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also by the fire department. however, you have been making your political case, however you have been trying to convey your political feelings. you need to know that out there somewhere there are dudes in detroit who are getting their political point across with fire breathing l.e.d. 60 foot dragon that breathe fire and have a d.j. booth on the back. the bar has officially been raised, america, step it up. that does the for us tonight. see you again monday. now you must go to prison. >> been down for shooting my mom. >> an inmate with a haunted past, forges a brotherhood not often seen in prison.
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>> 5:00. work at 6:00. up at 5:00. >> a more sinister brotherhood attempts to spread its influence. >> brothers don't get on camera. i got tired of seeing rats speaks for are ittian brotherhood. >> an inmate gets in over his head. >> i was in my cell, sitting mine cell, got bum rushed by two guys who came in, beat me up and left. >> snitches get killed. snitches get killed. [ bleep ]. >> everything that i have and everything that i ever will have is in this cell. >> and using personal cameras provided by our producers, inmates speak their minds. >> it's all fine -- [ indiscernible ]
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>> i'm a member of the aryan brotherhood. one of the most despised. one of the most feared prison organizations to exist in this country. everybody hates us. but i am here to tell you -- that we're a group of white men who are proud to be white. we make no apologies for being white. and we have a code of honor that we live by.
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>> the aryan brotherhood is the largest gang at indiana state prison. to no longer be a member in good standing is to be in a not good position. >> i got jumped by a gang. it all had to do with gangs. >> i know some body was in a gang. a cover-up for aryan brotherhood. this was aryan brotherhood. i covered this up two years ago. i came in august, 2006, i covered this up september, of the same year. three weeks after being in prison the i had a case with the other aryans they said i told on them. so i get down here and the same guys i supposedly told on are here in this prison >> at the prison we had a lot of
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problems with the aryan o. the big problem instead of fighting between each other, you know whites and blacks, what's been happening recently, we had problems with the aryans going after each other. and, a lot of it is because there is influx within the organization. >> since dropping out of the aryan brotherhood, nick compton says being attacked is only but one problem. >> i have been extorted for mon money. my mom and sister spent over $500 since i have been here. >> yeah, yeah. >> compton due to be released from prison in three months but risks greater danger with the aryan brotherhood by talking to internal affairs about his problems. >> he states he is being extorted. if there is some truth to what he is stating, then what we will protect him. he goes home in february. and our thing is, that everyone goes home. you know, at least in one piece
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anyhow. if he is -- lying to us, then i mean granted we could still protect him. but, he might get other charges on top of whatever, for, for providing false information. now, ralph carasco is waiting on crucial information from compton's mom. receipts for money orders that could support the claim he and his family are being extorted by other inmates. close to $400. [ indiscernible ] >> exactly. that was years ago. all my time is prison is from
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bad choices i made when i was younger. >> they're coming back to haunt you. >> it's look leaches trying to suck the life out of anything i have. try to get me for whatever i could. want to be around us. this will happen. you want to go to school. you want us to leave you alone. it will cost you. how many of are you willing to pay for us to leave you alone. >> you stopped paying, that's why you got hit in the face. >> my sister is supposed to send the guy $65. she didn't send him $65. >> that's because of your money. >> yeah. it's because i'm paying for -- >> extortion. >> yeah. yeah. >> you're going to be on key lock. i'm not going to let you out. >> man, this is, i don't know. >> compton has a decision to make.
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he is more vulnerable to attack. if he requests protective custody from the prison. he must serve the 90 days. >> that's your dilemma. >> whatever i have to do to walk out the door and give my mom a hug. i am going to do it. i will just. >> 90 days versus, daisies? >> yeah. >> as a suspected snitch and aryan brotherhood dropout, compton is the top of inmate that men like steven weaver despise. he made his feelings clear on the personal camera. provided to him by our producers. >> when i was a young kid, if i told on my brother, i got beat for telling. i mean, we were taught in school at a young age, don't be a tattletale. nowadays they have cop shows on tv that teaches kids it is all
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right. dial 1-800 snitch on mom and dad. >> though prison officials have not tied weaver to the assault or extortion of nick compton they have identified him as a high ranking member of the aryan brotherhood. i can't really get into specifics. i will tell you we are strong, white men. we are proud of that. we don't hate anybody else. but if you hat us, we hate you ten times worse. if you hate one of us, we're going to hurt you ten times worse. >> active members rarely speak about their affiliation on camera. but this time, weaver made an exception. >> well, i lost a little bit of sleep over it. doing this interview. brothers don't normally get on camera. but i talked to a lot of my guys
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here, brothers that i respect. i got tired of seeing rats and dropouts speaking for the aryan brotherhood. they don't speak for us. they're not real brothers. or they wouldn't have dropped off. they're marked men. they're dead men walking. as well as they should be. >> weaver's role in the aryan brotherhood is one of the reasons he has been housed in administrative segregation. a lockdown unit located on the eastside of d cell house. >> what is this back here about a hit. he had put out on. >> that was part of the reason, part of the reason why we sent him over there. >> just his activity and his influence over the population being the leader of, within the, the -- stg group. is enough reason to keep him over there. >> just that. he can call shots and make things happen. and stand back. in the shadows. >> the thing i don't understand.
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they put me in add seg, thinking i ordered a hit on somebody. but how does that save that person? if i am in ad seg he is still going to get hit. if i had the authority to do that which i don't. but my past haunts me. and it's bloody. >> coming up -- >> as far as that extortion i think he's lying. >> nick compton's story comes under fire. and later -- [ indiscernible question ] >> yes. can't really write. >> we check in on one of the most memorable inmates to ever appear on "lockup. " but that doesn't mean we're all the same. just like greek yogurts. that's why i prefer activia greek. you got that right jamie, there's nothing like it! exactly, because activia greek is the only greek with exclusive probiotic bifidus regularis, and it helps regulate your digestive system. i love its thick creamy texture! mmm! the greek nonfat yogurt
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the worst thing you can do is tell on somebody. >> one thing you do around here is snitch. and call somebody. and we don't like child molesters. we hate snitches. just plain and simple. if you don't like it, i don't know what to tell you. i'm not sure what is going on. been in here waiting to see what is going to help him. >> nick compton claims his former gang, the aryan brotherhood had him assaulted and is extorting protection money from his mother. >> as far as that extortion, i think, he is lying. >> why? >> because we have not received any information about who the
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money was going to. phone numbers. addresses. none of that. receipts. that's everything, that's things that we need that they said that they had to confirm that he was being extorted. ms. compton, i'm at indiana state prison. i'm calling you reference to your son. and information about your receipts. phone numbers and people's names. give me a call back at the prison. i would greaty appreciate it. thank you very much. despite the influence of the aryan brotherhood. violence at indiana state is rarely race related. >> this isn't. like, i watched the lockup on california. the aryan, part of it, we didn't have to segregate. we don't hatch the problems even when we have had incidences where -- whites have had problems with blacks, blacks have problems with whites. we usually can work it out and
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get it talked out so it doesn't escalate into something where we end up having to take it and turn it into all whites and all blacks. we just don't have that problem. >> there is another form of integration at indiana state that goes beyond race. in the residential treatment unit, selected inmates with a history of good behavior live with and serve as mentors to inmates with mental health issues. >> are you guys working, working a job? >> yeah. >> mentors like harold donnigan, form a different brotherhood with inmates like frank straight. >> some of them just like for-up to listen. >> we live out in the country. right next-to us is grandma, and grandpa. >> a lot of times i feel their pain. these guys had just terrible history. it can get frustrating. as far as how other people look at them. my job is to let them know you can do anything you want to do.
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you know? >> what's that? >> my girlfriend. [ laughter ] >> they say hey, mr. street. >> street has had an especially challenging time. he is serving 45 years for killing his brother during a schizophrenic episode. street first told lockup producers of his story when we met him at indiana's wabash correctional facility. we warn you what you are about to hear is extremely graphic. >> i had become delusional, i say insane. and i heard a voice that you have got to eat some of her bra brains for her to become part of you. i wasn't a sane person that did that back then. you don't eat brains from somebody if you are sane. >> yes.
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i can't really read or write. >> after what he had done, it really don't worry me at all. it's just, i hope that he will be okay living with it. you know. he has to live with something like that. >> donnegan sees potential in street. he arranged for street getting a job working with him, assistant electrician. >> i just started three weeks ago as an electrician trainee. i screw stuff into the wall, carry stuff, holding ladders, clear the messes up. >> what's the red wire? >> i don't know what the wire -- the white wire is common. red wire is hot. black is hot. >> black is hot. >> what is your green wire? >> it's hot too. >> green wire what? your ground wire. >> ground wire. >> right. >> right. >> a lot of things -- that's, in this -- you got, might have a green wire to hot wire.
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ha-ha. this is kind of old. you know. [ indiscernible conversation ] >> make sure the power cut off before you start working on it. >> the truth. >> street i will catch up with you. i will see you in the morning for work. he say he will wake me up good and early. and yeah, he will. an hour earlier. i think mr. street will be okay. i think he will be okay. he just like any other person. as long as you stay out of his way. he will stay out of your way. he is the greatest human. it is a blessing to know him, you snow. >> mr. street is doing fantastically well. when i first met him he was just out of control. very aggressive. throwing substances. cursing. very hard to manage. he is really quite a different person now. >> the prison's mental health staff is so pleased with street
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they are kidding moving him into general population. >> mr. street has been working in the electrical shop for four weeks. he leaves and goes back at the conclusion. i think it is time to move him out of the e dorm. >> he's been stable out there doing a good job. >> compliant. working hard. >> he went out, and went out sat out for a couple hours. he had no problem. >> dupe we hato we have a sense other guys are responding. >> some are scared of him because of his crime. they have seen him at wabash correctional. they haven't caused problems. >> i am concerned about the side effects of the voluntary movements. and itch other offenders will perceive him as odd. >> little bit jerky. >> when i asked him yesterday. but the team to make, the team he is on. they're aware of it. they've don't seem to haver use
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with it. and he can succeed out there. >> good. anything ems anything else on mr. street? we can count him as one of our success stories for now. >> coming up -- >> make sure you know. you told me you were doing it last week. didn't you? >> even as he tries to prove his case, nick compton can't escape the wrath of other inmates. >> snitches get killed. [ bleep ] congestion, for the smog. but there are a lot of people that do ride the bus. and now that the buses are running on natural gas, they don't throw out as much pollution into the air. so i feel good. i feel like i'm doing my part to help out the environment.
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start doing what they're doing. i have too much faith. too much -- too much good things going my way. nick compton believes he is a target of his former gang, the aryan brotherhood. and would prefer to be in protective custody. but the prison must first confirm his claims that the aryans are exporting his mother to protect him from another attack. >> right now we will fry try to necklace compton any mother again and see if she is able to come up with the stuff she says she has. it is probably my, guess, i know it has been over five times i tried to contact her. >> compton's mother says she has receipts for the money orders used for the extortion payments. they're key to get herring son's request for protective custody approved. >> ms. compton. >> yes it is.
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>> this is the prison. how are you doing? >> fine. >> what i am calling about i am trying to get the information about the guys extorting you for nick. >> right. >> i have all of them documents in front of me. >> i need them mailed in. without it, i have to go on, i will not be able to do nothing with the guys extorting him. >> i am a little bit leery. >> of what? >> not knowing what they're going to do. >> as soon as we get nick safe, we'll take care of it. all right. so, are these people still calling you and trying to extort you. >> right. and evidently the one person got money, not only from me but also from nick's sister. and like she said to me, when she she found out nick got beat up. i feel like mom we, have just paid them to kick my brother's butt. >> who did you send the money to? >> the money order want to a person called -- and it is in -- indiana.
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>> okay. >> okay. as soon as i get that information, i will run her name and see who she is visiting. okay. >> all right. >> soon as i get the informationn't i will hoinform n information. i will get this done. that's what is holding me up, the information i need, okay. later compton decides to take matters into his own hands. and calls his mother to encourage her to not delay sending the documents. >> yeah. i mean do you understand the importance of that. i get threats every day. i got threatened twice today. just today. just today. how am i supposed to know what they're going to do? they're capable of doing everything. >> make sure you know the receipts. you told me you were doing that last week, didn't you? >> out in the open, compton draws the attention of other inmates who believe his decision to leave the aryan brotherhood means he is a snitch.
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[ bleep ] coming up. >> i told him that she was waiting and ready to go. the submission here. >> those still behind the walls of prison, frank street starts a new life. >> a long time going getting out of here. >> and later. >> come on [ bleep ], [ bleep ]. >> threats continue to rain down on nick compton. >> are you guys aren't going to save him forever. >> save him for what? ♪ hey lady! noooo! no! [ tires screech ] ♪ nooo! nooo! nooo!
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surrendering chemical weapons. >> in the flash floods sweeping colorado 80 people are missing. experts from the epa heading to hawaii to clean up a massive spill there. 1400 tons of molasses in honolulu harbor killed 2,000 fish. back to "lockup." >> everything that i have, and everything that i ever will have is in this cell. this is the rest of my life. look at this. i have my sink, my kitchen, my toilet, my bed. that's it.
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>> who is it? that's what the administration thinks i am. and it is made out of toilet paper. >> what's on the back of the neck? >> he is the beast. he has his beast head. >> though indiana state prison officials regard steven weaver as a high ranking member of the aryan brotherhood, he is not the only inmate with a reputation. >> i'm 38 years old. i have been down since 1993 for shooting my mom. >> hopefully he will forgive himself that way he went do nothing to himself. you know what i mean. >> medication and therapeutic treatment appropriate vieded by residential treatment unit helped street enough prison officials decide heed can be transferred to general
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population. >> i told them you was waiting and ready to go. yeah, street's mission here is accomplished, man. he, he passed all what he needs to pass. he was great. street kind of simple. the fact that he was already, ready to go before he got up here. i have been looked up all most six years. and, i got way more stuff than street. >> make sure you get your shower shoes. >> yeah, this cell is kind of little. and the door, you have got, the open door. ain't got no cage or nothingai lot more room. a lot more room to move around. he can go outside whenever he want to. play a little basketball. [ laugher ] >> a long time coming getting out of here. >> street is not only going to have to adjust to a new home, but to a new mentor. >> little t. terrance. this is street, frank street.
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you are going to be with him. he will take good care of you, man. if you need anything. that's who you talk to. if you need me. call for me. i will come down there. >> even though donnegan will not be street's mentor, in e dorm. they will see each other at work. donnegan is an electrician, and street his assistant. 6:00 shap. and for pat troll. you take care of yourself oh kay. >> little t. he going to wake you up in the morning. he work with you. >> all right. because, i will wake him up. is it time to go yet. he weak me up at 5:00. we got to be at work at 6:00. he wakes me up at 5:00. lilt will get the pressure of getting up early, an hour early for mr. street. >> as frank street begin is a new life in general population -- correctional officers investigate a recent stabbing in d east,
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administrative segregation. >> somebody i heard got stabbed on 500. steven weaver is one of the inmates on the shakedown list. >> it will give you something to do after they're gone. put everything back. it is not a pain. i am used to it. >> this as it nothits another t. you can hide things. hooks. a broken handle from the food tray. all of that. heat the end. sharpen it up. this can become a weapon. >> they might kidnap my clown. if so, i hope the guys put an apb on it. find it. rescue it. take it where you have to take it. >> moments later, office ears rife at weaver's cell and his clown comes under scrutiny. >> uh-oh. there goes the clown. they're checking him.
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oh. >> i never keep anything in my cell. >> what are-up looking for? >> you can feel if there is anything in there. any kind of. there is nothing in there. made out of toilet paper painted. so it is pretty sealed up. >> a short time later, weaver is back in his cell. >> not bad at all. a pretty good one for a sha shakedown. no animosity. came in, did their jobs. >> what about the clown? >> clthe clown was safe. for now. survives another day. >> after being in prison for more than 20 years, weavers' thoughts have been clouded with far more serious, use than the safety of his clown. he explained on the personal camera provided to him by our producer.
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>> when i first started doing my bit. the only thing i had on my mind was how many people could i kill when i got up in prison. i have kind of worked my way through that after ten years in super max, ad seg unit. now i am 51 years old. i have kind of figured out that, that might not be the way to go. but i can't escape my past. when i first came up here, i stabbed a couple guys. could have easily killed one of them. i don't know how he lived or why he lived. but he did. >> nick compton hopes to survive another day himself. [ bleep ], [ bleep ]. >> compton claims the aryan brotherhood extorted his family for more than $400. internal affairs inspector,
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ralph carassco received money order receipts he was requesting from compton any mother. they should serve as proof of order of money. but carassco thinks they mean suck else. >> we got the receipts from your mom. >> okay. >> ain't no $400. >> okay. comes out to about like $210. something like that. it says to me, debt. it don't say extortion. it says debt. that's what that says to me. because the it because it is small amounts. extortions, i have seen extortions they're hundreds of dollars. >> she has hundreds of dollars. >> inmates find themselves in trouble when they accrue debt in prison. that's what he thinks happened to compton. money orders weren't for prot t protect, but debt repayment. >> tell you what. give you one shot right now to
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tell you the truth. >> i am telling you the truth. >> look at me. >> i'm telling you. how is that -- >> i have seen debt. i've been here quite a bit. >> i have been here since june. june. >> exactly. exactly. exactly. i have been here since july of '89. okay. >> my whole problem is not with me being in debt for tobacco, being a drunk, doing drugs. my problem was because of aryan brotherhood. that's my problem. >> okay. we are getting ready to rectify that. i will fell you what, if i find out this is a debt. listen to me. listen to me. if i find out this -- listen to me. listen to me. listen to me. listen to me. if i find out this is a debt that you owe, we'll be talking again. >> all right. >> okay. >> though he still has the his suspicions, he has decided to temporarily move comptonprotect.
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until he finishes his investigation. >> what will happen is going to happen. i have no control over it. i guess it is safe as i can be right now. a lot safer than i was. >> coming up -- >> some of the phone calls, sounded like he was playing a game on his mom. >> things go from bad to worse for nick compton. >> while i was walking compton back up to the dorm. he was threatened. his life was threatened. your work end? does it end after you've expanded your business?
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[ indiscernible ] >> you start to see [ bleep ]. like i have been to the joint. i'm tougher now. screw that. you know -- and just want to lift weights [ bleep ] with your boys. and [ bleep ]. and if he does call. no education doing the same old [ bleep ]. that's why you come back. that's why you come back. after spending his first nighten a general population dorm, frank street did something he never does. he slept in. >> people that i know from other prisons. and -- that's why i slept so well. because i stayed up so late talking to them. other than that, everything is all right.
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>> you seem real happy? >> i am happy, yes. happy. >> i want to follow up with him make sure things are still going well. i also want to talk about him with what his next step is. how are you? >> it's better. it's better. >> we'll meet up in his office. haven't seen you in a while. >> yeah, been busy. you are always busy? >> i run around a lot. >> making millions of dollars. >> millions and millions. how is work going? >> yeah, i -- i enjoy it. >> that's working well being in the dorm setting? >> very satisfying, yes. >> friend there? >> lots of them. very kind people up there. wonderful. we play card. and make slams. and eat pizzas, pizzas, huh. >> one of these days when high have courage. i will try one. i heard a lot about them. >> street is a work in progress.
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things aren't progressing as well for neck compton. his claims that members of the aryan brotherhood are extorting his family for money are discredited. >> i interviewed the people supposedly the money orders are going to. according to what they were telling me, he was in debt. the one guy doesn't have any affiliations with no organizations whatsoever. which would rule out extortion th th theory. some of the phone calls we listened to. sounded like he was playing a game on his mom. >> how so? >> by telling her about the extortion to get the money to pay for his debts. it's common. i mean they play their family
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thik th like that all the time. he received a report for it. >> he interviewed the two people. interviewed the people -- the address that was on the money orders my mom sent up here. so when they asked him, why is nick sending you money. obviously not going to say the true reason why i am, not going to tell him. the obvious reason is to say, yeah, he owed it to us for whatever reason it was. so, ralph, not believing what i had to say, but believing now. wrote me up for it instead. >> the thing about with mr. compton. this ain't the first time he tried to pull something, not only here, but at other fa si facilities to get protective custody. one of the things where he got caught up this time. other information from sources. likes new get in debt can't pay his debt. behavioral thing. what you do behavioral, is you discipline the behavior. that's what we are doing.
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he is going to protective custody. he is going home here shortly. might be moved further back because of the report. that's not my decision. that's hp's decision. at this point, compton any case is closed. >> later with the individually camera we provided him, compton expressed his feelings about the writeup. >> let's talk about this. the end result on this situation right here. what's going to happen? thrown away. thrown out. in the trash. >> the prison disciplinary board assessed compton with a loss of 60 days good time but suspended it, pending good behavior. on the way back from the hearing, an inmate begins yelling threats. [ bleep ], [ bleep ], [ bleep ].
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after securing compton in the dorm. his escort officer, sergeant tibbles came out and investigated. >> when i was walking compton back to the dorm. he was threatened. i'm looking for the guy. short, a white guy with a blue cap on. i am all most sure i know whuch whuch -- know who it is. as soon as i see him i will know exactly who it is. >> come here. why don't we step in the do for a second. >> the inmate is identified as richard canada. his name was on some money order receipts turned in by compton's mother. >> turn around, cuff up. >> for what? >> i said so. >> are you serious? >> yeah, i am serious. turn around and cuff up. let's go. you are going to your cell.
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>> for what, sergeant. >> you know exactly what. >> no i don't. >> though canada claims to not know why the sergeant detained him. he soon lets slip to another inmate he does know. >> how do you know it's from compton? the only thing it could be to. >> you guys don't save him forever. >> save him from what? >> what do you mean save him from what? don't play dumb you. know what he is doing around here. he is a snitch, you know. [ bleep ], try to do something, try to help him get out of some trouble. and he saying it to me like i did something wrong to him. i did noth wroing wrong to him. he had his mom take copies of the money order receipt he saved me. he sent me money order receipt. i got him out of trouble.
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>> i will have off to sit down, they write him, and he will be cononconfined minutes of the hb. >> coming up. >> i am here to till you guys i did not do what they're accusing me of doing. >> steven weaver argues his case to get out of ad seg. >> i didn't put a hit out on that guy. >> we have a problem with that. >> you think you have a problem with that? >> that's something i am not going to comment on. rm for 30 y. we raise black and red angus cattle. we also produce natural gas. that's how we make our living and that's how we can pass the land and water back to future generations. people should make up their own mind what's best for them. all i can say is it has worked well for us.
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girlfriend. >> oh, she comes a couple times a year. it's look coming out of the darkness into the light for a couple hours. you know? and -- after it is all over, you come back in the darkness, but the light stays with you for a little while. >> today weaver has an opportunity to lift another layer of darkness. he has an appointment with the administrative segregation review board. to argue his case for returning to john rgeneral population. weaver spent the last year in ad seg after the prison received a tip on another inmate. >> i know i have grown up a bad past. i am an easy target for somebody who wants to manipulate internal affairs for you guys they can use my name. it's look gold. so i have come to terms with that. i am here to tell you guys, i did not do what they're accusing
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me of doing. i had nothing to do with it. i didn't know about it until the day after it happened. >> we all know. you know. we know the reason why you're basically over there. >> because i am a member of the aryan brotherhood. >> basically the reason, right. right you have been put over there. and you know on a, face it -- for frz. >> not just a member. you are a high ranking member. >> i can't comment on anything lick tha like that. you guys know i know who the rat is. if i was the person that you think i am. do you think he would still be standing here today. standing out in population. no he wouldn't. but he still its. i didn't put a hit out on that guy. >> if he was in population would we have a problem with that. do you think you would have a problem with that guy? >> that's something i am not going to comment on. i can't tell you, honestly, i don't know. you know what happens to rats. >> i know.
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i am going to tell you, steve. we going to strongly look at it right now. we will make a decision. whatever decision we make. will go to the superintendent. he will have the final say so. >> i am going to be over here. there is just no way they're going to allow me to be out there. they're not stupid. you know? and neither am i. >> he's got a clear conduct. but he is still calling some shots. can't afford to have him. >> problem i hatch with somethiwith -- hatch with something lech that. he is calling shots. call the shot in d east no matter. >> to be on the safe side. true enough he can call the shots from twhar he its now. or call the shots and do whatever. but of the reason for the clear conduct is like you say, you know, he has somebody else doing it. so he doesn't have to do
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anything. >> he thinks he is going to have to deal with the ralt. i think that's what, itch he does come out he is going to probably try it personal leap to take care of it himself. >> right now he stays to stay in dest. on. >> as weaver predicted. the board decided his role in the aryan brotherhood would make him too high risk to return to general population. >> well, i guess that's about it. as you can see, this is no country club prison. there romantic about doing time. there its nothing cool about watching the years go by and knowing that most of them have been wasted. so the next time one of your politicians talk about how easy we have it in here, just remember what i have shown you today and what i have said. thanks.
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