good evening. i'm milissa rehberger. the president's comments are the highlight of a four-day event. we're looking at the black caucus phoenix award dinner. moments from now president obama is scheduled to give a keynote speech. right now this is john lewis speaking. we are joined tonight also by karen finney who is the host of "disrupt" here on nbc. karen, thank you for being with us. >> glad to be here. >> spirit of 1963 is the theme. martin luther king's "i have a dream" speech. what do you think the could

would like to hear from the president tonight? >> you know, so much of the focus of the conference has been not looking back but looking forward. i think they're going to want to hear the president tell wrus we're going go. we're still fighting for things like jobs, access to affordable health care, gun violence and crimes in the inner cities. so there are a number of issues they were talking about 50 years ago that twhanlt to see what this president is going to be doing in the next two, three years of his presidency to move the ball forward. >> also joining us from washington is rebecca from politico. thank you for being with us tonight. >> thanks for having me. >> the president has had some tense times also he tries to convince some of his strongest supporters to his side of the argument against taking the side of syria. did that hurt the relationship? >> no. now what's interesting the president is addressing it.

it's not because of policy moves that the admin strags has made but also personal comments that he's made, that eric holder has made in the wake of the zimmerman case and the trayvon martin incident, and that's something that's really resonated. you've seen as time has gone on and particularly in the second term a kind of strength that we had. necessarily seen in the first term. >> it is. some of the remarks he made after trayvon martin's murder were things they'd wanted to hear for some time. a couple of other things that are of critical importance that have happened over the course of this last several months that they'll want to hear the pretty talk about, voting rights act. i mean we've heard many talk

about how the need to fix what has been struck down by the supreme court, there are still questions about what the department of justice will do, how they'll proceed. cbc members are going to want to hear more about that and implementation reform. actually they've been targeting african-americans in their effort os to sign people up. >> in your opinion, has the black community been disappoint thad the president hasn't really addressed race more? >> i think they have been surprised that he hasn't addressed it more directly, and it's interesting because when you talk to folks at the white house, they sort of would say, well, you know, when we're talking about the economy, when we're talking about jobs, we're talking about everybody, and while that's true and this is part of why i think those trayvon martin remarks were so remarkable is he addressed what our specific systemic challenges in the black community. you know, the other uv that the black community is very

interested to hear more about is the sentencing reform issues that we heard the attorney general talk about because again we know that those laws are not evenly and ee cally applied across all peoples, and, again, that's the kind of issue where you want to see some action from a president who understands the kind of racial disparities in those kinds of laws. >> rebecca, do you think we'll hear the president or anyone talk about the rash of violence in chicago tonight? >> you know, it will be interesting to see whether or not he does address that. the first lady has addressed in the past violence in chicago, particularly in the wake of pendleton. it's interesting the way the president has tended to address those issues. that's been his tendency. even when we heard from him in the march on wash, as he's intended do in the past, he's universalized it.

that's why the trayvon remarks were so remarkable and something they waited to hear so many times. they tyke it back to his personal experience. ite something they wanted to hear. it's something the attorney general has been pushing very hard and something the president feels very strongly about as well. >> karen, the president has been focusing a lot on the economy obviously. the unemployment rate for african-americans is 13%. that's above the national policy. how much inspiration do you think we'll hear about that tonight? >> i think we're going to hear a version of what we heard this week obviously with the anniversary of the stock market crash. we heard the president give a number of speeches this week and talk about efforts that his administration has taken to get the economy back on track. i think there should be no surprise. we'll likely hear about the potential showdown with republicans in congress when we talk about things like the debt

ceiling and shutting down the government because again part of what the president has been talking about is the need for investments in infrastructure for example to create jobs. that's something the cbc has been very supportive of. i think we'll hear that in the context of the narrative from the president this week. >> rebecca, to that point, we heard the president speaking against congress and their actions toward him this past week. do you think we'll hear him talk many like that tonight? >> i wouldn't be surprised to hear that at all. virtually every remark we've heard from the president so far in the last week, virtually every day, we've heard him attack the congress, events that were focused on the economy, the resurgence of the auto industry. any event he's been at, he's used it as an opportunity to turn on the republicans in congress. pretty sharp remarks on friday in particular when he said that the republicans in congress are just trying to mess with me and

are not particularly -- i mean it was -- you know, it's the kind of aggressive tone we've heard from him ever since congress has come back into town, kind of that pivot they wanted to do earlier. >> all right. both of you stand by. we want go to the cbc dinner right now where the chairman of the cbc is speaking right now, and he will introduce the president. let's listen. >> in 2008 i stood on a porch in front of a row home in west philadelphia with a group of young children and michelle obama and barack obama, and at that moment in time, i'm not sure we could envision what would unfold, but the auto industry is back, housing's back, our young people are home from iraq and they're coming home from afghanistan. the president has added millions of new jobs, 41 consecutive

months of job growth. this has been an extraordinary period in american and world history and it's been led by a young man who is a humble but extraordinary servant. ladies and gentlemen, let us welcome the president of the united states of america and first lady michelle obama. ♪ ♪

♪ hello, cbc. thank you so much. everybody, please have a seat. have a seat. michelle and i are happy to be here with such a good-looking crowd. everybody's cleaning up nice. thank you to shock a fata for not just the great introduction but more importantly your leadership, especially on the issues of brain research that has the potential to change so many lives. i want to thank she niece washington and everybody at the cbc foundation for doing so much

to help our young people achieve their god-given potential. i see so many friends here tonight, and obviously, you know, these last -- these last several weeks have been momentous in a lot of ways. many of you i had an opportunity to see both hosting at the white house but then at the actual anniversary, the 50th anniversary of the march on washington. and it was a little rainy that day. we didn't have a nice roof over our heads, but that wasn't enough to keep all of you away. it wasn't enough to keep me away. it wasn't enough to keep folks from all across the country from coming out to pay tribute to not only dr. king, not only john

lewis, not only the well known heroes of the civil rights movement but to all the ordinary americans who made it possible for so many of us to stand here today. and as i looked out on that crowd listening to christine king ferris and reverend lowery and congressman lewis, it was impossible not to appreciate just how much progress we've made. it was impossible not to think of all the hearts that have been opened. they never gave up or give in. and as i said on that day, to dismiss the magnitude of that progress, to somehow suggest that little has changed dishonors the courage and sacrifice of all those who paid the price to march in those years.

but what i also said, and i think there wasn't a speaker there that day or on saturday in the other commemoration of the march who didn't make this point, we would also dishonor those heroes to suggest that the work is some how complete. it's not just an abstraction.

it's not just a formality. it has to go hand in hand with economic opportunity, that in order to pass the enduring legacy of slavery and jim crow, we have to make it easy for every american to earn their piece of the american dream. so fast forward to today, 50 years later. we all understand we have too be vigilant against any attempt to roll back our hard won civil rights, whether that means tearing down barriers put up by those who seek to restrict the right to vote or making sure our criminal justice system works equally well for everybody, not just for some but at a time when black unemployment remains twice as high as white unemployment, at a time when working americans of all races have seen their

wages staying nate. even corporate profits as folks at the very top are soaring. we've got to pick up the torch of economic justice. we have to make this a country where anybody who works hard can earn their way into the middle class. and until we do, we will not let up, and we will not rest, no matter how much resistance we get. we will keep on pressing forward because it's good for america. it's the right thing to do. we can't rest until every american knows the security of quality affordable health care. in just over a week --

>> we're having a little problem with the signal coming out of washington there. but we're going to continue to listen to the president and hope that this resolves itself. karen finney, are you still there with us? >> i'm here. >> yeah, we're obviously having a little problem with the video here. but the president is already addressing some of the issues that we had talked about. let's go over those again. he mention thad the justice system needs to work equally for all. >> that's right. >> he also immediately addressed unemployment as we were speaking about a few minutes ago. >> it was also very important that he acknowledged that black unemployment remains higher and he talks about, you know, the other factors that impact economic justice for people in this country. >> okay. apparently we have a signal back. let's go back to the president. >> it's priceless. now you can do it for less than a cell phone bill. that's what change looks like.

every american has access to the best education. we have to make sure they have ak stoes a quality preschool. there's no better investment. we should be making it right now. it's the right and their families through tax credits and grants and student loans that are going further than ever before, but we've got more to do. so i've been talking to colleges.

telling them they need to do their part by bringing costs down because in a 21st century economy, a higher education is not a luxury. it's an economic imperative and everybody should be able to afford it. not just a few. >> we won't rest until we. >> karen, we heard the president touching on some things we knew he would. h was talking about the unemployment rate. >> right. he was talking that and all the pieces that have to come together. why universal pre-k and head start get them on the right track. that they're then able to get the jobs they need. one thing we know in the black community, great progress has

been made with regard to attending college, but then not necessarily in sort of wealth creation after college. so for the president to talk about college, affordable, and ensuring there are those opportunities beyond college, it's very important, particularly for this audience. >> he was also mentioning -- we were talking about the higher unemployment. it's literally twice what white unemployment is at 13%. >> right. absolutely. and it -- you know, that's been annive. one of the things the president talked about is in this economy, one of the things we've seen, we've seen companies coming back. we've seen ceo pay going up, but we've seen wages stagnating. one of the things this president -- one of the things the audience wanted to hear and that the president has been very concerned about is how do we make sure that more of that money -- he's talked about raising the minimum wage so they can actually earn a living wage

and survive on that living wage. >> okay. thank you both for joining us. unfortunately we're having a terrible time with the signal. we were looking forward to what the president had to say. unfortunately it hasn't worked out. he did touch on the unemployment rate and justice for all in our justice system. by the way, or own tamron hall is hosting the event tonight. unfortunately we're missing her as well. that does it for us here in new york city and the president's speech in washington. [ male announcer ] some things are designed to draw crowds. ♪ ♪ others are designed to leave them behind. ♪ the all-new 2014 lexus is. it's your move. ♪

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somebody let me sit down. i don't care who lets me sit down. >> holman is changing and the faith-based honor dorm reflects

that transformation. this nondenominational self-governing dorm provides opportunities for inmates to achieve personal growth. >> men can come into that environment, be nurtured in their spiritual needs, i guess is one way to put it. they have an opportunity to be productive, have a sense of purpose in life. >> good morning. how are you doing? >> living area, without a doubt, is much better than general population is. there are more tvs, there are more opportunities, you have computers, but everything is more structured, which means that there's a point systems, so if you mess up, you get points taken away, you have to keep a point level in order to be able to stay in the dorm. if there is any disciplinary action, you get moved out of the dorm. >> this is sort of like the home away from home. hopefully, this is temporary. very temporary. >> michael jordan was sentenced to life without parole from charges ranging from rape to burglary. he has called prison home for

the past 24 years. >> after the honor dorm was developed, i was reluctant. this was a concept completely new to all of us. i put in an application, got involved before i started doing janitorial work or whatever was needed of me originally. i went from there to taking on a leadership role, currently teaching classes. >> each inmate in honor dorm has a job. ray everidge is serving life for theft. his job is dorm security. >> my job consists of monitoring the dorm. i walk down each aisle and check for what they call uniformity. uniformity is where you check to make sure all the beds are properly clothed and make sure all their living area is in order. >> in general population, correctional officers can write up inmates for infractions. >> thank you.

>> but here in the honor dorm, fellow inmates police the hallways. >> if you see anyone violating, you give them a warning, tell them to stop doing it. if you see a direct violation, it's your option to give them a direct write-up. if you get a write-up, you go before a panel. and if you lose so many points, you get removed from the dorm. >> i love construction work. i have a building here that i designed i hope to build upon my release. god willing. >> when you get out here, all that tension seems to gradually dissipate. this is a blueprint of what i built. maybe do something positive with life for a change. it gives you a different perspective on the things that you've done in your life. >> still, the warden runs a tight ship, even in honor dorm, and has noticed a recent increase in marijuana use. in his monthly meeting with the representatives from the dorm, he tackles this issue head-on. >> you can't tell me that the people in the dorm don't know who's using the dope or if you're selling or pushing dope out here. you can't tell me that you don't

know who is doing that. it hurts the overall image and process of the community when it comes up like that. >> we coordinate our own duty. today, we're heading into the faith dorm. there are some that have not made the grade, and i guess the one fellow we're going to talk to now is one who tested positive for marijuana trace elements. do you know why you're moving out? it's that reefer you smoked. >> i don't smoke no reefer. >> you were around it. some know how to beat the test. they don't have distinguishing traits between those who beat it and those who are around it. you are suffering the consequences. >> a single infraction is an automatic ticket back to the hectic atmosphere of general population. inmate laurence stall learned that lesson the hard way. >> there was a guy, he apparently thought i disrespected him somehow, and he

asked me outside. as soon as we got out there, he swung on me. we got into a scuffle, nothing real big. that's what caused me to get thrown out of the honor dorm. that was a year ago this may. honor dorm material. >> honor dorm material. >> that's me. hopefully pretty soon, i'll go back. i'm on the top of the list now. >> without the possibility of parole, lawrence stall has nothing but time to reflect on the events that landed him in prison 26 years ago. >> it was a homicide/robbery that got me here. i had never done any pcp. i was high, not really even thinking about what happened. we go rob a place and then two people got killed. we picked them up, took them out to a wooded area and they were killed. it's not really something i like to talk about a lot. and i've come to accept prison, you know, as my lot in life. we got one coming in on that bed. >> with a bed freeing up,

chaplain summers informs the man at the top of the list that it's his time to move back to honor dorm. >> the lost lamb. we're coming to get you, man. >> i feel good. >> glad to get out of here. >> you're coming back? >> i hope not. i'm ready. >> you got my name. >> i didn't realize i had that much tension on me. it was just like a weight that was lifted. >> for a guy serving life without parole, the honor dorm is as close to freedom as you'll ever get. >> where do we want to start? >> my bible. i have to give a shout out at my bible. step outside at nighttime, which is something i couldn't do for years. there's a lot of little perks i mean most people take for granted, little bitty things we think a lot of. just standing under the stars for a minute. this is really a job. coming up on "lockup: extended stay" -- we meet one of the most infamous

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that's it. holman's ad-seg unit houses roughly 200 inmates, some of which are the most violent and dangerous. steven parker is one of the most notorious. >> i'm in maximum security. i'm stuck in a lockup cell. they may not ever let me out of lockup because i have a tendency, every time i get out, i try to kill somebody. i go completely calm. i make up my mind what i'm going to do. i go into these zones where i turn into this cold-blooded. i don't know what causes it, other than just being depressed and feeling like i have nothing else to lose and nothing else to live for.

i grew up pretty rough. my mother left when i was real young. i lived with my stepmother and my dad. and my stepmother, she was really hateful. she was kind of mean and abusive. i just wanted to kill her, and i thought that would be what ended the pain and the problems that she caused. one morning, i woke up about 4:00 in the morning and drove to where they was living, my stepmother and my dad, and rang the doorbell. and when she answered the doorbell, i shot her at point blank range. and then my dad -- my dad come around the corner on me and i shot him three times. i've always regretted shooting my dad because i felt like i was close to my dad. it almost killed me, you know? my stepsister called the police on me, and i surrendered to the police that morning.

i felt like i was at the end of my rope when did what i did. >> our crew first met steven parker more than a year earlier during our shooting of the original "lockup: holman." he was in ad-seg back then and considered very dangerous. >> steven parker is crazy. he's not a person that's very intelligent. >> it wouldn't take much to insight cite incite a riot or whatever, you know. you could take four officers hostage at the same time and it's going to domino. it's going to domino. they don't have control. it's just a delusion. >> he's quite an individual. here a few weeks ago, he called me up to his cell. he was having a real problem with his next door neighbor. in fact, he just told me, he said, if you don't move me or my next door neighbor, i'm going to kill him. if steven was having -- if he was having these kind of thoughts or these kind of problems, the guy next door -- somebody needed to be moved. that's why we went ahead and did it.

again, steven's a big man and -- but i have to say in much a way, he's a big man in a little boy's -- with a little boy's mind in a lot of different ways. open l-38, please. >> once in prison, steven parker, whose friends call him the worm, became more violent. >> stay away from those idiots. we don't want him to have fun with the cameras. >> he slit one inmate's jugular vein with a box cutter and nearly strangled another to death. >> this happened several times in prison, where i've stabbed and cut inmates and strangled inmates. >> worm! >> i just snap and i go crazy. i turn murderous and dangerous. i'm not nervous at all. it's like i'm in commando mode or something. and i'm very deadly with it too. it was one night, about 10:00, a guy come in, tried to take my cigarettes from me. he came in and snatched them off the bed and he called me a bitch.

i let that brew on me for a while. i thought about it all night. about 2:00 in the morning, i went and stabbed him 18 times. >> deputy warden patterson, along with the other senior staff members, make their weekly rounds in administrative segregation. >> this is a place of confinement for those men that need to be down here, be isolated from contact with the general population because their behavior, their disciplinary problems, or the fact they just simply can't live in living. >> the staff reviews each inmate's housing status to determine who's ready to return to general population. >> what would it take for me to get a transfer? >> what would it take for you to get a transfer? if you go anywhere, it will be maximum assignment. okay? we just completed our weekly

segregation review board and now we would go into our deliberations about the status of the men being incarcerated down there. steven parker. he needs to stay where he is. he is a dangerous man. we did recently find a weapon in his cell. he will do good and he will tell you he will do good and his behavior is good right now, but not so long ago, he came out and assaulted an officer. he's a big man, he's hard to control, he's a dangerous man and he is appropriately assigned in that segregation cell at this point. >> he is dangerous. as far as my vote, i don't think he'd ever need to be in a population setting. >> segregation is a place of confinement for men who you must separate from the general population. and steven parker is one of

those guys who must be separated. we must keep him controlled at all times. >> i guess i'm going to go crazy. i don't know. i guess i'm going to spend the rest of my life in prison and keep doing the same things i've been doing. i don't know what else to do. until somebody kills me, i guess. i don't know. next on "lockup: extended stay" -- >> life on death row was a very traumatic experience. death was definitely next. >> eight years on death row can make any inmate question his sanity. >> i feel confused, went through a mental stage where i likened to lose my mind. and hearing everything from our marketing partners, the media and millions of fans on social media can be a challenge. that's why we partnered with hp to build the new nascar fan and media engagement center. hp's technology helps us turn millions of tweets, posts and stories into real-time business insights

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it's been one week since terry moore stabbed another inmate over a pair of sneakers.

he said a mixture of fear and anger fueled his attack. >> if you take something like shoes, they took shoes, i know who it is. the other guys in the block, they know i know. so if i don't deal with it, then that's a weak spot on my point. so they can go, okay, he's weak and we can steal the rest of his stuff and that's what was coming next eventually. it's not my first stab, not the first time i've had stuff stolen and probably won't be the last time. it's what has to be done. >> since he's serving life without parole, it's unlikely he'll receive any additional time. the victim of the stabbing is recovering, but remains in ad-seg until the warden feels he's ready to return to general population. with no parole date in sight, terry moore feels he has nothing to lose and so breaking the rules isn't much of a deterrent for him. but hope is not lost for all inmates serving life without parole. >> what did you do with the sunglasses? >> i put in drops.

>> what kind of drops? >> eye doctor. the eye doctor gave them to me. >> the culture has changed because i think people have more hope. what coincided was a couple laws that changed. some of our life without parole inmates, when you serve life without parole and all your crimes were as a habitual offender, they were all nonviolent, then you have an opportunity to go back before the judge and have your sentence overturned. some of the life parole guys are violent or have a no-care attitude, they really have hope they will get their case overturned and they'll have one more chance to go back outside. >> and the inmates serving life without parole aren't the only ones getting the second chance. mitch rutledge was on death row before his sentence was overturned. >> came in 1981. june 17 i came to death row. i did approximately a little over a year on death row. came off 1989. reversal from the alabama supreme court find the d.a. said there's no such thing as life without parole and gave me a new sentencing hearing.

the jury recommended life without parole. the jurors went along with it. i'm guilty. there was a man, he was shot and robbed. >> by? >> by me. >> on december 23rd, 1980, rutledge and two friends carjacked a van from a 28-year-old man. after robbing him, rutledge then shot the man five times, killing him instantly. the victim's wallet contained $20. when rutledge arrived on death row at 22, the threat of execution pushed him to the edge. >> life on death row, to me, was a very traumatic experience. i stayed in the cell 23 hours a day. i felt lost, confused, devastated. and knowing that you're going to die, that they sent you there to die, it have an even more vicious effect on your mentality and that death was definitely

next. i went through a mental stage where i like lost my mind. >> since coming off death row, mitch rutledge has taught himself to read and write and earned his ged. now he expresses himself through his writing. >> i consider myself a poet. but i wrote this because at this particular time, it was a friend of mine being executed, and i was deeply wounded by that. and i was deeply touched. "tonight, death has been called forward once again from the life it resides in to carry out the wishes of the state of alabama in the execution of another death row inmate. death all smiles tonight. it didn't have to hunt man down. it didn't have to catch man by surprise from his fatal gunshot, a stab, or while he lie in a deep sleep.

no, tonight death is the hero. a feast is being held in his honor. everything we all feel is being worshipped tonight. the evil is the evil man do." >> everybody inside. everybody inside. >> jeremiah jackson called death row home for ten years, but he's just caught a major break. >> today, lieutenant came to my door. he told me, jackson, call your lawyer. i just said a little prayer and i called my lawyer. he said, yeah, he is. he said congratulations. i'm off death row. i said praise the lord.

my i.q. was in the range of 69 to 72. >> although he's no longer a condemned man and is now serving life without parole, the reality is jackson committed a violent crime. >> at the age of 19, a robbery occurred on april the 15, 1996, rob and murder. and a female victim got killed in the process. i wish i could change things, but i can't. >> as part of standard procedure, jackson is spending 90 days in ad-seg to ensure a smooth transition into general population. >> they got me in ad-seg now. you're like -- i really had the best night of sleep i've had in a long time. i feel that i did a crime, i'm paying my price for it. i do believe it.

if my life, my story, can help this, i feel due to the lord, you know, made a point through me. coming up on "lockup: extended stay" -- >> open l-23. >> jeremiah jackson is finally released from ad-seg. >> nice time for a new journey to start. >> and later -- >> get you a hamburger? >> no. i refuse to take the shot. >> the warden's patience is put to the test. >> i don't need no shirt. has it's ups and downs. seasonal... doesn't begin to describe it. my cashflow can literally change with the weather. anything that gives me some breathing room

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ics, i had two j-3s. >> jeremiah jackson, who's recently come off death row, has fulfilled his required 90 days in ad-seg. >> are you ready? open l-23. >> and he is allowed to join general population for the first time since his sentence in 1997. >> i be blessed, man. all right. now time for a new journey to start. >> top of the hill. >> what's up, man? >> what's up. >> i'm going to population. yeah. what's up?

>> jackson passes through the death row corridor and says good-bye to his old friends for the last time. >> hi, gus. >> officer austin escorts jackson to get his dorm bed assignment and arm band. >> you have to keep this on at all times. if you get caught without it, you could get disciplinary action. all right. >> good to go? >> you're good to go. >> what's up, pee-wee? how ya doing? where is bed 74 at? >> third bed down. >> when i had left seg, i had to go back through row. it was kind of bittersweet. because i know them people back there. i can't stop telling them how much i'm going to miss them. >> while on ad-seg and death

row, jackson was only allowed one hour outside per day where he was confined to a small cage. >> hey, how you been outside? >> but now, for the first time in years, he's able to roam the big open space of the general population yard. >> i feel like a bird, free. >> all right. let's see it. lettuce and tomato? hey, how are you doing? >> fine. >> as part of his effort to turn the culture of holman around, warden culliver starts by honoring the staff. >> only at holman. >> to thank his hard-working crew, the warden is hosting a lunch where he serves them. >> appreciate you, tony. >> i'm waiting on a hamburger. they won't feed me a hamburger. >> what are we doing, david? >> employee appreciation day along with an open house. >> we try to do it once or twice a year, basically give the employees some downtime and feed them lunch. just a way to try to give back,

say "we appreciate what you do, the hard work you do." we had a nice show for open house here. >> this is not burger king, as you can see, but i'll still have it my way. >> what's going on? >> the break from the prison routine is short-lived. an inmate is refusing to take his required medication. >> take the shot, i'll get you a hamburger or sausage. >> you need to come on, just get the shot. get it over with. >> get you an ice cream cone. you don't like ice cream? >> i like ice cream. >> take the shot, i'll get you an ice cream, hot dog. before i leave here today, you're going to take the shot. you've got to take the shot. i don't know why today you feel like you don't want this shot but you have to take it. you can make it hard or you can make it easy. you're still going to have to take it. i don't have no choice. >> ain't going to do nothing but resist. >> you're a big man.

>> i'm not going to take the shot. >> are you going to fight me? or passive resistance? >> i'm not going to punch nobody. >> give it to you and it's over. how about it? >> i don't need no shot. >> i have to give you one because the doctors say you need the shot. it's not my decision. >> i don't need no shot. >> sit down. be still. >> be still so it won't hurt. >> be still. don't stick him yet. don't stick him yet. lay down here. lay down. lay down. it will only take but a minute. >> come in, mike. put it right there. >> sit you back up now, okay? are you going to be all right? >> yes.

>> all right. watch him and make sure -- he'll probably go down and lay down and go to sleep. make sure he doesn't go down and start messing with nobody. we're going to leave you alone, all right? don't be mad with us. >> i ain't mad. >> all right. >> the sign of change in holman is evident in the way culliver handles every situation in hopes of preventing the violent past of the institution from returning. >> he says he's not mad, but he's mad right now. he'll be all right. he may not talk to me for a few days but he'll be all right. >> he'll want that ice cream tomorrow. >> yeah. >> he's been asking about that ice cream. >> i appreciate that. >> every day, my shifts change, we get out, nobody gets injured or hurt, then that's another day that we actually won.

right now we're going to call the sergeant, let them know what's going on. and there's urine coming up the floor. >> recently sentenced to prison, a troubled, young inmate attempts to make a final impression on staff. >> why can't you act like you have some sense? >> another inmate acts out in order to achieve a very different goal. >> i'd rather be someone for myself where i can f o