -- >> on the democratic side, on my side, the aisle that could challenge her in a way that obama was able. it may be too early to predict or say. who outside of biden would say could challenge her? >> i think anthony weiner actually. >> oh, god. >> thank you. >> holds the plantain properly. >> and harold has already said that's not how he holds it. >> that's not how i would do it.
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>> okay. harold, stay with us. i think. still ahead -- >> yes. >> fast company, why amazon is loved by its shoppers and feared by its competitors. a new look at one of the world's biggest retailers and the man behind it, jeff bezos. up next doctors orders. dr. zeke emanuel standing by. we'll get his take on a new effort by mayor bloomberg -- >> smile. it won't kill you. >> electronic cigarettes in new york city. i do have questions about that. i thought those helped people. >> they help people here's dylan dreyer with a check on the forecast. >> good morning. we are seeing some heavier rain through the plain states and that is not good news especially for areas that are already rain soaked since the beginning of august. we've already picked up up to 18 inches of rain in parts of missouri and more rain is heading into that area. you can see across eastern kansas right now, torrential downpours with the thunderstorms. southeastern missouri moving into western kentucky and tennessee, more torrential
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idea. what you should be thinking about is how can we advance and improve ways for middle-class families to have some security so that if they work hard they can get ahead and their kids can get ahead. >> 22 past the hour. with us now -- >> so you tried one of these cigarettes. >> i did. your friend. >> how was it? >> it tastes like a cigarette. not that i smoke. but -- are. >> are you a spoker some. >> i don't smoke. i know what a cigarette tastes like. >> right. >> why are you making this dirty. >> how a cigarette tastes like is by smoking a cigarette. >> my mother made me smoke when i was 14 so i would never smoke. >> but you smoke these e-cigarettes. >> okay. former white house adviser for health policy -- >> was it good? >> it tasted like a cigarette and that's the question. >> that's the idea. >> what's wrong with you? >> hey, zeke is here. >> vice provost for global initiatives at the university of
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pennsylvania. we have to say his title every time or -- he's a diva. dr. zeke emanuel. >> dr. zeke, so i got this friend smoking just packs of cigarettes every day his entire life. >> whole life. 30 years. >> started smoking these e-cigarettes. no tar. none of the stuff that gunks up your lungs. little bit of nicotine and mist and he's quit smoking the bad stuff. >> everything. >> isn't that good? >> cold turkey. >> that's a good case, but again, we don't have a lot of data on a lot of people and whether they actually enhance quitting smoking or not. and i think it would be very good to have research on it whether it really works or not. >> you've looked into it. isn't it better to have somebody -- because now bloomberg is talking about banning this. >> why? >> i'm sure he'll try to ban sex next. he tries to ban anything -- >> that's good for your health. we have data on that. >> that is good for your health. >> as long as we have data i'm all for it.
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>> okay. it's great for your health. so the question is, like the -- why would he try to ban something? >> i'm not sure what the rationale. i do think one important question is whether having kids younger than 18 smoking these electronic cigarettes causes them to smoke real cigarettes. >> that's not good. >> no one knows the answer to that. these are heavily promoted to kids at concerts. >> they are? >> like the website -- >> i thought -- >> i went on the website. >> the starter kit, $80, shockingly high cost to me, even the disposables i guess good for about 20 or 30 puffs or cigarettes whatever they are. four of them were like $40. it's an expensive start, expensive habit. but don't forget, nicotine is addictive. >> junior. >> once they get kids starting on them they're going to continue to use them. and, of course, make sales. i would also say, there have been some cases where the cancer
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causing agent have been found in the smoke. these are -- they were found in china, originally created in china and then brought to the united states an regulating them and making sure they are nothing more than nicotine and water vapor is an important element. >> i thought they were a vehicle to quit smoking. i did not know they were like something you want everybody to buy. >> that's how they're marketed. that's the reason they were created actually was to help quit smoking. >> that's how they should be used and a doctor prescribe them maybe. >> that's what our experience with our friend is. >> but the question i would have is, what's better, smoking a cigarette or smoking one of these things? you must know. obviously one of these things -- >> again, this is certainly better than smoking a cigarette. >> okay. >> bottom line. >> don't have a lot of data because cigarettes cause cancer and these don't appear to cause cancer. i think whether they help quitting more than your friend in a big population is an important question and whether they might induce kids once they
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have the nicotine addiction to continue or go on to regular cigarettes. we don't know the answer. >> i might agree with the mayor again. >> you know -- >> i think he may be overreacting. what we need is more research in this area and i do think the fda is trying to regulate the whole area and that's an important thing. >> i agree. >> we need to have someone reg xwla glatsing, make sure all you get is nicotine and mist. >> how do you hold one of those things. >> i would have to have see a picture to determine if i would. i don't smoke cigarettes. just related, the president gave great remarks about his health care law, some of the things republicans are trying to do. what would be the strategy for the president? should there be some? jim clyburn said maybe the health law needs to be tweaked to make it stronger and better in a little bit. you have been praise worthy in parts of it, critical in parts. >> we'll spend six months, october 1st to the end of march, enrolling people, making them what's available is important. i would say two things about the
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president's remarks. first, he is right, most of the stuff attacking the obama care is not based in reality. you get a lot of these comments, on average, insurance prices are going up 53%. the problem is on average is garbage in this area. you've got to look at particular people, are they 20-year-olds, 40-year-olds. most 45-year-olds their insurance prices will be going down because of the way the pricing is done in -- >> and many of them don't have health insurance. >> they have bad health insurance if they have it. the bill had many ways to protect young people. first on your parents plan until 26, until 30 you can get one of the catastrophic plans. that's pretty bare bones that's pretty cheap. we've seen in california prices for that group can be as low as $7 with the subsidies. let me make one other point. >> you have to make it fast. we have so many things to get to here. >> you're always so plentiful in your words. >> the next issue -- >> what's next in five seconds. >> we need more cost control and
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we need to focus on changing how we pay doctors and hospitals. that's really the next issue. >> exactly. >> we didn't do that much of it in the health care reform. i wish we had done more in the affordable care act. >> i agree with zeke. zeke you got to move on! i have four topics. there's this great "new york times" did you see the article about people with bipolar disorder being discriminated. >> i did see that. >> let me read this part and you can talk for five hours about it. >> speaking of bipolar. >> mentally ill and she goes on, and then says -- >> i don't know her. can't comment on that statement. >> except when i revealed it to a doctor, the revelation changes everything. it wipes clean the rest of my resume. my education, my accomplishments, reduces me to a diagnosis. i was surprised when after one of these run-ins the doctor said this sort of behavior was all too common. basically, people are finding we want to encourage people to go out and especially with bipolar
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disorder we're learning more about, mental health, when they do they're still facing discriminati discrimination. >> i don't know i would call it discrimination. doctors should -- we have an obligation to accept all patients whether we like what they are doing or don't. that's sometimes difficult just psychologically. i think the second issue is, sometimes she did mention she had a laundry list of medications and sometimes managing those patients, especially if you're not an expert in some of the psychiatric medications can be a challenge and whether it's discrimination or i can't handle that challenge and i'm not expert in it, i think that's part of the issue. but i do think, you know, unfortunately, not all doctors are virtuous and abide by the principles they're supposed to of taking everyone who comes in the door who they're competent to take. >> all right. >> that should be the goal. >> that should be. i'm told we have to go to a break but lightning round, are you ready? >> me talk fast. is that what you want? >> talk short.
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high blood sugar now being linked to dementia? >> lots of things are linked to dement dementia. high blood pressure, lack of activity is linked. >> is it a circulation issue are we starting to think. >> there's an overlap between alzheimer's and vascular where you have little strokes in the brain those are linked to the blood vessels that cause heart disease. that's no surprise. lack of mental acuity, lack of social interaction, lots of things linked to alzheimer's. like heart disease the best thing you can do for it is eat well, right, exercise and engage socially and make sure you're using your brain to your maximum. >> i got to do that. >> start running again. >> and start having sex, you say that's good. finally on -- we leave on this note, don't have time for zeke to talk about it for a couple minutes but a strong grandparent/grandchild relationship, reduces depression
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in both. >> look, good social relations are important, right if. we know that for keeping your head your mental acuity and lots of other things and so good relationships whether with a grandson or other people -- >> good social interactions. >> very important for keeping your brain working. >> okay. >> zeke, thank you. >> so many things i could say right now. >> all right, joe. >> zeke emanuel thank you so much. >> always a pleasure to be here. >> plenty of attention on russia ahead of the upcoming olympic games. the focus is less on sports and more on the country's anti-gay propaganda law. a live report from nbc's michele kosinski. >> she's everywhere. >> in moscow. we'll be right back. my mantra?
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35 past the hour. russia's new gay propaganda law is causing backlash with many protesters saying countries should boycott the winter olympics. joining us from moscow nbc news correspondent michele kosinski with the story. michele? >> hey, mika. right. this law passed unanimously in june. it bans the distribution of, quote, propaganda of nontraditional sexual relations to children.
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obviously ambiguous in meaning, but clear in intent. now that the winter olympics in sochi are right around the corner we are hearing strong reaction from top leaders in government, arts and sports. the glorious olympic replay, it's going the distance. usain bolt, riling up the crowd in sprint. but outside this stadium, what has spread is anger. protests in england, scotland, belgium, canada, the u.s. >> no more russian vodka. >> reporter: owners of gay bars dumped russian vodka. >> the law means you can be arrested if you say something even simply positive about being gay. >> reporter: that includes on the internet. no one is really sure how or how much this will be enforced but there have been arrests at protests and of some dutch filmmakers who interviewed a teenager about the gay community. it's drawn disgust from celebrities like lady gaga who tweeted, why didn't you arrest
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me when you had the chance, russia? because you didn't want to answer to the world? and world leaders, president obama trashed the law twice. >> nobody's more offended than me. >> reporter: but says a boycott of the sochi olympics that many now are calling for would only hurt athletes. former olympic diving champion greg lieu gains you who is gay agrees. >> make a statement that way. let them shine. >> reporter: some are already making statements. runner nick simmons competing now here in russia wrote on his blog in a race with a russian athlete, i will shake his hand, thank him for his country's generous hospitality and then after kicking his [ bleep ] in the race, silently dedicate this to my gay and lesbian friends back home. the olympic games need to be free of discrimination for everybody. they say that russia has reassured them this law would not affect athletes or attendees, but the russian sports minister says everybody
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is going to have to obey russian law. the ioc is asking russia again for more clarification. back to you guys. >> nbc's michele kosinski, thank you so much. up next, senator chuck schumer who has had plenty to say about russia's leadership. we'll talk about that and much more when "morning joe" comes right back. you make a great team.
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we're in conversations together, oftentimes it's very productive. >> 41 past the hour. joining us on set senator chuck schumer, very good to have you on board this morning, senator. let's talk about the cross currents in this relationship that we have with russia between the president and vladimir putin. they have, obviously, the situation with edward snowden. you have the olympics off in the distance, and you have syria, and you have what appears to be russia's president, i don't think, taking us seriously in anything he says. >> agree. and iran, he's the one worse than china on what will be in six, seven months if nothing changes the worse situation we have, putting all these others to shame. >> now we have senator john mccain criticizing the president for his choice of words on this and i wonder if the bigger problem is an overall strategy with russia and whether or not we have one? >> well, i think we have one and
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the president's doing his job by trying to keep thoe person-to-person relationship okay but if you talk to people within our state department and others, there's complete exaspiration. i've called putin a schoolyard ya bully and the only way you deal with bullies is stand up to them. it was a good move not going to the bilateral. i talked to john mccain about this. i would not pull out of the olympics because there's just too much -- >> is he suggesting we do? >> john -- i think lindsey did, lindsey graham suggested we did. too much. all these athletes train for so long. >> yeah. >> but in terms of the boycott that the lgbt community, i saw a column by frank bruni i thought it was. >> yeah. >> when we march initially all the countries should wave the multicolored flag for gay rights. that would be pretty embarrassing for putin. let our athletes participate and still make a stand. but standing up to putin, i
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think, is important right now because i think he's a bully. >> you say it would be embarrassing for putin. i agree with you. i think everyone agrees with you. would he care? what's the source of his resentment towards the united states on the world stage? >> my view and i think the view of many i talk to, being an old kgb guy, when the soviet union and united states went head to head, he resents russia has no longer the major power it used to be. the population with the states ukraine and the baltic states, east asian states gone, they're no longer a big power. >> they lost the empire. >> and he's trying to build it back. the way -- there are two ways. one is to grow the economy and make it a more robust, democratic place and new ideas. the other to step on somebody's back, namely ours, and he's doing the second way, and i don't think we should tolerate it. >> let's talk about what happens when the president comes back from vacation and congress gets back from their five-week recess. anything new going to happen?
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this has been a year of one frustration after another not only for you, but for anybody that wants to get things done. >> i'm a little more optimistic. i think we're going to get an immigration bill. >> do you really? >> i see green sprouts so to speak. republican leadership is talking about things they didn't before. >> like what? >> like some form of path to citizenship, whether it's a dream act or allowing those that cross the border illegally to use existing means. that's not as far as we would go. there's lots of people this august, businesses, evangelical churches, growers, farmers, lobbying their congress members, a whole bunch now have come out for immigration reform who are republican house members. i think we're going to get a bill and i think that speaker boehner, leader mcconnell know it's the right thing to do. >> even in the house? you think there's going to be a pathway to citizenship? >> a bill both sides can support at the end of the day. i think the republican party knows deep in its heart that if they stay anti-immigrant they're a minority party.
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i also think the economic conservetivetives are for this strongly whether the cato institute or "the wall street journal" editorial page. >> what if the house comes back -- i don't think they're going to give a path to citizenion, my gut. what if they say we're fine with a plan that legalizes their status but doesn't grant citizenship. >> they tried it in europe. you know, they have these workers who come here illegal but never become citizens. it's two classes of people. they get frustrated and angry. that's not america. we've always said to people, you can be an american. >> you have to make the choice between keeping these millions of workers in the shadows or legalizing them. giving them legal status. if that's the only choice you take you would take that choice, wouldn't you? >> i don't think i would. that's not the only choice. i think the best -- >> i'm saying if that was your choice at the end -- >> i'm not going to get there because i don't think it will happen. >> you would take it. come on.
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>> nope. i would not. we have always stood, even in our group of 8, gang of 8, we said, one thing that's bottom line is there has to be some path to citizenship. it's long and hard and by the way -- >> what if it's a path for citizenship for the children, but -- >> now you're getting a little closer. but what the number one cry of the hard right is, these people shouldn't gain an advantage by crossing the border. over others. we will do that. >> you said that's a cry of the hard right. there are a lot of immigrants from eastern europe and asia, like wait a second, why should i deal -- >> yes. >> with immigration services for a decade and a guy walks across a border and he gets in front of me? somebody from ukraine, that's not fair. >> here's what's little known. our bill deals with that. if you went to the embassy let's say in mexico city in 2006 and filed and patiently waited and someone else crossed the border in 2008, the 2006 guy goes
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first. our bill deals with that issue. you're right. that is not just a cry of the hard right. that seems fair to me. >> yeah. >> we put it in our bill. that's why some of the people on the left didn't like such a long path, 13 years. before the first person in the whole thing becomes a citizen and only if first time learn english for a green card, first time go to the back of the line, pay a fine, admit wrong doing. it's not amnesty, that's for sure. >> this builds off your question, joe, you come in with a pathway to citizenship. if the house comes in with a dream act or a modified -- i don't think they want to call it a dream act, but whatever, what then is your bridge to the pathway? how do you bridge those? >> there will have to be discussions in conference or preconference but then we're making progress. a month ago they were saying no bill. then people were saying, well, you know, maybe we'll just have legalization. now some are talking about some form of path to citizenship.
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the trend is moving in our direction. and when members hear from the leading companies in their district, from the leading farmers in their district, from the leading baptists evangelical churches in their district you got to do this, at least they're of the view -- they may not want to vote for it but no longer of the view if boehner puts this on the floor his speakership is over like a small group on the hard right is saying. so it's changing. and it's moving in our direction. and i am on this issue optimistic and the one other thing, what always gets us most lagerheads as you know, it's spending. we don't spend a nickel. all the money for this bill, toughening up the border, we are so tough on the border we get criticized from the other side, it's all paid for by the fines on the illegal immigrants and the companies that are paying to bring engineers and other high-skilled people in. >> senator chuck schumer thanks. always great to see you. >> senator, great to -- >> still ahead, he plays for
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hey, with us now, u.s. soccer star clint dempsey who made his major league soccer return this weekend when he took the field on saturday with the sounders. dempsey signed with them earlier this month, shocking a lot of people. after playing six years in london. i saw you live at crayton college. just been a huge fan of yours. just been a great season. to thenham last year. you decided to come home. if i sound shocked, i mean, a lot of people that follow, you know, european soccer things this would be like, you know, somebody coming playing aaa baseball. tell us why we're wrong. >> the way i looked at it was i was over in europe for, you know, quite a bit of time and thought i did a good job when i was there. it got more difficult every year
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to try to come back for preseason when you're spending time in the summer with the family. it's always been difficult trying to find that balance. that self- -- being a little more selfish about being career driven, at the same time, that balance of trying to be around your family as much as possible. >> people don't realize, if you're a baseball fan, you think baseball goes year round, soccer, seriously it starts on saturday, epl. it ends in may. i mean, basically you're playing 12 months around. it's got to be tough on not only the legs but the family, like you said. >> it's tough it everybody has to deal with it. like you said, year round because you're playing club ball. playing for the national team. so, you know, you're always -- you got to play while you can. it was important for me to company back to the united states when i was in my prime. i wanted to compae back so i wod
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make an impact in the league. there's a lot more quality than there used to be. i didn't want to come back when i was past it. i'm glad i could come back. >> mike, his home debut, august 25th, already sold out, 66,000 tickets sold in seattle. >> you get great cities like seattle, portland, oregon, all sorts of cities in this country, filled with soccer enthusiasts. tremendous athletes on the field. what are the keys for growing the sport for most americans? how do you grow the sport, the professional aspect of the sport? >> it's a good question. i think they're starting to do a lot of things with the academies coming up. kids are not having to pay so it's able to reach out to all walks of life. for me, i was fortunate enough to have parents who were crazy enough to drive me to dallas so i could get the best club
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coaching and three hours back. it was a real grind on us. if we weren't able to do that financially, maybe i wouldn't have gotten the looks. if you're on a club team, that helps you get in college showcases which allow you to try to get a college scholarship. now it's kind of like -- that was our gamble, our way of trying to make it. >> for kids that are listening and for parents that are listening, what is your best advice for how you become -- how do you go from a 10-year-old that just loves playing on saturdays, as mike said, to somebody that might want to play either professionally hear or overseas? >> yeah, i would say just find out as much as you can about the sport. play as much as possible. i was playing pick up. i was playing, you know, men's league on sunday against some of the hispanics in the city i was in. i was playing high school ball. i was playing club ball. so play as month as possible. watch as many games as possible. try to figure out the style you want to play, you know, how you
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want to impact games and try to try out for many as teams as possible. try to go to academies if you're not able to do the club side. try to put yourself in situation, to get seen and try to get looks. >> here we go. >> you're in. >> i wish you had gone to liverpool but we need all the help we can get. it's getting uglier. they're going to have to sell the team soon, suarez. what a nightmare. very exciting for the mls. i know it's great for your family. but it's also great for a league that has needed stars, as you said, in their prime. i love henry, man. >> that's a great point. a lot of the stars come back at a point in which they're sort of a bit past their prime. >> what's your prediction for the u.s. team in the world cup? >> we have four qualifying games left. we have to at least win one game. then we qualify.
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and then the goal's always make it out of the group stage. and then if you make it out the group stage, it's kind of like making it to playoffs. on any given day, you bring your best, you can do something special. that's something we did in confederations cup. >> he just predicted. we're going to win the world cup. clint, thank you so much. good luck in seattle. we'll be right back. h back, which is deposited in your fidelity account. is that it? actually... there's no annual fee and no limits on rewards. and with the fidelity cash management account debit card, you get reimbursed for all atm fees. is that it? oh, this guy, too. turn more of the money you spend into money you invest. it's everyday reinvesting for your personal economy. they're the days to take care of business.. when possibilities become reality. with centurylink as your trusted partner, our visionary cloud infrastructure
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>> it's not bad. you get a little bit of sleep. >> back with us on set, we have robert gibbs and rich haass. in iowa, it looks like 2016. presidential contenders descended over the weekend to test the waters for a possible white house run. among the would-be candidates, rick santorum and senator ted cruz. >> my challenge to the republican party is to take a page out of our book. and start putting forth an agenda. of ideas to raise up folks who want to vote for us. you saw it from the last election. they didn't want to vote for president obama. but at least he went out and talked to them. at least he went out and spoke about them. we didn't do that. we marginalized them. >> there is no more important regulatory reform that we can do than to repeal every single word of obama care.
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and that reaction right there shows how we win this fight. >> that's it, richard. that's what it's doing. don't you think? >> what's that? >> creating a lot of space for chris christie, just listing those guys. no, is that wrong? >> possible. >> all right. so what we're looking at here, the group, emily's list -- >> people creating a lot of space for hillary? >> oh, stop. yes, actually. as senator claire mccaskill explained, it's pretty clear who they're talking about. take a listen. >> we have to have millions of people engaged and ready for what will be a pivotal race in american's history, in america's history, and that is about getting everyone excited now about what i hope will be that moment in 2017 when we all get
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to say, madam president, to hillary rodham clinton. >> all righty then. as for vice president joe biden, he's set to attend a major political event in iowa next month. the annual steak fry is known for -- no, you can't go, joe -- attracting top-te tier democrat considering a white house run. kasie hunt was in iowa for these events. where do you want to start? >> it's sort of deja vu all over again. i feel like the republicans never really stopped. it didn't seem like rick santorum was actually campaigning essentially. he drove across the state in the same pickup truck he used in 2012. he hit a pizza ranch, went to blue bunny ice cream, so -- >> you sound tired, was it boring? just admit it. >> no, no, it was great.
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>> robert gibbs, it's so early. >> come on, now. >> come on, man, it's so early but they're all there. >> poor kasie, had to go. >> it's only about 1,150 days and you'll be done with the pizza ranch so -- >> well, it is early. democratic side, republican side, i mean -- >> it's crazy. >> on the democratic side too, the hillary event was interesting. you'll remember, she said before she even ran, in 2008, robert will remember all of this i'm sure, that iowa has never elected a woman to either a federal office or the govern governorship. hillary made that point herself beforehand and ultimately went on to lose to obama in iowa, ultimately the beginning of the end for her. there was definiteliening hanging over the event on friday, they wanted to demonstrate that the state itself is ready to pick a woman in the next upcoming contest. >> there are now reports that fox tv studios will produce the
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nbc miniseries starring diane lane. >> so fox is going to make money off hillary. >> right. >> okay, so if you're not doing cnn and you're not doing nbc and now you can't do fox -- >> crossover -- >> that leaves what, i guess abc and cbs. >> but priebus doesn't think fox's involvement has any bias. >> they're making the movie. >> saying it's totally ridiculous and stupid -- >> but hold on, but the rnc understand this, they -- i mean, fox -- the rnc needs to understand that fox is going to make the movie. >> right. >> they're making it. >> hike nbc entertainment was -- >> and it's like, it's like, you know, you paint the mona lisa and you hand it to an art gallery and they go "yeah, we'll
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sell it." they're painting it and all they're doing is going, yeah, well sell it. fox is actually making it, right? >> i think this little narrative is collapsing underneath him. >> what do you mean? fox is making the money. i don't understand. >> focus on the one thing that was clear. tried to help him. anyhow -- >> i don't understand, so fox is making this? >> let's take a listen to what he had to say. >> the big question for me, candy is number one which company is putting it on the air, who's doing the work. i'm not interested in they're using the same caterer or whether they all drink diet coke. i'm not boycotting diane lane. i'm going to boycott the company that puts the miniseries and the documentaries on the air for the american people to view. >> i like him a lot and i think we've all been in that position where you're having to defend something that's pretty hard to defend. >> i don't know what you're talking about. what do you mean? >> he is unfortunately for my
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good friend, he just found out that fox is making -- they're actually making the movie. they're making the movie. so this is -- >> you can't pick and choose. >> he's going to -- >> ready, fire aim, i think. the entertainment sections of any television networks making something that is clearly belongs in the news division is a bad idea, i think the notion that we're going to do this and we're going to do it early enough as somebody said so people won't ask for equal time. again, i think it's a bad idea. what was also -- what was equally a bad idea is a party that needs greatly to expand its base. saying, i'm just going to basically -- i'm just going to appear basically on one network and hope that somehow expands the base. his own report, his postmortem, if you will, on the election, said we needed to expand the base. we needed to talk to more
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people. you know, it's a bit over the -- >> he is, and i'm sure he never saw this coming. i said last week if i were in his position, i would be angry. you have to be careful about the boycotting stuff because it always comes up and blows up in your face. this case, mickey, you were just saying last week, doesn't fox, don't they have an entertainment division? and sure enough, here we come. and it hits him in the -- >> i also think more than half of what the chairman was doing was working the refs. more than half of what has weigh doing was making sure for a diane lane miniseries, when they get around to writing a script, somebody in the back of their mind will say, let's be overly fair or let's be too fair. that's in many ways all of what he's doing. i will say this, i'm not sure that those in the clinton orbit would think too keen on either of these documentaries as well.
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>> you just need to be really careful about this. if you're the rnc. i want to follow up with something robert said. i think it's very important. the rnc after action report did say this. i was saying this all along. the reason why the romneys woke up on the election they thing they're going to win, the reason why the romney campaign woke up believing they're going to win. the reason conservatives kept yelling to me from september on saying, you're rooting for obama. no, their campaign stinks. they have to do this, this, this, and they're not doing it. they were inside the bubble. they thought i was from mars. or at least msnbc. i was right, they were wrong. why? because they were in the bubble. they were preaching to the choir. you know, if i'm a candidate in a general election and i want to get my message out, the last thing i want is to just preach to my choir. that's a recipe for failure
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again. >> it makes sense. the argument from conservatives would be when a democrat preaches to the choir, it's a larger choir. they would say it's the whole media. that's not enough to win a broad national election. >> if i'm running a republican primary, there's no place i want to be other than fox news. nothing else, i mean, ton me, would matter. a national primary. a news channel. i want to be on fox news. but if i'm a party that is shrinking and who has lost 5 out of the last 6 popular votes, i want to get out on every channel, every network. i want to be at the teen choice awards. >> exactly. after the white house canceled president obama's meeting with rush president vladimir putin there are big questions today about where that relation stands. president obama spoke about it during friday's news conference and his remarks prompted a challenge from senator john
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mccain who says the president should be doing more to push back against moscow. >> i don't have a bad personal relationship with putin. when we have conversations, they're candid, they're blunt. oftentimes they're constructive. i know the press likes to focus on body language and he's got that kind of slouch. looking like the bored kid in the back of the classroom. but the truth is, when we're in conversations together, oftentimes it's very productive. >> the president comparing him to a kid in the back of a classroom i think is very indicative of the president's lack of appreciation of how putin is. we also need very badly to understand that mr. putin does not have the united states/russia relationships in any priority, and treat him in a realistic fashion. that's the way to treat mr. putin.
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not just canceling a meeting. >> all right, just, you know, making an issue about one comment as it pertain, to putin is doing the same thing in my opinion. vladimir putin seems to be mocking us every step of the way. i don't have a problem with the analogy. i can think of more strong targeted analogies actually. >> comparing the nsa program to doing the dishes at the white house -- >> it's odd language for a person who's actually behaved very oddly over the past two years as far as we've seen. >> richard's talking about, the president of the united states -- >> i'm talking about -- i do agree that it's odd language to use about vladimir putin i do. but look at this guy. >> do you think he's on human growth -- >> oh, god, i just want to be sick. all right, come on. >> look, russia's a spoiler. this is no longer a great power. this is a country of 143 million
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people. the population till the last year or so has been shrinking. it's a one dimensional economy. it's a country economically and politically controlled by a handful of people. it's a spoiler. >> do you agree with john mccain's critique of the president? >> that's where i disagree with john which is, okay, but they're still out there, they city matter. they can supply arms to the syrians. look, we don't like 'em but what's the best way to deal with 'em? one option for the president would have been going to moscow. having a really tough meeting with putin. and then going public. look, putin is worried more than anything else about his domestic political base. he's worried about a moscow spring. he knows he has virtually no political legitimacy. what happens if people come out in the streets? does putin kill them? whatever little legitimacy he has, that shred of it disappears. all i'm saying is we need a long-run approach. meanwhile, kerry and hagel are
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meeting with their counterparts. like it or not, the russians can be spoilers. whether we go to moscow this time or not. >> i thought it was really telling when, richard, you'll know this, all of the words you describe, a summit meeting or discussion that doesn't go well, diplomatically, we were candid, we were frank. sometimes it was actually productive. i mean, but that is the set of words that you use to describe anything that is tremendously challenging. >> yeah. >> and he could have picked any word to describe those conversations. and he picked the words that describe the challenging relationship. as richard said, of a country that isn't going to set the agenda for the world but can certainly augment where the world wants to go through the security -- >> example of syria. coming up on "morning joe," an extraordinary talent from the stage and screen.
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rita more reyna is standing by. what she's learned from over 50 years in the public eye. >> her book is out now in spanish. >> okay. >> i read it this weekend. >> in the original. >> up next, fast company takes a look at king bezos. inside the plan to make amazon the most loved company in the world. editor bob safian joins us in a moment. first, a check of the forecast. >> we're focusing attention on flooding. we had massive flooding over the weekend back near colorado springs. look at this massive mudslide. it was just tossing cars. this is a deadly flash flood situation. also in that area is the waldorf canyon fire a year ago, so that's why without the vegetation that water has nowhere to go and creates these dangerous and deadly mudslides. the same situation in place today with that monsoonal moisture bringing isolated
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jeff bezos, the ceo of amazon.com, just bought "the washington post" for $250 million. yeah. it was weird, he just walked into "the post" headquarters and said "add to cart." >> jeff bezos, the founder of amazon, has purchased "the washington post" for $250 million. yeah, he said last night, like most amazon customers, he was drunk and buying crap on the internet he didn't need. >> wow, okay. here with us now, bob safian, the cover story in the magazine's latest issue is "king bezos, inside the secret three-part plan to make amazon
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the most loved company in the world." mike barnicle, harold ford jr. back with us as well. this guy has never gotten the publicity that some of the bigger ceos, some of the other ceos, there's not a bigger ceo, but he is really one of the most transformative people, other than steve jobs. >> he's the heir, at this point, if there's someone that's going to take that mantel, you know, it's king bezos. he's the guy who is driving the agenda in business in a way that others aren't. in recent polls, amazon has become named the most trusted brand in the world. the most trusted company. surpassing apple. so they're really reaching -- reaching to consumers. >> so here's part of your cover story by j.j. mckorvey. amazon has done a lot more than become a stellar retailer. it has reinscented, disrupted and innovated the global marketplace. last year e-commerce sales
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around the world surpassed $1 trillion for the first time. amazon accounted for more than 5% of that volume. amazon's increasing dominance is now less about what it sells than how it sells. and that portends a second wave of change that will further devastate competitors and transform retail again. bezos has turned amazon into an unprecedented speed demon that can give you anything you want right now. >> you know, it's really -- it is unbelievable how shopping has changed. i'm 800 years old. i buy shoes now on amazon.com. and i buy used cars on ebay. i mean, it's -- again, all from my cell phone. >> there was a point, right, where walmart was the driving force in retail. the discussion was always about price. and what bezos has recognized now it's price and speed. so you have to get that good price. you want to have it now. you buy something and it's going
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to be delivered to you. we're used to going to a store to be able to get something. now you're talking about next day delivery. same day delivery. it's going to be included in all prices. and when that happens, your whole expectation on your interaction with the shopping experience and with the retail is going to be completely -- >> it's stunning. again, i'm talked before about like sitting watching kids soccer practice going, oh, i need such and such. which, you know, would have been in the past a 45-minute trip over to best buy -- >> where it may not be in stock. >> now i sit in the chair, watching my kids play soccer and go, oh, boop, i can by jack's birthday present now. >> if you're that store you're going to go to and now you're going to amazon, you're buying it that way, that store, like what do they do? >> why would i go to that store? >> that store has to be on amazon. >> is that not one of the most compelling aspects of amazon? think of it as the store. think of you as the customer going into the store
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electronically. their customer i.d. in marketing. they know exactly who you are when you go online. where does this go? what's the inevitable end result? they know all of our habits. they know he like, shoes, he likes soccer shoes or whatever. >> they're the ones who have the data about us, much more than the government does, let's be clear. it's a question of what they're going to do with that. i think what amazon wants to do as a business is become a platform. so that they're not just using your data. every store is operating with amazon as the backbone. if you're that store, than sports store, that you would go to get your kid's shoes from, you can get all of that service, but amazon is running it on the back end and you don't realize you're doing it. then those stores are all beholden to amazon. amazon become, a plat for in the say way the app store is a platform for -- >> how quickly can you buy something on amazon? >> from the moment mike started doing a little experiment here,
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i remember those shoes i had and i loved -- >> please don't get anymore. >> i lost them in one of our 1,000 trips, you know, transferring so i'm going to order them in the next two minutes. >> via amazon prime, which is a service amazon has that's growing dramatically, three two-day and next-day shipping, right. and they're investing in fulfillment centers closer to areas so it's going to get to the place it's got to be. same-day shipping. >> speaking of how big this platform is, obviously has reached into journalism. how do you apply -- how do you think he applied that to journalism? the next question would be, where does it stop? is he able to better deliver education, health care with this platform? i'm just curious, what are the thoughts, the plans? >> when you look at what he's attempting to do or what his purchase of "the washington post" means, right, he is someone who recognizes the advantages of multiple platforms. i think he will push that
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through with the washington post. he's also incredibly patient. he's been that way as a business person. i think that's what he's going to be also as an owner of "the washington post." it is a very different kind of business. very different kind of business. >> so, you know, ten years ago, i got these shoes. i would have gotten them 'cause they're just sort of beach-type shoes. >> they're definitely unusual. >> you're not getting them yourself. >> they're very easy. so in 20 seconds, you know, i went back, i looked at my old orders. i ordered another one. and your order's been placed and i'm going to get it in the next two days. by the way, i just didn't -- i did it sitting right here. >> bezos says no one goes and says, i wish i could pay more for that, right? no one says, i wish it took longer for me to get it. the combination those things is where he's orchestrating his business to be able to deliver. so that those human needs, those common reactions. yes, i want it to be cheaper. i want it to be faster.
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that's the way -- >> and it's so convenient, you do it while you're working. i went christmas shopping. i wake up early even on the weekends. 5:00 a.m., i wake up. lying in bed. >> content on "washington post" too. where you want that content, in what form. can it be available to you so it's convenient? i think he recognizes quality content is valuable, right? having a distinctive audience of sale, having quality content. that's what he's purchased. getting it out to the right audience. >> all right so what's the bad part of this story? what's the counter? what's the other side? is there another side? it feels like a commercial. >> if you're on the other side -- >> yeah. >> listen, disruption is great when you're leading the disrupti disruption. when you're on the other end, you have to react to it. if you're that store used to selling shoes -- >> best buy in 2002, 2003, they were massive. everybody went there. >> so it's killing a lot of -- >> now, am i going to go into best buy? i love best buy.
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am i going to go into best buy and look at a tv set? or am i going to sit here and order it cheaper, faster? and it comes to my house? >> it puts a lot more pressure on retail outlets to deliver distinctive service when you get into those stores. you have to do something special that is better and different than what you can get on that machine. >> they better have paul mccartney singing "let it be" because there's not a lot they can do to get me to drive 45 minutes to a best buy store. >> jeff bought the "washington post" with a single click. >> drunk shopping. >> you know, much of what's in this piece, if you are talking about this earlier, if you thought about much of the things that are in this piece three years ago, you say, well, that's incomprehensible. three years from now, what we would be talking about in terms of amazon, do we know? >> i'm not sure we know. i'm not sure they know. i know that they are working on a range of ideas of things that will make that consumer experience more compelling. they're basically trying to
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convince us, get us used to as consumers a world where things come to us instantly. once that happens, we'll be that much more beholden to them. exactly how that gets implemented. there's lots of varieties. >> you know what i'm going to be next. >> what are you going to buy? >> rita morena's book. i want that jacket. i think it will look very good on me. >> it would. "king bezos," "fast company" is out right now. bob, thank you very much. receiving the screen actor's guild life achievement award. there's plenty of reasons why. she join us next on "morning joe." right now, 7 years of music is being streamed. a quarter million tweeters are tweeting.
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he is one of them! >> no. a boy like that. ♪ would kill your brother ♪ forget that boy and find another ♪ ♪ one of your own kind ♪ stick to your own kind >> i'm going to put that in my bedroom. brando had it right. >> that was a good picture. why don't you share it with the panel, joe, make everyone -- >> and while i'm looking for it,
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why don't you -- >> that was rita morena in her academy-award winning performance in the 1961 film "west side story." rita's also the winner of the tony, grammy and emmy awards. soon, she'll be adding the screen actor's guild life achievement award. gosh, that's a lot of awards. her memoir's now also available in spanish. she joins us now on the set because we love spending time with you. >> we love you. >> i love being here. >> i'm going to show the picture. >> you're going to pit your little finger over my behind. >> the only picture in marlon brando's house making out with you. >> she just asked robert gibbs if he was a shoe man. >> he did notice my shoes. men don't usually do that. >> it's like the -- >> what do you think of that? >> seriously, those legs, what is going on here? >> unbelievable. unbelievable. >> all right, barnacle. >> unlike gibbs, i am a shoe
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man. >> you're a shoe man? >> i think barnicle is sort of -- >> i think he was. >> well, my husband was a fanny man. >> okay. >> he could not pass by me in the kitchen without just running his hand over my buttocks. i thought that was very sweet. and the only way i knew -- >> which is great as long as you're not the mayor of san diego. >> exactly. >> i think that's very sweet. >> when he was angry, he wouldn't do it and i thought, oh, i need to talk to him. >> you've done something -- >> can i tell you about shirley mcclane? >> please. >> which has nothing to do with this book. >> now out in spanish. >> well, i was in the hotel lobby -- this has nothing to do with anything. i thought -- >> that's othkay, that's what t show is about. >> i went to say hello, and it was all very pleasant, just took a couple minutes.
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she said, i understand you wrote a book and i understand it's doing well and you talked about marl marlon. and i said, i did. i went to make my good-byes. she said, by the way, say hello to marlon. i said, shirley, he's dead. >> awkward. >> she said, right. i'll say hello. >> oh, oh, that's good. 'cause she's -- she goes beyond -- >> it takes a while. >> i'll say hello. >> oh, my lord. >> funny lady. >> is she nice? >> oh, yeah. >> what did you expect her to say? >> i don't know. >> she's got to say she's nice. see, she's got both ways. she's covered those bases. but you dond't ever ask a guest -- >> before this lecture, can i interrupt -- >> by the way, it's now out in spanish. >> you said you read it this morning in spanish? [ speaking foreign language ]
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>> you know what we say in my country? [ speaking foreign language ] >> we really seriously -- >> will you work with joe in spanish? >> what? >> far from it. >> oh, yeah, my mother would call him yo. my mother would say -- she said to my husband to be many years ago -- [ speaking foreign language ] and my husband said what? and my poor husband to be got so nervous, he said yes. she really had trouble. she used to change the sheets on the bed. did i just get beeped? >> no, you can do that. what is going on? >> somebody get the car out of the ditch. >> aren't you glad i came? brightened up your morning.
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>> we always are. >> so tell us about for those who didn't watch you last time you were here, and of course i look at the tape every day. it's an amazing moment in my life. talk about this book. why people need to go out and buy it right now. >> it's very simple really. because it's a story you haven't read yet about someone coming from another country. and the journey that this person has to make because they are from another country and they speak another language. more than that, i think what's interesting about it, a lot of people tell me, is it covers a period that no longer is this in hollywood. with all the biases and prejudices. playing all these princesses that i played. girls that say things like, why you no love me no more? >> you played indians, you played arabs -- >> everything with a dusky skin. the funny thing, i didn't know what to do about an accent so i made up a universal accent. >> let's hear it. >> well, it doesn't matter.
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if i was polynesian, arabian, whatever. i would talk the same way. they all sounded the same. what are you looking at right? the. >> about you and elvis. >> oh, elvis. >> can i read this on the air? >> no, you can't. in a way, that's a teaser. the reason it didn't work with elvis is not translatable to television. but it's good. >> elvis and i were in perfect sync. i would love somebody -- >> we rolled -- >> i was just reading paragraph two which i've marked in the book but i'm not going to attempt to even -- >> oh, you dirty, dirty man. >> how were you and elvis in perfect sync? >> we really weren't. >> why did you write that? >> i was going -- >> i don't know what i'm saying there. >> in context it says they weren't but that was after -- >> the ambivalence. just didn't work, did it? it just didn't really -- >> ships in the night as it
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were. >> yeah, come on. >> interesting times. >> got very angry because he was cheating on me so when i heard -- kernel parker called me. did i tell you that? >> what was colonel parker like? >> he said, miss rita? this is colonel parkparker, and wanted to say "no kidding?" he said, my client, elvis presley, would like very much to meet you. i was so mad at marlo, i said, yes, i would. went ballistic. he broke chairs. it was wonderful. >> it was great. elvis, biggest star in the world. >> the two kings. >> but you found him boring. >> the king rock 'n' roll and the king of movies, drama. >> yeah, but he was boring, elvis. >> he was young. he was very sweet. he was no hound dog, let's put it that way. >> what does that mean?
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>> well, read the book. >> if you read page 170, you'll know exactly what i'm talking about. >> he didn't know his way around the dog pound, that's what -- >> i love being here. >> so marlon, you do take, though, some pride in the fact, don't you? not pride, it's the wrong word. it really means something to you that marlon, has this crazy life, and there's only one picture. because you've said it a couple of times before. he only has one picture up in his house. that's of you. >> me with him. >> i didn't really know this but i think he never got over me. which is very interesting. i didn't find that out till i heard the picture was in the house and it was auctioned. it's a picture i gave him. which now i'm sorry i don't have. >> and you're going to receive the screen actor's guild life achieveme achievement. this is a slam dunk. you should have got this like 50
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years ago. >> this is the close et thing to an oscar. i am so pleased. and, you know, it's always the business of -- and i'm a latina and i'm a puerto rican person. i have some lovely hardware at home from all these events. >> well, congratulations on this latest one. being, once again on the book. rita, thank you so much. >> we're not sure what just happened here but we want it to happen again. >> yeah, a lot. >> come back. >> that's what you said before. >> and you came back. >> i did. this is the most fun i ever have on television because you know why, because nobody calls me in advance and says, so tell me about yourself so we can use the material. i hate that. >> contrived. nothing here is planned. >> tell me a funny story so i can tell joe and mika. like, ech. >> exactly. >> page 170 -- >> i think you've proven today we don't prepare for any of these interviews. you never know what the hell is going to happen. >> you needed robert gibbs to
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start this with the shoes. >> you love robert. >> i do love him. i love him even more now that he love, my shoes. >> we found out -- oh, robert. >> there you go. >> you don't get this on bbc america. rita, thank you so much. congratulations again. we love you. coming up next, mika. >> reports say there's a due date for the new iphone. what apple is planning for the latest version of the best selling device. is it going to be boring? is it going to be like the samsung? business headlines next. hero: if you had a chance to go anywhere in the world,
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