we have been tasked to go in because you stole order. >> the jail responds with force after an officer is assaulted and inmates attempt escape. >> how many times did you shoot him? >> 10, 12 times. you know, it's horrifying, it's

very traumatic. >> narrator: an 18-year-old shoots her father to death, then find a surrogate mother on the inside. >> when she walked in, she was scared to death, shaking. so i just been taking care of her, showing her the ropes. let's get you ready for a shower. >> okay. >> you're going to have to take my word for it. >> narrator: another inmate not normally known for trouble issues a vile threat. two other inmates provide a cautionary tale for fathers and sons everywhere. >> i was out -- >> when you were 7. >> you were a nerd. you called another man daddy, who was supposed to be getting mad?

>> narrator: in downtown louisville, kentucky, two adjoining buildings serve as the center of the criminal justice system. they house both the courts and the louisville department of corrections jail. on any given day, about 2,300 men and women are incarcerated here. most have only been accused of crimes and are awaiting trial for the resolution of their cases. it could be a tense environment as inmates and the officers who supervise them know all too well. >> here in this facility, you're looking at a couple of officer assaults a month. that's jail-wide. you try to train your people to be prepared to deal with any type of situation that comes up. any day you come to work, you put yourself at risk. >> narrator: today is one of those times. >> by the inmate. [ bleep ] >> all units, j4 is on lockdown

until further nice. j4's on lookdown until further notice. -- lockdown until further notice. >> we've had an officer get assaulted up on the fourth floor. they have the inmate under control, and they're placing him in the restraint chair. >> narrator: officers used pepper spray to subdue inmate marquel white, in jail on a murder charge to which he has pled not guilty. he will remain strapped into the restraint chair for up to two hours aol officers feel it is safe to return him to his cell. >> the second assault in a week on that floor. inmate to officer. >> the dorm has a lot of young and aggressive inmates. >> you all right? >> i'm good. i was putting two guys coming back from gym in there. as soon as the door opens, the inmate steps out and cold cocs me. >> got a good bump -- >> it will breeze. my jaw's sore, but's good now. my knee. other than that, i'm fine.

>> marquel? what's going on with you and the officer? >> nothing. >> why did you hit an officer? the sergeant and i walked through your old dorm and everything seemed fine. then my officers go into the dorm, and as soon as the door opens up, you hit one. i'm trying to figure out why. >> i made the fifth. >> just left him -- >> let me see your injury. >> part of the job. >> you got business in there -- >> narrator: during the assault, several inmates in white storm tried to rush the door which staff view as an escape attempt. >> the dermon camera was observed, several covering their faces, picking up what could be a weapon possibly. so we'd like to take in the s.o.r.t. team. >> narrator: the special operations resort team. >> we have you in been tasked to

go in the dorm and restore order. >> waiting for the phone call. >> got it. >> all right. >> every situation is different. the biggest concerns and threats now is we don't know who's involved. we don't know what they have. we don't know if this was planned. there's too many unknowns. we're going to use manpower. whatever tools we have, this has to be done fast and safe. >> the s.o.r.t. team will suit up in full gear, helmet, body armor, vest. we'll take the launcher, mc9 commander for crowd control. we're going to take flexicuffs due to the number of them, taser shield. >> you ready? >> got the camera. >> narrator: because of the potential to lose control of the floor, it's a dangerous situation. >> stand by. >> what we're going to do, we're going to put them down and cuff them in front of the dvr.

>> okay. >> we're going nog, order them all on the ground. anybody who doesn't comply with orders, we know that's where our attention needs to be focused at. >> narrator: due to safety concerns, the s.o.r.t. team would not permit us to enter the dorm, but we were able to shoot the raid off control room monitors as it took place. >> they're going in right now to have everybody on the ground and flexicuffing all the inmates on the ground. they're searching the guys individually, then placing them on the floor facing the wall until they've searched all the inmates. they'll stay in the area until they completed their search of the dorm. >> narrator: with the dorm secured, our crew is allowed back inside. >> get them searched. now we're searching for weapons and contraband to make sure we've got people looking at the dvr trying to identify the main perpetrators. >> once they shake down the dorm and identify the ringleaders of the incident, they're going to be moved to single cells.

administrative segregation. they will not be returning to that dorm. >> here -- >> taking care of [ bleep ]. >> now they've got us laid out -- [ bleep ] >> ain't right for real. [ bleep ] officers. that's how i feel. >> these inmates are obviously still agitated. as of now, everything has gone the way we've planned it. >> narrator: officers remove a number of inmates they suspect are those when rushed the door and isolate them in single person cells in the administrative segregation unit for further questioning. the inmates remaining in the dorm are placed on 24-hour lockdown. among them is brian edmond sr. >> right now my life is off track, you know what i'm saying? i just had a rough life, my whole 36 years of living.

i was doing good in school. straight as and bs. i played basketball. i don't know. i just chose the wrong route. and this is where it landed me. >> mr. brian edmond sr. let me look at these charges. sodomy first, intimidating a participate in a legal process, persistent felony one. he was sentenced to 30 years. >> narrator: having been sentenced, edmonds awaits transfer to prison, a place he is familiar with. he's been there on three separate occasions serving a total of 14 years. >> tired of being in this jail. can't wait to get away from here. go to my next phase so i can get ready to, you know, get my appeal done. >> narrator: although no stranger to prison, he does find himself in unusual circumstances here. housed in a cell on another floor of the jail is his 18-year-old son, brian edmonds

jr., who has been charged with two counts of murder. he's pled not guilty. >> we ain't got no real close relationship because i've been locked up off and on. so i ain't never been there, you know what i'm saying, through him growing up. he know i love him, and he loves me. but when he went ahead and all like father and son relationship, it was more like a relationship. and if they was to convict him, the blame would be on me because i ain't ever been there, you know what i'm saying? i take his charge if they was to let me. i would do his time because i don't want to see him go through nothing lake this. >> narrator: coming up -- >> so then you are following in your father's footsteps? >> i don't know him to follow in his footsteps. i get offended when people say that. >> narrator: brian edmonds jr. has words for his father. >> ain't nothing he can do to change my circumstances but stay out of my face. >> narrator: an 18-year-old

takes her father's life. >> i grabbed a point and aimed it at his head.

at the louisville metro department of corrections jail, sometimes it will be directed at them. the latest assault occurred when markel white punched an officer as he entered white's housing unit. >> he basically sucker punched an officer as he came in the dorm which resulted in several other disturbances in the dorm. >> white, who is currently in jail awaiting for trial for murder, has been put in a segregation cell and put on s.o.r.t. status, the highest destination for a cell. he will be locked up for now, 23 hours a day, lose all of his privileges and have little more

to do than exercise or sleep. >> what did you do to the officer hamilton? >> i hit him. i hit him. i don't know. at the end of the day i came out [ bleep ] up. mace. choked out. you know? some chair -- what's that chair called? >> restraint chair. >> restraint chair. >> let me talk to you real quick. all right? what is going on, white? i want to talk to you a little bit about what happened last night. get your side. >> i just got fed up. >> so what are you feeling like today? >> i'm feeling good. >> you know your discipline officer will see you in a couple of days. and because of that, i'll be by to see you and we'll be reviewing you depending on your actions every two or three weeks for s.o.r.t. status, all right? well, i'll be talking to you.

>> all right. >> mcgovern. >> white says he lashed out at the officer because he felt disrespected. >> how do you feel you were disrespected? >> they talk to me any kind of way, you know. but i showed them the utmost respect. i talk to them in a mannerable way, and they don't talk back mannerable. i just got fed up with it. >> could you ever foresee doing that again? >> no one knows what the future holds. >> the future is cloudy for brianedmonds jr., as well. he's currently in segregation for fighting another inmate and it's not the first time his fists have put him here. >> i try to calm down from fighting as much. but a lot of times your hands get forced. you got too many chiefs, not

enough indians, if you know what i mean. i need a different environment. that's why i'm always fighting and stuff like that because i had done so much in my small little attempt that people always want that drama with me. >> it is the kind of drama the jail doesn't want. staff has compiled a list of keep-froms, or inmates that must be kept away from edmonds jr. this list of his potential enemies makes it hard for the jail to house him. >> brian edmonds, he was recently put on ad-min seg. >> is this junior or senior? >> junior. >> once a month, chief of staff james clark and his senior personnel conduct a meeting to discuss the inmates housed throughout the jail. >> the purpose of this meeting is to make sure we have the right people in the single cells. single cells are a premium item in the department. >> edmonds has continual

behavior issues. >> do we need to get him evaluated, from a mental health standpoint? >> you can, but he is more of behavioral. >> well, do it anyway, see what you come up with, lee. all right? >> while staff members focus on his behavior in jail, edmonds jr. says his thoughts are mostly what brought him here. he is charged with two counts of murder to which he has pled not guilty. >> i'm just going to put it like this. i'm facing the death penalty. i'm fighting for my life. i am nothing but 18 and they're trying to take my life. and i done had a rough life. you know, growing up in projects. i ain't really had a stable home for real, bouncing all around the city. the streets raised me. they say experience is life's greatest teacher and that is what i had to learn from. i ain't really had no role models, nobody to actually try to guide me the opposite way. and then now i'm in here, caged in.

>> there is no telling if the presence of a role model could have prevented edmonds from ending up in jail for his current charges. but the void left by his father's lengthy prison stays leaves a painful open wound. one made more painful where his father resides. >> my daddy is upstairs on the fourth floor. he just got 30 years. he been in the penitentiary all my life. so it don't phase me. >> so then you're following in your father's footsteps? >> i don't even know him to follow in his footsteps. i get offended when people say that. i got to know him, know who he was. i didn't meet him until i was about 7. i was already out running in the projects. i don't deal with him. at all. i don't deal with him. it is too late to turn back. ain't nothing he can do to change my circumstance, but stay the hell out of my face. i take full responsibility for anything i do. i ain't never going to say my daddy would have raised me different because it

is what it is. i am going to take responsibility for any position that i put myself in. i feel like in order for me to better myself i got to look at it like it is my fault. and i feel like that is going to help me develop into a man, you know, not just no man by age, but a man mentally. coming up -- >> ain't got to go through this. >> i don't give a [ bleep ] about this interview. >> he's trying to make it one side -- >> the edmonds struggle to reconcile the past and what could be the final meeting of their lives. but first, a vulnerable young inmate encounters a surrogate mom. >> i just immediately take her under my wing and teach her what to look for. i mean there is lesbian activity that goes on. ♪ now you can give yourself a kick in the rear! v8 v-fusion plus energy. natural energy from green tea plus fruits and veggies. need a little kick? ooh! could've had a v8. in the juice aisle.

the jig tan division at the louisville metro -- inmate division at the louisville metro department of corrections, it is rarely quiet. the new arrestees from all over the city and county are brought here for booking. while most will bond out, many others will be detained in jail >> put everything in that bag.

>> yeah. >> just hours earlier, 18-year-old danielle karmak became one of the youngest inmates to be assigned a bed here. she was arrested for probation violation. her original conviction was second-degree manslaughter. two years earlier, she killed her father. >> i just remember, you know, grabbing the gun. and i just pointed it. aimed it right at his head. you know, yes, my intentions were to kill at that moment. i shot him multiple times in the back of the head. i know it is hard for some people to grasp, but when you're up against a wall and in fear for your life, up against the wall, there is no telling what you would do. >> karmak lived alone with her father. according to reporting, there was abuse in the home. >> the night before we get in an argument. he's hitting me, pulling my hair.

he punches my face, blacks my eye, bloodies my eyes, bloodies my eyes, blacks my nose, finally, goes to bed. i'm shaking. >> karmak says when the abuse continued the next morning, she felt her life was in danger. she picked up her father's gun and shot him in the back of the head as he sat on the couch. >> how many times did you shoot him? >> 10, 12 times. it's horrifying. it's very traumatic. it is very -- it's something i dream about. i have to live with that for the rest of my life. >> karmak says not all memories of her father are negative. >> my dad would take me out to places, go to movies. he took me to concerts. because that is one thing we did get along about. ac/dc is our band. he introduced me to it. i have been listening to this since probably the day i was born. he used to bounce me around on my mom's stomach with the radio turned up of ac/dc playing. i loved him, he was my father,

that is who he is, and i'll always love him and miss him. >> several hours after the shooting karmak turned herself in to police. originally charged with murder she eventually pled guilty to second-degree manslaughter and was sentenced to eight years in prison. she spent most of the following year in a detention facility and was released to the halfway house shortly after turning 18. karmak violated her probation by not taking her medication. >> i told my director i stopped taking the medication, because it wasn't helping. i need counseling and stuff like that. that's when, you know, the probation officer put the cuffs on me. she says i stopped taking the medication an refuse to take the medication and that's when she puts the cuffs on me. not that i refused not to take my medication. i would have taken it if i knew this would happen. >> a judge will eventually review the matter and could send karmak to an adult prison to serve the remainder of the eight-year sentence.

louisville metro marks her first time in an adult facility. >> what are you reading? >> a handbook. >> oh. >> a fact that's not been lost on sherry. >> you ready to go learn your thing on the phone? >> sure. >> who's helping karmak adjust on her first day in jail. >> when she walked in, she was scared to death, shaking. so i just immediately grabbed her and stayed up with her last night. i've been staying up with her, showing her the ropes. around this case, danielle. >> and my case right now, i need to trust somebody. because i feel like i got nobody, i just got myself. and i know in jail, it is not the ideal place to trust somebody, because they're out for themselves. that is where i met sherry. she basically came in and just, like, took me under her wing. >> sherry is serving one year for failure to pay child support and is awaiting trial on a variety of drug-related charges to which she has pled not guilty. >> you hit one five times. you wait, there will be a pause. it will tell you what to do from there. okay? you can find out your commissary information.

>> i have been in jail numerous times. in and out. unfortunately, i know the ropes. that's not something i'm proud of. >> we'll have to get you a new bracelet. come on. >> okay. >> i'm going to need to talk to you. they could charge you with escape. you don't want to go to the hole, honey. she needs a new bracelet. hers tore, and she is having to carry it around, and i don't want to get her in trouble. >> okay. i'll take care of it. >> thank you. i've got six kids. one girl and five boys, i can imagine him walking in here. he would have the same look probably as she did. >> somebody pulled it off. >> oh, i know it. >> hey, is that danielle's bracelet? >> yes. >> there you go, baby. they are preyed upon and that's why i did it. you know? take her under my wing and show her immediately what to look for. i mean, there's lesbian activity that goes on.

more experienced women taking advantage of a naive girl. >> i'm going to be the devil's advocate. how do we know you're not going to prey on danielle? >> you just have to take my word for it. i'm not -- >> not what? >> i am not going to prey upon the young and naive, trying to help her. i think god put it in my heart to. now, whatever you do, don't take this off for anything. okay, baby? because you can get in a lot of trouble. okay? let's get you ready for a shower. >> okay. coming up -- >> there are a lot of people hating on you, they say you need to chill out. okay? >> okay. >> new tensions threaten the relationship between sherry and danielle. >> everything that was said today, it's questionable if i can trust her or not because of everything that was said. threatening to throw urine on us. >> an inmate not normally known for trouble finds himself knee-deep in it. ♪ honey, we need to talk.

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hey there, i'm veronica de la cruz. the house of representatives should set the wheels in motion for a government shutdown. the house passed a bill to fund the government. that included a froifgz delay the implementation of obama care by a year, something the democratic-controlled senate said it will not pass and president obama has threatened a veto, as well. if congress can agree to fund the government by midnight monday, the shutdown will begin. i'm veronica de la cruz, now back to "lockup." on any given day, staff at the louisville corrections department know that any inmate can cause a disturbance to warrant a response. today it is in the segregation disciplinary unit. >> somebody has threatened to

flood the walk because he didn't get an additional tray at chow, even though he is not medically ordered to have one. he is threatening to throw urine on us. >> put your hands behind your back. >> when officers arrive at his cell, the inmate complies with orders. >> there you go. roll the door. >> so we're going to move him to a quieter location. he will be in there by myself. he won't have any access to throw urine or whatever on the officers. >> this is why we're doing this. there is a cup of urine right there. >> and he was going to throw it on the officer. >> the officer came in, and he said, "i got something for you." filled up a full cup of urine, he said i'm going to throw it on you. >> is that unusual that he actually warned the officer he would throw the urine on him? >> no. because the problem can be when the warning is not taken seriously. you got the option of them

saying, "well, i told you i was going to do it." we acted proactively on this one worked out better for everyone. >> the inmate who made the threats, anthony kimbley, had made the threats two weeks earlier as the inmate launched the assault on officer hamilton. several inmates rushed the door of the housing unit. kimbley was reported to be among them. up until then he was regarded to be a model inmate. >> what's going on, man? you never caused problems. you know, just cool out. we'll get you back over there eventually. >> he is going through some personal issues, he says. so he said he is going to be quiet the rest of the night for you. >> good, that is what we need. >> we'll see. >> kimbley is currently in jail awaiting for trial for murder. he has pled not guilty. but lately he has been dealing with another death. >> i am dealing with a loss right now. you know, my daddy died.

i feel like everything is ending. >> how did your father die? >> he got smoked. he got smoked, man. but it was last wednesday. me and my dad didn't have a serious relationship, like a real bond. he had other kids he took care of. you know, he ain't never been able to take care of me. but at the same time i ain't holding that against him. i still got love for him. he ain't nothing but 38, 39 years old. still young. >> he might face more time in segregation due to the current situation. but staff can take that into consideration before making the decision. markel white was given 60 days in segregation where he is locked in a one-man cell 23 hours a day where he has lost all privileges including gym and visitation. he is on day 14 of his stay. >> how has it been going in here? >> it is all right, man. all right sometimes.

sometimes it is all right. it is stressful not being out there, you know what i mean. what i really learned is i need to get out there to my son. that's the only thing that really stresses me out is i want to seriously be a father figure because i know what it feel like not to have -- not to have a father. i don't want to send him through the same thing. >> you didn't have a father? >> i had one, but in and out. right now i'm following in his footsteps. you know what i mean? >> when is the last time you actually got to touch your child? >> i ain't. >> you never touched your child? >> huh-uh. so i'm trying to stay sane, man. trying to calm down. >> it has been several months since brian edmonds has touched or spoken to his son, brian jr., who is incarcerated one floor below him. >> when he first got locked up, we used to come out and visit together. but we had an argument in here,

and they put keep-aways on us. so i just want him to know that i'm sorry that i ain't ever been there because i know that is the reason why he is going through what he is going through. so i'm basically apologizing for never being there. >> the two men might not have much time to reconcile. edmonds sr. is about to leave the jail to serve a 30-year sentence. edmonds jr. is charged with murder and could get the death penalty if found guilty. when told of his father's apology, he was surprised. >> it is just something hard for me to believe. i will be 19 this year. that is the most mature part i ever heard my daddy said. i ain't never heard him keep it real like that. him taking responsibility is unbelievable. that's a major move in his life. making me feel like he do kind of give a damn right now. i would just love to hear him say, man, i blame myself for what you're going through. i don't know.

i guess it would change how i look at a lot of things in life, really. i would really make me get rid of a bunch of hatred that i have in my heart that i always had against my daddy. and coming up, the edmonds give their relationship a final chance. first -- >> i say stop talking about it, you need to stop talking about it a different sort of parental relationship hits a nerve. >> i wasn't expecting someone to say that but i should have known. brimming with farm grown veggies. huh, just like yours. huh. [ male announcer ] and roasted white meat chicken. just like yours. huh. soup this good could never come from a can. [ male announcer ] people will say, soup this good could never come from a can. i love this show. [ male announcer ] so good they'll think it's homemade. try campbell's homestyle soup. m'm! m'm! good.

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have those armbands, please. >> the louisville metro department of corrections jail is the first adult facility that 18-year-old danielle karmak has ever faced. she is charged with murder, killing her father. she is in jail now far parole violation and has come to rely on sherry lechte for guidance. >> they're going to bring you another sandwich, but you can start on this. >> i'm good. you eat that. >> i'm good. >> you're starving. >> i just woke up. >> but recently, the relationship has grown noticeably restrained. lechte believes that karmak is making a mistake by revealing details to other inmates. >> which we need to discuss that danielle. you need to quit. i told you you need to stop talking about your charges, i got up, eating, you were still talking about your charges. your case and details and stuff. you can stop it. >> i feel like it is kind of my business and i'm grown. like i'm 18. i mean, i know it's still young. but like, i kind of see you trying to look out for me. i don't know what i'm trying to

say. honestly. i'm just -- >> i tell you right now there's lot of people in here and i'm talking about a lot of people that are hating on you and your case and they're saying they're tired of hearing about it. they're saying you're changing your story. i mean, this is not the place. when i -- i'm telling you, you know, you need to -- realize that. when i say you need to stop talking about it, you need to stop talking about it. something bad's going to happen, danielle. you need to realize that. this ain't little kid juvenile place. this is big girls. it's time you grew up. >> somebody will show up at your case, baby. they'll use it against you. trust me. it happens in here. >> people are not going to like the fact that you killed your father. >> i understand that. >> it's between you and god. i'm just an inmate. you don't have to convince me or anybody in here. >> like i told you, i am not my charge by no means. you have to get to

know me, it is like saying judge me and i'll prove you wrong because i am not my charge, by no means at all. >> well, i can see that. i can see, you know, but i'm not everybody in here. >> i know. >> there is a lot of people hating on you so you need to chill out. okay? >> okay. >> eat. i think mainly what it is, is people are not liking the fact that she killed her father, and she is finding it -- don't get me wrong, danielle, because i love you with all of my heart. she's finding it very easy to talk about. if i shot my dad ten times in the head -- and there's more to it than she told me, if it is true, i couldn't sit here calmly and talk to you or anybody else. couldn't do it. but, she is -- i'm not her. i didn't experience it. and i hope to god i never do. but that is why they're hating

on her, trying to figure out how she can sit here and talk about it over and over. and it don't bother her. >> everything that was said today, like, questionable if i can continue to trust her or not because all that was said. it caught me by surprise, like i wasn't expecting somebody to say that but i should have known, really. before i opened my mouth and started talking about it and stuff like that. >> are you okay? >> i think i'll just keep to myself before i leave. stay out of the way, stay out of trouble, avoid people, everything. >> i think i'm just trying to toughen you up in case you do go the prison because when you do go to prison it is going to be a lot harder, and there isn't going to be someone who takes you in and looks out for you. you need to prepare yourself. you seem very, very upset with me. >> no, i'm just eating, and i just woke up. >> the next time we checked in with karmac, she informed us she no longer wished to speak on camera. and while her relationship with

lechte appeared to have frayed, anthony kimbley apparently wants to change his relationship with staff. >> i never had a problem with you. >> he was recently moved to a more secure cell after threatening to throw a cup of urine at an officer. >> we moved him to a quieter location to give him some peace and quiet and get his thoughts together because normally mr. kimbley doesn't give me a problem. ever. i was actually quite surprised to find out that he was kicking the door and threatening to throw urine. >> all up in the door to hear you. >> kimbley said he's been upset over the recent death of his father. >> i understand you're acting out because you're upset over some personal issues. >> i just needed somebody to sit down and talk to. i feel like i couldn't just sit down and talk to anybody. >> right. it's a very stressful time. especially when you lose somebody and you can't leave to go do anything about it. you can't leave to go comfort your family like you want. and it's hard on you.

i just figure by putting you in here to give you peace and quiet. >> i feel like letting the stress off by beating the door. >> you should roll your mat up and beat your mat if you need to. you won't hurt your hands or feet doing that. not like kicking a steel door. you know, one thing that i could suggest that you do is get paper and you sit down and write your stuff out on paper. it helps a lot. trust me. it helps you release it, getting it on paper and go back and read it. >> i never thought of that. >> yeah. try doing that. all your feelings, how you're feeling, everything. >> like writing a rap or a poem or a story. >> yeah. a story. and that really does help and a really nice way of releasing what you have inside. >> and you'll read the story? >> yeah. i'll come and read it. >> i'll write a story. >> okay. >> appreciate you coming, too. >> you're welcome. thank you mr. kimbley for not being all disruptive for me and everything else.

okay? i just figured i'd give you peace and quiet. i figured that's what you needed. >> yeah. >> i'll stop back and talk to you. >> thank you. >> okay? thank you. with most of the inmates that don't cause me any problems, i will kind of go out of my way to spend a little more time talking to them. he was all excited about writing everything down to show it to me later on and boosted his little attitude and he is's a little bit happier at the moment. i don't think we'll have a problem with him kicking the door or anything at all. coming up -- >> you act like i never tried, though. >> even when i lived with you. >> we fought almost every day. >> so i mean, what am i supposed to do? >> did you expect anything different? >> from inside the walls of jail, a father and son provide a lesson for all parents.

on any given day, more than 2,000 men and women are incarcerated at the louisville department of corrections jail. most are working on their cases, hoping to clear their names and go free. today, however, two inmates, brian edmonds jr. and his father brian sr. will attempt to clear long-lingering emotional wounds. edmonds jr. who could be sentenced to death if he's found guilty asked jail officials to allow him a final visit with his father, who will soon transfer to state prison to start a 30-year sentence. the request was approved. >> it really might be the last time i get to see him for a while. >> what's up? >> what's happening? >> a hug. >> what's going on? >> sit, man. what's going on with you? >> lets me tell you something before you start conversation. i told you from the get-go, i

don't blame you for nothing. you know what i'm saying? i chose the path i took. i chose to do what i wanted to do. at the same time, i just want, you know what i'm saying, if you could do anything different, what could you have done? what you thought you could have done different? >> i would have chose a different route so you wouldn't end up in the situation you was in. you know, a father and a son, i'm tired of every time i look up, you're in the hole. i'm sick of the fighting. i mean, it bothers me. i'm saying, i know you're going to handle your own. i mean, never knowing when something serious is going to happen to you. i'm saying that's frustrating. that's very frustrating. >> i mean, as far as -- you just got 30 years, you know. and then, you know, we always had a friendship, but we didn't have no father/son relationship. when your look locked up, you --

you're locked up, you talk a lot of sense. you don't want this or that, but you ain't never demonstrated that. if we was to get out today, what you feel you could do to help me? even if we don't never get out. you got 30 years, they just offered me 30 years not too long ago. what could you do to help may develop into a man that you never was or wanted to be? saying i listen or learn, whatever -- >> why you act like i don't never tried, though. i'm saying -- >> explain to me. >> even when i lived with you. >> we fought almost every day. >> if i whoop you, what was you doing? you make a scene that i was off to fight you none. you weren't minding period. you didn't mind nobody but your mother. so i mean -- >> look, what -- did you expect anything different? >> nah. i never expected anything different from not being there. >> i ain't never been loved. i remember the first christmas we had together. you remember that? >> uh-huh. >> you started crying. >> it wasn't the first christmas but -- >> the first christmas.

the first time we really spent christmas together. >> yeah. >> i felt like -- i missed something, too. i was a kid, i was probably about 12. that was the first time i ever thought you really loved me. other than that, i ain't never had -- i don't know what the hell love is. i rather not have shoes, clothes, all that materialistic [ bleep ] and have my mom and my dad. that's just how i feel. i wish i would have had my mom and daddy. i feel like i would have been all right. i would have had mobiles and principles, you know what -- morals and principles, you know what i'm saying? it's stuff i never had. >> moments later, edmonds jr. brings up his father's recent relationship with another woman and her young daughter. >> and you on the phone telling her you -- you love her and her child. >> nah, i wasn't even talking to her -- >> you love her and her child. >> i write you every -- i write you every day -- >> hold, hold. no, no, no. you ain't going to go through all that. >> i write you all day through the work aides.

there's not one letter you wrote me about you love me. not one. don't make a scene that i told a little girl i loved her, don't matter, [ bleep ] period. >> you told her period -- >> i'm saying, what do a child got to do with it? >> that ain't your child. >> it don't matter. >> you weren't there for me when i was 6, 7, and 8 -- >> yeah, i was out when you were 7. >> you weren't there. >> you call another man daddy. who was supposed to be snad. >> who was with my -- mad? >> who was with your mother -- >> that don't matter. >> what was ma'am to mom -- wasm to do with the interview? i only did the interview because you said you -- >> he's trying to make it one sided like it's his side, the right side. >> i told you i don't blame you -- >> he's angry. >> he's supposed to be. i mean, i get frustrated when i think about it because i already know that the majority of the situation got something to do with me not being there.

it's hard knowing that he could possibly end up with the death penalty. it's hard to even think about it. i always wanted to be there to help him, but i mean, we just had to say i let his mama basically run me away. and for a long time his a grudge against her because she had another baby. so when i did get out, that's what was stopping me from -- you know, even being around him. because of that. and i should never have done it, but i felt like that was the only way for me to get even with her. then when i got out and he was calling him daddy, that was tough. >> did you blame me for that? >> no. i blamed your mama. i'm sorry that i was never a father figure. you know what i'm saying? just being your friend. i mean, i wanted it so bad because like, i'm saying,

honestly, in my heart, i didn't want you to end up here with me. i mean, you might think that i'm just saying this for the cameras, i'm for real [ bleep ] these cameras. i only did the interview for you. you feel me? i only did it so i could have this conversation. you know what i'm saying? this is affecting me way more than it's affecting you. i know that the majority of this is only because i wasn't there. >> that little bitty piece right there, this whole conversation, that was the only piece i wanted to hear. i'm no longer mad at him at all. i swear to god i'm not. now that we realize this is dead, we can get over this bridge, you know what i'm saying? get on some father and son stuff, if it's from jail cell to jail cell. you know, still possible. you know what i'm saying? if i -- if i was go get out and you had to stay in, you could still make an impression from jail. i don't know slick how. you know what i'm say -- know exactly how. you know what i'm saying? you owe me to try.

you owe me. i don't blame you for anything else. you owe me enough to put in the effort. i don't care how stubborn i am. you owe me the effort. that's all. >> wrap it up. >> yeah. >> i life you. >> i love you, too. >> i don't know really what to say. i'm satisfied, though. honnevil my heart, i ain't mad at him. ain't no hard feelings, none of that. i feel like he was sincere about it, that part of being a man, he didn't know how to do. so i know he know he's wrong. that's all that matters. if nobody else in the world knows. then i really know. i'm cool with that. i -- all right.

i didn't look to the future for anything else. i didn't think what the ramifications of what my actions would have created. i was just there for the moment, and that was it. ♪