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due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. america's prisons, dangerous, often deadly. there are 2 million people doing time. every day is a battle to survive and to maintain order. >> down on your feet! down! >> located in the deep south, holman correctional facility, where most are serving life sentences. we spent months documenting life on the inside, where the prisoners have nothing but time and nothing to lose. this is "lockup: holman extended stay."
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>> the holman correctional relations are strained. >> if she wants to call it off, tell me. tell me something. >> the walls within are often dangerous ou dangerous. >> i cannot stop these guys from coming after you. you know regardless somebody's going to make a play for you. >> the holman fast in alabama is home to close to 1,000 inmates, all of whom categorized by their behavior. the best behaved homed in the
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coveted dorm. those who behave badly are sent to the segregation unit. >> an area where we have roughly 200 inmates. all are individually celled and all here because they broke an infraction here in prison. >> human contact in segregation is extremely limited and interaction with others is at a minimum. this can take its toll on an inmate emotionally and physically. >> you can have inmates there a long time and build up hostilities. it's a highly explosive area. >> i did not do what they said i did! [ bleep ] -- [ bleep ] -- [ bleep ], [ bleep ]! it's not fair! >> another typical day. that's part of it. >> these officers work here and
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on a daily basis deal with these inmates and you build up a relationship with these inmates. and some are good, some are not so good. >> most people say when i started i wouldn't make it. i had a point to prove and i proved it. said i wouldn't make sergeant and if i did, wouldn't be a good sergeant, i like to say i made another point and i'm proving it. >> everything about it is a challenge. it's not a normal job where you can learn something and do you it. nothing's ever the same. i mean, you make a decision today for one incident, tomorrow maybe the same incident, but you have to make a different
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decision. >> you all want to go home, huh? >> sergeant banks has to deal with many problematic inmates. >> put me in my shell nobody's going [ bleep ] over my head, man! >> when i deal with jamie bell i deal with his issue only. bobby gilbert, i don't have any problems with. i just know the problems that other people have. >> there are inmates who give awe problem? >> yes. i would say terrence mosley. >> come look at it. come look at it. >> you ain't got nothing to see. >> he's obsessed with me. he would do anything for me. >> didn't you get in trouble all weekend? >> he likes to masturbate all
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the time. >> didn't you show yourself to the officer? they ain't going to let you stand there and expose yourself. >> i exposed myself -- >> don't expose yourself as it is. either way, it's wrong. why you keep doing that? >> no, there ain't. >> going to keep hold of that. >> i still in -- i show it to you. >> when a man, he don't want to see another man [ bleep ]. that's like, worst form of disrespect, you ask me. >> you ain't got nothing to see. >> now, with a female, if it's a female that excites me sexually you know what i'm saying? then i tend to expose myself to them. >> she said i was not to be in the area i was in right now. >> a lot of people ran over here. they ain't against homosexual
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activities right here. they cool with a lot of people, i ain't going to participate. they say wa they want to say. i'm going to continue masturbating. it's just a thing i got for women. you know what i'm saying? okay. i got to go through all this here just because i like women. man, i got to go through it. coming up next, on "lockup: extended stay" a soured relationship lands this inmate in prison. >> my ex-husband, my deceased husband, he was standing there, just standing. >> and later, terrence mosley reaches the breaking point. >> no business at my [ bleep ]. but tracking all the action and hearing everything from our marketing partners, the media and millions of fans on social media can be a challenge. that's why we partnered with hp to build the new nascar fan and media engagement center. hp's technology helps us turn millions of tweets,
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those at the correction facility violating the rules are brought into a hearing to determine thin punishment. >> correctional officer michael, possession of contraband. violations as follow, inmate did have in your possession two set of dice. one red, one white and one tube of lipstick. do you wish to plead guilty or not guilty? >> guilty. >> sign that. right there. release is pending review board, right? >> yes, sir. >> take you back to your cell. 30 days loss of privileges. >> what was the thing about the
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lipstick? tell me the problem. >> well, the thing of the dice is, you go down there and get to gambling, and then they'll lose something they don't have to give back. the lipstick comes to the homosexual activity that goes on within the facility. we try to keep that down to as little as we can keep it down to. >> why? >> it causing them to -- hover over the homosexuals. mostly fighting over car, dice, fight over a homosexual relationship. >> i have a complex about being called gay, or homosexual. okay. i know that i was born a male. i know that, that i do know, but i live as a woman. i see myself as a woman. i like to be respected and dressed as a woman.
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>> my ex-husband, my deceased husband, he was very overprotective. he just -- consisted beating on me, beating me. i'd manipulate to get away from him. ran to the kitchen. they had this knife set. the biggest handle that i seen, i grabbed it, and -- ran outside. he was standing there. i just stabbed him. he fell -- i stabbed him again. they grabbed me, and i was covered in blood. they called the police. i still had the knife in my hand. they came, they retrieved the knife and -- ishs handcuff immediate.
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i've been locked up ever since. >> once locked up, marcus was quick to development prison romances, and is currently on her third prison marriage, i see him as a man, a straight man. that's how i feel. you know? he's a man. he's my husband. i'm a woman. i'm his wife. ooh, let me wrap my hair down. >> we exchanged vows. he opened his heart to me. i opened my heart to him and we vowed to be best friends. for life. >> marcus' husband is new to prison relationships and has asked that his identity not be revealed. >> i have a son that's 2 year ares old that i feel like wouldn't understand the situation right now. that's the only reason that my identity is hidden.
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i never thought in a million years i'd be in a relationship like this. in prison, it seems like she's the woman, i'm the man, and we're just in relationship. she's gay, and that's it. now, on my side, i'm gay, she's gay. you know. i ain't never -- i still haven't been -- i still haven't been able to accept that. >> i'm his first. i'm his first prison wife. and i can understand why he's a little shaky about it. you know what i'm saying? >> marcus is an ad seg for getting into a fight. while there, not allowed to communicate with her husband. >> the hardest thing about lockup, not able to sit, talk with him. he's my everything. he's my everything. >> you can say anything what
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would that be? >> i would let her know that i love her, i miss her. need her. i'm waiting on her. >> in order to get out of adseg, marcus must be put on a release list. one of those that can put her on the list is deputy warden patterson. >> just let me out of this lockup to be with my best friend. >> what is it, martin? >> i'll take the probation. >> june the 14th you'll have your 90 days. and at that point, we can possibly consider you for population, if you don't have an enemy situation. do you have an enemy situation? >> no, sir. you know i don't have an enemy situation. >> lem see your hands. how about them -- cut them
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nails. >> yes, sir. >> i'll be so glad when they let me out of this locker, and i'm going to give him the best life you can imagine. you want to be interviewed? >> coming up -- >> marcus pleads with the warden to be let out of adseg. >> why should u let you out? >> please. i want -- >> i ain't convinced right now. from what happened so we could be a better, safer energy company. i can tell you - safety is at the heart of everything we do. we've added cutting-edge technology, like a new deepwater well cap and a state-of-the-art monitoring center, where experts watch over all drilling activity twenty-four-seven. and we're sharing what we've learned, so we can all produce energy more safely. our commitment has never been stronger. accomplishing even little things can become major victories. i'm phil mickelson, pro golfer.
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have conversations with their friends. alan clark has recently been transferred to holman and hasn't formed friendships with the inmates there but he does have a relationship with someone on the outside. >> for 15 years i didn't have anybody to come see me or write me or anything like this, and in came [ bleep ]. she is -- she's a darling. you know? she's -- she's the love of my life. >> i miss her something terrible. y just wouldn't believe. i really miss her. last year in september i became real sick and i had been sick all ta day. when i got to the infirmary they took my blood pressure around found it was real, real low, and they rushed me to the emergency room, but i met a nurse there,
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and when she walked in to the room and we made eye contact, i knew, you know, that she was going to be my girl. you know? when we started seeing each other, i said, i've got life without parole. i may not ever get out, and she told me, she says, you let me worry about that. finally, you know, one day on the visiting yard up here, you know, when she come to see me, i got down on my knee and i asked her, will you marry me? and she says, yes. so i said, okay. then i'll put in a request for marriage. and -- so i did. and as it stands right now, at last count, the chaplain said that i was ninth in line. >> until his wedding day, alan
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must rely on letters to communicate with his fiancee. before he opens his mouth it must undergo a screening process. >> good morning. mail room. >> if it doesn't have dorm numbers, ais number, they can't have it. if it doesn't have a name on the return address, they can't have it. if it doesn't have a return address at all, they can't have it. they're not allowed to have any kind of nude pictures. pictures that are sexually explicit. that's not allowed. when i was going through the mail, i was looking at the envelope, and i noticed it was like a big sticker. so i said, i've never seen one of those. looks kind of weird. i took the letter opener and peeled it up, and when i did, nude picture. i was like, okay. well -- that's rejected. at first i was, like -- okay.
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the nudity pictures really don't bother me. i'm used to it. it's like a normal routine. i go through it look at it. okay. reject it. we did have one woman for three weeks in a row. she purposely hid her nude pictures behind cards. she would, like, open them up on theed in, try to glue them back down. paste them behind other pictures of, like, her children. that's a great one. i loved that one. so she kept doing that. i meanance it was every day i was opening them. i took them to the warden and he banned her from corresponding for 90 dwith him and she has to write for permission to start writing him and he took away her visitation rights with him. when it goes to that extreme mesh that's when they pretty much learn i can't do this, can't get it by. they leave it alone and don't do it anymore.
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>> in the comp room, we know you're arrival. >> meanwhile, marcus thomas has been writing the warden and he's granted him a meeting. he hopes to be released to general population and reunited with her husband. >> he's maintaining. i mean, it's hard for him. he wants me out there with him so bad. just as bad as i need to be out there with him. we've been with each other back and forth, but, really, we just haven't had enough communication with each other. so -- really don't know, when i'm not there with him. i don't know. [ crying ] >> what's wrong with you? >> they want to do an interview with me, and -- >> you don't want to be interviewed? >> next question.
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>> what question did they ask you? >> have i seen [ bleep ]. >> that caused you to cry? >> because it hurt me. >> they asked if you could see [ bleep ], that hurt you? [ cryi ining ] [ bleep ] it hurt. >> you're going to win aacademy award with -- stop crying. i don't want to hear you crying. i'm going to go back and ain't going to talk to you about this. they want me to talk to you about being released i'm going going to listen to you cry about some other damn man. >> i'm sorry. i'm sorry. >> the last time, how long you stay? three, four months. both times in population you caught yourself being with one individual. yes or no? >> uh-huh. >> even though you call yourself
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being with one individual, do you not have people coming after you all of the time? yes or no? just yes or no? >> no. well -- yes. >> whether you say your problems, they're your problems or not i cannot stop these guys from coming after you, and you know that regardless, somebody's going to make a play for you. so why should i turn you out to pop? >> please, give knee a chance. >> tell me why. i don't want to beg me. one good reason why i should turn you out to pop? >> i've made a change. i'm not coming back to lockup. i promise, i'm not coming back. please. just let me show you. >> i'll think about it. >> i ain't convinced right now. and the reason i'm not convinced is in the past, your past tells me if you go to jail population, you've got about 60 to 90 days in population and there will be problems. that's what history tells me.
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>> that's wrong this time. i bet you're wrong. >> listen -- >> it's just unfair. unfair. coming up, terrence mosley gets written up again, but this time it's not for indecent exposure. >> [ bleep ] -- i said -- [ bleep ] -- [ bleep ]. >> and alan clark's fee ansee m maybe getting cold feet i. asked if she would like to be married. so now i can help make this a great block party. ♪ [ male announcer ] advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function.
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nairobi, kenya, an attack. 150 injured. no americans among the dead, four hurt. the somali terror group al shabaab claimed responsibility. speaking to the congressional black caucus saturday evening, president obama urged lawmakers to go back at it and push gun control legislation through. first, back to "lockup." due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. i probably got about 100 hours on the tattoos. i got good side and a bad side. i got jesus with angels got the devil on this side. freddy krueger, medusa. stuff like that. that's montana, scarface and two .45s in a shoulder hoster
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and this means, i same, saw, conquered and left. i want to go on and get the rest of my chest covered and have a whole shirt. whenever i get out i'll work on the rest of it. our crew went to check up on terrence mosley. an inmate repeatedly exposing himself to officers. we weren't prepared for what happened next. >> i done told y'all to stay away from my cell. >> you wanted to say something. >> i said i wanted [ bleep ] [ bleep ] [ bleep ]. >> out of my cell. what's wrong with you? >> all right. let's go. >> the reason he did this is because on particular day, the sergeant and myself were walking and he was masturbating and i had to use force with my baton.
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i hit his arm and likely broke his arm. he told me then he was going to get me. so on this particular day we was feeding terrence mosley and he threw a tray in my face. i guess that day he got me. >> what started as an obsession with sergeant bennings has escalated into a grudge match between terrence mosley and officer montgomery. >> i don't know what to do about terrence mosley. he's been a problem and got into it with two officers on third shift. same way he did with you today. i know you had a problem with him before. >> before. >> i don't know what the solution is. pull that individual out, if we can find any way to get him complying with the rules and quit being such a troublemaker. this didn't seem to have an affect on him. the only two we really got. we can roll the door and go in and whip him, past that. we don't do that stuff anymore. we have to try to find other
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ways to get him into compliance. >> like you said, light him up. >> and hope eventually he'll come around and do different. i really don't see a hope for it right now. >> while officers sought to change his behavior for the best, another inmate's future may have taken a turn for the worse. >> alan clark's in lockup. an inmate we'll go see, and he didn't know whether his fiancee was going to marry him or not. he was under the impress they were okay but apparently she hadn't returned any letters when he had written her. apparently something wrong and he had me call her to find out if they still wanted to get married. >> alan, you got a second, you know what this is about? have you had an opportunity to talk to [ bleep ]. >> no, i haven't. i haven't even heard from you. >> remember you told me to give her a call concerning you guys getting married, and all that
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type of stuff. well, i had called her, and when talking to her, she sounded pretty upset. and i had asked her if she was getting married. she says, married? i said, yeah. alan's been wanting to get married for a while, i understand it. i still want to see if you guys might get married, and she said are in emphatic terms, absolutely not. so i don't know -- how all that sits. >> ah. >> apparently she's upset. did you know she didn't want to get married, or -- >> yes. she's the one that asked me. you know what i'm saying? she told me to go ahead and put in the application for the marriage. and that's the reason why i come to you and asked you, you know, about -- going about getting married. >> what do you think changed her mind? >> i have no idea. >> she's -- noticeably upset.
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>> yeah. yeah. >> probably need to straighten that up. miscommunication might have taken place. >> yeah. definitely. all right. >> okay. see ya later. >> apparently she's -- she's mad at me for some reason. i don't know. i don't know why she's mad at me. this is news to me. you know? i mean, se -- she's the one that asked me to get the ball rolling on getting the marriage going. you know? and i don't know what's happened. coming up, terrence mosley's problems forces the warden to take matters into his own hands. >> we came to the agreement, you keep your nose clean, then i cut you loose. >> you can do that.
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could be, the one i love, just me and him away. away from all of this -- nonsense. you know? i just pray that he remains strong until i get there. >> while marcus struggles with life in adseg, her shus struggling with whether this will succeed as a long-term relationship. >> i'm having a lot of mixed feelings. five, six months from now, who knows. we may be in different cribs. marriages, and go on that, and she will always have to have a man supporting her. you know what i'm saying? and, you know, that -- that mentally if we separate, see how to be with another man. wev been in a relationship two years, a couple of months, but i really can't say, you know, like i said, any time we can be, go
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our separate ways. >> alan clark is being moved to another cell in adseg. it's been nearly two weeks since the chaplain told him that his fiancee seems to have moved on. >> any communication from her? >> not as yet. i wrote her two letters. i asked her in the letter, you know, if she would write me and let me know what is really going on, you know. if she wants to call it off, then, you know, that's fine, you know? but tell me, you know. don't -- you know, let me know something. i don't really know what's going on. >> maintaining relationships can be difficult, but just getting in to them can prove to be dangerous.
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inmate marion dent has been sent to the hospital for hitting on the wrong man. >> i had it in my mind i wasn't going to live -- wasn't going back to the street no more. might as well get me a friend. then i started messing with homosexuals and things because they would take the place of a female. >> marion attempts at making partners hasn't always gone according to plan. >> i heard he's often into homosexual activity, so i wanted to talk to him about that. you know what i'm saying? the man took one blow, and knocked me out. and then -- i -- in an instant, in one cell, i got stabbed up down there. oh, yes. another inmate hit me in the head with a lock, that when the fella hit me in the head with the lock and i got stabbed, once
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>> others have problems finding directions. warden scheduled a meeting with terrence mosley to confront him on his most recent incident. >> what's wrong with you? >> come on. >> what's your problem? >> ain't got no problem. >> i got to get your attention one way or another. i can't do nothing about that with the thought process. >> i can't let you -- how i'm going to let you out of lockup? got me locked um. >> no, no, no. >> that's -- >> no, no. you have to prove that to me. see, if you had been locked up for 90 and really wanted to go back to pop, you would have came down, did your time. straighten all that out and you'd be going back to pop. you've seen that happen before's that's how we tame to the agreement if you can keep your nose clean, then i cut you loose. but you couldn't do that. >> i slipped. >> okay.
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>> what's the consequence for slipping? >> the consequence for slipping. i know what it is. >> i'm saying -- i'm taking responsibility for what i did. >> and i'm taking responsibility for what you did, too, and this is what you have to do, though, terrence. before we can talk about the deal before you slipped you've got to do these 14 days and still get disciplinary all that other stuff for that. >> i'm talking about, seriously now, i ain't trying to manipulate the system. it i do these 14 day, the owned thing i'm asking for now, can i get a five-minute phone call to my mother. five minutes. >> can i talk to her first? >> you call her, talk to her. then i talk to her. >> deal. >> all right. >> all right. anything else? >> yeah. i'd like to apologize to her. right? >> okay. >> do it. >> i apologize for the way i behaved yesterday.
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>> you're ready. just have to wait. sometimes it works. sometimes it don't. coming up, desperate to get out of adseg, marcus becomes bold. >> hard on me because i'm a homosexual. the only way you're going to know who's telling the truth, me or you, is you're going to have to let me out and let me show you. from what happened so we could be a better, safer energy company. i can tell you - safety is at the heart of everything we do. we've added cutting-edge technology, like a new deepwater well cap and a state-of-the-art monitoring center, where experts watch over all drilling activity twenty-four-seven. and we're sharing what we've learned, so we can all produce energy more safely. our commitment has never been stronger.
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i got good news! >> what's going on? >> recommended me for release this morning. warden said, came around, recommended my release. on this elevator, using it myself! >> after nearly 17 months of waiting in adseg, marcus thomas is meeting with captain kraft to discuss a release to general population. >> i can just feel myself getting closer to my husband. >> marcus is optimistic her name is finally on the release list this time. >> you asked for another, without a -- i put you on my list for you to get out of seg, is that what you're talking about. >> yes, sir. >> that's why. why i don't have you on that list. when you first got here we turned you out into pop lapgs alapgs -- population and they met you.
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two, three different guys, these guys want to go to fighting over marcus. i believe there's going to be problems. >> ain't going to be a problem. >> the last two times you were down there, there was problems. >> therapy so horny because i'm a homosexual. i've only been involved in two minor disputes. no one never got hurt, and i really need to get back to population. i really do. i promise you, i am not coming back to the jail. i've got it together. i've got it all together. >> you can tell me you've got it all together, but you can't tell me what [ bleep ] is going to do. >> yes, i can. i can tell you. yes, i can. i know him more than he know himself. he's not going to get into anything. >> y'all be down the hall -- >> the only way you're going to know who's telling the truth, me or you, let me out and let me show you. >> true. i don't know if i want to take
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that chance. there's a lot of new guys down that hall. you hit that hallway down there, there's going to be one of them, probably saying, i've got to have him. i'm going to have him. i don't want somebody down there with knives fighting. >> ain't nobody's -- that's not going to happen. it's not, never been that serious. >> you promise plea? >> yes, i can. >> you can't promise me that. >> yes, i can. >> take all this you said into consideration, but if i find out that you have caused problems down there, or [ bleep ] about somebody, about you. i'll lock you back up. >> i accept it. i will accept that very restrict probation. >> all right. let me think about it then. i'm get with the warden and see if he'll adegree with it also. >> i appreciate that. thank you, captain kraft. >> you're welcome. ♪ i feel a lot better. i feel a lot relieved. going to take it into consideration. just didn't say no, at least. if he had said no i would have
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broke down, come on. take me back. i'm ready to get to my husband. well -- back to my hot little cell. uh-huh, ha, ha, ha. oh! [ laughter ] >> hey -- it's not over. >> you leave my house alone! >> while marcus thomas may find our tenacity can reward her, terrence mosley is about to be rewarded for his good behavior over the past two weeks. >> all your mom today. that's part of the thing. >> i did so -- >> really, i'm doing you a favor. on one hand. >> warden has been keeping terrence' mother aware of his behavioral problems. he hopes she can finally talk sense into him and trigger a permanent change.
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>> may i speak with mrs. -- hello? how you doing? >> i'm trying to. i've been trying to, right? listen, i just got that problem. got that problem. it's a problem. >> yes, ma'am? we appreciate it. we've got a contract. i got a contract with him if he were go until november 15th without getting a disciplinary we're going to try him in general population again. but, you know, that's something he's got to work on. and -- i don't know. we may make a couple of months. he continues to do well i'll let him call you in a couple of months. yes, ma'am. maybe we need to get him a bible and just let him read the bible. yes, ma'am. thank you.
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>> you all right? >> i need a transfer. >> you need a transfer? so you'd rather have a transfer than to go down into population? >> ain't going to make it, man. ain't going to make it six months. >> you know you ain't going to make it? >> i got a [ bleep ], tell me, man. i ain't going to make it. >> i think he's touched right now. i think five hours from now, this time tomorrow, i think he'll refer back to his mother. i think he realizes that she's not truly well. but i don't have a problem having him transferred out. that's not going to help him. he's actually closer to his mom here than at any other max facility we have. so -- i don't know. he's got to do it.
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♪ after meeting with the warden, capital kraft will deliver the final decision to marcus as to whether she will get out of ad seg. >> talk to marcus and explain to him, the move, and just ride him out. >> here you go. how you doing this morning? >> all right. >> good. >> now, listen, i sat down and talked to the warden about the contract, about you coming out to population. he's agreed to let me let you out you sign this contract. one catch, the warden is about to turn you out right now. he wants to wait, trn you out late summer, early fall. we're going to do it, it's going to be then. is that agreeable? >> yeah. >> all right.
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