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do you to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. a female inmate's outgoing personality comes in handy for shopping with other people's money. >> what girl doesn't love to shop. i love to shop. i was just going about it the wrong way. >> a gang member's injuries leave him especially vulnerable. >> there have been some issues in the past of former gang members couldn't go anywhere
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near the accused child molesters. you didn't do that. you were putting somebody at great risk. >> a deputy takes a chance on putting sworn enemies together for an unconventional church is service. >> hallelujah. >> the problem with that is we are motioning everybody together and stuff can go sideways at any minute. >> and we wanted to be one of the leaders in this area. do something good for the earth. >> the jail's efforts to achieve a notable goal. >> lockup. you can say that. >> the santa reis a jail consume is 113 acres of land in the foothills just outside
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oakland, california. open in 1989 it has bed space for more than 4100 inmates. while some convicted most of currently charged with crimes and waiting trial or the resolution of their cases. men and women are housed in separate areas but all wear jail issued scrubs. eat the same food and sleep on the same thin mattresses. yet, as danielle benafield proves, individuality is hardly lacking here. >> she doesn't have a decibel limit. >> she tends to be what i would call one of our problem children. >> girl show she told me yesterday wake up. >> she leaks a lot of attention. >> i know how you to use my mouth. i mean, you know, talking. >> i am just a people person.
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i'm a social butterfly. this is how i do my time. >> i always have my makeup and hair done, you know, radiant. that is the reputation i have in here. some call me diva. i am a bit of a shop-aholic. i am in here for stealing people's stuff and shopping. >> benafield has had several prior convictions for theft and burglary but never served more than 90 days. this time the judge gave her five years and 8 months. she is eligible for release in half that time. >> what girl doesn't love to shop. i love to shop and i was going about it the wrong way. >> benafield says her primary m.o. was not to steal from stores but other shoppers. >> i always wanted to look the part when i got. always got dressed and did my makeup professionally and then
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go out there and steal so the attention wasn't drawn on me because i'm looking like an ordinary shopper. >> ladies would put their purses in the buggy and i would reach in their purse and get the wallet. mainly getting gift cards. if i take all of the time looking through clothes that is too much time and you might get the credit card turned off. would so i would get gift cards and i would leave. >> as her confidence rose so did her bold glance this was a particular time where i took this lady's wallet and i was talking to her. i was talking to her and i had my hand in her purse. she had a coin purse and i kind of felt it and got it and about put it under my jacket and skid her purse back up and we were talking for two or three more minutes. this lady went to a different aisle and i looked you under my jacket and in thual let was $800 plus one credit card. so i hit the jackpot.
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>> benafield admits the latest arrest may be due to her wanting an even better deal. she used a stolen credit card to buy groceries but also used h her frequent shopper card to get a discount. >> got my discount and it came back as danielle benafield and that is how they tracked me he down. >> kite of a hoot that you were trying to save money off of stolen money any how. it wasn't even your money. >> when you make conversation and you are nervous at the same time. that wasn't my first time doing that. >> what would you be doing if you hadn't got the caught. >> i would still be doing my crime. my mind was set to this is material stuff, they can get it back, they will get over it. didn't have any remorse for are it at all. >> jail does not allow for the stylish lifestyle benafield
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enjoyed on the streets but hasn't suppressed her desear for it. earring come in the the form of small stickers from fruit trays. >> i take it off and take the sticker and kind of like rip it in half and then rip it in half again and then just stick it like on my ears. kind of yellow earrings. that is how i do it. >> a far cry from nordstrom. >> this is no nordstrom or macy's but i have to settle for this. >> individuality is also alive and well in the men's protective custody unit. that is where arguetta is living out the parole
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violation. >> i live my life as a female. i do a lot of feminine things. >> still thinking about the section change. it requires a lot of therapy and counseling and money, you know, about thing is not the best thing i can do. >> but argueta's means of obtaining money is what brought him to jail. three years earlier he was convicted of robbery. after serving nearly a year in jail he was released on parole. he recent violated while being out past his curfew. >> violating my curfew i'm committing another crime which is prostitution. i get in the car with an undercover and thinking it is a john and lord it is a cop. i get arrested. i'm thinking i'm going home 30 days later. no, they gave me six months. >> starting at age 18, argueta
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has had numerous stays at santa rita for not only robbery and prostitution but drug possession and various parole violations. >> you. >> i sell my beauty. >> that is another word for prostitution. >> argueta has found a confy daunt in his new cell mate john mcfarland. >> i know how to ask for what i want. >> how do you do that? >> depends on the individual when they pull up. what kind of car they are driving. >> pretend i'm pulling up into a buick. [ laughter ] >> i'm going to run and pretend like you say pull up a mercedes-benz and look like a drunk white man. if they don't ask i won't tell. >> tell what? >> that i was a guy and i will jump in and do my job as quick as possible. satisfy them and get out. no talking. no nothing. there has been several times where i can see them from the
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corner of my wees they were you know looking at me like what is going on here, something is not the right. >> do you ever surprise the clients? >> i surprise guys all the time. >> have they ever got upset? >> yeah. it as good money, you know and it pays the bills, you know. it also got me locked up. >> coming up. she was kind of like rubbing on my leg. >> danielle benafield lands in segregation for are fighting but says it was the other person's fault. >> and this is how it came to be. god said go to the gangbangers. >> accuse the of a heinous cream one inmate finds a way to bring natural enemies together for a peaceful gathering. card,. it's digital, uh, pretty cool right? maybe. you know why i pulled you over today?
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to fence, the santa rita jail near oakland is a sprawling mega jail. it serves as the temporary home to more than 3,000 men and women who are assigned to housing units based on whether or not they are charged with violent crimes and their disciplinary histories within the jail. there are also 190 mail inmates assigned to the protective custody or pc units. >> basically any inmates that they can't walk on the mainline or general population because they will get assaulted be other prisoners. >> most move there voluntarily. they wear red uniforms to be quickly identified by staff but also have significant differences. they include gay inmates. those who have turned on gangs and face retributions and accused sex offenders. >> makes it safe for inmates themselves and safer for the staff. >> even in pc where violence is
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rare the jail teaks no chances. it is separate units for gang dropouts and accused sex offenders in order to apa void conflict. gabriel taylor's attitude towards sex offenders is typical. >> a child mow hefter. a piece of [ bleep ]. is the scum of the erg. i have been to prison and i her them yelling on the tier. they are gettin getting pulp bd up. i don't have no remorse for them. >> issues in the past of former gang members couldn't go now where near the accused child molesters. you didn't do that. you were putting them at great risk. >> once a wreak they congregate for an unusual inmate led church service. >> when i say hallelujah, hey hallelujah after me. >> hallelujah. >> hallelujah! >> dep at the veils helps facilitate the service.
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>> with this church these guys have gone from judging other people based on their crime to judging them as the men they are in here are which i have never seen. >> when i'm there i'm there for the sole purpose of jesus. i'm there to right my wrongs. wrong is wrong and sin is sin. i'm not contradicting myself but i will even shake some of their hands. >> how far back do you think prejudice goes? >> sense is the beginning of time. >> never hadin' issue. never had an argument. never had a problem. slowly as these guys would talk to each other they realize that the person you are inside has nothing to do with the color of your sen and because you are accused of a crime doesn't mean that you did it. the gang dropouts with the homosexuals and child molesters and rapests and can put their differences aside while they sat and read the bible. >> while deputy veil supports the service others on staff remain kaw you showers.
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>> i have been here before and seen a lot of people come to the church service and they all enjoyed it. but problem with that is we are mixing everybody together and stuff can go sideways at any minute. >> the service began when the deputy notice big mo reading the bible in his cell. >> i would go by the cell and i could see him praying. he would spend a lot of time with h his bible. he would notice people that needed help and would seek them out. and he would just talk to people. inwe started the church and visited people to come to church. >> it didn't happen overnight. is started with four guys around a table and turned into ten guys around a a table and ten turned into 20 and 20 turned into 50 and suddenly the whole pot is asking if they can come out and study the bible with big mo. >> and this is how it came to be. god said go to the gangbangers. who don't like me. but today we have a break in
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the barrier. we put the guns down. we threw prejudice out. we he put the gangs down. and we need to embrace one another. >> when the missionaries came on with the tonga, my granddad helped him and they dave him the name of love to work because he worked with the missionaries. i just want to be me. do the best of my ability. to be some positive influence like in the midst of my trouble. >> his troubles are significant. he is charged with molesting two girls under the age of 10. he has entered a not guilty plea sunday a awaiting trial. >> what is your statement about the charge, guilty, not guilty, innocent? >> not guilty. animals don't molest their
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children and neither do i. i may look like an idiot but i'm not the that crazy. >> he was denied bail and has been at santa rita for two and a half years while his case works its way through the courts. >> they consider me a danger to society. >> he is on a serious charge. he appears to be a genuine nice guy. but you that could all be an act. >> who knows. we don't know. we never know. personally, myself i act as if everybody in here is dangerous at all times. >> coming up. >> rose is actively trying to kill jimbo. >> the church service reconciles two you cousins. but its future takes an uncertain turn. and -- >> i found out then in the windows and i heard beyonce playing in the car and it was playing around the world so i got in the car and we drove
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twice a week, this is a late night ritual at the santa rita jail that makes life just a little easier for many of the the 3,000 inmatessen cars rated here. >> this is the food that they get every week they can purchase with their own money. anything they need. >> what is it called? >> commisary. >> they purchase commissariry with money friends or family deposit into jail managed debit accounts. >> other than visits this is their big thing for the week. on friday i believe it is they fill out the order forms. whatever they want. today we pack it out in the morning and we bring it in set up in separate sections. they come out one at a time after we call their names and they sign the form saying they received the come sherry.
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>> a popular guy? >> the most popular guy here. >> when you grab the bag, check this. >> ramirez. ia you ford. >> i'll look it. >> the jail provides minimal kits to inmates like john mcfarland who have no money available to them. >> if they don't have money. they got stamp, envelopes. tooth brush. a razor. tooth paste. cope. pencil. a little package. >> other inmates have plenty to get through the week. >> cereal for the morning. noodles. cappuccino cookies. >> my mom and dad support me. they put money on my books and i am able to get everything i
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glad danielle benafield is no stranger to shopping with other people's money. she is in jail for stealing wallets from other shoppers. >> on a weekly basis you can spend the smack 125. i shopped 115 last night and got all my stuff. i am trying to lose weight but i'm not going to cheat myself. >> inmate benafield loves drama. >> she recently had drama of the wrong kind. >> she was in a fight in her cell and it was between her and another inmate who is toolly not assigned to her cell. >> benafield says she was trying to facilitate a roman take encounter for her cell mate. >> they are not roommates so we switched at pod time so they could be together and come out at breakfast and then we would switch back after breakfast. >> she says the woman who temporarily occupied her cell had some row romantic notions
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of her own. >> i'm not gay. she was rubbing on my leg and i just wasn't feeling it. i was like you know stop. so she threw one of my personal books in the toe let. i was pisseded off at that point and i kicked her real hard hand she started hitting me. i believe i got the best of her because she was really short and i'm really tall and i dominated her. >> first of all, if i want to be that way it would be somebody my height and i was interested in. this lady is 4'11", 5-foot. i'm 5'8". no. >> the squirmish landed her in a segregation cell for 23 hours per day. >> it is only what i make of it. >> leila argueta, a transgender jen mate says he also knows
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something about unwanted attention. >> i don't want none of these guys. i don't want no facial play. i don't want none of them. i have seen other homeosexuals in here and use the colored pencils and do the makeup and their lips. that is too much. where are you going? they are already expecting for us gay boys or girls to come up in here and be hungry because there is all these men and we come up here and being so flam buoyant and stuff and they are going to take advantage of that. he don't want that. >> i just like the attention. >> i like to control people. >> argueta's cell mate says attention is good but he craves something more. >> i want everybody to remember me he in my career because i will be famous. >> where can i go and who can i
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see and then i weak up and i'm like i'm in jail. >> mcfarland has been in and out o of santa rita several times. he does have prior convictions for grand theft of personal property and more recently for being in possession of a stolen vehicle. >> i found a van and the windows bust out and i heard beyonce playing in the car. as i drove up there was some checks in the car so i tried to, you know, do like try to cash the checks and then i got arrested in the parking lot of the check cashing place. >> he was eventually released on probation but is back in jail for a violation. >> i sold two lettermen jackets and 12 hats and underwear from urban outfitters. i was popping the beepers off of them. and the police old up and i'm trying to look fresh and just
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swag out, right. i got caught with my shirt off half sagging pants damn near on the floor. >> the violation sent mcfarrakhanland back to jail for another six months. as his tatoos indicate, getting into trouble might be hereditary. >> when about my grandma died i turned away from god like all of the good stuff. like the bad people always have the most fun. >> we are up here and that is all we could do. >> coming up, an admitted gang member says his injuries won't put him into retirement. >> behind us is our solar panel system that was installed in 2001 when we started the push to be one of the greenest county facilities in the country. and 900 million dollars are changing hands online. that's why hp built a new kind of server. one that's 80% smaller. uses 89% less energy.
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homes in the resort towns of hailey and ketchum. security forces surrounding a cairo mosque today. the egyptian government is now considering wanning mors i's group the muslim brotherhood. back to "lockup." oakland, california is a city of contrasts. it is kittently ranked in the top ten american cities for both its outstanding environmental practices but you also for crime. at the santa rita jail, those two worlds come together for an environmentally friendly corrections facility. >> we are on top of housing unit 33 right now and behind us is our solar panel system. it was installed in 2001.
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when we started our push to be one of the grievest county facilities in the country. >> so the ones here on the roof don't move or do anything but you take the sun in to help us create energy. the ones behind us there on the hillside those go ahead and rotate with the sun as it passes over are to be more efficient. we went and installed more on the services building and those actually heat up the water for the entire facility. >> in all, santa rita has 9,000 roof top solar panels and another 100 installed on the -- 1100 installed on the h hillside behind the jail. the jail also in talled five wind turbines and a hydrogen fuel cell power plant that serves as a pollution free source of electricity and heat. >> we wanted to be one of the leaders in the area. do something good for the earth. >> the jail's protective custody wing, an unusual church service might be doing some good for inmates who otherwise would be enemies. they are former gang members,
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gay men and accused sex offenders. >> they all sit together and it is very powerful. >> trust me, this is not happening in other houses. but it is happening here. and so you ought to be grateful so god that he allowed you to be part of what is happening here. >> they put aside race and what their crimes are and class fixes are and the thing thingst you just don't see in this institution. >> jimmy is silva is a gang dropout who in the past followed the gang code which required them to attack molesters. >> before when i was on the line and a we would do things to those guys without even thinking about it. >> he says the fell leship has helped build a relationship with another protective custody inmate who is also an old enemy his cousin fabian ruiz. >> they are blood cousins and
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fabian was actively trying to kill jimbo. >> i was looking for him to hurt him and when i saw him in here i was going to beat him up and he didn't want to fight. >> it has brought a lot of things back to me. friends. family. who wanted to kill me. it was probably just the right time for us to see each other and talk about in. >> and coming to this church it made me step back and like try to focus on where am i going wrong with my life. you know, he is my cousin. i love him so i mean really whatever went on on the streets, it ain't that serious any more. >> because of this they were able be to put all that aside. two guys that just got saved that might have been dead in the street. >> but the church service that deputy vales helped foster could be coming to an end. >> before we start as always we will give it to our ceo,
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mr. vales. >> deputy vales is soon leaving the jail for another job within the sheriff's department and this is the last service he will be summer vicing. unless another deputy volunteers to step in the weekly gatherings will cease. >> i'm taking all of you with me just like every night when i left. what i'm leaving here is the tools that you have been given to make your lives better. >> some people would say some of these guys are monsters or animals and who cares what they have to say. i do. >> with everything bad that ever happened in your life always remember you can always learn from it but you it doesn't have to consume you. just move forward. that is my challenge to you. >> amen. >> deputy vales says he helped start the group not out of a reledgous calling but because it is important to offer a positive experience to inmates most of whom will inevitably
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return to the community. >> wow your heads, yes. >> my mother raised moo tow be catholic and in spite of her best efforts i resisted. i don't really have a religion per se. my church is the beach and when i hear waves crashing on the ocean that is god talking as far as i'm concerned. >> i listen to what a they say. i envy theirpathy and their conviction to what is going on. i wish i had something like that. right now i think they need it more than i do. >> let's hold hands together. about the your hands together. >> it is beyond his pro phoenixal call but i think his time and his purpose is done and he has to move on. >> of all of the inmates he might miss deputy vales the most. >> they may have called you names. say a montori territory or animal. >> he is awaiting trial and especially heinous charges. two counts of molesting girls
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under the age of 10. but you deputy vales still allowed him to form the group. >> is is like he saw me, he would go out of his way to do things for people and i guess it is just part of him. >> i want to say thank you to i guess your superior service. i got to thank you. thank you for making this possible. >> i try and treat these guys the way they treat me. they come in here with a clean slate. they didn't do anything to me here. they may have done something horrible on the street, if they did the courts will punish them for it. that is their job. my job is to make sure that they are taken care of while they are here. care, custody and control. >> you did good. >> thank you for everything. >> you guys earned it. >> i hope that they can continue doing this every week. it really gives these guys something to look forward to. these guys need this. >> while the church service brings together two sets of inmates normally kept apart there are parts of the inmate population that will likely never integrate.
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the most dominant gang at santa rita is the northerners. they are for the most part hispanic inmates from northern california. >> they are lot the jail. a prop meant gang. you could have one in minimum. general population. >> there are tribe balances deserenos. southern, california. they are vastly outnumber. >> when at the come in here to the facility because we are up in northern california this is all considered northeno territory. we have to keep them separate from general population and other gang members for the most part. >> it is hard to be a serengo in northern california. >> miguel depends on heart because he can't rely on much else. >> anybody could beat me up, you know. it has happened before.
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>> i got dropped one time by some nortenos and they flipped my their over and i fell over. >> nieves has served prior jail sentences for crimes including residential burglary. lary of a vehicle and illegal possession of a firearm. now, nine months forpossession of ammunition by a felon. he lost the use of his legs 8 years earlleier while engaged in gang activity on the street. >> i was banging on the street and i got hit with a car. i got dragged for a block and a half. >> did you see the car coming? >> no, i didn't. i was too busy fighting. >> nieves passed out after the accident and woke up in a hospital. >> i didn't feel nothing until i woke up with morphine. i was like whoa. that is when it hit me. that is when i knew what happened. tubes and everything in my throat, you know what i mean.
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>> when went to the hospital and all this, you know what i mean. >> javier also a sereno is nieves cell mate. his presence during the interview required by the gang. their policy is to have a monitor whenever one of them speaks to the media. >> what are you listening for as far as what he can and can't say? >> the basic stuff. just stuff he can't say, you know. >> like a lifestyle, you know. >> prison politics. jail politics. stays with us. it doesn't go out no where. >> though gang life has led to more serious implications in nieves life such as his mobility he doesn't regret it. >> i don't regret it. i don't regret it. the only thing i miss is i could defend myself against anybody.
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dedicating themselves to gangs regardless of the costs. >> or, buy finding a friend like leila is argueta did with his cell michiga cell mate mcf. now, to the have had a falling out. >> he made a statement that we don't have to speak, we are just two inmates in the cell. >> so you are not tacking to each other. >> no. >> and it is kind of, you know, tormenting. it is mentally torturous. >> argueta would not say what caused the rift but mcfarland says it had to do with the free of charge indigent comissary bag. >> he told her you are still a man just like i am and she said
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do something about it bitch so i picked up her bed and moved her towards the door and he punched her and she punched me and she fell and she was on the floor and kicking moo he like this and kicking around trying to get away from me and i'm trying to hit her and then the place came. >> argueta is ready to put their differences behind him. his release from santa rita is days away. >> i want to be a waitress. almost like prostitution. if i want to refuse was to somebody i refuse service to somebody. >> for the time being, danielle benafield need not worry about getting along with others. >> would you like it today, mrs. benafield? >> yes. >> get dressed. >> oh, my god! >> she is in segregation for
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fighting with another female inmate who she says was making advances towards her. this isn't her first time if trouble. >> benafield is the center of attention. very loud. manipulates other inmates and when she is in her cell or out of her cell everything is on her attention wise. >> benafield says she can't help being the center of attention and says she has a stash of letters from inmate admirers. >> she wrote me and she is like what is really going on with you, my lady. i just got out this hard ass bunk after taking a nice hot shower while thinking of you smiling. no, i didn't [ bleep ], ha, ha, ha. but just the thought of you made me day dream.
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she and i have a pretty good rapport but she likes to have good rapports with all of the deputies in the house. this is part of her manipulation. >> some here have been skeptical of her claim that her recent fight was to tee fend against unwanted advances and not a lover's quarrel. steams seg gentleman gaition can lead to the the truth. >> have you been p in any interaction with her? >> what keep? >> reiting. >> screaming interaxes? >> the, yes. all of that she said. writing. interactions. screaming interaction. fighting interactions.
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whatever. >> since the fight -- >> what do you mean? >> have you had interaction with her sen that's all you. >> well, i am in jail anyway. >> is she a special friend to you? >> oh, my god. a special -- oh, my god. i like how you threw that in there. at that particular night i really didn't want to switch. i'm being honest. i did not want to switch. but i took one for the team. that's all i am going to say. >> with your special friend. >> with my special friend. deputy flores. you know i think i became weak at one point. because she was like bragging abut her skills. so i wanted to test them. i feel like a sudden weight has been lifted off my shoulders. >> coming up --
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>> take care of yourself. >> thank you. i hope i won't come back. >> i hope you don't come back too. >> change is in the air for miguel nieves, john mcfarland and the protective custody church service.st ted man. instead, man raised a sail. and made "farther" his battle cry. the new ram 1500 -- motor trend's 2013 truck of the year -- the most fuel-efficient half-ton truck on the road -- achieving best-in-class 25 highway miles per gallon. guts. glory. ram.
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there are daily occurrences that can be counted on at the santa rita jail. for instance, the 1,100 solar panels installed in the adjacent hillside will slowly turn to keep track of the sun. one other thing you can count on is change. every day, new inmates arrive and others leave. and today miguel nieves will return to the streets. >> it feels good just to have just this fresh breath of air.
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instead of just stuffiness inside the housing units. >> take care of yourself. >> thank you. i hope i won't come back. >> i hope you won't come back, too. >> nieves once lived for a short time in georgia. he says now he'd like to return there. >> a lot of trees. fresh air. it's just different from california. california is fast, fast, fast, fast, fast. and georgia is calm, slow. day by day. >> change has arrived for john mcfarland as well. it's been two weeks since his former friend and cell mate leila arguetta has been released. ♪ he is now housed with a friend from the streets, cardia fitzpatrick. and so far it's been nothing but good times. ♪ >> how we knew each other. we went to dance school. and now that we're here we became best friends. and we see eye to eye.
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we might have our differences but we still come together as one. and i enjoy every minute of it. >> every minute. >> every single minute. >> right. >> i live for it all. you my bestie. >> you mine too. >> for real. >> fitzpatrick even serves as a sounding board for mcfarland's budding music career. ♪ ♪ on the front cut like the dollar bill set ♪ >> yep. that's my little song. yep. excited. >> one-hit wonder. >> a one-hit wonder is only a one-hit wonder. i came to conquer. this is just to get me seen. a one-hit wonder is something that comes out and never comes out again, bitch. >> i understand that. >> well, say what you meant to say, bitch. >> it's going to be wonderful.
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>> no, bitch. nobody said you can take it into existence and you are not going to do that. that is a hex. for real. >> my apologies. >> all right, thank you. >> mcfarland will soon have a chance to find an audience in the real world. he has just one month left on his sentence. but few changes at santa rita will have much impact on the majority of other men in the jail's protective custody unit as the one involving deputy vails. ♪ amazing grace how sweet the sound ♪ >> several months earlier deputy vales helped start an ongoing church service between protective custody inmates, who are usually kept separate from each other for safety reasons. he recently left the jail for another position in the sheriff's department. the services could only continue if another deputy volunteered to take them over and risk bringing enemies together. but that hasn't happened.
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>> deputy vales left. we haven't had no more church in here. >> it's kind of sad, though. i think the authorities, they're going to think about the safety of their job. and everybody in general. >> they get so many different minds in one place. wanting to do something wrong. people are here, they are here for protection. >> they're separate for a reason. so i'd rather just keep the them separate. if we have church service it is usually with a and b pod together or it's with c, d, e, and f together over there on that side where i'm watching them. >> deputy vales knew others on staff did not think the church service was a good idea. some felt it was naive or unsafe. as vales explained just prior to his departure, he was always aware of the risk as well as the potential benefit. >> i've been doing this a long
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time. i'm not a fool. i know that some of these guys did it. it's not my job to punish them for what they've done. it is my job to try and contain their bad behavior as best i can while in this facility. if the guys did something horrible on the street, i am very sorry it happened. but there's nothing i can do about it. but as long as they're here, if i can provide them with something that will allow them to feel better about themselves so that maybe they don't reoffend, maybe they can make amends for what they did, i know it sounds very naive. but if i can just get one guy to never come back here again who used to come back all the time, i think it's worth it. >> amen. >> amen! [ applause ]
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due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. a 15-year-old louisville boy is murdered in his home, and a young man is taken into custody. >> he wasn't the one that was supposed to be killed. his mama was the one they was going for. >> the accused murderer's case collides with that of one of the jail's most infamous inmates. >> they call him hot boy. that's not somebody you need to be testifying against. >> j.r. jones. hot boy.
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