but the results are yet to be seen. >> thank you, susie. you can join me weekdays at 12:00. rachel maddow is up next. we are coming to you live where house republicans have thrown in the towel and forced the federal government to shut down. what was expected to be a drama filled night with negotiations going right up until the very last moment did not exactly turn out that way. there has been talking right up until the last moment, but nothing that looks like working to stop this from happening. we have known for a better part of an hour now that house republicans have decided to let this shut down happen. there does not seem to be a plan for what to do next. crow your eyes, judgmemp. see what happens. there was strange theater where

republicans made funding conten jents on killing or dough raying the president's health care law, then the senate would say no. then they would send back a straight up government funding bill. and republicans would try it again, try it again and try it again right up until the bitter end. as of this hour we have no deal. one last maneuver was tried to get the senate to negotiate over their demands to kill obama kashs but the senate has rejected that manure. >> i'd like to say good evening, but it isn't a very good one. as we gather here right near stat wary hall, i'm reminded that president washington, when he was leaving office cautioned against political parties that were at war with their own government. and here we are tonight. >> now, the shut down is in effect as of now. we are advised that the office of management and budget had ordered federal departments to

execute plans for shutting down at midnight. mid now is now passed. so the execution is under way. we're told to expect sometime within the next 30 minutes possibly, more voting in the house of representatives. now if the house of representatives decide to change its tack. if the republicans in the house decide that they're going to do something now that the government has been shut down, that they have conveyed their message, that they want to do something different now, conceive bring, the shut down could be unwound, i suppose, after it has started. but at this point, we have no spes physical its about what plans like that might look like. right now the senate majority leader harry rooeid is on the floor. >> on embarrassing our president, president of the united states, they think an election's coming this november. it happened last november. he was elected by 5 million

votes over what romney got. 5 million votes. wasn't too close. so it is really too bad. madam president, i'm going to ask this consent, but i would ask that, we're going to go out tonight, come back at 9:30 in the morning. so the consent is that we're going to recess at 2:15, from 12:30 to 2:15. we're going to recess until 9:30 tomorrow morning. but i want the senators who are here on the floor to be able to talk for five minutes each. so i ask consent that when the

senate completes, it will readjourn on october first. general proceedings be held and at that time i be recognized at 9:30 and that senate recess from 12:30 to 2:15 tomorrow to allow for weekly caucus meetings. i ask before this is implemented that everyone understands that when we receive that message from the house, i hope we have it in the morning when we come in, i'll make a motion to table it as we have done two other things just the last few hours. so if there's no further business coming before the senate i ask that following the statements of senator menendez, durbin -- >> yield for a question? >> sure. >> i just asked the leader.

the government shut down, and there is nothing that we can do to keep it open. the only way to keep it open would be for the house to pass the resolution that we've already sent them, is that correct? >> that's right. it keeps the government funded. and they've had that for days now. they could do it in the way they vote in the matter of ten minutes. >> right. but nothing that we can do with this resolution that they intend to send us. >> no. they're over there negotiating with themselves, i guess. >> because until they vote for that resolution, the government will remain shut. >> they can send us a hundred other little doodads and gizmos. but the ball is in their court. the kwish, our wish is that they pass our resolution and that would keep the government open. >> it's in their court and has been in their court.

>> thank you. >> is there objection? hearing no objection, without objection, so ordered. >> madam president? >> the senator from new jersey. >> madam president -- >> what that means what harry reid has said is that the senate will adjourn until 9:30 tomorrow morning. there are a number of senators who are still at the senate. he's asked that they be recognized for five minutes. patty murray. now in terms of what's going on in the house, you heard some reference to it between schumer and reid when they were discussing it. the advice that we have from the house is that sometime between 12:30 and 12:45 am, house republicans will schedule some sort of next vote. on what they consider to still

be live. they had, before we just heard what we just heard from harry reid, the house plan had been that the house would then vote for a send time on whatever the senate sent back to them sometime between 2:00, and 2:15 this morning. that said, the senate is going to be in adjournment and not in business until 9:30 in the morning. they are planning another vote in the house sometime in the next 20 to 30 minutes, it looks like. joining us now is chuck todd, nbc chief white house correspondent. he's the host of msnbc's daily run down. it is getting a little arcane to follow. what's going on right now? >> reporter: harry reid just announced. when he comes back in at 9:30 and wants to be recognized and

whatever message the house sends over, i'll go ahead and table that. in washington speak he's saying if the house sends over this vote to go to conference or conference committee and we want to take this dispute about how to fund the government for the next 55 to 75 days, 45 to 75 days if you're going to go by november 15th or december 15th. they have two different end dates on this. he's going to strip it out again and say no, we're not going to do that. now the ball's back in your court. that's why schumer did that little thing to reenforce that. and the house still plans on doing this. this is another, another ask of the conservative wing of the house republican caucus. they are the ones suggesting to go to conference. this is not a boehner idea. this was coming -- i first heard about this at about 5:00 this afternoon, coming from some of

the conservative side of the house republican conference. so this is, again, sort of going on that front. and what i wonder is, does what reid said on the floor right now make the house leaders decide, you know what? maybe we ought to just throw-in the, we're going to have to throw-in the towel at some point. do we three it in tonight or at tomorrow morning or wednesday afternoon. i can't figure out their end game. i know that there's some house republicans who don't know what the end game is. >> to be year, you're saying that the harry reid comments that we just aired, what he said, is if you try anything else including what you've been trying, including the let's take it to conference idea, no matter what you do, other than sending a bill to cleanly fund the government, will be over as soon as it gets here. so don't bother.

>> reporter: right. and that's the power that he has as majority leader. it's not subject to fill buster. he can table it and move on. we were joking, is it ping-pong or hot potato. they've been referring to it as a hot potato. nobody wants it in their lap as the clock strikes 12:00. the reid's going huh-uh. he won't negotiate. look at that bad harry reid and all the senate democrats. i think that's gotten lost in translation after the last couple days when that wasn't their focus for the last, say, week when what they were pushing. this has been the focus for all of about what, 90 minutes. >> when you were talking about how the republicans react to what harry reid just said and when they think about well, do we throw-in the towel tonight or on be wednesday or do we try to

hold on to the towel as long as we can before we have to throw it in, do you have any sense of how their strategy changes or what their plans are once the shut down has happened, now that the shut down has happened? were they always planning on having to give up once that happened? or could this shut down go on for a very, very long time? >> reporter: it could go on for a long time. boehner's original move was he wanted to shift it away from the budget and from shut down talk and wanted to lump it all in the debt ceiling. about six hours ago i thought this is where this was headed. they'd pass a three week resolution, but lo and behold it would expire about the same time as the debt ceiling. but what they're trying to do is force the president to negotiate over the debt ceiling. he's got to negotiate over something and debt ceiling's in there too. that was the original boehner strategy. now, and this is where i think

what boehner has supposedly, what he was telling some republicans quietly, you got to pick one. if you're going, you've got to pick your poison. you're either going to try to shut down the government and make this last stand on health care or do the debt ceiling and make that the last stand on health care. you can't do both. you do both, it's politically risky to do one. you do both and they could turn the 2014 conventional wes dom totally upside down in a way they haven't anticipated. so no, i don't know what the end game is. maybe they get out of this? the next 12, 15 hours before the close of business tomorrow, suddenly there is a short-term funding resolution. but if they don't get it done tomorrow, then, you know, maybe it does last a week. >> wow. chuck todd, nbc chief white house correspondent and the host of "the daily rundown," chuck

has to get up early. i bid you good night. this just in, actually. one of the questions coming into this final day of negotiations, of course, is what would happen to members of the united states military if the government shut down, whether they might conceivably be asked to continue serving but without the paychecks that they and their families depend on. the pentagon said as recently as this weekend that that would be what would happen in the event of a shut down. today congress did pass a bill to ensure that serviceman and service women will get paid as most civilian personnel will not get paid. well, president obama signed that bill on military pay just hours ahead of the med night shut down tonight. and now, just moments ago, this is just in, the white house has released this message from president obama that is a message from president obama as commander in chief, directly to the troops. it is a video message, and here

it is in full. >> hi, everybody. as president, and as your commander in chief, i've worked to make sure you have the strategy, the resources and the support you need to complete the missions our nation asks of you. and every time you've met your responsibilities and performed with extraordinary professionalism, skill, and courage. unfortunately, congress has not fulfilled its responsibility. it's failed to pass a budget. and as a result, much of our government must now shut down until congress funds it again. secretary hagel, gem dempsey and your commander the will have more information about how this affects you and your families. today i want to speak directly to you about what happens next. those of you in uniform will remain on your normal duty status. the threats to our national security have not changed, and we need you to be ready for any contingency.

ongoing military operations, like our efforts in afghanistan will continue. if you're serving in harm's way, we're going to make sure you have what you need to succeed in your missions. congress has passed, and i'm signing into law, legislation to make sure you get your paychecks on time and will continue working to address any impact this shut down has on you and your families. to all our dod difficucivilian, the days ahead could mean more uncertainties including furloughs. you and your families deserve better than the dysfunction we're seeing in congress. your tal enters and dedication help keep our military the best in the world. that's while i'll keep working with the congress to get our government back open and you back to work as soon as possible. finally, i know this shut down occurs during the backdrop of other changes. after more than decade of

unprecedented operations, we're moving off a war footing. yes, our military will be leaner, and as a nation, we face difficult budgie itt choices go forward. i'm going to keep fighting to get rid of those across the board budget cuts, the sequester. we need a responsible approach that doles with our fiscal challenges and keeps our military and economy strong. i'm going to make sure you stay the greatest military in the world, bar none. that's what i'm fighting for. that's what you and your family the deserve. on behalf of the american people, thank you for your service which keeps us free. and thank you for our sacrifice which keeps our nation the greatest place for freedom that the world has ever known. god bless you and your family, and god bless the united states of america. >> president obama thanking the nation's service men and women

in a video released directly to the troops from him as commander in chief. essentially, the president trying to reassure service men and women that even as the federal government shuts down, he says if you are serving in harm's way, we are going to make sure that you have what you need to succeed in your missions. we are in uncharted waters as of 17 and a half minutes ago. the government is shut down for the first time in nearly two decades. there is no plan for how to restart.

. it's official. your federal government has been shut down, or as house republicans might say, mission accomplished because this was their mission from way back. details ahead.

the reason we're here today is that the speaker of the house refused to name budget negotiators in the senate republicans block negotiations. now why would you do that? because you have to compromise when you go to a budget. >> democrats have been saying for weeks that they would place the blame for a government shut down at the feet of the republicans. well, here we are. as of right now, the federal government is closed for business. what happens next? can republicans be publicly shamed into allowing the government to come back on line or are we living in a post shame world. joining us now is a

congresswoman from illinois. >> we passed that bewitching hour now. >> obviously exhausted and upset is what's going on in half the house. what is the mood like in the house? is there any expectation of any continued forward movement? or does it just feel like it's done? >> i don't feely see it. harry reid said unless there is a vote on a clean cr, continuing resolution that he's not going to negotiate. he's not going to appoint conferees. i don't see how it happens. i really don't see how it happens. >> in terms of the continued votes that are planned tonight in the house, obviously senator reid lass said unless there is that clean vote, don't bother. it will be tabled as soon as the senate comes back into session tomorrow at 9:30. it seems that the republicans

are planning on going ahead with further votes tonight, proposing a conference committee to work on differences between the bills. what's your take on that? >> well, you know, as you played in the clip, six months ago, we called the bluff of the republicans. and the senate passed a budget and the republicans have failed for since months to appoint a conference committee. at this moment, 17, 18 minutes after the government has already shut down, now they're saying they want to go to conference. for what? i mean, if we don't have some sort of assurance that the government is going to stay open, it absolutely makes no sense. harry reid, for better or for worse said we're not going to have a conference with a gun pointed at our head, so that's simply not going to happen, the thing -- you know what's breaking my heart tonight? this is completely unnecessary.

it's completely unnecessary. i was talking to some of the guards at the capitol as i was coming in, the capitol police. they said well, we have to be here tomorrow, but we don't know, we're not going to get paid until after the shut down is over. we're talking about gs-2, gs-3. people who make 20, 30, maybe $40,000 every year, and these people are going to be furloughed? they're not going to get paid up to 600,000 people? this is a disaster for them. and you were talking about the military, rachel, about 72% of the civilians that work for the intelligence community are going to be furloughed. you know who's going to be furloughed? we're not going to be able to supply the kind of personal protection for diplomats overseas in dangerous situations. does that raise the benghazi

question? people who want passports. it's going to cost it's estimated over $150 million a day to shut down the government. it's absolutely crazy. >> do you think that there is any institutional memory in the congress as an institution about the last shut down? anything about the previous times this was tried, particularly 17 years ago when we had the longest shut down in history. it was the last shut down we had. is there any institutional memory in the congress about that previous experience that's informing what people are doing now? or is this like a bunch of goldfish swimming around a tiny bowl being surprised by the castle every time? >> that's pretty much what it is. we've got, the people that are driving this shut down are people who don't have any institutional memory, and many of them, actually, have no legislative experience whatsoever. the legislative memory. so they came here on a mission

that was to shut down the government. they, a couple of them bragged about it early on. for what? you know the other thing that breaks my heart, rachel is that this is a moment where our economy could be actually leaping forward. we are at a point where we could be creating jobs. we could be in a great position right now. and instead, we're going to be seeing, i think, really tragic consequences in terms of the economy and individual american families. >> congresswoman from illinois. i hear the feeling behind what you are saying in your voice as you say it. and i know this is a difficult time and it's a lady thing. thank you. >> thank you, rachel. as tonight proved, for some congressional republicans, failure is not only an option, it is a strategy. what the congresswoman was talking about there about people coming to congress for the first

time, bragging that three were going to shut down the government and that was their goal as a brand new member of congress, we've got the evidence on that, next.

there is procedural action still scheduled in the u.s. house of representatives at this hour. now about 30 minutes past midnight on october 1st. the u.s. government is officially shut down as of midnight. but in the house, one more vote at least is scheduled for

tonight or this morning, whatever you want to call it. house speaker john boehner will have a vote on whether to have a conference committee with the senate. that's something they had said no to for months before the government was shut down. but now that it is shut down, that's their idea. the house of representatives may well be in session far into this early tuesday morning, maybe even toward dawn. whatever the results of that vote, senate it majority leader harry reid said that the senate is done for the night. so there's not going to be any resolution at least until 9:30. as you saw there, the house is still working, and the federal government is shut down. much more to come. stay with us. are you flo? yes. is this the thing you gave my husband? well, yeah, yes. the "name your price" tool. you tell us the price you want to pay, and we give you a range of options to choose from. careful, though -- that kind of power can go to your head. that explains a lot.

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when president obama was elected in 2008, he came to washington with a democrat controlled house and democrat controlled senate. we got wall street reform, health care reform, the gi bill, they reauthorized the children's

health program. they fixed the sentencing disparity for crack cocaine versus powdered cocaine. they passed the 9/11 first responders bill. they repealed don't ask don't tell they did cash for clunkers. that was all done in two years by the congress that was elected at the same time as president obama. but then in the midterms, republicans did really, really well and they took control of the house and john boehner became the speaker o er oer of instefd nancy plo pelosi. they got control of the house. they were sworn in in january 2011. since then, zero legislative accomplishment. and that is because they have been otherwise occupied. after getting sworn in in january, by april, they

threatened to shut down the government. by july, the republicans forced the first ever debts ceiling crisis. by september they were threatening another government shut down. by april the next year more threats from republicans of another government shut down. by december, republicans were pushing us over the fiscal cliff. by january, republicans were talking about forcing another crisis before they backed down, but now they have caused a government shut down, at wrong last. and this is not an accident. we are deep into year three of them running the house. and in year three of them run, the house we've had zip from them in terms of law or policy. and we are at seven and counting when it comes to can't keep the lights on failures of basic governance. and that is not a mistake. that is how they planned it. in september 2010, a few weeks

before those mid term elections where the house republicans won back majority, a republican congressman from georgia spoke to a conservative audience at a christian event, and he exor theed -- exhorted them that they were going to need it their support. he said republicans would do it again just like the last time they took power in the house after the 1994 elections. >> the government will shut down. [ applause ] >> that's what i wanted to hear. if we hold the line, if we get those courageous men and women to be part of or majority and we say look, we're in partnership with the american people.

we're listening to the american people. this is what we're going to do. if the government shuts down, we want you with us. we want you with us. we got to have you. we got to have you because later on you all will call us and say i didn't get my check. we need to make sure you're going to be with us. >> that was before the 2010 election. when we get the majority, we're going to shut down the government. we're going to need you to be with us. that was their plan from the beginning. that's what they were promising their supporters. quote, i am almost giddy thinking about a government shut down next year.

i cannot wait. that was before the 2010 election. that is what republicans were promising their base and what their base was expecting from them and then they went for it. >> we will do what we have to do to shut down the government if we have to. >> even if that were to happen theoretically, it wouldn't be as bad as people make it out. >> no. >> i really don't. >> you think shut down should being off the table? >> everything should be on the table. >> most people in my district say shut it down. this country may very well need some kind of shock therapy. >> would it be a good thing fiscally and philosophically if the government did shut down and that people would see life will go on you without the federal government for a while. >> i don't think it would hurt one bit. >> even if it means showing how serious we are. okay. government's going to have to shut down. >> liberals in the senate would

rather play political games and shut down the government instead of making a small down payment on fiscal responsibility, i say shut it down. [ applause ] >> cut it or shut it! i say shut it down, woo hoo. and within a matter of weeks, the house republicans were giving john boehner a standing ovation in their caucus meetings when he said yes, we are preparing for a shut down, that was the first one in april after they got sworn in, in january. this is what they had promised. they weren't promising any result. they were just planning on using this tactic. they used this tactic right away. they have done it repeatedly since then, threatening and getting right up to it. tonight they have succeeded. they have forced the shut down of the american federal government which they have been

threatening all this time. the point is, the tactic is the point for them. it is fun and ideal logically correct for the republican. it's a tactical insult to the idea of governance. it's perfect for the american right. this is what republicans do when they get control of any aspect of government. they've got control of one half of one branch of the government, and what they are doing with it is shutting stuff down. this is not a bug. this is a feature. they have been looking forward to this since their takeover of the house became possible in 2010. that is why whether they came out of door closed door meeting, they did not seem like they were having a somber moment. they did not seem like they were embarking on a bad thing they really didn't want to do. when they decided to do this on saturday, kind of seemed like they were psyched.

>> we're all getting behind leadership. we're excited. we're united. >> it's all good. good plan. >> who'd it go in there. >> went good, very well. >> it's great. we're shutting down the government. what could be better? reporters have been staking out the committee rooms while they've been confabbing and deciding what to do. reporters description about the mood among republicans is jarring. house republicans were ecstatic when mr. boehner and his team presented their plan. the mood was down right giddy. when republican leaders presented their plan, cheers and chants of vote, vote, vote went up. many wore beaming grins. representative john culberson of

texas said he shouted out i said, like 9/11. let's roll. let's roll, let's bring the american government to its knees. just like 9/11. except we're the other side. there's kind of a palpable glee on the republican side about this accomplishment that they have brought about tonight. they are psyched about their. and there is no mirror image between the parties. there is only one major party of the two that we've got that strives for control no government, specifically and only because that is the place from which they can hurt government the worst. they have not passed any legislation into law since having control of the house. but this is our seventh break. there's nothing about the last few weeks of political back and

forth that explains why this is happening. there's nothing about the political back and forth on the hill that explains why this is happening. there's nothing about health reform specifically that explains why this is happening. this is happening because they like this tactic. in 2011 they didn't bother about making it about health reform. for a while it was about whether your boss can block you from contraception. doesn't matter what they're using it for. it is the point that they are willing to go this far. this is what republicans do, this is what they promised to do. this is an end in and of itself, because it displays sufficient fervor. and that is why there is no talking them out of it, elect republicans, and they will burn the place down, and they like the sound of it, and they will laugh while they do it. and now we're all left to figure out what happens next.

joins us now is dave, a reporter. >> reporter: good morning. thank you for having me. >> you covered that speech in 2010 before the election. he's already asking for base support for a shut down. when were you covering that at the time was it weird in the moment? or did it seem like kind of expected rhetoric? >> reporter: in the moment it was very coherent for a lot of the reasons you laid out here. and some of the quotes you were playing before made this clear. at the time, republicans were saying they were going to shut down or willing to risk a shut down as rand paul said to make a point in sanity. originally, and this is the reason why more americans were supportive or willing to come along with that for a while, they said let's think about the

cost of government. let's have a cr that cuts $100 billion from the government. let's have a debt limit plan that cuts spending for the future and cuts entitlements. the pivot to obamacare is a pivot very far to the right where they're saying instead of using this for a fiscal goal we're going to use it to attack a program we don't like. and today, this morning, the vitter amendment, that's not even something that they've really scored to cut costs or to delay obamacare. it's just dmoer wanother way tot it. what they really used to be for, the spending cuts is really kind of stark. >> in those terms, the term that you're describing there, who pushed for that? i can imagine that's the kind of

thing some members would be wanting. is this a sign that there's not enough leadership strength to stop those impulses on the far right? >> reporter: that's definitely true. they've proved that again and again. it would be possible. and some state, it's possible for a republican speaker to make a deal with democrats. but it's very clear that john boehner would have the votes from the democrat side if he funded the government at a lower level. democrats were starting to remind people of this. the cr as it is structured is based on the sequestration spending caps which they did not like. they started arguing this would be a victory for republicans. republicans should take it. but really from the activist base, shepherded by a couple members of congress. back to the heritage action. tom graves in the house.

ted cruz in the senate. they made the argument that this was the last ditch chance to repeal obamacare and if they didn't do it they were shunning the entire base. two years ago the base was not demanding this. jim demeant voted for crs and voted for bill that is did not defund obamacare. the ability for a small number of people to put this demand onto the agenda is striking. it's not something that some of the groups that have funded them have asked for. they're a bit surprised about where it came from and how stark it is. >> agreed. you're worried about the driving skills of whoever's behind the wheel. and all of a sudden you realize that the car had two drivers or

three, or somebody who couldn't reach the pedals. it seems that we have a shift in the radicalism that got us here tonight. thank you. >> reporter: thank you, rachel.

hey, you know what else happened at midnight tonight?

the affordable care act started. beginning at midnight, the website health care.gov went live, meaning that americans seeking health inslurns were supposed to be able to log on and start getting a health care plan. depending upon where you live, your local exchange is run either by your state government or the federal government, yes, even though the federal government is shut down, the obamacare of it goes ahead. in the midst of a government shut down supposedly to stop obamacare we do have a shut down, and we do have obamacare. john boehner will reportedly address the cameras shortly after 1:00 eastern which is a few minutes from now.

even without the shut down, congress hit a new low today. the new cnn poll released today shows the disapproval of the american congress has reached a new level. the disapproval rating has hit 87%. a historic almost unimaginable number. 87% of people saying they disapprove of congress, and that poll was taken before they shut down the government, tonight with no one admitting to the fact that that's what they wanted to do. joining us is capitol hill correspondent. >> reporter: i think one of those polls vladimir putin polled higher than the u.s. congress. >> with his shirt on. i know, outrageous. can you give us the latest you've been hearing? i know the house has been voting in the last few minutes.

>> reporter: they've been voting on the issue of conferees. but as harry reid said he will table it. they were caught off guard by boehner's motion. they are going to have a press conference around 1:00. they want to continue this message. they want to see the government open and basic fairness for all americans. kind of this push of the vitter amendment. but in terms of where we go from here as we move into tuesday, the idea has always been from republicans that a one day shut down is not the end of the word. however, we've seen practically every single vehicle they could alter the health care law. now the question goes, what will they do after they've seemed to exhausted every option in trying to change the health care law. and then we get into all sorts

of exciting things. do they go to something else like keystone that's a part of the goody bag wish list? a lot of republicans i spoke to said they ultimately will see a clean cr bill on the floor, it's a matter of when we get there. no if, but when. some folks it will happen later today. i haven't heard longer than four days. so that is the good news for folks being furloughed. i haven't heard any one on the republican side saying they want this to go longer than four days. >> hearing that that is the plan and that it's that nebulous makes me worry even more. if they're still kicking around ideas that far in the week. >> reporter: it's been fascinating. this conferee's thing, i'm excited to see the articles that come out about this. because this really shocked a lot of people. >> i know we're going to be

sticking with you into the next hour as we continue to watch what happens on capitol hill. now we want to start our new special live edition of the last word. we are expecting to be hearing live from john boehner. after 1:00, this is going to be awesome. have a great night. stay with us. midnight came, and midnight went. congress did not keep the government runs. and still, amazingly, ironically, republicans did not stop obamacare. >> what a shameful day this is. >> the government of the united states of america will close. >> they're talking now about not raising the debt creeling. >> i'd like to say good evening, but it isn't a very good one. >> the president is the one who's driving the government shut down. >> the president's not willing to come to the table.