president if he did not. what is the strategy of this administration? i believe he should go first and foremost to the american public. war ships already in place, but any potential strike would come with massive and far-reaches ramifications. syrian leader assad today saying his forces will defend its country in the event of attack and the leaders of iran and russia are joining forward to condemn any military intervention inside syria's borders. kristin welk is at the white house, our richard engel is in turkey, and we start with our kristin welker we're looking at the question of "time." as you said i said off the top, the uk is urging the parliament to support where the prime minister is on this, really an

ally to the u.s. he's fiercely lobbying his parliament. so what do we know about this briefing and when we might see exactly the kind of intelligence thatted u.s. says it has? >> reporter: thomas, we know this briefing will take place, we believe this evening at about 6:00 p.m., but you are right to point out the fact that the momentum seems to have slowed here in terms of those limited air strikes that we were hearing the obama administration could launch. as you say, the uk wants to way for the u.n. inspectors on the ground to finish their investigation before the parliament there voice. this is problematic for the obama administration because, of course, britain is america's biggest ally, so it's hard toss the u.s. would take an action

without britain. also there's mounting pressure from members of congress. house speak john boehner sending a her to the president saying what do you want to accomplish with military action? so the momentum seems to have slowed, with the discussion behind the scene focusing on what would the legal justification be. >> we want to move on to richard engel. he's in ankara turkey. so what is the next move if the u.s. is to strike? so what is the next move if this does go forward? >> well, it really depends on if it goes forward and what exactly happens. the red cross today said it doesn't support an escalation that will only make a horrible humanitarian situation even worse. turkey absolutely wants military

action to be taken against bashar al assad. he's making states like where is the world's humanity? how can they war crimes go unpunished? but his voice is not one we're hearing in unanimity. egypt has set it doesn't support, the arab league says it's not for military action. the u.n. wants to continue its work. u.n. inspectors have one more day to carry out their work. they're expected to lead leave the country on saturday, but they are not tasked to -- only if they were used. >> richard, thanks so much. we have to move on to ali aruzzi. we understand that iran's new president has been tweeting about this, and they've been using the hashtag prudence, the new president also -- that any military action could

destabilize the entire region, so where do they fall into line if it is attached to bashar al assad? >> reporter: let's not forget, thomas, iran is syria's closest, and president rue hanni said that early judgment can be very statements. he also said that ted be a great mistake for america to attack syria, bring great cost to the. the most fiery rhetoric has come from the chief of the revolutionary guard, a very powerful force here in iran, saying if america attacked syria, it would turn into a second vietnam for them, that it would spell the end of israel if

there was an attack on syria, and he says attacking syria america thinks they will stabilize israel, they're gravely mistaken. back to you, thomas. >> ali arouzi thank you so much. we are seen long lines for gas masks in jerusalem. so explain how israel is on edge right now because of the tensions with the u.s. and the uk trying to figure out exactly who is responsible for the chemical attack in syria? >> reporter: i think the biggest concern right now, thomas is how severe any military action against syria will be. if it's really destructive. and if assad feels backed into a

corner like he's run out of options, and that he wants to retaliate against israel which of course is america's greatest ally in the middle east, that will have consequences for the israeli people, and it's important to remember in this case, the israeli government has said that if assad attacks, it will respond forcefully. it is not going to weather the storm in the way it has during previous western military interventions. we're talking about an israeli air force which is on heighted alert, and an air force capable of running hundreds and hundreds of missions over syria in one day. so this is a nightmare scenario, but one pathway which we get from punishment action very quickly to a regional conflict. thomas? we want to thank all of our reports helping us covers the story.

kritsen welker, richard engel, and ali arouzi in iran, and geraint in israel. gentlemen, it's good to have you here. as i'm sure you were listening, a lot of new information certainly coming from the uk. we have the prime minister david cameron acknowledging the well of public opinion has been poisenned because of our situation and when we went to our international partners because of iraq. and the fact that people consider us to -- i want to play more for exactly what the prime minister had to say. take a listen. >> this is not like iraq. what we are seeing in syria is fundamentally different. we are not invading a country. we are not searching for chemical or biological weapons. one thing is indisputable, the well up public opinion was well

and truly poisoned by the iraq episode. we need to ends the public's skepticism. >> explain the goal here, and canned president really answer that question? you know, and turn around the fact that the well of public opinion might have been poisoned against iraq, because we did cry wolf. we did enter into a war based on false pretenses. >> i think barry mccaffery and i are used to dealing with what we used to call the vietnam syndrome and now dealing with what can be called the iraq syndrome. the skepticism overseas about our intentions, and the reluctance to get involved here in the united states, so clearly the president has considerable work to do both to build a case at home for action and to build a case abroad. he's not going to get the legality that you would like to have because of security council and russia and china's opposition is not going to allow

the u.n. to play a significant role. what he's got to do is build a case that we do have to defend the international norms hand make a case that at least provides legitimacy for what happens next. i think the president needs to take the time. unfortunately for the white house its rhetoric about response has gotten ahead of building the case. >> let's previous this by saying you were a division commander, and you said a military strike will not top chemical attacks. does the u.s. have any good military options here, especially when it was this time last year that the president said if syria was proven to have used chemical weapons against its own people, it was a red lines that was crossed and that something would need to happen. does that mean regime change or nothing? >> well, you know, i have a lot of sympathy for the president. he's backed into a corner business hi own rhetoric, partly by the outrageous murder of

hundreds of people by chemical weapons. i have a great of confidence in secretary chuck hagel, secretary of defense, secretary john kerry. these are world-class, experienced people. however, i think what we're on the verge of doing and hopefully they're rethinking it, is taking infectual military measures without understanding what's the political purpose of what you're trying to achieve. if they said to use the military, they need to take decisive action. in my judgment that's 60 days of turning the u.s. air force and navy loose on the assad regime. so there's a lot of unclear muddled thinking on the part of the white house about this operation. >> so b.j., you heard some of the rhetoric may have backed him into the corner and david ignatius reporting that he needs

to demonstrate there are consequences for crossing a red line, otherwise the ko herein of the global system begins to dissolve. then ironically former defense chief donald rumsfeld, one of the chief iraq war architects saying the president hasn't shown why attacking is in our best interests. >> some people say we look feckless. >> i do think the incredible is online, but also the -- the administration has promised a response. picking up on what mccaffery said here, it's a dynamic at home that's add odds with the strategic imperative abroad. the president is saying it's limited, not even connected to the largest policy of helping

the opposition and seeing assad leave power. so when you take military action, it's got to be more than a bow shot, as the president said yesterday. so if we're going to open the door to military action, let's have it have an effect, maybe not a decisive effect in militarily defeating assad, but creating conditions on the ground to enhance the prospect of the political solution that the administration wants. part of this process has to be putting china and russia on the defensive. what they're doing right now is they're the ones who were interpreting international norms, and they're okay with the use of chemical weapons, because they fear broader -- we have to say, no, when a leader not only kills 100,000 of his own people, but then gases his own people, that is beyond the pale, we have to respond, and either will

respond politically or militarily to deter further use of chemical weapons, but the international community has to do something. thank you both for joining me. i appreciate it. we want to find out ourself for the public sentiment. i said an opportunity to speak to some folks, show them the pictures of the aftermath of the alleged chemical attack and ask them their opinion. take a listen. >> we tried to get support before the u.n., and i don't know if we'll be able to now. we may just have to do what we have to do. >> human rights trumps everything. it doesn't matter the political situation. certain human rights have to be observed at all times. >> i would say more investigation needs to be done. >> of course he needs to go. that's not even a question. anyone that could do this to their people needs to go. >> i definitely think other people should be involved.

my son -- grandson just joined the marines. that go off, and their very patriotic and then they're -- >> my god, i mean, i see this little boy and just think of my daughter. i mean, their military and physical should be the last resort. i'm sorry, but talk is never over. you see the mixed reaction as we wait for confirmation of u.n. results, and we should have that maybe by the beginning of next week. thousands of fast-footworkers are staging walkouts. could this be a turning point in a movement that seems to be amping up across the country? plus this -- >> what i said was demeaning to all women, not what i believe in. >> a judge apologizing and under

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[ chanting ] happening right now in boston and more than 50 other cities, the largest ever coordinated strike by fast-food workers. they began walking off the job as early as 6:00 a.m. on the east coast, and protesting outside of businesses like mcdonald's burger king and

macy's demanding a salary of double the minimum wage. katy tur is live at a demonstration, and here first, though, katy, tell us about the images that you're seeing, the stories you are learning about and how effect i have been these protesters are being. >> we're seeing the protests coming to where we're standing, lining up behind me. 200 or so were at a mcdonald's earlier this morning and going to this wendy's we're told thus just the tip of the iceberg, this is happening in 60 cities across the country. workers say they cannot feed their family off minimum wage, they cannot survive off the current wages. not only are they asking for higher wages, but also asking for the right to unionize. well, you would be wrong, the statistics say that's not the

case. showing that three out of five new jobs are minimum-wage jobs. the mall project says 88% of those are over 20 years old, a third of those are over 40 years old. just take a listen to two of the workers we spoke with earlier today. i can't go back to school. >> i either have to choose a metro card or i eat today. i can't even do that not on $8 in new york city. >> reporter: now, fast-feed companies say they can't afford the higher wages. i hope you can hear me, thomas. they're getting loud out here. it's only expected to get bigger. >> katy tur, joining me is paul

asan. so let's start out with the fact that this is all coinciding with the march on washington. we saw the celebration take place with the president yesterday marking 50 years, but the president brought up the fact about jobs in this country, especially minimum wage jobs and the only place to go is up. take a look. >> the test was never whether the door was cracked, it's whether it provides a fair shot for the many, to the brack custodian and the white steelworker, the immigrant dishwasher and the native-american veteran. to win that ballots, to answer that call, this remains our great unfinished business.

>> they're calling for higher minimum wage. how much of an impact do you think today's protesting will have? >> they're spreading across the country in a way we haven't seen in recent u.s. history. these are one of the fastest-growing low-wage industries. these aren't stepping-stone jobs. the bulk of the gain skills and advance with us or move on to something else. mcdonald's says they competitive pay and benefits, and training

for those who wish to take advantage of the opportunities. our history is full of examples for individuals who worked their first jobs and went on to successful careers both within and outside of mcdonald's. this just handed to me from the national restaurant association, paul, saying this industry providing opportunity to over 13 million americans nine out of the ten started as hourly workers. those that do are predominantly working part time and even fast foods starts a little above it, but the medians wage for fast food is less than $9 an hour. that means the bulk of the

workers are making less than $10 an hour. these are positive-wage jobs. there are very few management positions to advance to, the bulk of the workers spend a number of years in these jobs. the idea that you can open a fast-food franchise is unrealistic. most people are surprised to to know -- and i think the reasons these strikes are taking grabbing the attention of american people is this is a representative of a trend. these are the fastest-growing jobs. tens of millions spend their time there, more than one in four private sector workers is in one of these sub-$10 low wage jobs. >> so there's every reason to believe this industry is highly profitable. many industries are seeing record corporate profits, the road map for why this is achievable is what we're seeing

in low wage industries. janitors were makings $8, $9 15 years ago. there's no reason that fast food highly profitable can't do the same. they're industry leaders paying a living wage already. costco, trader joe's, fast-food california's belund india-n-out burgers. >> paul, thanks so much. what happens when a restaurant actually pays their workers more? there's moo cluck moo, it pays $1 an hour. you can watch the entire interview with the managing partner of that operation on our website at make sure you share it with friends. it caught fire on social media. we're back after this. mom, dad told me that cheerios is good for your heart,

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expedia, find yours. the case for ultimately, and i say ultimately because there had have to be another vote in this house, the indicate for ultimately supporting action is not based on a specific piece or pieces of intelligence. the fact the syrian government has and has used chemical weapons is beyond doubt. the difference with 2003 and the situation with iraq go wider. then europe was divided over what should be done. now europe is united in the view we should not let this chemical weapons use stand. >> that was british prime minister david cameron just a short time ago giving remark in parliament. what's going to happen in syria? and does congress get a say? those are today's topics. we have joan walsh, steve bennett is a producer for "the

rachel maddow show," and joann reid will be joying our conversation in a second here. i said to hear and play for everybody president obama in his interview with pbs. >> there is a prospect, a possibility in which chemical weapons that can have devastating effects could be directed at us. we want to make sure that does n not happen. >> is that a valid argument in the proposition for military action again syria? >> i think it's a valid argument, but i'm just not convinced we have all the evidence. just today more uncertainty about whether this was really an action by assad or by his

people. we think it probably is, but it's worth spending the time to figure out if it definitely was. i just don't see the rush here. i have to say, you know, after yesterday's march and all the wonderful conversation about the future of our country, we can't afford a useless military intervention again. we're winding down wars. we shouldn't be escalating them. i just don't want to see the president pushed around because he may have made an untoward red line comment here. there's time here, and i want to know more. now john boehner has sent a letter, signed by 116 congress members, 98 republicans, 18 democrats. steve, break down for us how much of a role should congress have here? i think this is over some hurt feelings.

>> i think ha history matters. in recent memory, with el can think of all kinds of instances i think that historically that's a problem. without congressionally authorization. so, yes, congress is now starting to ask questions -- i think john boehner was asking some fair-minded questions, but at the same time john boehner and other congressional leaders have not yet said they expect congress to play an active role. it shouldn't be the burden of one individual to launch these military strikes or intervenes abroad. right now congress has taken largely a backseat. we saw this morning, played a clip earlier of the british

parliament having a spirited debate. why aren't we having that debate? why are our lawmakers on vacation now? >> the august recess continues. part of the team of presidential advisers briefing congressional leaders this even. joy ann reed has wheels on her heels. you are fast, but you said you were very curies about boehner's letter to the president, because it does ask good questions. is the problem, though, with certain liberals and progressives showing up to the white house as a better neocon and that p.o.s republicans? not with the loss of the blood and treasure we've had with iraq and afghanistan that we have wound those down, as joan points out we're not looking to wind up into another altercation. >> this president has been both more aggressive when you look on the policy of drones, going in

and getting osama bin laden, something the bush administration failed to do. and he's alsoing more cautious. if you look at the way we dealt with libya and egypt, sort of backing off and sort of supporting what we saw as the goals of the arab street without putting boots on the ground, so this president who was famously cautious about iraq is now in an awkward position. the things we were told about saddam hussein are actually true in libya, and we have this caution. >> we are talking about the republicans in their her to the president, a lot of people were questioning where they were yesterday at the march on washington, the celebration. we have dr. martin luther king's speech yesterday, but i want to show -- i'm sorry. we don't have that sound, but what i do have is the information that john boehner and eric cantor were invited to be there, and they decided not to be there. mlk was a registered republican, wasn't he?

>> according to one family member. >> his father was. >> his father was. >> why would republicans take a distant approach to wanting to be at the commemoration, the celebration yesterday? joan. >> because i think they have given up. i find it shocking. even six, seven years ago i would have had reps -- they said they're having scheduling conflicts. i'll get both presidents bush a pass, they're not well. what were they doing that they couldn't have found a way to reschedule it and be there? might they have been booed? maybe by a few people. but that was a lovely crowd. i think people would have respected their presence. the fact they won't even show up any more -- >> how does that mix perception with reality, especially with the rnc saying we are going to do the outreach necessary, and then you don't show up for a

sell bryce like that? >> and rnc, reince priebus had their own special african-american members, former member allen west, current member tim scott. they held a separate commemoration. you think back to the 1960s era, everett dirk sen, republican senator from illinois, co-author of the civil rights act of 1964, met with the marchers, there's a famous picture of him standing with martin luther king jr. and other people on the original march. there used to be a consensus around issues. that consensus is gone. the fact there isn't an elected republican that felt they had something to say either on saturday or yesterday is pretty sad. a head scratcher for sure. thanks so much for joining muss today. i appreciate it. as always, find more from our panel on our website. so eight years since

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city says it is back. the may josh's office saying 80% of the pre-katrina population has returned. business is booming. joining me is new orleans' mayor mitch landrieu. i great to have you here. i know also isaac a year ago also happens to fall on this anniversary as well. let's talk about where we've come almost over the last decade. recently there's one woman who rebuilt her home saying the recovery has been slow. she tells the associated pretty, quote, we're still living in a jungle. for those who haven't been to the lower ninth, is it still the slow it's area to rebound and rebuild? if so, how are you helping to rebuild it? >> thomas, thank you so much. the first thing we do is remember 91836 folks that were taken from us, which we did earlier this morning, and then take a moment to think about how far the city has come.

it's a comeback story. there's no question that the city of new orleans is stronger, faster and better. we've rebuilt the education system, the health care system, economic development. as you noted, tourism. different parts are coming back at different levels. when it gets cold, the poor get colder, and lower ninth will continue to struggle, as it did before katrina. but the overall message from the city of new orleans today is the resilience of the people here and how far we have come. as president obama said yesterday on the steps of lincoln memorial, we can talk about where we've been, but how far we have to go. this city continues with challenges, but the story of new orleans is good for america, and we're thankful for everything americans have done for us. we know that the city is host of the super bowl, sugar bowl, ncaa women's final four,

jazz fest, essence fest, so is business making the comeback because of those tourism dollars? >> i would say tourively is a very important part of the economy, but not the only thing we do. we have a robust oil and gas industry. we are building a medical complex that will be second to none in the gulf coast area of the country. we are filming more films than every other city in america except for new york and los angeles, and diversifying our economy. we have a huge maritime portfolio as well. all those things coming to the foreare helping new orleans create a foundation so that the future looks better than the past did. we took this opportunity that the responsibility of katrina gave us to really work hard on building the foundations and the solid structures that a city needs to do well. it seems to be bearing really wonderful fruit. >> mr. nay yor, the warehouse is announcing two executive actions on gun control, building on 23 other executive actions. i want to talk specifically on

the other side about how this resonates for you in new orleans, but this was vice president joe biden earlier talking about one of them. take a look. >> the proposed rule requires people associated with these kinds of trusts or corporations to go through the same background check that individuals have to do. we'll end this means by which to get these most dangerous weapons to people who are not under the law allowed to own them. >> so mr. mayor, like other urban and major cities, new orleans struggles with the issue of crime. what specifically did the president say that resonated that you can take back and implement for the people of new orleans. >> first of all, the fact that he had the meeting on the day before he was going to commemorate dr. king's address, and simultaneously considering our nation as response, really indicated to us that he's serious about finding every

which way we can to curb urban violence, so that spoke volumes. secondly the mayors around the country are working on the same kind of cat trophic problems, what we have said, is -- is a catastrophic event that's occurring all over the country. it's also about education, also about poverty, about economic development, about personal responsibility, and it is about a culture of violence that has developed in this country that's resulted in far too many deaths. it's an all hands on deck point. we have to say this level of violence on the streets of america is irresponsible. and i think that the country is ready to look at this in a broader way than just guns or just poverty. we really have to think about the culture of violence we have created, some through benign neglect and some there

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welcome back. students in kentucky are revolting over michelle obama's new pish to have kids eat healthier and reduce childhood obesity. at a special school board meeting, one member said students tell her the meals taste like vomit. a celebrity chef and host of road trip, and committed to educating kids with food and nutrition, good to have you here. obviously those are harsh words about the first lady's program and how the food tastes. but let's take a look at some facts. one major argument being made against the school lunch program

is that the kids are hungry after they eat, simply that the meals don't contain enough calories. the national school lunch program requires lunches to be between 750 and 850 calories for high school students, but dietitians say teens need anywhere between 1800 and 3 # 200 calories a day. more if they're athletic. so where do we find the happy balance with what our kids should be eating? >> first of all, i want to say what the first lady is attempting to do is amazing and these kids really need to be monitored a bit when it comes to eating better. the problem we're having is a great idea on paper doesn't always translate to a great idea in reality. what i think is happening is for a child to say it tastes like vomit is not the way to go. i think we have to figure out a way that you can feed the children and give them what they need and also give them something that tastes good

because at the end of the day, it is very important, but i get it, you can't do twice breaded and fried chicken nuggets, but you can absolutely do grilled chicken, you can absolutely do vegetables and things that help. so i think it starts with the teachers and the parents working together to find out what will work for the kids. >> it's big shift when you go from chicken nuggets to healthy food, so i understand where kids are pushing back. but we have the cdc saying 18% of kids 6 to 19 are ranked as obese. but the flip side of that, there is some 10% of american households are kids that are reported as food insecure, that means someone in the home is going hungry. so i know this program is new and there are growing pains that go along with it, but how do we make sure the kids are getting the proper nutritional items that they need to make them healthy? >> it starts with parenting.

it starts with education of food. if you teach a child to change their eating habits -- remember one thing. kids don't drive to the store and buyparents are buying it. and secondly talking to the children about what is important for them to have. and then when you go to a restaurant, you order something based on what you remembered it tastes like. you don't order something based on what it tastes like. and kids have habits. and they remember what something tastes like whether it's a burger or sloppy joe. so now parents have to educate kids and say this is better for you, give me an opportunity to make you understand how it will taste and what it will deliver for you at the end of the day. you'll be healthier, faster, smarter, but also remember one thing. this is not just about food. kids have to stop doing this and they have to get outside and start doing this, they have to start doing this. its eye not just about the food.

it has to be about physical activity. >> i appreciate that and i think you're absolutely right. we have to run. but thank you so much. that will wrap up this show for me. [ male announcer ] this is claira. to prove to you that aleve is the better choice for her, she's agreed to give it up. that's today? [ male announcer ] we'll be with her all day to see how it goes. [ claira ] after the deliveries, i was okay. now the ciabatta is done and the pain is starting again. more pills? seriously? seriously. [ groans ] all these stops to take more pills can be a pain. can i get my aleve back? ♪ for my pain, i want my aleve. [ male announcer ] look for the easy-open red arthritis cap.

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