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why did you hit an officer? >> plead the fifth. >> we have now didn't tasked to go in that dorm and restore order. >> the jail responds with force after an officer is assaulted, and inmates attempt escape. >> how many times did you shoot him? >> ten, 12 times, you know, it is horrifying. it's very traumatic. >> an 18-year-old shoots her father to death. and found a surrogate mother on the inside. >> when she walks in, she was scared, shaken, i took care of her, showed her the ropes. >> you're just going to have to take my word for it. >> somebody has threatened to flood the walk. >> another inmate, not normally

known for trouble, issues a vile threat. >> a cup of urine right there. >> and two other inmates provide a cautionary tale for fathers and sons everywhere. >> i was out when you were seven. >> you called another man daddy so who's supposed to be getting mad? in downtown louisville, kentucky, two adjoining victims serve as the criminal justice center, housing both the courts and the louisville department of corrections jail. on any xwich day, about 2,300 men and women are incarcerated

here. most have only been accused of crimes and are awaiting resolution of their accusations. it can be a tense time. >> here in this facility you're looking at a couple of officer assaults a month. that is jail-wide. you try to train your people to be prepared to deal with any type of situation that comes up. any day you come to work, you put yourself at risk. >> today is one of those times. >> hamill got hurt. >> by who? >> by the inmate. they're putting the chair down now. >> all united, j-4 is on lockdown until further notice. no movement in that area unless authorized. >> we have had an officer get assaulted up on the fourth floor. they had the inmate under control and they're placing him in the restraint chair. >> officers use pepper spray to

secure him, he will remain strapped into the restraint chair for up to two hours until officers feel it is safe to return him to his cell. >> damn it. it's the second assault in a week on that floor. >> inmate to officer. >> that dorm has a lot of young and aggressive inmates. >> you all right? >> yeah. i'm good. i was putting two guys in there, inmates steps out and cold cocks me. he hit me right here. you can see the bruise. the jaw is sore but good now. my knee and other than that i'm fine. >> what is going on with you and the officer? >> nothing. >> well, why did you hit an officer? we just walked through the dorm. and everything seemed to be going fine and then my officers go into the dorm and then you hit one. i'm trying to figure out why.

>> plead the fifth. >> my other eye. >> which one? >> this left one. >> i can see you're injured. >> it's part of the job. >> lock it. >> during the assault, several inmates in white storm try to rush the door, which staff view as an escape attempt. >> the dorm on camera was observed, several of them covering their faces, picking up what could be a weapon possibly. so we have activated the team. >> all right. >> sort is the special operations response team. >> let's do it. >> we have now been tasked to go in that dorm and restore order. >> get the armory ready. >> wait for the phone call. >> got it. >> every situation is different. the biggest concerns and threats right now is we don't know who was involved, we don't know what they have. we don't know if this was planned. there's just too many unknowns. so we were going to use whatever manpower we have, this has to be done fast and safe.

the team will suit up in the full suit, body armor, vest. we'll take the pepper launcher, the mk-9 oc container for crowd control. we are going to take flexi cuffs for the number of them. taser shield. >> control room cameras. >> because of the potential to lose the floor, it is a very dangerous situation. >> stand by. >> what we're going to do is go in, identify who we can from the dvr. >> okay. >> we're going to go in. order them all on the ground, anybody that doesn't want to comply with the orders we know that that is where our attention needs to be focused at. >> due to safety concerns, the s.o.r.t. team would not permit us to enter the dorm, but we were able to shoot the control

room monitors as it took place. >> they're going in right now. flexi cuffing the inmates on the ground. they're searching them individually and then place them on the floor until they stay in that area until they've completed their search of the dorm. >> with the dorm secured, our crew is allowed back inside. >> searched and now searching for weapons and contraband to make sure we have people looking at the dvr to identify the main perpetrators. >> once they shake down the dorm and identify the ringleaders of the incident and be moved to single cells. they will not be returning to that dorm. >> this ain't right. >> taking -- >> [ bleep ] up man. see how they got us laid out in -- man. >> [ bleep ] ain't right for real. >> [ bleep ] these. that's how i feel. >> these inmates are obviously

still agitated but as of right now everything has gone the way we have planned it. >> officers remove a number of inmates they suspect are those who rushed the door and isolate them in single person cells in the administrative crew night for further questioning. the inmates remaining in the dorm are placed on 24-hour lockdown. among them is brian edmonds sr. >> right now my life is kind of off track. you know what i'm saying? i just had a rough life, the way i'm 36 years of living. i was doing good in school. i played basketball, as and bs, and chose the wrong route. this is where it landed me. >> mr. brian edmond sr., let me look at his charges. sodomy first.

persistent felony offender one. he was sentenced to 30 years. >> having been sentenced, edmonds now awaits transfer to prison, a place he is familiar with. he has been there on three separate occasions serving a total of 14 years. >> tired of being in this jail. can't wait to get away from here. go to my next phase so i can get ready, get my appeal done. >> although no stranger to prison, he does find himself in unusual circumstances here. housed in a cell on another floor at the jail is his 18-year-old son, brian edmonds jr. who's been charged with two counts of murder. he has pled not guilty. >> we ain't got no close relationship because i've been locked up off and on so i've never been there through him growing up. he knows i love him, he loves me. but we ain't really had no father and son relationship. it was more like a friendship.

and if they was to convict him of it, the blame would be on me because i ain't never been there. you know what i'm saying? i would take his charge if they were to let me. i would do his time because i don't want to see him go through nothing like this. coming up -- >> so then you were following in your father's foot steps? >> i don't even know him to follow his footsteps. i get offended when people say that. >> brian edwards, jr. has words for his father. >> nothing he can do to change my circumstance but stay out of my face. >> and a 18-year-old takes her father. >> i remember grabbing a gun and just pointed it at -- just aimed it right at his head.

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at the louisville metro department of corrections jail, every staff person is aware that violence can break out any time. and sometimes it will be directed at them.

the latest assault occurred when markel white punched an officer as he entered white's housing unit. >> he basically sucker punched an officer as he came in the door, which resulted in other disturbances in the dorm. >> white, who is currently in jail awaiting for trial for murder, has been put in a segregation cell and put on sort status, the highest destination for a cell. he will be locked up for now, 23 hours a day, lose all of his privileges and have little more to do than exercise or sleep. >> what did you do to the officer hamilton? >> i hit him. i hit him. i don't know. at the end of the day i came out [ bleep ] up. mace. choked out. you know? some chair -- what's that chair

called? >> restraint chair. >> restraint chair. >> let me talk to you real quick. all right? what is going on, white? i want to talk to you a little bit about what happened last night. get your side. >> i just got fed up. >> so what are you feeling like today? >> i'm feeling good. >> you know your discipline officer will see you in a couple of days. and because of that, i'll be by to see you and we'll be reviewing you depending on your actions every two or three weeks for s.o.r.t. status, all right? well, i'll be talking to you. >> mcgovern. >> white says he lashed out at the officer because he felt disrespected. >> i hate getting handled like a little boy. and i hate being disrespected. >> how do you feel you were disrespected? >> for them to just talk to me any kind of way.

you know? but i showed them the utmost respect. i talk to them in a mannerable way, and they don't talk back mannerible. it is just a lot of little things and i just got fed up with it. >> could you ever foresee doing that again? >> no one knows what the future holds. >> the future is cloudy for brian ed mondays jr., as well. he is currently in seg reinauguration for fighting another inmate and it's not the first time his fists have put him here. >> i try to calm down from fighting as much. but a lot of times your hands get forced. you got too many chiefs, not enough indians, if you know what i mean. i need a different environment. that's why i'm always fighting and stuff like that because i had done so much in my small little attempt that people always want that drama with me. >> it is the kind of drama the jail doesn't want.

staff has compiled a list of keep-froms, or inmates that must be kept away from edmonds jr. this list of his potential enemies makes it hard for the jail to house him. >> brian edmonds, he was recently put on ad-min seg. >> is this junior or senior? >> junior. >> once a month james clark and staff conduct a meeting to discuss the inmates housed throughout the jail. >> the purpose of this meeting is to make sure we have the right people in the single cells. single cells are a premium item in the department. >> edmonds has continual behavior issues. >> do we need to get him evaluated, from a mental health standpoint? >> you can, but he is more of behavioral. >> well, do it anyway, see what you come up with, lee. all right? >> edmonds junior says his thoughts are mostly what brought him here. he is charged with two counts of

murder to which he has pled not guilty. >> i'm just going to put it like this. i'm facing the death penalty. i'm fighting for my life. i am nothing but 18 and they're trying to take my life. and i done had a rough life. you know, growing up in projects. i ain't really had a stable home for real, bouncing all around the city. the streets raised me. they say experience is life's greatest teacher and that is what i had to learn from. i ain't really had no role models, nobody to actually try to guide me the opposite way. and then now i'm in here, caged in. >> there is no telling if the presence of a role model could have prevented edmonds ending up in jail for his current charges. but the void left by his father's lengthy prison stays leaves a painful open wound. one made more painful where his father resides. >> my daddy is upstairs on the fourth floor.

he just got 30 years. he been in the penitentiary all my life. so it don't phase me. >> so then you're following in your father's footsteps? >> i don't even know him to follow in his footsteps. i get offended when people say that. i got to know him, meet him. i was already out running in the projects. i don't deal with him. at all. i don't deal with him. it is too late to turn back. ain't nothing he can do to change my circumstance, but stay the hell out of my face. i take full responsibility for anything i do. i don't say my daddy would have raised me different because it is what it is. i am going to take responsibility for any position that i put myself in. i feel like in order for me to better myself i got to look at it like it is my fault. and i feel like that is going to help me develop into a man, you know, not just no man by age, but a man mentally. coming up -- >> ain't got to go through this.

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department of corrections, it is rarely quiet. the new arrestees from all over the city and county are brought here for booking. while most will bond out, many others will be detained in jail indefinitely until their charges are resolved in court. just hours earlier, 18-year-old danielle karmak became one of the youngest inmates to be assigned a bed here. her original conviction was second-degree manslaughter. two years earlier, she killed her father. >> i just remember, you know, grabbing the gun. and i just pointed it. aimed it right at his head. you know, yes, my intentions were to kill at that moment. i shot him multiple times in the back of the head. i know it is hard for some people to grasp, but when you're

up against a wall and in fear for your life, up against the wall, there is no telling what you would do. >> karmak lived alone with her father. according to reporting, there was abuse in the home. >> the night before we get in an argument. he's hitting me, pulling my hair. he blacks my face, bloodies my eyes, blacks my nose, finally, goes to bed. i'm shaking. >> karmak says when the abuse continued the next morning, she felt her life was in danger. she picked up her father's gun and shot him in the back of the head as he sat on the couch. >> how many times did you shoot him? >> ten or 12 times, it is horrifying, very traumatic. it is very -- it's something i dream about. i have to live with that for the rest of my life. >> karmak says not all memories of her father are negative. >> my dad would take me out to places, go to movies. he took me to concerts. because that is one thing we did get along about. ac/dc is our band.

he introduced me to it. i have been listening to this since probably the day i was born. he used to bounce me around on my mom's stomach with the radio turned up. i loved him, he was my father, that is who he is, and i'll always love him and miss him. >> several hours after the shooting karmak turned herself into police. originally charged with murder she eventually pled guilty to second-degree manslaughter and was sentenced to eight years in prison. she spent the years in a detention facility and was released to the halfway house shortly after turning 18. karmak violated her probation by not taking her medication. >> i told my director i stopped taking the medication, because it wasn't helping. the probation officer put the cuffs on me. she says i stopped taking the medication an refuse to take the

medication and that's when she puts the cuffs on me. not that i refused not to take my medication. i would have taken it if i knew this would happen. >> a judge will eventually review the matter and could send karmak to an adult prison to serve the remainder of the eight-year sentence. louisville metro marks her first time in an adult facility. >> what are you reading? >> a handbook. >> oh. >> a fact that's not been lost on sherry. >> you ready to go learn your thing on the phone? >> sure. >> who's helping karmak adjust on her first day in jail. >> when she walked in, she was scared to death, shaking. so i just immediately grabbed her and stayed up with her last night. i've been staying up with her, showing her the ropes. around this case, danielle. >> and my case right now, i need to trust somebody. because i feel like i got nobody, i just got myself. and i know in jail, it is not the ideal place to trust somebody, because they're out for themselves. that is where i met sherry. she basically came in and just, like, took me under her wing. >> sherry is serving one year

for failure to pay child support and is waiting trial on a variety of drug-related charges to which she has pled not guilty. >> you hit one five times. you wait, there will be a pause. it will tell you what to do from there. okay? you can find out your commissary information. >> i have been in jail numerous times. in and out. unfortunately, i know the ropes. that's not something i'm proud of. >> we'll have to get you a new bracelet. come on. >> i'm going to need to talk to you. they could charge you with escape. you don't want to go to the hole, honey. she needs a new bracelet. hers tore, and she is having to carry it around, and i don't want to get her in trouble. >> okay. i'll take care of it. >> thank you. i got six girls, five boys, i can imagine him walking in here. he would have the same look probably as she did.

>> somebody pulled it off. >> oh, i know it. >> is that danielle's brace sflet. >> yes. >> there you go, baby. they are preyed upon and that's why i did it. you know? take her under my wing and show her immediately what to look for. i mean, there's lesbian activity that goes on. more experienced women taking advantage of a naive girl. >> i'm going to be the devil's advocate. how do we know you're not going to prey on danielle? >> you just have to take my word for it. i am not going to prey upon the young and naive, trying to help her. i think god put it in my heart to. now, whatever you do, don't take this off for anything. okay, baby? because you can get in a lot of trouble. okay? let's get you ready for a shower. >> okay. coming up -- >> there are a lot of people hating on you, they say you need to chill out. >> new tensions threaten the relationship between sherry

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on any given day, staff at the louisville corrections department know that any inmate can cause a disturbance to warrant a response. today it is in the segregation unit. >> somebody has threatened to flood the walk because he didn't get an additional tray at chow, even though he is not medically ordered to have one. he is threatening to throw urine on us. >> put your hands behind your back. >> when officers arrive at his cell, the inmate complies with orders. >> there you go. roll the door. >> so we're going to move him to a quieter location. he will be in there by myself. he won't have any access to throw urine or whatever on the officers. >> this is why we're doing this.

there is a cup of urine right there. >> and he was going to throw it on the officer. >> the officer came in, and he said i got something for you. filled up a full cup of urine, he said i'm going to throw it on you. >> is that unusual that he actually warned the officer he would throw the urine on him? >> no. because the problem can be when the warning is not taken seriously. you got the option of them saying well, i told you i was going to do it. proactively on this one worked out better for everyone. >> the inmate who made the threats, anthony kimbley, had made the threats two weeks earlier as the inmate launched the assault on officer hamilton. several inmates rushed the door of the housing unit. kimbley was reported to be among them. up until then he was regarded to be a model inmate. >> what's going on, man? you never caused problems. you know, just cool out.

>> he is going through some personal issues, he says. so he said he is going to be quiet the rest of the night for you. >> good, that is what we need. >> we'll see. >> kimbley is currently in jail awaiting for trial for murder. he has pled not guilty. but lately he has been dealing with another death. >> i am dealing with a loss right now. you know, my daddy died. i feel like everything is ending. >> how did your father die? >> he got smoked. he got smoked, man. but it was last wednesday. me and my dad didn't have a serious relationship, like a real bond. he had other kids he took care of. you know, he ain't never been able to take care of me. but at the same time i ain't holding that against him. i still got love for him. he ain't nothing but 38, 39 years old. still young. >> he might face more time in e segregation due to the current situation.

but staff can take that into consideration before making the decision. markel white was given 60 days in segregation where he is locked in a one-man cell 23 hours a day where he has lost all privileges including gym and visitation. he is on day 14 of his stay. >> how has it been going in here? >> it is all right, man. all right sometimes. sometimes it is all right. it is stressful not being out there, you know what i mean. what i really learned is i need to get out there to my son. that's the only thing that really stresses me out is i want to seriously be a father figure because i know what it feel like not to have -- not to have a father. i don't want to send him through the same thing. >> you didn't have a father? >> i had one, but in and out. right now i'm following in his footsteps. you know what i mean? >> when is the last time you actually got to touch your child? >> i ain't. >> you never touched your child? >> huh-uh.

so i'm trying to stay sane, man. trying to calm down. >> it has been several months since brian edmonds has touched or spoken to his son, brian jr., who is incarcerated one floor below him. >> when he first got locked up, we used to come out and visit together. but we had an argument in here, and they put keep-aways on us. so i just want him to know that i'm sorry that i ain't ever been there because i know that is the reason why he is going through what he is going through. so i'm basically apologizing for never being there. >> the two men might not have much time to reconcile. edmonds sr. is about to leave the jail to serve a 30-year sentence. edmonds jr. is charged with murder and could get the death penalty if found guilty. when told of his father's apology, he was surprised. >> it is just something hard for me to believe. i will be 19 this year. that is the most mature part i ever heard my daddy said.

i ain't never heard him keep it real like that, take responsibility. that is unbelievable, that is a major move in his life. making me feel like he do kind of give a damn right now. i would just love to hear him say, man, i blame myself for what you're going through. i don't know. i guess it would change how i look at a lot of things in life, really. i would really make me get rid of a bunch of hatred that i have in my heart. that i always had against my daddy. >> and coming up, a different sort of parental relationship . >> what's going on? >> but first -- >> i say stop talking about it, you need to stop talking about it a different sort of parental relationship hits a nerve. >> i wouldn't expecting someone to say that but i should have known. the media and millions of fans on social media can be a challenge. that's why we partnered with hp to build the new nascar

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>> the louisville metro department of corrections jail is the first adult facility that 18-year-old danielle karmak has ever faced. she is charged with murder, killing her father. she is in jail now far parole violation and has come to rely on sherry lechte for guidance. >> they're going to bring you another sandwich, but you can start on this. >> i'm good. you eat that. >> i'm good. >> you're starving. >> but recently, the relationship has grown noticeably restrained. lechte believes that karmak is making a mistake by revealing details to other inmates. >> which we need to discuss that danielle. you need to quit. i told you you need to stop talking about your charges, i got up, eating, you were still talking about your charges. you can stop it. >> i feel like it is kind of my

business and i'm grown. like i'm 18. i mean, i know it's still young. but like, i kind of see you trying to look out for me. i don't know what i'm trying to say. honestly. i'm just -- >> i tell you right now there's lot of people in here and i'm talking about a lot of people that are hating on you and your case and they're saying they're tired of hearing about it. they're saying you're changing your story. i mean, this is not the place. when i -- i'm telling you, you know, you need to -- realize that. when i say you need to stop talking about it, you need to stop talking about it. this ain't little kid juvenile place. this is big girls. it's time you grew up. >> somebody will show up at your case, baby. trust me. it happens in here. >> people are not going to like the fact that you killed your father. >> i understand that. >> it's between you and god.

i'm just an inmate. you don't have to convince me or anybody in here. >> like i told you, i am not my charge -- you have to get to know me, it is like saying judge me and i'll prove you wrong because i am not my charge, by no means at all. >> well, i can see that. i can see, you know, but i'm not everybody in here. >> i know. >> there is a lot of people hating on you so you need to chill out. okay? >> okay. >> eat. i think mainly what it is, is people are not liking the fact that she killed her father, and she is finding it -- don't get me wrong, danielle, because i love you with all of my heart. she's finding it very easy to talk about. if i shot my dad ten times in my head, and there is more to it than she has told me, if it is true, i couldn't sit here calmly and talk to you or anybody else. couldn't do it. but, she is -- i'm not her.

i didn't experience it. and i hope to god i never do. but that is why they're hating on her, trying to figure out how she can sit here and talk about it over and over. and it don't bother her. >> everything that was said today, like, questionable if i can continue to trust her or not because all that was said. it caught me by surprise, like i wasn't expecting somebody to say that but i should have known, really. before i opened my mouth and started talking about it and stuff like that. >> are you okay? >> i think i'll just keep to myself before i leave. stay out of the way, stay out of trouble, avoid people, everything. >> i think i'm just trying to toughen you up in case you do go the prison because when you do go to prison it is going to be a lot harder, and there isn't going to be someone who takes you in and looks out for you. you need to prepare yourself. you seem very, very upset with me. >> no, i'm just eating, and i just woke up.

>> the next time we checked in with karmac, she informed us she no longer wished to speak on camera. and while her relationship with lechte appeared to have frayed, anthony wanted to change his opinion. he was recently moved to a more secure cell after threatening to throw a cup of urine at an officer. >> we moved him to a quieter location to give him some peace and quiet and get his thoughts together because normally mr. kimbley doesn't give me a problem. i was actually quite surprised to find out that she was kicking the door and threatening to throw urine. >> all up in the door to hear you. >> kimbley said he's been upset over the recent death of his father. >> you're upset over some personal issues. >> i just needed somebody to sit down and talk to. i feel like i couldn't just sit down and talk to anybody. >> right. it's a very stressful time.

especially when you lose somebody and you can't leave to go do anything about it. you can't leave to go comfort your family like you and it's hard on you. i just figure by putting you in here to give you peace and quiet. >> i feel like letting the stress off by beating the -- >> you should roll your mat up and beat your mat if you need to. you won't hurt your hands or feet doing that. not like kicking a steel door. you know, one thing that i could suggest that you do is get paper ready. you sit down and write your stuff out on paper. it helps a lot. trust me. it helps you release it, getting it on paper and go back and read it. >> i never thought of that. >> yeah. try doing that. all your feelings, how you're feeling, everything. >> like writing a rap or a poem or a story. >> yeah. a story. and that really does help and a really nice way of releasing what you have inside. >> and you'll read the story? >> yeah. i'll come and read it.

>> i'll write a story. >> okay. >> appreciate you coming to. >> you're welcome. thank you mr. kimbley for not being all disruptive for me and everything else. okay? i just figured i'd give you peace and quiet. okay? >> yeah. >> i'll stop back and talk to you. >> thank you. >> okay? thank you. >> with most of the inmates that don't cause me any problems, i will kind of go out of my way to spend a little more time talking to them. he was all excited about writing everything down to show it to me later on and boosted his little attitude and he is's a little bit happier at the moment. i don't think we'll have a problem with him kicking the door or anything at all. coming up -- >> you act like i never tried, though. >> even when i lived with you. >> we fought almost every day. >> so i mean, what am i supposed to do? >> did you expect anything different sni a father and son provide a lesson for all parents.

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on any given day more than 2,000 men and women are incarcerated at the louisville metro department of corrections jail. most are working on their cases, hoping to clear their names and go free. today, however, two inmates, brian edmonds jr. and his father, brian sr. will attempt to clear long-lingering emotional wounds. edmonds jr. who could be sentenced to death if he's found guilty asked jail officials to allow him a final visit with his father who will soon transfer to state prison to start a 30-year sentence. the request was approved. >> it really might be the last time i get to see him for a while. >> what's up, baby? >> what's happening? hug. what's going on?

>> nothing. >> where is it at? what's going on with you? >> well, let me tell you something before we start the conversation. i already told them from the get-go, i don't blame you for nothing. i chose the path i took. i chose to do what i wanted to do. but at the same time i just want to know, you know what i'm saying, if you could do anything different what could you have done? what you thought you could have done different. >> there would have been a whole lot different. i would have chose a different route so you wouldn't end up in the situation that you was in. same steps as me and your uncle. i'm tired of every time i look up you're in the hole. i'm sick of the fighting. i mean, that bothers me. i'm saying i know you're going to handle your own. but i mean, never knowing when something serious is going to happen to you. i'm saying that's frustrating. that's very frustrating. >> i mean, it's frustrating to me that you just got 30 years. you know? and then, you know, we always

had a friendship, but we ain't have a father-son relationship. and it's like, you know what i'm saying, when you're locked up you talk a whole lot of sense. you don't want this, you don't want that. but you ain't never demonstrated that. put it like this. if we was both to get out today, what do you feel you could do to help me? even if you don't ever get out. you got 30 years. they just offered me 30 years not too long ago. if i get 30 years like you, what would you do to help me to be the man you never was or you that wanted to be. let's say i'm willing to listen or learn -- >> you act like i ain't never tried, though. i'm saying -- >> explain to me. >> even when i lived with you. >> we fought almost every day. >> if i whoop you, what was you doing? you trying to make it seem like i was just off the muscle fighting you. no. i'm saying you weren't minding period. you didn't mind nobody but your mother. so what am i supposed to do? >> did you expect anything different? >> no. no. i never expected anything different from not being there. >> i ain't never really been loved.

like i remember the first christmas we had together. you remember that? >> mm-hmm. >> you started crying. >> it wasn't the first christmas but -- >> the first christmas. >> yeah. >> the first time we really spent christmas together. >> yeah. >> i feel like i -- i ain't never talked about i was a kid. i was probably about 12, that was the first time i ever thought you really loved me. other than that i ain't never had -- i don't know what the hell love is. i rather not have shoes, clothes, all that materialistic [ bleep ] and just have my mom and my daddy. that's just how i feel. i wish i would have had my mom and my daddy. and i feel like i would have been all right. i would have had some morals and some principles. you know what i'm saying? that's why i'm so angry. you know what i'm saying? because of stuff i never had. >> moments later edmonds jr. brings up his father's recent relationship with another woman and her young daughter. >> and you on the phone telling her you love her -- and her child. >> no. i wasn't even talking to her. >> you love her and her child. >> i write you every day -- hold, hold. no. no, no, no, no.

>> i'm trying to finish. >> no, no. because you ain't going to go through all that. i write you every day through the work days. and every letter i write you i tell you i love you. there's not one letter you wrote me telling me you love me. not one. don't try to make it seem like i told a little girl i love her and then i don't -- >> that's the thing. you told her, period. >> i'm saying what do a child got to do with it? >> that ain't your child. >> it don't matter. >> you weren't there for me when i was 6 and 7. >> i was there. >> you wasn't there. >> i was out when you were 7. >> you weren't there. >> you called another man daddy. so i'm saying who's supposed to be getting mad? >> who was with my mama when you went to penitentiary? >> it don't matter. that was your mama's choice. >> who was with my mama when you went to penitentiary? >> look, i only did this interview because they said you want to do it. i'm saying for real, bro, we ain't got to go through this. >> i ain't give a [ bleep ] about this interview. >> he's trying to make it seem like it's just his -- >> brian sr., he's angry. >> he's supposed to be. >> i mean, i get frustrated when i think about it because i

already know that the majority of the situation got something to do with me not being there. it's hard knowing that he could possibly end up with the death penalty. it's hard to even think about it. i always wanted to be there to help him. but, i mean, which is sad to say, i let his mama basically run me away. and for a long time i had a grudge against her because she had another baby. so when i did get out, that's what was really stopping me from any -- you know what i'm saying. even being around him. because of that. and i should never have done it. but i felt like that was the only way for me to get even with her. and then when i got out and he was calling him daddy, it was real touching. >> did you blame me for that? >> no. i blamed your mama. i mean, i'm sorry that i was

never a father figure, you know what i'm saying, and just being your friend. i mean, i wanted it so bad because, like, you know what i'm saying, honestly, in my heart i didn't want you to end up here with me. i mean, you might think that i'm just saying this for the cameras. for real, [ bleep ] these cameras. i only did the interview for you. you feel me? i only did it so i can have this conversation. you know what i'm saying? this is affecting me way more than it's affected you. because i know that the majority of this is only because i wasn't there. >> that's all i wanted to hear. that little bitty piece right there. this whole conversation, that was the only piece i wanted to hear. the only piece i wanted to hear. i'm no longer mad at him. at all. i swear to god, i'm not. now that we've realized this is -- you know what i'm saying, we can get over this bridge, you know what i'm saying. some father-son stuff. if it's from jail cell to jail cell, it's still possible. you know what i'm saying? you can still -- if i was to get

out and you had to stay in you could still make an impression from jail. i don't know exactly how. but you know what i'm saying, ain't nothing impossible. you owe me to try. that's the only thing i'm going to say you owe me. i don't blame you for nothing else. you owe me enough at least to put in an effort. i don't care how stubborn i am. you owe me that. and that's all i ask. >> let's wrap it up. >> yeah. >> i love you. >> i love you, too. >> i don't know really what to say. i'm satisfied, though. honestly in my heart, you know what i'm saying, i ain't mad at him. ain't no hard feelings. ain't no none of it. i felt like he was sincere about it. that part of being a man he didn't know how to do. so i know he know he's wrong. and that's all that matters. i don't care if nobody else in the world knows. now i really know. i'm cool with that. >> all right. acilities will hav

i'm chris jansing. in a late-night session, house members are debating a bill to continue funding the government with a provision to delay obama care for a year. republicans have been defending the provision on the floor calling it necessary to stop the affordable care act. a democrat called ate shameful night for republicans. the government will shut down midnight monday unless the house and senate agree on a bill. we'll have that vote live