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>> what about you learn today? >> gossip. >> i learned about the new york mayoral primary. >> great job. >> what did you learn. >> it's fun to go to the daily news. >> see you tomorrow. thanks if are watching. >> ask syria's leader speaks out to western media, the obama administration makes a final push to convince america to take action. it will most likely come down to the case they make. it's election eve for new york's mayoral primary. bill deblasio is close to
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avoiding a run off. they love to hate their own fight. we will fill the well-worn shoes. almost 50 years after his assassination, we will look at president kennedy's foreign policy including things that stand out about syria. liberal interventionism. good morning from washington. it's monday, september 9th, 2013. let's get right to the first read of the morning. president obama confronts what may well be the most important 48 hours of his second term. a full-fledged political crisis on his hands and they know it. facing enormous skepticism on capitol hill, the administration is pulling out all stops in a way to win public support for military action against the syrian regime. it's even different and more relevant than what they did in
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2009. that happened over weeks. this has to get done in days. the white house knows more is at stake than the academic debate about power. they lose a congressional vote about syria. the house debate over immigration reform. the stakes couldn't be higher. last night vice president biden hosted the president and six republicans for dinner. they are most likely to be on the president's side. president obama will make his case in interviews with television networks including nbc news. tomorrow the democrats in capitol hill before delivering a prime time address to the nation. he is delivering the speech this weekend during the video address. >> i know that the american people are weary after a decade of war. that's why we are not putting our troops in the middle of somebody else's war.
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but we are the united states of america. we cannot turn a blind eye to images like thes we have seen out of syria. >> that is what you are going to hear. that's what the american public is going to hear. over the weekend the obama administration released graphic videos allegedly from the aftermath of last month's chemical weapons attack. they are not independently authenticated, but have been shown to lawmakers at classified briefings. members of congress will oppose military action in the position of explaining that they are not defending assad as the public watches these pictures. . >> my heart is broken when i see that video. you see women and children dying as a result of chemical weapons. let's be clear on that. the big question for the congress right now is what is the most effective way to move forward? >> then there is assad's own
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comments. could they help the white house gain support? in an interview with c about, s, he denied gassing his own people. >> that reminds me about what was said about going to war. this is our interview. in this case he didn't property evidence. . >> the evidence is powerful and the question for all of us is what are we going to do about it? turn our backs? have a moment of silence and risk of not acting is greater than the risk of acting. >> today the former secretary of state will make her first public remarks on syria. hillary clinton is expected to
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show her support at the wildlife conservation. she will think about syria tomorrow. susan rice will make the case for why it has been in interest to act in a midday speech. they pressed for military action on five sunday morning talk shows and had a hard time avoiding air strikes. air strikes could both be limited and consequential. >> there is no doubt that this military action was the greatest capability and send a clear signal. it's not an extended air campaign and iraq, afghanistan or libya. >> the deputy national adviser for strategic communications. >> i want to go to the point that dennis was making yesterday. it has taken a step further.
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if the u.s. does act militarily against the syrian regime, what does it electric like and how are you so confident that there will not be a response that causes the slippery slope argument that more military intervention will be needed. this is the end of military intervention for the united states and syria and not just the beginning? >> chuck, first of all, this is the objective. it's to deter the use of chemical weapons and the capabilities to use them. it's not an objective to inflict regime change. the first time people called this, the military does not use pinterest. he was not faced with a u.s. air strike. the fact is we believe even with a limited strike, we can inflict consequences on assad and going forward, he can pay a price for using chemical weapons. if we don't, they will have a green light going forward to
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continue. >> i want to play something secretary kerry said in london. he was asked if there was anything assad could do to avoid acting militarily. here's what he said. >> he can turn over every bit of the chemical weapons for the international community in the next week. turn it over. follow it. without delay and allow a full and total accounting for that. he isn't about to do it and it can't be done. >> is that the ultimatum. is that the closest the united states government is going to come to issuing an ultimatum for assad? is there also something formal that you are going to give assad? >> look, the fact of the matter is he had an ultimatum here for many months. we made clear with many the weapons that are unacceptable. you are talking about a dictator who denied using the weapons.
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as the secretary said, it's hard to foresee any scenario. you heard him on the interview today, lying about the fact that he is using these weapons even though the world can see in the videos that have been airing over the weekend. we have no expectations he will do anything different than what he has done had is ignore the will of the international community. we tried negotiations. that has not deterred him from using the weapons. that's why we need military action. >> what make this is action legal? >> first of all, what we are doing is turning to congress and seeking authorization. even as the president as commander in chief can take action, we believe it's important to seek the authorization. the fact of the matter is, we tried to work on this. the russians have veit ode several resolutions and we see that. we will take action to enforce what we assemble international law. the protocol the use of the
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weapons and the chemical weapons prohibits them signed on by the vast majority of the world. >> why not go back to the un? there hasn't been the show vote presenting the evidence. samantha power presenting this evidence. we know the russians will beat us, so why bother? >> chuck, actually what you saw is the british did go to the security council and discuss the resolution. that would hold assad accountable. this was a non-starter with the russians. what we have seen is they are blocking with the u in. let me take on the congress really quick. that was a situation where the bush administration was trying to prove the existence of the weapons of mass destruction. there was no doubt he had chemical weapons and no doubt there was an attack. the question is what are we going to do about it? >> would you accept a rewriting
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of the resolution if it delayed any action or asked you to come back in 60 days after the un finishes all of its investigation? >> we believe we have been open to working with congress on this resolution. there can be no boots on the ground and it will be limited in time and scope. we do need to act and act with a sense of urgency given the fact that this attack on august 21st to send a message to assad you cannot use these weapons. it will be one more piece of evidence and they don't assign culpability. we have samples from blood and hair on the team that confirms it was a gas attack. while an important addition to the record can't tell us anything we don't already know. >> the french would like it, it seems. >> what the french said is they are going to report as soon as possible the discussion of them
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reporting within a matter of days. the fact is it coincides with the timeline in terms of the votes moving forward. we don't feel like there is a need to extend for a matter of months to tell us what everybody in the world knows. chemical weapons were used in syria. >> if you anyhow it couldn't pass congress, it is better for the foreign policy to withdraw the request? >> no. this is an issue where the president feels strongly that members of congress should take a vote. the fact of the matter is when we take the decisions, we are stronger at home and abroad when they cake them together. that's why he went to congress. he went to vote. even if he knows everything, it's going to go down to defeat. >> we feel this will pass. the president will make it tonight to all of the networks and we believe when members of congress take a look at the
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videos and contemplate being looking the other way ask say there no consequences and there is a green light that they will be there to act in the defense of the national security interest of the united states. >> the national security adviser, thanks if are coming up this morning. up next, convincing congress of the president's uphill battle on upon capitol hill. we have our own count of democrats. that comes up next. a look ahead at the politics planner. syria happy today. former secretary of state hillary clinton a surprising addition to the pr effort by the white house. you are watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc.
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>> the opposition to a strike on syria is real particularly where both parties of questioning military intervention. >> once we hit, this is an active war. little wars start big wars. we have to remember that. >> the minute the missile lands, we are in the syrian war. every mission should be clearly defined and of course that strategy is going to be and you need to know what that exit strategy is going to be. >> the violence is taking place. it's unconscionable. what i worry about is more of this. more retaliation. more use of force. >> according to the nbc preliminary web count, 24 house members support intervention and 106 oppose it.
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303 are undecided. some of it is political. the hardest is convincing republicans. the most credible republicans on national security are the people who brought you iraq. how much sway can they have without the members of congress? democrats have profound doubts. the liberal allies are not sold. they are spending five figures on an ad opposing intervention. the leader mitch connell the only leader who has not said which way he is leaning. the primary challenger is trying to use the syria issue against connell. red states democrats who are up for reelection are showcasing the politics. look at arkansas. a democrat opposing intervention. tom cotton supports it. finally watch the congestiressi
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black caucus will make her case. how much does the white house twist arms and tell them they have to get on board with the group with heavily leaning against the entire intervention. democrats are divided and pushing if are more limited action. joining me now, good morning to you. you tried to rewrite it and you rewrite it and the senate producing no matter what, if there two resolutions that pass, they are going to be two very different resolutions. i think that's right. jerry conley and i are with a lot of those who heard by narrowly drawing the resolution. one in the senate resolution will make it clear that the only purpose of military action is to deter assad from future use of chemical weapons and make clear no boots on the ground and no
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extended bombing campaign and we are concerned about getting drawn into a serious civil war and we should not as a country be engulfed in that in a military way. we need to action in response to this out ramguous mass gassing. >> you are meeting with the chief of staff obviously. you were trying to help figure out a way to make this pass. when you talked to a member of congress, was there a common theme? >> the first concern has been with the evidence. after what happened in iraq, all of us had a special obligation. is there a doubt? they have recognized that. >> that's right. i think the un report i have high confidence.
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>> what is it? >> what's the appropriate action? we need to take other measures. the problem is we tried that. we tried to go to the un security council. russia is back and vetoed the efforts. we applied the sanctions and looked at the al termatives. i want to make sure that happens and they are focused on that and avoid that. it is a legitimate concern. this would go beyond punitive action in the larger intervention. >> let me go back to that. this is preiraq and had to do with both in the first gulf war back like he was the national person. if you are going to use american force, you go overwhelming or not at all.
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somehow they are trying to find the little ground. >> how does a middle ground exist with what the doctrine said. you would want to go there. >> prevent him from using chemical weapons. >> that's correct. i believe if you send a strong message to his capability, the use will be degraded and you take other actions. you will deter it and change the calculus. they had a price to pay for the mass gassing of civilians. there is some evidence where they were cautioning against doing this. what we need to do is set the balance. here is deciding whether or not you will use mass poisoning and you decide it's not there.
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>> if this is going to go to this resolution. will we ever see a resolution get defeated? we will take this one step at a time. we will see what happens in the senate. at this point in time, if there is resolution that has any chance of passage, it will be narrow are likely drawn at this point in time. is it better to have it poled? >> i would not want to see defeat in this issue. all the other things to do for the president and the country. . >> i think that again, one step at a time. i think thatty woo will see what happens in the senate. what is the west bay.
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two recall elections have the power of the nra led by the tightened gun control laws in that state. the assumption is probably one survived and one goes down. the largest city begins the process of united states chooing a new mayor. both primaries were the one to watch. bill deblasio remains the front-runner and at least 36%. he is winning among women, blacks, white,jews and catholics. does he avoid a run off. if he does, who will he face? the director of the poll, anybody who has whiplash, bill deblasio was the single digit guy two months ago. he was the last guy to get into
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the run off. the front-runner was christine quinn. now she may not get into the won off. how does he avoid a run off? >> i think right now, chuck. he is within striking distance in the high 30s it. has been an interesting two weeks and over the summer, there was a huge distraction in new york city. the story with anthony wiener and christine quinn with a weak early front-runner. what happened the last couple of weeks, they have the issue here in new york city, determining the issue, another dig issue and they had the effect that really captured them connected to the campaign. >> we knew that it would be would be a dig deal.
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bill thompson and yet here is the white guy in the field who is benefiting the most. a point that michael bloomberg made poorly and may have been the final nail in the coffin for anyone to catch. >> there was no doubt about that. the typography is not like that. among african-americans, ready of anthony wiener among jewish voters. he is getting the opponents and then again, that's why new york is new york. we have big things happened in new york. >> one of the things, bloomberg is more unpopular and how much being associated as the anti-bloomberg candidate.
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>> that's very helpful to him and hurtful to christine quinn. she had the counsel and she the incumbent with bloomberg to try to distance herself. bill deblasio is ahead. even among most voters. >> that's for sure. does he cross the 40% mark? that's what you do. >> he's the front-runner. . >> the mayoral hopeful. the current city with christine quinn will be thomas roberts. coming up next, a deep dive into another mayor.
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a dozen candidates are fighting to replace boston. the 50th anniversary of the president of john f. kennedy. we will begin with what will be about a 90-day look at the kennedy legacy again. this know one echoing with the kennedy connection. you are watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc. [ male announcer ] bob's heart attack didn't come with a warning. today his doctor has him on a bayer aspirin regimen to help reduce the risk of another one. if you've had a heart attack, be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen.
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before kennedy took office to today. one of the readers from nuclear weapons to chemical weapons. the rhetoric hasn't changed much. i want to focus it in john f. kennedy. because the interventionist wing used to be a larger wing than today. it has roads in the conservatism. >> you hear echoes.
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what you error from john kerry today, he is carrying the torch of liberal idealistic intervention. >> this idea of democracy was interesting when bush was pushing his agenda that he called it. there were a lot of kennedy liberals who turned the republicans who were all part of that as well. >> there a lot of progressives who are pushing intervention and this red line is not just that president obama put it there, but progressives put this red line out there for many years. >> i thought it was interesting on friday.
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the question sorry we going to do that again sf. >> it has been interesting that it became more of a democracy. the first was a stability guide first. we need stability to figure out how to deal with assad. obama seemed to be more leaning to be a bush 41 guy. >> the division has been confusing if are sure. when you look at kennedy and obama, you see a lot of similarities. young and charismatic and had an ability to seize a moment with the american public. i think on foreign policy, you sea kennedy as the last liberal democratic president. obama we are not seeing that clarity of conviction that we did with the kennedys. that's the difference. maybe we department see him. kennedy was hammering over the
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decisions. the difference today as we see it. >> maybe that's partly the difference between politics. there was less transparency. if you look at syria versus the bay of pigs which was kennedy's disaster, there was not a public debate about the bay of pigs like there is about syria. this president is operating in a very different environment. >> it's interesting when you think about that with the last liberal hawk. it's whether they took three years to convince his party to intervene. that situation and we are seeing that.
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>> the democratic party has been tied in knots trying to recapture. president obama trying to remind the party of its interventionist roots. that was a lot of democrats and a lot of americans generally want to turn in. the bay of pigs was a different experience. kennedy felt dragged into that by the joint chiefs. the military at the time was more hawkish than kennedy. the young president felt unsedy thinking i have to rely on the military guys. >> he said as much afterwards and cursed himself for what he saw with the 90s today. you saw the reaction with that within kennedy's own administration the way he handled the cuban missile crisis with the joint chief that were hell bent to with days of air strikes with no boots on the
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ground. kennedy fought to do that. >> would there be more democratic opposition to this? >> i don't know the answer to that. >> you know what, i would like to think that there would still be the same opposition regardless of who the president is. >> it might be different though. >> would you agree to that? this is obviously sincere. there principals that you are getting mixed up. >> at the end of the day, you have to give the american people a lot of credit. they want to know that there is a clear objective and strategy. they are not hearing from this administration. we are hearing missed signals. kerry said the strike is going to be small and there is a great import.
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it's confusing. less an issue of democrat versus republican and what the strategy will be and what does success look like? >> to tie this up, there is really -- is there a good in store that the president can rely on? that's coming back to you and you look at this, what positive analogy do we have? it's kosovo and bosnia. >> that's the closest. >> that was successful. >> it was successful and it's i'm not sure rallied the public. i don't think it was. >> rallied at the time. >> right. and the president had to operate in without un support and without full congressional support. >> he did have that. that's the thing. he hasn't done anything yet and why he felt ahead of the congress. stick around. we are going to 2k50e7 dive into the rates to rerace another massachusetts icon.
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for the past two decades, one of only three men held boston's top job. that's about to change. we are taking a deep dive into what may be the next mayor of boston. there a dozen people running including city officials and a state representatives. the nonwhite mayor in the city's history. the field of only female candidates. 11democrats. that is all changing with two weeks to go. candidates who can afford them, the topics range from climate
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change and reviving happy hour that was banned by the state in the 80s. they are trying to get out to press the press as much as possible and stand out among the crowd. there is good reason for that. the race is totally wide open and the top tier are city counsellors and representative mark walsh. the top is in relative terms. none have the majority of the votes with polls showing up to 40% of voters undecided. candidates have limited time to engage voters and gain support. the editor of the editorial page, good to see you. >> good to see you too, chuck. >> let me start with the basic campaign. are these guys running to say that boston is headed in the right direction or the wrong direction that needs to change?
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>> i think that the surprise is benino remains popular and they have a sense this he is moving in the right direction, but people recognize as you said, there have only been three mayors. this is a big change election. the candidates preaching change have an advantage over the few who were talking about that. the boush-gore race in 2000. we want change. bush had to come up with a slogan at the time. is there somebody who is the natural to the political machine, if there is some. >> no, there is not one. there is a candidate who is a city counsellor who reveres and seeks very fondly personally, but also about the legacy. a call to 2.0. he has not gotten a lot of traction and does not have the backing of the machine.
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that's split in a lot of directions. >> boston has a reputation fair or unfair of not being kind to minority candidates in the past. that is legacy issues. the likelihood that boston will elect him. >> the white candidates are pulling ahead and had more money. there is an appetite among white voters here to change the image. one of the reasons is not behind anybody. a lot of people in the circle who think the next mayor should be gone. it changes the image of the city. it connects communities and spirits better. there may be a hidden vote that is looking for the right nonwhite candidate. >> you bostonians are engaged in
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politics and because of the media and high turn out election? what's it going to be? there is a high turn out in certain neighborhoods and rooted traditional neighborhoods. that's another that faces an uphill climb. a lot of people say the mottos of 20 years old. a high percentage of voters under 35. they have a different agenda. you mentioned happy hour and public transportation and the sense that boston is not much f fun and that is holding us back. nobody knows how many of those people will come to the polls. >> 24-hour transportation and happy hour. that appeals to the younger voters. thank you very much. we will be following the next couple of weeks and tomorrow we will be in beantown from the crema cafe in you are in the area, say hi. nick burns, harvard law
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let's bring back the gag el. james bennett, daniellea la shea, dan balls. dan, let me start with you. the president, does he really have enough time? it's funny, the white house swears that this is still -- this is still open, that they have a shot at getting this passed. but our web count, we don't include the leaners because we think leaning is an easy thing
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to do. already the ones on the record 4-1. >> well, they do think this time is somewhat on their side. obviously it's not indefinite. the real push is beginning this woke because he was out of the country last week and didn't get much out of that, as we know. it's this full court press that they're doing. but people have had a lot of time to think about this already and i think it's harder at the point to change minds. >> katie, i've been watching the attempt to find republican foreign policy surrogates that could have influence on republicans and i've had a lot admit they all have iraq on their resume and it doesn't have the sway with this republican party anymore. >> i asked a house republican member this morning about this great lobbying campaign and conversation that the white house says is going on between the hill and he said what briefings, that there have been intelligence -- >> republicans don't feel like they're getting the briefing. >> republicans don't feel like they're part of this conversation. he said i've gotten the
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intelligence briefings, but there has not been a conversation around objectives and strategy and what success looks like. so i think until and unless that conversation starts to happen in earnest with republicans on the hill, the white house is going to continue to be in a tough spot. >> daniellea, what is the message that the president has to do for wayward democrats here? because he's going to have to do this. if he gets it passed in the house, it's going to be more democrats than republicans. >> the onus is going on on the democrats once again to get something done in congress. he has to stress what are the options. doing nothing, what happens then. i think that he's waiting now to get a speech. everybody is back, labor day is over, people are focused on this now. i think tomorrow's speech really matters a lot more than people realize. >> james. >> i would love to hear this administration articulate how they're going to pull off this goldilocks strike that will go just far enough but not too far. whether it's the message the president delivers publicly or
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