reach for a gun. and god help us if we've done nothing on the issue of mental health. thanks so much for watching. ed schultz and "the ed show" is next. good evening americans, and welcome to "the ed show" live from new york. let's get to work. the man police believe identified as aaron alexis. what is still unclear. why he shot and killed a dozen people. >> that's what we joked about, him being obsessed at his age. >> i think va games is a bigger problem than guns. >> tell congress they need to act and act in time. >> video games have a pernicious, destructive effect. >> there is something evil in our society that we as americans

have to work to try and eradicate. >> why aren't we looking at frequency of approaches per person. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> you're murdering somebody in cyberspace. in a sense, you're performing the act, like it or not. >> earlier this year, 91% of the american people supported expanded background checks for gun purchases. congress voted the measure down. >> let's go pass a piece of legislation restricting either this type of weapon or this capacity of magazine, and there won't be anymore of these. that is an absolute and total folly. >> how much are we really giving up if we said this kind of weapon should not be readily available for anybody who wants to buy one? good to have you with us tonight, folks.

thanks for watching. i can't sugar coat it. the news sucks. all the way around. you know, there's a stark reality to this. here's another shooting. another day in america. it's common sense. it hurts, it's gut wrenching, it's emotional, it scars the country. and, again, as a nation, we are grieving. and we're getting pretty good at this, aren't we? tonight i'm going to tell you something on this program that nobody else is going to tell you. nothing is going to happen with gun control in this country, because of the way we are politically set up, because of the money in politics, because of the attitude and the divide and the cultural divide that exists in this country. how do we get around it? i don't know. most people don't know, either. there is a difference between the middle of the country and the west coast and the east coast. there's a cultural divide. my wife comes from a town called

fergus falls, minnesota. middle of the country. this was just decades ago, not very long ago, back in the '70s and early '80s. kids used to go to high school and go hunting in the morning, then they would have their shotgun in the back of their pickup truck, and they would just go to school and the guns were out in the parking lot, cars unlocked. that's how america was, how it used to be. what happened? you know, kids that go hunting and fishing in the middle of the country, they don't get in any trouble. but that's not the way it is anymore, is it? could you imagine a kid on the east coast or west coast going out hunting early in the morning and then going to school and leaving their gun in the car? wow, things have changed, haven't they? well, if things have changed, why can't we change? just a little bit? 30 years ago, when you've got a dui, it was like a parking ticket, wasn't it? when the cops pulled up behind you and you had a couple cool ones when you were drinking, the

local cop knew who you were and said ah, johnnie, get on home to your parents now. knock that stuff off. today law enforcement is an industry. you get a dui today, you are in for the hassle of your life. and it's expensive. things change. social attitudes have changed over the decades. but on firearms, can't we just change just a little bit? can't we get that background check that 91% of the american people want? it's sad, it's unfortunate. but at this point, mass shootings are almost expected in our society. we have seen so many mass shootings in recent years, we've got a debate going on in america as to what defines a mass shooting. well, there's only three people dead. well, i guess you've got to get into double figures. for it to be a mass shooting. since president obama has taken office in 2009, and the only reason why i mention president obama's name is because he has had to do more of this than anybody. but since he has taken it office

since 2009, there have been 48 mass shootings where four or more people have died. it's an average of roughly one per month. shockingly, there have been five shootings where 12 or more people have died since 2009. president obama has had to address the nation on these mass killings more than once. >> here at ft. hood, we pay tribute to 13 men and women who were not able to escape the horror of war, even in the comfort of home. >> the hopes of a nation are here tonight. we add our faith to yours that representative gabrielle giffords and the other living victims of this tragedy will pull through. the recent stories like this have such an impact on us, because we can all understand what it would be to have somebody that we love taken from us in this fashion. we gather here in memory of 20

beautiful children and 6 remarkable adults. they lost their lives in a school that could have been any school. we are confronting yet another mass shooting. and today it happened on a military installation. in our nation's capital. >> a president who has been absolutely masterful at connecting with people, just has not been able to make a dent on this issue. and it's not president obama's fault. because it is all about the cultural divide i was talking about in this country. there are people who are so stubborn that just can't move on this issue. you know, you and i, we may watch the news and do the news. we may, you know, be novice news consumers. we're really not on the front lines, are we? we're not police officers. we're not doctors. we're not dealing with this stuff every day as counselors. most americans aren't in those professio professions. but the people that are on the front lines are the ones we have

to listen to. like dr. janice orlowski who had the guts to say this in the midst of it all. >> there is something evil in our society that we as americans have to work to try and eradicate. i -- i have to say, i may see this every day, i may, you know, be the chief medical officer of a very large trauma center. but there is something wrong here when we have these multiple shootings, these multiple injuries. there is something wrong. the only thing i can say, we have to work together to get rid of it. i would like you to put my trauma center out of business. i really would. >> we have to work together. that's a novel idea, isn't it? something washington can't do on anything.

that is a doctor who has seen enough, who is willing to stand up and speak in the midst of it all and tell the truth to the american people. she sees it every day. we have to do something. do we listen to those voices, to these professionals who deal with this every day? work together. how do we work together? well, let's start with the gun owners of america. can you budge just a little bit? now, being from the middle of the country, and a guy who loves to hunt and fish, i understand the gun owners of america. i believe i can say that with conviction. hunted and fished for 40 years of my life. absolutely love it. do it every fall. i understand going out pheasant hunting and duck hunting and going deer hunting. and there are people in the middle of the country and in all pockets of the country who think that that lifestyle, that choice of activity is going to be threatened if we pass any gun laws whatsoever. and the special interests play on the fears of these gun owners.

and this is one of the reasons why we can't get anything done, even when 91% of the american people want to do something on it. let's continue to work together. let's work on the gun owners. let's work on society. what do you mean society? i mean the parents. there's this thing in america called parenting. we all make mistakes, and none of us are perfect. but if you've paid attention to your kid in the last 24 hours, who knows, maybe they have had their attention grabbed by this. this is the latest xbox 360 that only cost $250 million to produce. oh, it's a dandy. it's called "grand theft auto." let's see. it's got stealing cars, shooting people, and beating up hookers. if you're a parent and you allow your son or daughter to watch this, even if they're beyond 18 years old, you're a lousy parent, in my opinion. you play a role in this.

we all play a role in this. oh, wait a minute. this is the first amendment. we're so concerned about the second amendment. this is the first amendment. this is freedom of speech. but you know what? i have a question tonight for our audience. when did the first amendment and responsibility part ways? when did the road split on the first amendment of the constitution and a responsibility to understand society and what's right and wrong? if you think as a parent this is good for your kid, you're wrong. it is not. oh, by the way, the guy that did the shooting yesterday, he was a big fan of this kind of stuff. does it matter? i don't know. it can't help. then there's the let's continue to work together. then there's the mental health community. you mean to tell me that this guy heard voices? he could have been possibly schizophrenic. he was paranoid, a paranoid schizophrenic? and you mean to tell me there was no information chain whatsoever that would bring us

to the conclusion that maybe he shouldn't own a firearm? can we move congress on that? well, we've got privacy issues, ed. really? let's go over to the nsa and see how the phones are working. don't give me that crap. we can do whatever we want to do in this country. and until somebody tells them people who have mental issues should not have access to firearms, we're going to have more presidential speeches. we're going to get better at grieving. let's continue to work together here. let's see, the parents covered, the gun owners covered. now let's work on the special interest groups who play on the fears of the gun owners. has anybody pointed out it was the super bowl for the until we

get campaign finance reform fixed in this country, we can expect to have all this stuff taking place. we can expect to have no laws passed, because you see, the special interests will absolutely scare the living daylight out of these lawmakers who don't have the intestinal fortitude to take that vote, because they're afraid what kind of commercial they're going to go home and see. it is the special interest that is protecting these gun owners who might say in an interview, yeah, i think we've got to do something, but deep down inside, they want to be protected, because fear is what has been thrown in front of them. time and time again. and then, of course, there's the emotional strain. maybe we don't hear from people who have been through a family loss enough in our media. maybe we don't tell the stories of the grieving parents and the long-term effects that it has on families. maybe we need to do a better job of that.

but let's all work together. let's all make sure that we can get some changes when it comes to firearm usage in this country. i wish i was confident, but tonight i'm not. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question. will any event ever change the way congress views guns in america? text a for yes, b for no to 67622. you can always go to our blog at ed.msnbc.com. we'll bring results later on in the show. for now, let me turn to elijah cummings who has lost a relative to gun violence, and has the scar on him emotionally. i think forever. congressman, you and i have talked about this in the past. this is just something that just never leaves you. and it will never leave the families that went through that horrific event yesterday. congressman, what can we do? >> well, first of all, ed, we must have some kind of

meaningful gun safety legislation. and no doubt about it. but you and everything that you said, you're right. the -- we have a situation where the nra is influencing quite a few legislators, all over the country. both state and federal. and probably local, to some degree. and i've got to tell you, ed. when you think about the two colorado legislators that were just recalled, that sent -- i'm sure a chilling effect -- had a chilling effect on a lot of folks. in other words, even if he had people who were inclined to vote for like universal background checks, which 90% of the people are for, or just reasonable trafficking legislation like the legislation that i proposed where we had bipartisan

participation, if they were on the line, i think a lot of them are backing up now, saying, wait a minute, wait a minute, hold on. i don't think i can do that. because i'm worrying about losing. we've got to look at the situations being bigger than that. we've got to make sure that we have reasonable gun laws to protect our people, and i think that it's just very, very sad what happened here in d.c. my heart goes out to those families. but, you know, ed, you and i and many others, we've got to continue to speak out. we don't have the right to be silent. and so i'm going to continue to do that, and i know there are others that will do it too. and i'm sure the president will do his part also. but, again, we're in a climate, ed, again -- with that vote in colorado, i think it may have had even more impact than a lot of people might imagine. >> see, that is the issue. until you get the special interests out of this -- >> yeah. >> we can't expect to have the votes change. i mean, if you can't get it

after sandy hook, when are you going to be able to get it? the country has been emotionally scarred. we all feel for it. but these special interests are so entrenched in washington and politicians are so afraid to take that vote, how do we break that? >> you know what, after sandy hook, i tell you, i had -- i had a little confidence we would be able to get something -- something through. >> yeah. >> and when you talk about 20 kids shot at close range with an assault weapon, i mean, that's -- that's kind of tough. but even with that, ed, we couldn't do it. so i just think that we've got to continue to push. >> are congressional members afraid of the national rifle association, congressman? >> i think a number of them -- no doubt about it. keep in mind, a lot of them are afraid of two things. one, that they will then get an opponent who is to the right of them. >> sure.

>> and two, that that opponent will then be financed in large part by the national rifle association. >> and until we get that kind of money and have campaign finance reform, i think campaign finance reform is the absolute key to getting the will of the people and the majority of the -- the majority of americans want something done on this issue. >> they do. i agree. and ed, we cannot continue to let situations like what happened yesterday be our normal. people are kind of getting used to it. and we can never get used to that. because i can tell you, the pain that i feel, my nephew being killed two years ago, shot down, i still feel it every day. i feel the emotion right now as i'm talking to you. and so hopefully i know that there are a lot of people that have gone through the similar things that i've gone through. and hopefully that passion will drive some of these legislators to do the right thing. >> congressman elijah cummings, thanks for being with us tonight. appreciate it so much. thank you. >> thank you. >> coming up, politics in the

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>> perfect. >> meet and greet. >> o hey, we've got the good stuff here. >> middle class voters speak out at the harken steak fry. >> we need good-paying jobs. >> really important to my family. >> the most important issue, the economy. >> the environment. >> it's important we have all options open for women so they can get the right kind of care they need, rather than someone dictate what they need for them. >> someone needs to do something to restore the manufacturing in this country. service entry jobs are important. i don't think we as a country can survive on those type of wages. >> i would like to see them start something like the wpa again. most of the social programs were created then. most of the infrastructure of this country was created then. and it could be done again. >> let's bring in senator tom harken of iowa, who has hosted that steak fry. i'm forgetting how many years

but a whole lot of meat over the years. and a lot of conversation with focus in the middle of the country. and our team was there, senator hark harkin, and it's interesting, all of the things that you have talked about, and advocated for, and things that we try to highlight on this program about jobs, infrastructure and, you know, paying america back for what it's wanted for a long time is really what all of those folks talked about. and if you could give us a pulse of the middle of the country as -- and some of these folks, senator, said that, you know, washington is not listening to them. what's your response to that? >> my response is they're absolutely right. we're not listening. we're talking about a whole lot of other things, or we're not doing anything. and yet the middle class is being eroded. i heard that time and time again this weekend. that people know that the jobs aren't there for their kids. middle class families in iowa, the last generation, world war ii generation, raised their

children, sent them to schools, got them an education. and yet their kids are not going to have as good a life as they -- as the parents had. and so there's this sense that we're losing the middle class in america. it's being eroded. and by the way, vice president biden gave a great speech and focused on just that topic. about the loss of the middle class in america. i hear that more than i hear just about anything else. >> was that the case four years ago? as the -- of the american people, have they caught up with this issue, do you think? >> oh, have they ever caught up with it. and second only to just the general issue of the middle class. of course, we have a lot of elderly people in iowa. and i'm hearing more and more about the fear they have of their retirement. that they won't have any retirement money. ed, when i first came to congress, one out of every two americans had a pension. something that would last them until the day they died. today it's only one out of every five. and it's getting worse all the

time. so a lot of people are really concerned about, you know -- and we're living longer. so when they get to be in their 80s and perhaps 90s, they're not going to have any money. and i'm it telling you, people are really worried about that. >> senator, tell us about joe biden. can hillary clinton sell herself the same way that joe biden did? i mean, where do iowans stand on this? >> well, i think there's a lot of support on both sides. i will tell you this. joe biden is beloved by iowans. they love joe biden. he's been to every one of our 99 counties more than once. and it was something to see him call out people by name and they're just -- a lot of fondness for joe biden in iowa. but again, there's a lot of support for hillary clinton too. so i don't know how that's all going to -- all going to wash out. i can tell you, they're both very popular in my state. >> does the republican party

have anything to offer these voters? in your opinion? >> well, you know, ed, you're talking what am i hearing from people. i hear about the loss of the middle class, i hear about retirement fears. but i have got to tell you, i go into grocery stores, hy-vee, and people come up and say, can't the republicans at least sit down and talk with you and negotiate with you? what can you do about the republicans in the house that just block everything? i tell them, i'm just as frustrated as they are. you know, ed, i've been here -- as you know, i'm retiring next year. i've been here for 40 years, 39 years now. >> has the art of the deal left washington, tom? >> not on our side. i'm always willing to negotiate. i understand the art of compromise. but when you have someone who is implaquable, who said it's this way or the highway, how do you deal with that, ed? i mean, it's -- the tea party people and the house are tearing this place apart. because they refuse to negotiate in good faith. >> senator tom harkin, iowa.

great to have you with us, senator. >> good to be with you. >> again, congratulations. >> thanks. still to come, it's been two years since occupy protesters made their voices heard down on wall street. we'll look at the group's continuing influence. do they have any? and joe biden fueled more than speculation about a 2016 run this weekend. i'll ask the rapid response panel if democrats should prepare for a big primary fight. but next, i'm taking your questions. ask ed live. that's next, right here on msnbc.

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of a greater discussion that's taken place all over america. it would signal that people are ready for change, and people are making a decision for the progressive movement when it comes to income and equality, when it comes to tax fairness when it comes to fair share, when it comes to health care, when it comes to housing and when it comes to public education. mr. de blasio is a true progressive, and i think it would be a real statement. our next question is from david a. johnson. he wants to know, what would you recommend? we all do to improve voter papgs in upcoming elections? that has to come from the belly. it has to come from the heart and soul. you have to want to do this. the issues have to mean enough to you to motivate you to do it. but for guidance, i would listen to the unions. the unions are educated, they are organized and they don't give up. and that's exactly what it's going to take if we're going to

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fairgrounds in indianola, iowa. every year, hundreds of democrats gather at tom harkin's fu fund-raiser to eat steak and rub elbows. it's become a litmus test for the party and democrats considering a presidential run want an invitation to speak at the steak fry, no doubt. this year's featured speakers were joe biden and san antonio mayor julian castro. biden's attendance fired up speculation about a possible presidential bid in 2016. so "the ed show" decided to do a straw poll of its own. we asked folks, who do you want to see as the democratic presidential nominee from the middle of the country in 2016? >> i'm a big supporter of hillary clinton. >> well, i like joe biden. i supported him in 1988, and he ran before. the first time. hillary would be an excellent candidate. so i'm a little mixed with my feelings at the moment.

>> i'm leaning towards hillary clinton. and i have always been a supporter of joe biden. but i'm leaning towards hillary clinton this time. >> you know, hillary clinton did pretty well in 2008 and i would like to see her run again. i support her all the way. >> i guess i would have to say don't listen, joe. i would have to say if i had to choose between the two, hillary. >> hillary clinton. >> i would go with -- joe is very capable. hillary is -- it's time for a lady. it's time for a lady. >> at this time, i would support hillary clinton. until i know of anymore viable candidates to be considered. >> i hope it's hillary clinton. i just think she brings ingenuity. it's time to see a woman in office. >> if joe biden were in, i could see myself going for him. >> hillary clinton. i love hillary. so if she runs, i'll be there working on her campaign, putting in all the hours i can. >> all demographics are represented. joining me now on our rapid response panel, the grio, bob

this rum, daily beast and also the nation's katrina vandenhoofel. let's say they both jump in. katrina, what does iowa mean to both candidates? >> iowa means a lot. it's symbolic. i love listens to the citizens of iowa. but i have to say, this democratic party heading into 2016 is going to have a fierce debate on its hand. because the party is united on cultural issues, but it's where the party stands on a smart economic populus message. what it's going to do about a system rigged against working families. what it's going to do to tackle wall street and champion economic fairness. the candidate who really hasn't announced yet but who speaks to that clearly has done well in progressive polling wasn't there and isn't slated, but it's elizabeth warren, another woman whose name should be in the ring. and hillary clinton, there is passion around her, but i'll tell you, there is a lot of passion around elizabeth warren.

>> will there be a lot of competition in the democratic field? >> i just get the sense watching j joe biden, he likes hanging out with people, a people person, enjoys being vice president. i don't think he would jump in if that meant there would be a fracture in the party. and i really do think if hillary clinton speaks to some of the issues you're talking about, she will do really well. because just like barack obama could elevate the conversation about race, she has an opportunity to elevate the conversation not only about income inequality but also gender politics, as well. >> bob, you've got an hour to talk about this. >> look, i don't want to be too overt, but i think hillary clinton, if she runs, will be the democratic nominee for president. i think she has broad support among women, and she has broad support among former obama supporters and she has broad support among a lot of the people who care about the issues katrina was talking about. the only way she can be defeated is if she defeats herself. that's what happened in 2008. >> that solid. >> in a year of change, in a year of change, she ran as the candidate of caution and

experience. i don't think she'll make that mistake again. and i don't think there's another barack obama waiting in the weeds. >> was joe biden in iowa? because he's long-time friends with tom harkin, or was he there for something else? >> you said earlier, maybe he did it as a favor to harkin. i think he did it as a favor to himself. i think he wants to run for president. and if she doesn't run, i think he will run for sure. and you know, there's this argument about both of them that they're too old, time for a generational shift in the party. i think when folks watch what's happened to barack obama, democrats, they're going to want someone who is a tough and tested fighter. and i think that helps her, and i think it helps joe biden. >> but there is -- i mean, the democratic party is divided. tom harkin stands for what he spoke of a few months ago, which is the need for a populist insurgency inside the democratic party. the clinton democratic party was a different one. we saw larry summers defeated this past week and he stood for more democratic party which was more beholden. >> he didn't have the senate votes. it wasn't obama.

the president saw -- >> saw that. we're talking in a city in which bill de blasio, who has become more of a national name, has spoken to a message about the need to tackle inequality and to speak for economic fairness at a time when there are millions living in poverty in this city. and that prefigures, i think, a fight that maybe hillary clinton will take up. you don't disagree. >> the one thing i do disagree about, i don't assume that hillary clinton 2016 will be the same as hillary clinton 2008 or hillary clinton or bill clinton 1992 and 1996. i think she is smart. i think she has the right values. i think she understands. >> she would go after wall street regulation? i mean, that's a big deal. >> listen, it's the vocabulary you use. she can talk about economic fairness, she can talk about inequality, she can talk about a middle class squeeze. when you talk about de blasio and the nation published this. and then the times did too. astounding statistic that explains his victory.

46% of the people in this city live at that time 150% of the poverty level or below it. i don't know how you raise families under those circumstances. >> can hillary clinton match the progressive message of joe biden? and if elizabeth warren jumps in, or howard dean, for that matter? i mean, those two candidates, warren and dean, what i think push clinton and biden to be more progressive to speak to the very issues we mentioned. >> the only thing about senator elizabeth warren, she was reluctant to run for senate so i don't know if she would right away want to jump into a presidential race. but i think that as long as hillary's advisers are giving her the messaging around these progressive issues, she'll do really well, because she has the experience to back that up. >> will the president play a factor in '16? >> don't -- >> here's the president with abc over the weekend with george stephanopoulos. play this. >> what i would say to folks out there is we are tremendously lucky to have an incredible

former secretary of state who couldn't have served me better. and an incredible vice president who couldn't be serving me better. and i suspect if he has both of them, they would say it's way too premature to start talking about -- >> he's in iowa. >> 2016. well, you know, iowa is a big state and he's an old friend of tom harkin's. >> you know, very clever. but if hillary clinton was speaking her mind right now, she might well be criticizing president obama's very smart move to opt for diplomacy which 79% said they support. so i think that's a measure of -- >> we know that hillary clinton is for universal health care, which would really fire me up. i'm ready for round two in hear. >> look, i want a democratic president. i want democratic president who will appoint the next members of the supreme court. i think this is critical. i don't think she is going to run a triangulating campaign from the 1990s. we've got to run.

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in this country that night they started camping in the park near the new york stock exchange. two months later in the early hours of the morning, cleared out in a raid organized by mayor michael bloomberg and the nypd. many questioned whether it could sur vief without a base or clear objective. the group has splintered. the group still has no clear leader, but they changed the conversation in the country. the core message has survived. occupy's rally cry, we are the 99% became much more than the unifying slogan for the folks camping out in the park in new york city. the idea of the 99% versus the 1%, the ever-expanding gap between the top earners in america's middle class shape the narrative of the 2012 election. president obama portrayed himself as a champion to the middle class. mitt romney sided with the 1%,

called out the imaginary 47%. lost the election. put into words. we still use to this day. today occupy events are scheduled to take place across the globe. here in new york, occupy's labor outreach committee plans to take action for fast food workers at mcdonald's and call for a transaction tax which would put wall street profits into essential social services like health care and student debt. joining me now is occupy wall street protester jesse algreka. congratulations. it's alive. >> it's still there. a big reason is the sentiment is there. it's obvious since we bailed out wall street only one guy out of a hundred is doing good. he's doing very good. but he wants to remind you how lazy you are. aren't i so awesome? you bailed me out and the government can't do anything. >> what do you say to the people who bring forth the idea you're

disorganized, you're no longer relevant? >> i would imagine going back to like the founding fathers. like look at these rebels. they don't want to do what they're told. i look at the perspective of we'd be better organized if we had billionaires financing us, if we were totally astroturfed in. democracy is noisy. it doesn't make sense. >> what has happened in the last two years? after the raid came down, a lot of people were frustrated, i think. what has happened? what impact have you had? >> look at hurricane sandy, for instance. when occupy first came in, we started providing services for people. there's hungry people. we didn't protest to feed hungry people. it just needed to be done. sandy was a good example. you occupy sandy. a lot of people went down and helped. i didn't see the tea party people there. i didn't see the free market revive the economy because we gave them all the tax cuts they

demanded. the reason we have -- >> i think the biggest thing occupy did was change the narrative of the country and focus the narrative of the country on what's important. i think you made a tremendous mark. but you gave verbage to the obama team. do you believe that? >> i do, but i sometimes worry that obama wants to talk about occupy wall street and then govern like larry sumers. the more they do for the working class the better politically. or the republicans, 47%? that ruined your election. good luck. >> not much has changed on that side, you think. >> if anything, more hostile twords working class people. >> they have. bill de blasio, i got a question earlier in this program about him. i think he has brought it home here in new york which is a microcosm of the rest of the country. how big is this mayoral race for

him to win this thing? >> i think it's huge. >> after bloomberg for 12 years. >> absolutely. i think it gives him chance to speak truth to the problems that reach us today. it's true. we're all going broke and watching wall street shower under record profits. i don't want to throw my body into the volcano to prove ian rand's message was right. >> what are you doing with the fast food situation? >> we need to fight for collective bargaining rights. if you're going to take away my right to live and my food stamps, you can't be outraged when i'm in the streets. >> will this have an impact? >> it absolutely must have an impact. in my opinion, we should double the minimum wage. minimum $10 an hour minimum wage. we should do everything we can

to fight for working class americans. >> good to have you with us. that is "the ed show." "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. good to have you. >> thank you, ed. good to see you. thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, the kamikaze part. the tea party fueled gop is on a mission. threatening to push the nation head first off the economic cliff. they're vowing to shut the government down over the new health care law. even though it will help millions of americans. some house republicans are so reckless that today the conservative wall street journal warned the tea partiers to stop what they're planning. quote, kamikaze missions rarely turn out well, least of all for the pilots. this ruthless plot comes five s