thanks for disrupt be your sunday afternoon. i'm karen finney. the president has what may be the biggest week of his second term. he has a range of issues, including sir why. >> obama's high stake syria gamble. >> he said, i can't confirm or deny that we have chemical weapons. >> nobody is rebutting the intelligence. nobody doubts the intelligence. just because assad is a murderous tyrant, doesn't mean his opponent are any bet are. >> it is not boots on the ground. it is not an extended air

campaign. >> iraq poisoned the well. >> this is about team america. this is about getting together as one and doing the right thing. >> i think the military attack is the right thing. >> there is not a suggest that would be people aligned with him, some kind of retaliation. >> if we go in on the side of the rebels and going in on the side of al qaeda. >> votes are not there. >> this would be the biggest congressal effort in the white house since the battle over healthcare. >> it is important for him to react. >> you are watching what happened with washington. >> as congress returns tomorrow, the president is pulling out all the stops to make his case for limited airstrikes in syria. from low poll numbers to angry constituents at town halls around the country, members of congress are not getting much encouragement from outside the

administration but they are sure about to be lobbied hard. this weekend we saw release of new graphic video of the august 21st chemical attacks and dennis mcdone why appearing on all of the talk show circuit this morning. syrian president al-assad also denied to charlie rose that he was behind the chemical weapons attacks. he said he is also closely watching what is happening in washington. tomorrow the president will sit done for all six nightly news broadcasts and tuesday, he will make his case directly to the american people with an address from the white house. meanwhile, current secretary of state, john kerry, is making the pitch overseas p weekend, though he failed to get support of the european union. and former secretary of state hillary clinton will be at the white house tomorrow for previously scheduled event. she expected to address the debate either then or during speech that's previously scheduled tuesday in philadelphia. all of this comes of course on the heels of the first classified briefing to the full house tomorrow and the senate's

expected vote on its resolution back in the president's plan sometime this week. for the latest,er with going to the white house, joining me now, is white house news correspondent, nbc news correspondent, peter alexander. thanks so much, peter. >> karen, good to visit with you. >> so tell us the latest. we heard reports from our own andrea mitchell that john kerry is cutting his trip short, not picking up as much support abroad as we hoped. and we know starting tomorrow we have full-court press going from the white house. >> that's exactly the case. can you say that it begins today with denis mcdonough making rounds on sunday morning shows a couple of hours from now the vice president joe biden will invite over to his residence several senators, republican senators, that this white house believes are crucial for them to get a win on the senate side. then again tomorrow, as you've noted, not just the president doing those interviews in advance of his speech to take place tuesday night. his national security adviser, susan rice, will be giving

remarks as well. so this has been a very deliberate concentrated effort over the course of the next days. building it that crescendo tuesday night where the president will speak. obviously this remains an up hill battle. this is frustration among washington, certainly among administration officials, through some that believe they are playing politices with the decision they believe is one of national security. taking for example, senator ted cruz of texas today who said that he believes the military attack would be a mistake. ways looking up remarks that he made in june of this year, where he said, right now we need to develop a clear practical plan it go in, location weapons, secure or destroy them after congress has asked for authorization, his opinion quickly changed. >> sure did. peter alexander, thank you so much. >> for more, i'm joined by democratic congressman elliott from new york and angleman from florida. thank you for beg here. >> thank you.

>> i want it start with you congressman angle. what do you say to those who suggest one round of airstrikes may not solve the problem and send the message that is meant to be sent to assad. >> there are lot of bad choices in syria. there are no good choices in syria. in my opinion the worse choice is to do nothing. some people, like my colleagues, months ago, chiding the president for not doing anything. for being weak, not showing mer can's strength, now the same ones will vote against him because he didn't act soon enough or they think this is not going to work. i think the president laid out a bold plan that will send a message to assad, that gassing your own people, committing war crimes is simply not acceptable. i think it is in the best strategic interest of america to do so as well. have you iran lurking around as the lead supporter of assad.

assad is proxy. i think the president is taking bold action and taking the right action. it is difficult, difficult choices. there are no easy choices. but i think to do nothing now would be the absolute worst. >> you know, on this point about iran, congressman radel, denis mcdonough talked about this question as to whether or not this is a proxy essentially for iran. i want to play that sound for you and get your thoughts on the other side. >> sure. >> i think it is very difficult for us to know exactly what is happening in teheran. but what we do know is, to communicate with them, we have to be very clear, very forthright. this is an opportunity to be both with the iranians to make sure that they understand that they do not have greater freedom of action. they do not have greater operating space to pursue a nuclear weapon, which would destabilize that entire region, threaten our friends and llies,d

ultimately threaten us. >> this is about a series of important things. >> now congressman, to that point, you have heard what congressman angle said, does that in any way shape or form, sort of sway your opinion when you put iran in the calculation here? >> no. if iran present a direct threat to us, then we can and will strike. when or if syria provides some sort of direct threat to the united states, then we can and will strike. but i'm not indescending messages. this is a profound and complex time in the middle east right now. generational changes are happening. i don't want to get involved in a syrian war and bomb for a little bit then step back out when i would rather expend our military when he have a serious threat to the united states. >> congressman angle, you know, we also heard this morning that assad, as you mentioned, to charlie rose, we saw today, is watching closely what is happening in washington. do you think that will have any sway on members of congress who

are at this point leaning no? >> i think assad is the thug and a liar and murder he and he gasses his own people. and i don't believe a word he says. i have seen the intelligence, classified intelligence and to me, i have no doubt whatsoever that he is the one who used gas on his own people. and those pictures of those children choking to death and foaming at the mouth is something that will live with me for the rest of my life. so i think the united states, we stand for something. and we cannot just stand idly by and allow him to commit war crimes and gas his own people. and of course this is related to what happens with iran. the president of the united states has said to iran, we will not allow to you have a nuclear weapon. iran is watching very closely to see if the united states has the resolve to follow through what it said it would do in syria. if we don't, then we're sending a very clear message that we are more weary, that we have no

gumgs to follow through be a went that syria will have a become and no one will be able to stop them. >> congressman, to that point, let's say we don't have an airstrike and we see assad take north action against his own people. would that then sway you? >> well, let's take a look at what's happened when we look at actions against his own people of the past two years. yes, these chemical weapons are terrible. i saw the pictures. i have a 2-year-old at home and i get the emotional argument to this. but 100,000 people have died over the past couple of years in this. i have looked at pictures from darfur, people starving in north korea, dissidents locked up and tortured in cuba. one thing i say to all of this, again in ba shir al-assad says watch closely, if you are watching closely, if you become a direct threat, we will send a cruise missile into your home, wipe out the regime, then step

in with full international support. but right now this is syrian civil war. as terrible as it is, i do not want to expend our resources or put american lives on the line to get involved in this syrian civil war. this syrian conflict. >> congressman angle, just last question to you here, one of the things we've seen in the arguments, we saw this last week, is some members of congress trying to suggest that this is about benghazi. that president is somehow using this action in syria to detract from benghazi. we know the anniversary is this week and what happened in benghazi, personally i find that a ridiculous argument. but i want your reaction. >> is when deridiculous to. what happened in benghazi is a tragedy, no doubt about it. but what happened in syria has no direct effect with libya. there is nothing that makes it similar. ben ben guz /* benghazi was

horrific. if we say we will equate one death with another death, my god, there are all kinds of things that have been signed as the norm international norm since world war i and using weapons of mass destruction, gas, poison gas on your own people, is something that the whole world has signed that this is something we will not couldn'tence in. i don't think it is fair it say, that one death by gas and one death by this, it is all the same. no, it's not. only america can stop it and we have to do now. >> obviously it is horrific, the number of deaths that we've seen throughout this war. but this idea that it is a red line when we are talking about chemical weapons. and when we are recognizing that other nations like iran may be watching what actions we do or do not take. what do you say to that? >> first of all, such a red line

that british are our strongest potential e ten ally in the wor potential ally in the world, i go back to darfur, there are people raped, murdered, tortured, by the hundreds of thousands if not millions. this is not the norm and should not be tolerated. but let me be clear. i'm not an isolationist. i am an dove as the pundits would use. i want to see what america's interest in this versus picking and choosing where we will or will not be of the press of the world. this comes a a time when we are arguing over food stamps for kids in the united states. i want to make sure we have a clear goal at the end of this, what the threat to the is and if there is one. you best believe i will be with the president in terms of striking. right now at this point i just don't see it. >> i hope you are also with the president on preserving food stamps. you're right, we have a number of other key issues.

thank you congressmen. coming up, we go inside the west wing. our allies and the nation, i will talk with long time advisers, that's coming up next. >> meanwhile, our next guest, senator ted cruz, republican from texas, part of the strike against syria would serve as al qaeda's air force. you are seeing opposition from both the left and right. your response? >> i'm outraged for somebody to suggest that our people would be serving as allies to al qaeda. of getting something "new."

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consequences for the assad regime, with the attendant and associated complications for national security, if we don't, then you have to vote yes on this resolution. >> white house chief of staff on the president's pitch to congress from lobbying members of congress to engage outside groups at home and allies abroad. how does the white house put together such a strategy so that message and politics come together seamlessly. for a look behind the scenes, joining me now is press secretary buill burton. bill, i'm so excited to have you on the show for the first time. >> i'm glad msnbc finally came to its senses and gave you a show. >> well, thank you. you and i have both been in the position of strieing to put together a strategy like this before. obviously we have seen a pretty aggressive effort. it's been intensifying. i with say over this weekend and into next week. but we also learn today the house, it looks like, may not vote until the week of the 16th.

you know, i would have some concerns in how you keep the momentum going. once you get all of these things in motion, that's the kind of -- that's like a momentum killer, isn't it? >> momentum is important. but so is working a strategy for all these different groups that the white house has to reach out to. this isn't like healthcare where you have a group of democrats that you needed to grow in order to pass it. it is much different than that. it is a coalition that you need to build of moderate and progressive democrats and conservative dem krocrats along with conservative republicans and stitching together the right number of votes in the house will be very difficult and all those different groups require their own strategy. >> you know, one of the things that strikes me is in the message, we started out, kerry was very much into talking about the intelligence and i think most people agree with the validity of the intelligence. now it seems like the feedback is more, is an airstrike the way to deal with this problem. do you think -- it strikes me that as they are going through, you know, making all these calls

to congress, talking to the outside groups, all of that feedback has to in some way form on what president says tuesday night to recognize it may not be a matter of convincing people that the intelligence is sound but that this is the right move. >> you know, donald rumsfeld just put an interview on one of the competing networks moments ago and watching him talk about how sound the intelligence was around the iraq war is really worth dwigoing and finding that area because it is astounding how some people on the republican side still feel like that was a war fought with the right kind of intelligence for the right reasons. for the president, you know, i think that he has to do a big job of convincing people that the intelligence is right and also that airstrikes is the way to go. i don't think there's a big appetite for boots on the ground in syria, except maybe john mccain and those who thought we should have been in there more aggressively earlier. so convincing folks that strikes

will do what we need to do and punish assad for his terrible attack on his own children, is what's happening. >> since you mentioned the former administration, i have a sound from bush's brain, mr. karl rove. let's listen and talk about it on the other side. >> all right. >> we now have the syrians without god knows how many days or weeks with the united states does take action to disperse all of these units. to, you know, protect themselves as much as possible. build human shields. this is an unmitigated disaster. this is amateur hour at the white house. >> i'm not one to take the advice of karl rove. that's for sure. or donald rumsfeld. but that being said, it does feel like the ghost of iraq is looming over this. in that i think people feel, again, even though i may agree that the intelligence in this case is sound, that we are a war

weary country. there is a lot of anxiety about things that need to get done here at home and we are hearing stories about, you know, things that have to get sort of pushed down the list on the agenda of the president's second term agenda. how does the president address those concerns? that we are talking about a limited strikes. that's his words, not mine. but that this is not going to derail all of these other priorities that we know and we have heard over and over again in town halls, people are so concerned about. >> first, to respond directly to what karl rove said about getting congressional approval and impact on strikes, we can have an impact on military targets in syria. even if we wait for weeks or a month. that something important to the president. he asked the joint chiefs that specific question, if waiting would harm our ability to do what we needed to do and they

said, no. that we could indeed do that. frankly, by waiting for strikes their military is dispersed and they can't be as effective as they were if they try to hide those things. for people who are concerned about this being another iraq, i don't think that iraq is the reason not to support strikes in syria. i think it is the reason to support strikes in syria. president obama was elected buzz he called iraq a dumb war. and he -- the notion that we went into a war on false premises, without a clear strategy for victory, is something that is on his mind that he knows all too well. that is why he ended the war in iraq and why he has that context for what we are doing in syria. knowing full well that america will not stand for a conflict like iraq all over again. >> i want to challenge you on that quickly. i think the point where people's anxiety on that comes is what happens the day after the airstrikes. how can we be assure that we are talking about these horrible

chemical weapons. that they won't fall into someone else's hands. without having to secure them with our own boots on the ground. seems to me that that's the place where people say, look, we know things can go south. and then we might have to put boots on the ground. even if it isn't the president's intention. >> you put your finger on it. there is a terrible uncertainty of war. when you engage militarily, things will happen that you can anticipate. you deal with humans in ill logical ways in syria. so the fact of the matter is, we have to act. chemical weapons were used. if we want to protect americans and protect the world and just let the prohibition of chemical weapons fly in the face of reason and what we ought to do then we are making ourselves less safe. because this sort of prohibition that has been around for a hundred years, is in place because of great international progressives who push for it to be there. and it was important a hundred

years ago. it is important right now. if we don't enforce it, it will mean nothing. that has consequences for iran and consequenquences in syria. so there this is place where we have it act. >> all right, bill burton. i suspect we will see you on the air waves this week helping to press the case. thanks so much. >> i will do my part. thanks, karen. >> will the storms surrounding the syria rain on the crusade of obama care. the issues congress faces when they finally get to work, that's coming up. >> in more serious news, obama is asking congress to support a military strike if syria. if they approve it, it'll be the first time congress officially declared war since obama care. yeah. i'm angela, and i didn't think i could quit smoking

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with the new york city mayoral election right around the corner, things are getting tense for candidate around the case. but the one person making the most noise is shockingly not even running. current new york city michael bloomberg is causing quite a stir this week with outrageous allegation teas bill de blasio is using a racial campaign. when asked to elaborate, bloom bevel said this. well, no, no, he is making an appeal using his family to gain support. i think it is obvious if you watch what he has been doing. i don't think he himself is racist. it's comparable to me pointing out i'm jewish in attracting the jewish vote. now that you bring that up,

isn't that what you did, mr. mayor. during your 2005 reelection campaign, bloomberg sent out an eight-page mini magazine adorned with language like mike the mench an orthodox jewish families, a priority for blam bevel. bloomberg also accused de blasio of pitting the rich against the pour. this accusation comes from the man who told new york magazine that we need more billion airs livinging in the city. it seems like as his reign of new york city comes to a close, mr. bloomberg decided to go out into all out defense mode. joining me now, msnbc contributor and jonathan capehart and dr. james peterson. thanks so you both. >> thanks, karen. >> jonathan, i'm going to start with you. it strikes me that we've got a

full screen here of a recent quinnipiac poll. it feels like bloomberg is really trying to defend his legacy, and bill de blasio moved up pretty quickly in the polls. particularly around the issue of stop and frisk. his son that has relevant experience in his life and for his father, a relevant experience in his life. why are we seeing such thin skin from mr. bloomberg. >> we have to keep in mind that any politician will defend his or her record when they are about to walk out the door and someone is about to come in and replace them. the mayor is ledge ngendary and prone for saying what he thinks as indelicately as humanly possible. i know all these things, not just because i followed him his

last two terms but i worked on his first campaign for mayor in 2001. during campaign, mike bloomberg featured his, now late mother, in campaign literature and she campaigned for him at a senior center in 2001. >> of course. that's what people do. >> that's what politicians do. de blasio isn't doing anything out of the ordinary. maybe the only thing out of the ordinary is his wife is american and his children are bi-racial and his son has an afro i wish i could grow. >> that's why i'm so steamed. and a bi-racial person myself, and he worked on hillary clinton's campaign and i work owed on that campaign with him and we had conversations. and he asked me about growing uch bi-racial because he was

thinking about issues for his children. been because he planned on running for mayor but because he loves his children. by the way, this is modern america. it is offensive that he would sulgt that showing his family is some kind of edge. >> it is not just modern america. this plan set getting browner and browner and bill de blasio's family is one example of that. it is interesting, the mayor walked this back immediately, even in the interview, he had to walk it back. but people make this mistake all the time, karen. which is the moment that a person of color talks about race, whether about their family or any constructive way, negative or positive, people say, that's racist. so what the mayor should have done is conceded his mistake and apologized for even casting it in that light. as you and jonathan pointed out, this is politics 101. you put your family out front to humanize the candidate, engage different constituencies. everybody does this.

de blasio, maybe it is more effective, because new york is a 21st century city. there are mixed ethnicities and cultures in new york. so yes, there is political strategy that pays off for him but to call it racist is absurd. >> jonathan, to me, the crux is this issue about stop and frisk. the mayor has taken -- >> you want to talk about racist. >> really. the miy mayor has taken hits about stop and frisk. talk about inarticulate. and an ad featuring dante, that showed that de blasio has a personal experience and understanding of this issue in a way that some of the other candidate probably don't. and that is a legitimate experience. but it feels like what we are talking about here, is, you know, concerns that this mayor has really, under his mayorship, you know, between the police and people of color, has really grown. >> yes.

and you've got me because, as you and i have talked about, mayor bloomberg, police commissioner ray kelly, and the issue of stop and frisk is a little problematic for me because i know a lot of stuff and a lot of things about these two men and what their motivations are and where their hearts are. i don't think that what they are saying in public actually -- accurately reflects who they are as people. but leaving this aside, and assuming it is democrat, there will be changes to the way stop and frisk is administered in the city. no one -- i mean, you can remember that the judge a he ruling didn't say that stop and frisk was unconstitutional. what she said is the way it was being applied was unconstitutional. so the next mayor is going to have to figure out, not only how to either continue the practice

but continue it in a way that's constitutional, or do away with it completely. then find a police commissioner who can come up with practices that don't make people in the city feel unsafe. >> the bottom line, i guess to me, guys, is that is a valid issue to voters and residents of new york city as are the economic issues. and to suggest that somehow using your family, when your son happens to be half black and have a fantastic afro, and as we saw his daughter, she is fantastic. she didn't need anybody to tell her who to do, i think is quite a low blow coming from mayor bloomberg. i want to thank james peterson and jonathan capehart. >> thanks, karen. >> we want to know what you think about mayor bloomberg's comments. we'll be right back with all of the other stuff on congress's plate this week. with the spark cash card from capital one...

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so before congress went on recess in early august, capitol hill was consumed with a fight looming over the debt ceiling. a threat to defund obama care and the struggle to pass immigration reform. a few weeks later, these issues have been pushed to the back burner as congress returns to a tough vote on syria, pushed aside but not forgotten. in the next three weeks we face the implementation of the affordable care act, debt ceiling fight, again, additional sequester cuts and expiring farm bill, debate over comprehensive immigration reform and sexual assault. oh, and i'm sure we will hear a thing or two about benghazi. joining me now, editorial page editor for washington examiner. perry bacon, and professor defrancesca desoto.

i want to start with you, mark. it seems syria may overshadow some of these items. but one of the things we heard this week from buck mckion is that his putting forward the suggestion that they hold the syria resolution hostage for certain cuts that the gop wants in the sequester. are we going to really see that kind of horse trading going on? >> i wouldn't be at all surprised to see something like that. i think mckion's point is that there is a growing feeling on the house republican side. that whatever the outcome of syria might be, that now is an nunt their view to limit or repeal, in fact, military side of sequestration and balance that with cuts. bigger cuts. domestic side. >> but wouldn't it be more

straight forward, syria vote seems for cut an dry. if you are someone who agrees with the president, that it is an important thing to do, trying to hold that hostage to get other cuts, i would think that would back fire on republicans. >> it might, who knows. but i have to say, karen, the president promised before he was elected in 2008 that he would unite the country. he's done that. but the problem is he united most of the country against what he want to do is in syria. and that is just -- that totally complicates the political calculations, no pun intended. for everybody. for everybody involved. >> in fairness, john boehner, i'm sure, was not looking forward to having to stave off the idea of impeaching the president and dealing with the defunding of obama care and certainly the suggestion that dealing with sir why ayria and that to the side. >> and in addition to that,

karen, i wouldn't be surprise fed the vote counts continue to be overwhelmingly negative from the president's perspective. if they just decide, we're not going to have a vote in the house. >> you never know. might not be the easiest thing to do. perry, talking about the looming budget battles, one of the things we know we are looking at is continuing resolution and questions about whether or not republicans will try to use the continuing resolution as a way to delay obama care because they see that in october 1, deadline, you know, coming on strong. and you know, you even heard ted cruz say this is the last chance we've got. you were out talking and licening to people trying to sell the president's plan just this weekend. >> yeah. i was in georgia with following around people involved in roll america. roll america is a program that started by former obama administration officials. their goal is to sign up people to vote, sign up people for the health insurance plan.

so i was in georgia watching that. the key thing being this is the republican's last chance to defund or block this law. october 1st people will start signing up. so this is really sort of a last stand. but i think the fact we are talking about syria, we are talking with the debt ceiling, my sense is that the defund obama care movement and also immigration reform are both a little bit pushed to the back burner in a way they wouldn't have been by the syria debate and they are now getting less attention and less oxygen in washington because of the sir why debate. >> to that point, professor, victoria, i want to ask about immigration's form. at the beginning of the summer, this was going to be a summer of activism reform, and it hasn't gotten the national media attention that it deserves. and the idea was come back in september and we are going to, the idea is let's make a vote happen. i think to perry's point, it

certainly feels like just practically by the virtue of the small amount of time that congress will be in washington, i don't think we will get to immigration reform in september. what do you think its prospects are for this year. >> karen, earlier today on telemundo's news show, in focus, senator cruz went on and said, i'm worried. from one of the main proponent of immigration refom and who is involved in the thick of syria and immigration, on the plate to say that, that worries me. but i know if we get into late september, october, the clock was going to start to run out. immigration is one of these controversial issues -- well, all issues are controversial these days. there are race-based passions and economic passions. but when we get closer to an electoral season, we will see people push back. quite frankly, i think we will

see bits and piecees. probably a dream mac version coming out. but i don't think in the midst of a syria issue we will see the reform. >> it is a busy couple of weeks indeed. thanks you. >> thanks, karen. next, the crisis that even congress can't ignore. that's coming up. farmers presents: fifteen seconds of smart.

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united nation says calling it quote the worst crises of the 21st century. the syrian civil war forced of million from their homes with 2 million fleeing to neighboring countries. aleppo and homes have been wanling the war. they have taken on a unprecedented number of refugees.

mostly of children. whose earliest memories will be of adjustment. this has become a regional humanitarian catastrophe. joining me today is united nations commissioner for refugees, alex alanacoff. awant us to start with talking about the refugee camps and conditions in the camps. you have traveled to the region recently. give us a sense of what it was like when you were there. >> first of all, majority of refugees are not in camps. there is a large camp in northern jordan, about 120,000 people. and some camps along the turkish border but 80 to 90% of people are in small villages and communities across jordan, lebanon, turkey, iraq and egypt and in some way he the impact on those community is the most

serious part of the crisis for the refugees. conditions are difficult. these are people who have been forced from their homes, across international border, into an uncertain place where there's not enough water. not enough electricity and not jobs for people and children are not in schools. housing is difficult. >> the impact also, the infrastructure of countries where people are going into different neighborhoods, essentially. you and i spoke earlier and you mentioned it is impacting wages, impacting rent. we have seen report that it is impacting resources. schools. hospitals, what have you. how are you able to get aid to identify where the people are and get aid to them? >> yeah. you've identified the manl major impacts here. we register people when they cross the international border. unhcr has a record of where people are and where they settled. but in lebanon alone, refugees settled in a thousand villages. we can put those on a map but getting them assistance is the

difficult job because to put new schools and new clinics and more electricity and those places requirees a huge effort. >> and also, isn't it part of the problem is that people are in sir why and trapped m neighborhoods. and i've heard getting aid to them in those areas is difficult. >> yes. 4 to 5 million people displaced in syria. one in three families in syria have been forced from their homes. when you're in the war situation, the middle after conflict, it is difficult for humanitarian workers to get assistance where it needs do go. >> i want it give people a sense, we were talking about children, 1 million children, as i mentioned by i worked for new york city, with 1 million children in new york city schools we today get home safely on 9/11. we are talking about in this case, 1 million children displaced with be dispersed, all

over the region essentially. >> yes. we are talking about a lot of generation of syrian children. it is hard it get a focus on what 1 million really means. fe. we have talked about a school bus with 30 children in it. this is 30,000 school busses. here you have children out of their homes and uncertain circumstances. for who knows how long. >> right. >> so what can people do? what is the most helpful thing that people can do to support your efforts? >> one is give money. >> that's okay. >> i can give you our website, unrefugees.org. contributions would help enormously. but general advocacy on behalf of the humanitarian effort. governments to the main organizations, that support the u.n. agencies here. governments being aware is very effective. >> thank you for joining me today. >> thank you. >> as we just mentioned, go to

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