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boots on the ground. this is not iraq and this is not afghanistan. >> so far president obama's reasoning seems to be resonating. they emerged signalling confidence in the president's strategy. >> this is a barberous act. it's clear that the united nations is unable to take action and nato unable to take action. i'm going to support the president's call for action and my colleagues should support this call for action. we have enemies around the world that need to understand that we are not going to toll raid this type of behavior. >> hundreds of children were killed. this is behavior outside the circle of civilized union behavior and we must respond. >> secretary of state john kerry and chuck hagel are set to testify in front of the senate foreign relations committee,
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consensus is not a given. >> it will be catastrophic if we turn down and reverse a policy announced by the president of the united states to the world. an action that was going to take place is then negated. i think it does horrendous damage to the credibility of the president of the united states. >> it's at least 50-50 whether the house will vote down involvement in the syrian war. i know because the clarity of where all of this goes. >> there a lot of risks here. the downsides are great. >> we cannot make this about the president versus congress or him shuffling off responsibility. we can have all of those debates at another time. this is about the credibility of the united states of america standing up for an anti-proliferation and use of chemical and biological weapons. >> i think members of congress were divided in terms of what does that mean? is this a treen go to war?
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what is the objectives of going to war. what authorization are we giving our president? >> in syria the situation continues to deteriorate. more than two million syrians are registered as ren refugees. nearly half of whom are under the age of 11. close to 5,000 syrians are leaving the country every day. men, women, and children are crossing borders with little more than the clothes on their backs. given the breath of this crisis with over 716,000 refugees in lebanon, 515,000 in jordan and 460,000 in turkey, the un said the humanitarianests are worryingingly under supported. the syrian refugee crisis represents the great tragedy of this century and is a disgraceful humanitarian calamity. the anchor and national and international correspondent, ann
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curry. you are fresh for the region. great to see you as well. nancy pelosi called this outside the circle of civilized human behavior and we must respond. you are at this refugee camp in jordan. can you give us a sense of what it is like? >> it's horrendous and people living in open desert. there is food and security and water and security. a large number of these rev joes. the majority are children. 75% of that one million figure are under the age of 11. you have a lot of kids who are frightened and they dealt with the fact that they lost family members and witnessed war themselves. some of them have been hit by shrapnel and needed medical care because of their own injuries. that boy as you can see has his arm banged up and was hit by shrapnel. he watched two of his best friends get cut down this
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explosions. three girls also outside playing house also cut down. he watched children die and was carried to safety by his brother and has not had psychological care. he is representative of these children who had to dole with what they experienced. we talked about the head of unhr. what we are looking at is the possibility of a lost generation because of what these kids have been going through. >> from what you are reporting, the stories of the massacres of what these children witness and in total refugees and displaced persons inside and outside syria, nearly one third of the population in syria has been displaced. the international response in terms of resources for the refugees and the displaced persons is not adequate boy a lot of counts. >>a i lost of countries have stepped up in the neighboring syria. jordan and lebanon and turkey and other nations have step
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uponed up to do something. we have great organizations. the irc and wfp and save the children. unicef. they have been doing heroic work on the ground, but nevertheless because there is not enough of a response to meet the need, kids are suffering. everyone is suffering and want protection. they don't want to fear whether they are going to eat well. i have to be honest with you. they are saying the conditions inside the camp, i also have seen refugees in turkey. there is a big flood moving into iraq. some of these conditions, they have acknowledged that they have been using the word brutal. in fact there were refugees who were leaving to go back into
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syria because they would rather die facing the possibility of fire than to live under those conditions in the camps. you can get an idea the sense of trauma and the psychological damage and the worry about food and being in this really open field in the environment. the effort has been inadequate. >> we were talking about this before, but what is the sense among the people about this conflict? what is the sense of assad and whether he may be replaced and i have to ask this because we are talking about possible military intervention. what is the feeling about the united states and its role in the conflict and are they confident that help is on the way? >>. >> if there was one word i think best describes their reaction, you asked the question about their feelings about the united states, it would be disappointment. they have huge disappointment because this has been going on for more than two years.
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it's well into the third yore and they have been asking for protection. i am not talking about one side or the other. the assad regime or the rebels. the civilians have been asking for protection. this war had civilian casualties and the attacks that have affected children and women in a way that really would equal the definition of atrocity and with the use of we have been told and it's confirmed, chemical weapons on august 21st. that was the latest we are told of chemical weapons attacks. there have been other attacks linked to chemical weapons. why has no one come in to protect civilians? that's the question. what is the president going to do and congress going to do that will help protect civilians? i know there is a lot of discussion about politics and the impact on iran and all those things. what can you do to protect us?
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those who have least ability to protect themselves. >> the red line appears to have drawn and crossed without a real concern as far as the humanitarian toll. this is about deterrence and not making life better for millions of people who have been displaced or are in refugee camps. they think please help us and that is not mitigated by the talk of military strikes. i want to ask you as someone we met a few moons ago. you have been to some of the worst places in the world. darfur, rwanda and kosovo. how does this compare to the others? >> i think the head is right in saying this is the greatest humanitarian disaster of our time. it is comparable to what happened in rwanda, that was the last time you saw something this
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large, this fast. in rwanda, the world did not respond in time. in kosovo it did a lot of people -- it did not respond in time, but it did eventually respond. they say we are so much worse than kosovo. as i said, these humanitarian organizations are struggling against every hurdle to sort of take care of people. people are not starving in these camps largely. they are not getting enough medical care and they are worried about the future and traumatized. i do think that it's fair to call this one the greatest humanitarian disaster of all time. >> were you surprised at the level of the how many an toll it's taken and the disaster that is the support or not the disaster, but the lack of more robust support? were you surprised at the scale of things? >> we were there a year ago and
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there were maybe 50,000 people in the camp. now there more than 130,000 people. again, i think that tells a story. how fast, how quickly people are spilling across the borders. some 5,000 people are spilling across the borders. in part i am not surprised that the response has not answered because it has been -- on the other hand and maybe this is a problem that we have been focusing on other things and that's the dilemma. the truth is people in syria, the civilians in syria who have now for 2 1/2 years been pleading for outside protection of some sort. some suggested a no-fly zone and some suggested a buffer zone. in any case what they want is to live. they have been pleading with the outside world for 2 1/2 years to make sure their children don't die and they can survive.
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i think the really sad part is largely that this is now the moment 2 1/2 years when the world america is facing this question. we will see what the answer will be. i can tell you that people were much more hopeful last year when i was there. they are not so hopeful today. >> we talked about the political calculus on this and the foreign policy. it is so important to remember what is actually happening. the human suffering and the carnage and the death toll and i would say the hope that people continue to believe that things can get better. important work. great reporter. thanks so much and great to see you as well. >> after the break, the politics of military action. how does president obama convince congress to authorize strikes in syria. what is the end game? we will talk to "the washington post" as they join us next. this is for you.
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>> i think that there is a push to have a mark up. not hastily and not that is not powerful, but to have a mark up very soon so that members have the opportunity to see it before they come back. depending on progress, you can well see something this evening or early in the morning. >> that was senator bob corker indicating that military action in syria can come as soon as this evening. not everyone is on board. surprising no one the "wall street journal" was more critical of the actions writing this will go down as one of the
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stranger gambles in commander in chief history. obama's mishandling in syria is so extreme we can't help but wonder if he wants to lose this vote. then he would have an excuse for cutting defense and withdrawing america more from world leadership. we will give him the benefit of the doubt because they are more obvious explanations for his behavior. cohost from "squawk box" and daily beast author peter beinert and ann gear an. to see that this is a quickly moving situation would be an under statement. a lot of back and forth over whether this was a good or bad thing for the president to do. i have to ask you, we have speaker boehner and leader captor coming up saying going to support action in syria. it seems like this may be going well for the president and he may get the authorization he
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seeks. >> yes. you are starting to see a shift yesterday when mccain and graham, leading hawks on the republican side in the senate were called to the white house and came out with conditional support for the president and you have two more important republican notes of support today from boehner and kantor. he has harder work with the democrats. he worked on 130 of them on the phone not with the president, but his national security team. if there is going to be a problem politically this week for him, it's more likely to be there. secretary kerry and secretary hagel will be before the committee this afternoon. that's the panel that bob corker is on. they have been moving very fast. this is a marked up piece of legislation that members can look at before they get back to town and have a vote next week.
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>> it will be interesting. within each party there a lot of dynamics that will be interesting as they play out. in terms of democrats, it's interesting if anybody had more measured language coming out of the meeting with the president, it was former majority leader nancy pelosi said to be whipping vote are fist an authorization. there still democrats who are reluctant to be involved in anything in the mideast because the spector of iraq loomed so large over syria whether accurately or inaccurately. having that vote with your name attached to it is a daunting prospect to democrats at this point. >> the mammoth is this vote will be unpopular in the grass roots of both parties. there is an elite mass divide in both parties. the further you get away from washington, the more people think you know what, we have
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expanded so much blood and treasure, i want people to focus on things at home. that will be compelling for a lot of house democrats. does president obama have enough influence and authority over them to make them take a vote they think in their vote they don't want to take. >> within the republican party you know how the split between neocons and libertarians. >> the issue will be in what congress passes, is there a goal line or are we basically telling the child -- are we hitting the child or giving the child a time out and when i said the child, syria. is there smgs more? are we having an impact in changing the out come and the behavior? right now i think it's a time out. i don't know how effective that will be and my great worry and i imagine everybody's worry that we go in and whatever we thought we had, that's back on the line
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because assad does something else. >> the question of what everyone is agreeing to do is a big one. there is concern for people like mccain and gram that we need more robust action and democrats who are not as keen on military intervention want very, very limited action. they wanted to curtail whatever the white house is proposing in terms of military intervention in syria. that is where the biggest fight will play out. the specifics over this authorization. >> yes. you have people like dprgraham mccain and they are willing to support it and it's part of a larger strategy and they keep referring to a more robust approach to syria. that is exactly what many democrats don't want to hear. that sounds to many democrats like the beginning of a slippery slope towards wider u.s. action.
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we are looking to see what that means. what is more robust syria policy look like? does it mean more weapons for the rebels? possibly. more promises that if this kind of thing happens again that there will be a more forceful response? the president has not spelled that out yet. >> in terms of the president's political calculus, i was not in washington proper, but i was around the area and i thought i get this. this is a domestic calculation, but on some level if it escalates and our presence in syria becomes bigger, to not have had congress on this decision would have been catastrophic. how do you read this? >>. >> i agree with you. president obama understands better than a lot of elites in washington.
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the legacy looms large. they have lost trust in the foreign policy elite acting autonomously on their behalf because of the massive disasters that have taken place. president obama recognizes if we are going to take interventions, we will have to reengage the american people and regain a lot of trust that was lost. things cannot go on as if iraq and afghanistan didn't happen. that's the deep wisdom of what he is doing. that's a real risk. >> in the broader lens of the obama presidency. here's a man fending off a lot of surveillance and overreach of power. a state that cannot be unwound. hoerz a decisive moment when he is seizing authority and setting a precedent for presidents after him. >> in a way if this is about credibility and you talk about international credibility here, he added to credibility by going this route. you can argue this was a clever approach given the box at the
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time, the box he was in. >> a box of his own making. a clever way to do it. the question i have, we don't know for another year or two whether he gained credibility or lost if in fact congress goes and decides to have a missile strike. that's a bigger issue. the other issue on credibility which i have been thinking about, who is credibility trying to protect? are we trying to protect the country and the president and are we trying to protect it with people on the ground? is it we don't have a lot of moral authority there. are we trying to affect it with the elites? i'm worried that whatever credibility we are talking about, we do it for our own ego necessarily for others. i am anxious about the whole thing. >> in terms of that credibility, for those of us who watched what happened in washington over the course of the obama presidency, to see boehner and kantor and pelosi and the president and
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seu susan rice to have consensus is shocking. to me what i would have thought and will find out if this is accurate, they must have been thinking about what andrew brought up. the credibility of the us of america and what the implications might be if congress said no to the president looking if are wartime authorization. it would be unprecedent and that sense of american history and i guess we can call it patriotism, overrode partisan divide for however long it lasts. >> again very much to be determined. there is a certain sense more strongly than yesterday in washington. this is going the way that national security votes traditionally did before the partisan era of the last several years. that's that you have to remember it may be the other guy's president now, but it might be your president the next time around and you don't want to do
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as someone who very much had thrown in with president assad. >> the mother of stood by her husband despite rumors at one point she fled the country with their three children. last year leak e-mails obtained appeared to show her spending lavishly even as the city and her family's home was under attack. >> as the regime was destroying the third largest city and her hometown, the accounts have her bias pieces of art online. >> as the world grapples with images of chemical attacks, the syrian presidency's recently launched instagram feed is hoping to show a different side of the first lady. smiling preparing food for refugees and preparing boxes with her husband and surrounded by seemingly adoring syrians. pictures that inspired comparisons to a modern day marie antoinette.
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the 2011 vote profile that was criticized and removed from the magazine's site, the author who was not available to speak told the daily beast she regrets it. >> the message that she gave me every day for a week was how much she cared about the children of syria and how she wanted to empower them. i had serious misgivings. >> whatever the assad's true story may be, two years into the brutal conflict, it's far from the fairy tale they tried d desperately to portray. >> after the break, syria takes top billing and the brinkmanship takes the back seed. how they have a debt ceiling fight and the cage full of rapid wolverin wolverines. next on now. clay.
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third of the gop's conference urged the speaker to insist on defunding obama care as part of any government funding bill. as for boehner's promise of a face off over the debt ceiling, the white house said that is out of the question. >> let me reiterate what our position is. it's unequivocal. we will not negotiate with republicans in congress over congress's responsibility to pay the bills that congress has racked up. period. >> with battle lines drawn, who blinks first and how will action on syria affect the funding fight. according to reuters it makes a fiscal deal more likely as they provide a convenient excuse for republicans to agree to short-term extensions that provide two or three months worth of government funding. others are not so sure. cnbc tweets could sober war debate ease fiscal fights? is the ex-produce adviser said no.
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could they vote with potus on syria and they feel they oppose him even more. policy analyst "the washington post" ezra kline. ezra, it's obviously a fluid situation, but you are in washington. i wonder what you make of the two reads and how they embolden or cal the gop in looming talks with the white house. >> we don't know. we in washington do not know. my guess is that syria is not going to be a huge contributor one way or the other unless we enter and escalate in an unexpected way. here's why. you mentioned a resolution. one way the government funding fight that is going to happen in september can end is they don't really end it and come to an agreement. they say we will pass a law saying we will have the statement amount of money in october as november. that pushes it off a month. what that would do is create a bigger fiscal storm coming in.
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not just how to fund the debt ceiling, but the sequestration. for john boehner, there is a certain incentive to do that. the big question everybody's got is if the white house as you said press secretary said, if the white house won't negotiate on the debt ceiling and they need to negotiate, what do you do. one idea is to have a negotiation that the white house can say is other sequestration and funding the government and republicans can say is over the debt ceiling. my hunch is they push all of this back and become one huge mess in october. that should be great for traffic to my blog, but not great for the country. >> we want your traffic to be high and the country to be on course, but kicking the can down the road seems to be the strategy in washington. >> it is. i would suggest that ezra is right, but it is worse than
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that. we will kick the can into 2014. there will be a two or three month. >> do you mean november 2014? >> no, no. like january, february. to me what you are going to see is like the wwe wrestling. you are going to see everyone wrestling and the republicans look like they are fighting, but it's rigged. they are going to get a deal and you layer syria on top of that which will make it -- i would argue easier. it will make the fight look harder. you add on top of that this tapering and whether bernanke, when he leaves and whether it's yellin, all of that is going to make it that much tougher in some respects because it will have everybody so freaked out, but because of that we will get that can get kicked longer. >> i wonder if we talk about syria as a political point that is scored by either side, but it brings up the issue of our armed
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services and we talk about sequestration and the republican party between the defense hawks and tea partiers. the hill seems to think that that may actually inform this debate. the white house has been banking on defense hawks within the gop and breaking ranks with tea party conservatives and includes higher taxes and reverses cuts. the white house's hope is cuts to the pend gon will grow so painful, some is will accept more tax revenue as part of a deal to end the cuts. that happened against the backdrop of military intervention could make the case. >> i think unfortunately for the white house's point of view, the momentum in the republican party is with the tea party folks who are much more concerned about downsizing government than maintaining america's presence. it's towards the rand pauls of the world and away from the john
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mccains of the world. john mccain and lindsay graham, but not a lot of republicans feel the way they do. this will make it harder to get the deal they want. >> ezra, i have been referring to the caucus of rabid col ver easter he said in an attempt to get republicans to avert a shut down bypassing a short-term bill, he promises a whale of a fight later. he treats his caucus as if it were a cage full of rabid wolverines. if you thought it was a bad idea, the debt ceiling is a worse idea. he must entertain every hair brained idea no matter how hair brained. that's the only way to maintain control of his caucus. >> he keeps promising something worse later. he keeps trading a shut down for
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a debt sealing is like trading f food for septic shock. i think the rabid wolverines are there. i don't think they are able to rake any of this. i think the teams have a common criticism among republicans. they live to get to tomorrow. they don't have a plan and they don't know how to make that the people will stick to. things like a plan b. that's the real uncertainty here. at the end, leadership could cut the deal and the members go behind them. the leadership does not know what deal it can cut. they are trying to get through the next crisis. the way they do that is by making the one after that. that may not happen next time. >> you don't think that given all the things that are happening this fall, when i said freak out, we are going to have
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a freak out between syria and what's happening with tapers and the markets are going to do. you don't think there is a sense in washington even if it's not preordained today. the republicans decide they are going to cave on a deal because there is nothing else to do? >> i don't know what the deal is, but no, i don't think so. there is not going to be a big fight. the debt ceiling is where things go bad. i will not rationally say the debt ceiling. i am not sure they would sign and push into january. i don't think the continued resolution and the debt ceiling is dangerous. i don't think they know what to do about it. >> something told me wall street will get involved. >> they will. >> they will. >> they will be there. >> "the washington post" ezra
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>> i think freedom means freedom for everyone. many of you know one of my daughters is gay. i think people ought to be free to enter any kind of krun yon they wish. any arrangement they wish. >> that was dick cheney voicing support for gay marriage four years ago. last year his daughter mary cheney married her partner with whom she has two children. sibling rivalry is playing out on the national stage. mary's sister liz cheney perry who is challenging senator mike enzy in wyoming released a statement saying i am not pro
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gay marriage. i believe the issue of marriage must be decided by the states and the people in the states. mary cheney fired off a facebook post reading for the record, i love my sister, but she is dead long on the issue of marriage. freedom means freedom for everyone. while they are squaring off. she happens to be at odds with herself years ago when liz cheney seemed a lot more pro gay marriage. >> my family has been clear that freedom means freedom for everybody and this is an issue that states have to decide for themselves. i would not like to see a constitutional amendment as was suggested in the last administration banning it. >> oh, the power over republican primary. it's uncanny ability to contort candidates into id logical pretzels. go to e-trade and find out how much our advice and guidance costs. spoiler alert: it's low. it's guidance on your terms, not ours. e-trade. less for us. more for you.
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brazil. the latest revelation from edward snowden leaked to the guardians shows that the u.s. spy agency poured through the personal e-mails, phone calls and text messages of mexican president and brazilian president. peter, whether or not you think it's a good or bad thing i think is real. now that there is talk of the president, the brazilian president coming to the u.s. and next month and president and vice president boyden are supposed to go to mexico. questions are being raised. reporting at the nsa video conferencing of the eu nations at the un headquarters, what do you make of this? >> i think this is a big deal. brazil is a rising power that has become more and more independent. closer to china. this is the kind of thing the united states may always have done, but we don't have as much power relative to other countries. the rules are changing.
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the blow back from this thing is greater because others don't have to accept the united states doing business as usual. >> we know preemptively that you will have this attitude, but president obama is going to sweden today. he was originally supposed to be going to have a li lateral meeting from russia. it could have been handy given what we are trying to do in syria. regardless of what the actual information is important, you may think it's not, may think it's not, the repercussions have been serious. >> i don't want to be dismissive, but this is one of the me something i don't know stories. air has oxygen in it. hello. you were bugging me and i believe that. >> you do that always. >> i believe that all the time. this is not -- i'm not saying this is a great situation. this is an awful situation. this made it more difficult for us to do a lot of things. i am not dismissing that. what should we be doing?
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should we not do it? has it helped or hurt us? what are the other countries doing? are they doing the same thing to us as well? i am suggesting that there is a larger story to this. >> the interesting question is international politics are like domestic politics. you have to expect that everything is transparent. this is the world we are entering into. america is going to have to adapt to that. seems that this is an example of how we are not keeping up with the times. we can't continue to operate this way. we will be able to function in a more transparent way. >> even if they were not, this is not okay. okay. speaking of things that are not okay. one seen as an otherwise sulleyed banking industry. jpmorgan chase fines itself in trouble. they opened up a bribery investigation as to whether they hired the children of top chinese officials in an effort to help win business contracts
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in china. andrew? how big of a deal is this? >> it's a big deal in that it's a snowball effect. every other day there is a new headline about jpmorgan. it is the darling and now it's no longer. it's a piece of a larger puzzle. is that more important? i can suggest to you what happened with the mortgage market in 2008 in criminal investigations, that's probably more important. this is an interesting issue. >> the "new york times" editorial board sums it up. while the out come remains unclear, they raise the obvious question of whether banks have been too big to fail, but too big to manage. >> and the question of whether banks can do business in asia. this is about their practices in asia and hiring people trying to cozy up to government officials and whether we can abide by the norms of business in china while abiding by the laws of the united states. it's a difficult balance.
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>>we do it here too in the u.s. >> i will try to hire your twins when they are old enough. >> talented they are. >> my wife will be sending a thank you card. >> i will be sending the application over. thank you to andrew and peter. that is all for now. see you back here tomorrow at noon eastern when i am joined by jacob, josh and sallinger. you can find us at facebook.com. "andrea mitchell reports" is next. before he could easily transfer funds between the two in real time... before he could even think about planning for his daughters' future... mike opened a merrill edge investment account and linked it to his bank of america bank account to help free up plenty of time for the here and now. that's the wonder of streamlined connections. that's merrill edge and bank of america.
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