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so you can take them out less often. >> i merely jumped up, looked out the window saw upwards 40 to 50 immediately hit the ground, all laying down. >> we have been given a shelter in place on capitol hill. we're told we must stay in our offices under lockdown. >> police surrounded the vehicle, had their gun drawn, had the passenger door opened telling the person to get out. >> we heard pops, three, four, five pops probably. i don't know if they were shots
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or not. >> maximum force. capitol hill police shoot and kill the driver. she turns out to be an unarmed 34-year-old connecticut mom with a history of mental health problems, say friends, and a toddler in the back seat. we'll talk to the photographer who captured it all. business as usual after the lockdown lifted on capitol hill. a return to the shutdown stalemate. with the debt deadline fast approaching house speaker john boehner says he's done playing games. >> this morning we get "the wall street journal" out and it says, we don't care how long this lasts, because we're winning. this isn't some damn game. the american people don't want their government shut down and neither do i. >> good day, i'm andrea mitchell
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in washington. washington was already having a nervous breakdown over politics and had barely recovered from the navy yard shoot-out when a woman driving a late model infinity coupe led d.c. police on a wild 80 miles an hour chase from the white house to the capital. did that backdrop, political backdrop lead police to shoot this driver, an unarmed woman. has congress returned to normal business, whatever that is, in this fourth day of a government shutdown. joining me claire mccaskill, member of home security armed services and governmental affairs. it's a quieter day on capitol hill. first of all, where were you during all this and what are your recollections of this insanity on capitol hill today? >> i was walking down the hall immediately adjacent to the senate floor. one of the guards pulled me into the senate floor and said,
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senator, you need to come to the floor. we're going to lock down. there were shots fired. i went to the floor until it was safe to move about. i think my impressions as a former prosecutor, i'm very much in awe of the professional job our police did yesterday. there was no loss of life, other than the person who caused this very dangerous situation. the child is fine. our police officers have all survived. in the long run we really were inconvenienced for a relatively short period of time considering how reckless and dangerous obviously this mentally ill person was. >> there are questions being raised by some, and we all admire the capitol police, about whether having been so close to her, and the pictures bear that out, with their guns drawn when they went into reverse and backed out, seeing the toddler in the back seat and that she was out of the car when they were the only ones firing the shots, whether it was really necessary to shoot to kill. >> first of all, you have to understand, this is someone who
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tried to breach a barrier at the white house hitting the secret service, then goes on an 80 miles per hour chase up one of the most pedestrian laden streets in america in the heart of our nation's capital. then when surrounded with guns, no one shooting, instead of just putting her hands up and getting out of the car, she hit another police officer. you have to put yourself in the feet of those police officers and realize they were doing what their professional standards mandated under those circumstances. >> i want to also ask you about obviously the larger issue of the shutdown. what's happening to our government. here is an exchange overheard between republican senators mitch mcconnell, the minority leader, of course, and rand paul of kentucky. >> do you have a second? >> i'm all wired up here. >> i just don't see an end. i go over and over again we're
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willing to compromise. we're willing to negotiate. i don't think they poll tested we won't negotiate. i think it's awful for them to say that over and over again. >> i do, too. i just came back from a two-hour meeting with him. that was basically the same view privately as it was publicly. >> i think if we keep saying we wanted to defund it, we fought for that but now we're willing to compromise on this, we're going to win -- i think -- i know we don't want to be here but we're going to win this, i think. >> do you agree the republicans are going to win this, that strategy is working for them? >> i think the biggest problem is, i agree with speaker boehner, this isn't a game. this isn't about winning or losing. the irony speaker boehner at the top of your show said this isn't a game. i don't want a government shutdown. he's in a unique situation in our government, he could end it. he could end it in an hour from now. all he has to do is allow the house an opportunity to vote on what the senate passed. andrea, we have voted time and time again on the house proposals. we have put them on the floor
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for a vote of every senator. all we're saying to speaker boehner is allow the elected representatives in the house of representatives the same courtesy that we have given you. give him a chance to vote on our proposal if he will just allow a vote, we could end this before the sun sets today. >> there are reports -- widespread reports he has signaled republicans he's not going to let the debt ceiling become a crisis. he's not going to let the government default. what are you hearing? any back channel communications? >> i think we're all working hard. i talked to a group of republicans yesterday. i think we know the more serious issue facing our government is the notion that the united states of america, the leader of the economic world would default on its obligations. you can try to dress it up and put a bow on it and say oh, we would make interest and bond payments, last time we came close to this and lost our bond rating. that has real consequences to
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real people. higher mortgage rates, higher car payments, less economic activity, a drop in the stock market. we have got to get this done. it is time we quit allowing a small faction of one party in one house in three branches of government to bring the united states to its knees. we've got to get this done and we're all working very hard to try to get it done. >> any idea, senator, when this might end? >> we're hopeful it will end today if speaker boehner will just allow a vote. the problem is way too many people are focused on political outcomes of elections, whether it's speaker boehner's election for speaker or whether it's worried about a primary from the far right. i think the reason that the majority of the senators that are republicans voted against ted cruz is because they represent whole states. they are thinking about the good of the whole. it's time we think about the good of the whole and end this created crisis that is all about the tea party tantrum and not
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about what's good for america. >> thank you so much senator claire mccaskill. thanks for being here today. >> it's been 24 hours since members of congress had to put the shutdown aside for a lockdown. as things get back to normal investigators spreading from d.c. to connecticut to new york for clues as to why miriam carey drove into a barrier near the treasury department and sped off to capitol hill and ended up being shot by police in front of bystanders and her young daughter. joining me from capitol hill with the latest, luke russert. kelly o'donnell in the middle of it all yesterday. kelly, first to you, describe the scene because you've been through a lot on capitol hill over the years. a lockdown in place is something quite rare. >> especially andrea coming a couple weeks after what transpired at the navy yard
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where we know there was a gunman that went room by room and took out so many lives. when you get reports of gunshots on capitol hill at a time when there's very tense political drama consuming the place, it really put people on notice and they responded accordingly. we didn't know what the situation was. imagine you're in your workplace and you hear sirens glaring alert, capitol police was able to tell us this was a real situation. we knew this was something we had to respond to quickly. you see as luke described so well on msnbc tourists, visitors, people who come to the capital, one of the most welcome places in all of washington belonging to the people, both american citizens who come to visit and international tourists so regularly a part of the capitol hill community as visitors. it was a very scary time. initially no one knew the
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magnitude. no one knew what the scope of this was. early reports from the white house. the first minutes were, indeed, very tense. once authorities were able to tell us it was more isolated, the business of capitol hill began to settle down somewhat, and then people made their own judgments about whether they thought they were safe in their work locations. it's a big campus. a lot like a college campus where events in one place might be totally separate from activities elsewhere. but it was a tense time and a reminder. one more point as you remember, andrea, back in the 90s, there was another expression of violence on capitol hill that took the lives of capital police officers. so people who had been there for a while knew nothing is just a drill when it's at that point. nothing is to be taken lightly. people responded appropriately. they also gave help where they could. then thankfully it was resolved relatively quickly and in a
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contained area. andrea. >> luke, what's the vibe today 24 hours later, exactly 24 hours ago when all this started. you were looking out your window and you saw a tourist begin to hit the ground and run portfolio it was a harrowing experience, andrea. i was so startled by loud pops and bangs i heard it actually caused me to stand up. when i saw capitol hill police officers running with their weapons drawn, it was a real indicator something serious was going on. when i saw tourists hit the floor, you knew it was serious, especially when they evacuated. i think today the situation is somewhat dissipated. people feel safe. as kelly was mentioning, it is an open campus feel. it's the people's house, people's senate, people are more than welcome to come on the grounds. capitol hill police training as you saw yesterday surely did pay off. i would just sort of add in the grand context of this, we had the navy yard shooting september 16th, government shot down october 1st, this happened october 3rd, debt limit october 17th.
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that's a lot within the psyche of washington, d.c. to endure in a month. i'll throw one last thing in andrea, capitol hill police officers was medevac'd off the national mall. that gentleman has not been paid since the government shutdown, will not get paid until the government shutdown is over. quite amazing for americans to hear. >> take a pause, president and vice president went out walking. the president has canceled another -- for the third time canceled a trip to asia because of this. they went out for a lunch walk to a sandwich place. a place that offered 10% discounts to government workers because of the government shutdown and a free cookie. they took part on pennsylvania avenue. take a look. >> it's great to see you. before i order, i just want to say that part of the reason we're here is we're starving and the food here is great. the other part of it is that right now this establishment is providing a 10% discount to all
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federal workers who are on furlough. >> plus a cookie. >> plus a cookie. and that i think is an indication of how ordinary americans look out for each other. aren't obsessed with politics and aren't trying to extract concessions out of each other, they just try to make sure everybody is doing their job and that we're doing what's best for the country. right now the house of representatives has the opportunity to do the exact same thing. this furlough -- this shutdown could be over today. we know there are the votes for it in the house of representatives. as i said yesterday, if speaker boehner will simply allow that vote to take place, we can end this shutdown. a whole bunch of families not just here in washington but all across the country will have the
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certainty that a paycheck will be coming. they will be able to make their mortgage. they will be able to pay their expenses. they will be able to look after their families. we can get back to what we should be focused on every single day. that's how we make sure we have a strong middle class in this country that anybody who is willing to work hard can get ahead. when it comes to negotiations, i've said i am happy to have negotiations with the republicans and speaker boehner on a whole range of issues, but we can't do it with a gun held to the head of the american people. so reopen the government, make sure we're paying our bills, two basic functions congress has, and take your cues from folks like this who are more interested in making sure that everybody is being treated fairly and properly and less interested in scoring points.
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>> president obama and the vice president going out for lunch, a walk up pennsylvania avenue to a sandwich shop to underscore there are discounts to federal workers who have been furloughed and he wanted to take the chance obviously to talk about john boehner and the refusal to negotiate at this point on both sides. it's all about timing, being in the right place, photojournalist on capitol hill during the shutdown just as the car chase unfolded during his view finder. he captured it all, every dramatic moment. later this video here, danny joins me now. danny, one of the little inside details of this, you were not on a tripod, you were with a hand-held, holding it steady. first of all what were you thinking when you saw the car on
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pennsylvania avenue and the police with their guns drawn. >> at first i thought it was a motorcade. you've been in washington so long you hear sirens, see cars following each other. i realized quickly the motorcade was not a normal motorcade as they crashed into the barricades as the police jumped out. it was a little scary. in extinct took over and i kept shooting. >> you captured it all. you had tourists, people down on the ground. you had the car going into reverse and taking off again. just how difficult was it? i know instincts take over when you're in an emergency but still that's pretty remarkable. >> i realize that. at the time it seemed like i had a camera in my hands on and off since i was five or six years old, so it really was just in extinct. i was aiming already and they came into my frame. just a lucky camera guy. >> you and all the men and women
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in the press corps who travel with us around the world and shoot stories on capitol hill and elsewhere, we all in the business know exactly what it is you do. and what we just discovered in meeting as we were getting ready to go on the air was your dad was a legendary nbc producer ray farkas, the late ray farkas. he was amazing. you were raised with a camera for a reason. >> i clearly was. as i said, i got my first camera probably when i was 5 or 6 years old. it wasn't a video camera back then. but i was always taking pictures of some sort. >> you were raised here, in the business, your brother is at c-span. what do you make of what you experienced on capitol hill yesterday? >> you know, i've never shot anything like that certainly. i really hope i don't shoot anything like that again, though this is fun taking a little tour of media. it's a shame really that there's a woman dead now, you know, with
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clear health care issues, mental health care issues. for whatever reason i wasn't scared. i don't know why. it felt like a regular traffic stop gone bad. they didn't want to be arrested on capitol hill. when the gunshots went off i realized it was probably not a regular thing. at that point they were driving away and i felt like i wasn't in any danger at all so -- >> danny farkas, great job. thank you so much for sharing. >> thank you so much. >> great to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> frustration mounting around the country as the shutdown continues. today at a rally outside the capital, furloughed workers made it clear they want to get back to work. >> we want to work! >> we need to get back to work. >>
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. so is john boehner secretly seeking a deal. if he does, will the white house even buy it? for the latest on what is happening or not happening behind the scenes we get our daily fix from chris cillizza, msnbc contributor and host of post tv in play. all this grand bargain, deal, when there isn't time for a grand bargain. is he trying to signal he does not want this debt ceiling to become a crisis, fiscal and monetary crisis. >> yes, no question. look, a grand bargain, lets just put that aside. from a timing perspective, from a relationship perspective, from what people want to put on the table in terms of entitlement reform and revenue increases, this is not happening. i do think what john boehner had
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to say yesterday is important, basically as it was reported out telling his members he would not let the country go into default on the debt, the debt ceiling. he would, if necessary, pass a measure that raised the debt ceiling with democratic votes. remember, he did that with the fiscal cliff deal. he did it with sandy relief, hurricane sandy relief, the violence against women reauthorization. he's done it before. i think him signaling he would do it again is a very clear sign to the white house and senate democrats he wants some sort of deal. now the question is can he gets one that gives boehner enough credibility to go back to his conference and say, see, i got this. >> is there enough republican support, moderate republican support to try to give him the the backing that he needs to put something on the floor? >> you know, i think there would be, andrea. i think he can put it on the floor. the concern, a lot of people
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say, look, he can hold a vote now on clean continuing resolution. that is technically true. you have 20 republican members in support of it with what we would expect the 200 block of democrats in support of it. that would be enough of a majority and it would go right to the president. what john boehner doesn't want to do is pass something like continuing resolution or something involving the debt ceiling with less than 10% of the republican congress in support of it. i think he needs 60, 70 republican votes, something he can find somewhere between 50 and 70 republican votes for with the acknowledgement that the democratic votes are going to be the ones that put this over the top into a majority in the house. i just don't think he can do it with such a small number. of course he can do it. politically speaking i think it would be very difficult to do. >> chris cillizza, thank you very much. as the shutdown heads into its first weekend, the impact already for government closings
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by the numbers and impact coming up. 3.4 million veterans will not receive benefits if the shutdown extends for more than two to three weeks. at the fda inspections scaled back including 50% of fruits, 20% of vegetables imported from other countries. five head start programs serving 5,000 preschoolers in alabama, acc, florida, mississippi and georgia have already closed. these students in central florida will not be going back to school monday if there's no deal by the end of the weekend. >> they don't understand how it's affecting us. >> at the national institute of health's headquarters, 200 new patients will be turned away each week that the shutdown continues unable to participate in new clinical trials. in california, michelle langman, who has been diagnosed with carcinoma is waiting for a drug trial she hopes will save her life. >> i would just like to let congress know that this decision needs to be made quickly, we
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tylenol®. planning to remain in session as the government shutdown heads to the weekend. so far neither side is blinking. michael burgess, a republican from texas and joins me now. congressman, is there any give on the part of those of you who do not believe this continuing resolution should be passed clean without some changes in obama care? >> first off, thanks for having me on. >> my pleasure. >> the continuing resolution has before the 30th of september in the fiscal lapse occurred at the end of the fiscal year, there were three compromise that went over to the senate in the last week. all were rejected. the final offer was lets go to conference. that was rejected as well. that set the stage for where we are here at the end of this
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week. there have been a number of appropriations bills go over, be passed to the house and go over to the senate. they are awaiting further action. certainly the senate can take them up at any point they want. your last guests comments about the national institute of health, i hope those comments were directed to the senate because that's where the appropriations bill sits right now. >> the senate's position is, the president's position is you're not going to fund the government piecemeal take one from column a, column b. the entire government is shut down and needs to be reopened without tying it to something that was passed by congress, upheld by the supreme court and a central issue in the last -- litigated in the last presidential campaign. >> at this point the appropriations bills are being done on an individual basis. that's really the way it should be anyway. i wish it was work that had occurred this summer, both the house and senate had undertaken. they didn't, so we are where we are. i'm perfectly happy to sit up
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late in the rules committee at night and pass rules that allow bills to come to the floor of the house and send them over to the senate. mind you they are passing with ever increasing democratic margins. that's an important point to make as well. many of our democratic colleagues are anxious to see these individual bills be taken up by the senate as well. really at this point, it is the smart thing to do. the larger issue of october 16th and the debt limit, the debt crisis that is facing this country is significant and severe and no other issue -- no other issue runs the risk of rending the fabric of our republic like our unsustainable national debt. >> of course these are debts that have already been incurred by congressional action. what would happen to the speaker, to john boehner if he decided to ignore the so-called hastert rule and just go to the floor and let it be majority rule? >> well, you'll have to ask the speaker. i wouldn't want to speculate. >> what would happen inside the
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caucus? what do you think would happen to him politically. >> all i can tell you this morning the speaker told the conference he seemed pretty firm in this resolve there is no back room, there is no deal being made. what we see is what is actually happening. i'll take the speaker at his word on that. >> thank you very much, congressman. thanks for being with us today. >> thank you. >> meanwhile our friend brian williams visited the set of the "late show with david letterman" last night and shared his take on the rather absurd goings on in washington. >> this was the chaplain who started services on capitol hill this morning. listen to this. senate chapman barry black, quote, deliver us from the hypocrisy from attempting to sound reasonable while being unreasonable. that's in the opening prayer. ♪ ♪
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so how is your government shutdown viewed from around the world. a member of the foreign relations committee, very widely traveled. lets take a look at the economist cover today, which basically says this is no way to run a country. it's their take with arm wrestling between boehner, the house speaker, and the president of the united states. and thomas jefferson there on the -- on mt. rushmore does not look pleased. senator, what are you hearing from your colleagues? >> andrea, i've been spending time sitting down in person with republican colleagues reaching out to them by phone, catching them in the hallway and trying to work through with them what they see is the way out of this. one of the real kham evenings
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the republicans face they took us into a government shutdown without a clear reason why, other than a vague hope they would succeed in stopping the affordable care act, which was never going to happen. now, days into this shutdown, 800,000 workers all over this country furloughed and angry. we've got folks, republicans and democrats hearing from our home state how upset they are. i was on the phone with commanding general of our national guard and the colonel who commands dover air force base. these are professionals. these are soldiers. they are challenged by leading folks who are deeply discouraged and upset at being furloughed and having no predictability about when the government will get back to work and they will be able to get back to actively serving our nation. >> and with the shutdown the president has now canceled for the third time canceled a trip to asia. other crisis intervened the last times. this means he will not be at a summit with a chance to sit down
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with putin sit down with xi jing ping in china when we have iran, syria, issues to talk about with these leaders. how does this look to the rest of the world. >> to focus on this aspect of it, i'm someone on the foreign relations committee works hard to promote democracy around the world. i've heard from foreign leaders and foreign ambassadors this really undermines our ability to be the world's model of democracy when our congress and our government gets shut down over a very simple short continuing resolution. i'll remind you we're shut down at the moment because of the reckless and irresponsible actions of just a few members of the house. what we're failing to pass is a six-week continuing resolution, a very brief resolution. if speaker boehner would just allow it to come to the floor would quickly be passed by members of the house.
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we're pricheventing our preside and diplomats from engaging with the rest of the world. we heard how the folks responsible for implementing sanctions on iran are in part on furlough and that is putting our nation at greater risk. >> there's a couple of other foreign relations, the buildup of training out of the benghazi disaster a year ago, that is shut down. all that training is not happening. you mentioned the iran sanctions. also the people who are in the cia, 70% according to general clapper, director of national intelligence, 70% of our cia analysts have been furloughed. >> that's right, andrea. at a hearing of the judiciary committee earlier this week, i was questioning general alexander and director of national intelligence clapper who said more than 70% of the civilian workforce of the intelligence committee is currently on furlough. i heard from a delawarean, a
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patriot working for the nuclear regulatory commission, he's responsible for proactive training and oversight. there are inspectors in place in our nuclear power plants in the united states today. he wanted to make sure i realized as of next week they will begin furloughing all the folks who do proactive and long-term preventive maintenance then and training. as our teams overseas are at risk, our intelligence community is increasingly unable to look ahead to all the different risks we face around the world. here at home we've got federal agencies like nuclear regulatory commission, which folks may not think of day in and day out, part of what is most irresponsible about how the house is acting today, sending piecemeal bills, fund little pieces, we're asked to choose between our children, choose whether to support veterans or continue to send out medicare checks to hospitals, put back in the field nrc trainers or
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whether we would next take up embassy security. we should be getting the entire federal government back to work and we should be going to conference the process and rules we're supposed to follow. we passed six months ago and the budget committee tried 18 times to go to conference to hammer out fiscal differences as we should instead of making up these rules as we go along, the few republicans objecting to that should get out of the way and allow us to get the government back to work and get the conference to negotiate responsibly our fiscal differences. >> senator, i know you're giving up your paycheck and your offices back home are closed. that's your little sacrifice. we know there's a lot more sacrifice going on around the country. thank you very much for making those points. >> thank you. >> yet another government shutdown, this perhaps quite so serious. a skeleton of a tyrannosaurus rex dead for maybe a million
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the kidnapping in 2002 of elizabeth smart from her home captivated and frightened the nation. four years later elizabeth smart has written a book called "my story." she shared painful details about the kidnapping speaking about
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the kidnapping and her life since. >> i remember him forcing me onto the ground, fighting the whole way. when he was finished, he stood up, and i was left alone feeling absolutely broken, absolutely shattered. i was broken beyond repair. >> you were worthless. >> i was going to be thrown away. >> joining me nbc special correspondent meredith vieira. meredith, this is an extraordinary story. tell me about elizabeth smart and the strength she had and also how this damaged her. >> amazing strength. she spent nine months in captivity and she described her days as hunger, boredom and rape every day brian mitchell raped her and wanda made her her slave. that first night when she was raped, that first night she wanted to die. in fact, she said to me she thought about other children who
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had been assaulted and killed and felt they had it better than she did because they were in a better place. she quickly decided she didn't want to die, she wanted to run, realized she couldn't probably escape from the camp. the next day was shackled. she finally said i'm just going to survive. she spent those nine months in survival mode. she had several opportunities where she did come in contact with people. eventually they unshackled her to go down to salt lake city with them, basically to steal food. she was so scared. she said if you ever open your mouth and say anything we'll kill you. that's what they told her. she's 14 years old and she believed them. she missed opportunities. when i asked her, she said you should never question a victim about what they did or didn't do. she became the most agitated,
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said she found those kind of questions from people to be the most offensive. >> understandably. trying to understand how she had the strength to go on with life. what kind of life does she have now? >> she has a wonderful life. she has her own foundation, advocates for children, fights for legislation to protect kids for going through what she ever went through. she got married to a gentleman from scotland, also a mormon. they are a couple of faith. they are planning to have children. she said in the past years she's moved on from brian david mitchell, never has nightmares about him. i asked her. no, she never once had a nightmare. during her captivity it was sleep she could escape from these people. she thinks of sleep as a safe place for her. >> why did she write the book? >> she said to me, it's been 10 years. she's processed this and started thinking about all these children, one out of every four girls and one out of every six
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boys assaulted or abused. she wanted to tell her story in detail for the first time to let them know they are not alone. no matter what they go through or have been through, as horrific as it might be, feeling you're shattered forever, which is what she felt, you can come out of it with help of family and friends and therapy, you can come out of it and be whole again. she wanted to send that message particularly to children. >> so uplifting. as horrifying as it is, you've brought out the best in this. we really look forward to it. meredith, great to see you. >> you, too. >> the program tonight, meredith's interview with elizabeth smart airs at 10:00, 9:00 central, elizabeth's story. twenty-four couples who planned to wed at monuments on the national mall found there's nothing romantic about a government shutdown. this couple were set to shut
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down this weekend on the memorial. >> i wasn't worried about a shutdown. i was worried about rain. >> who knew. plan b turned out to be a wedding they never could imagine. officiated by stephen colbert on television, kiss the bride. yeah! keep going, man. . feather it ou. (dad) all right. that's ok. (dad) put it in second, put it in second. (dad) slow it down. put the clutch in, break it, break it. (dad) just like i showed you. dad, you didn't show me, you showed him. dad, he's gonna wreck the car! (dad) he's not gonna wreck the car. (dad) no fighting in the road, please. (dad) put your blinker on. (son) you didn't even give me a chance! (dad) ok. (mom vo) we got the new subaru because nothing could break our old one. (dad) ok. (son) what the heck? let go of my seat! (mom vo) i hope the same goes for my husband. (dad) you guys are doing a great job. seriously. (announcer) love a car that lasts. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru.
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let's reflect on what happened in washington in the previous 24. >> there are reports of shots fired near the capitol. >> we've given a shelter in place order on capitol hill. we're told we must stay in our offices under lockdown. >> i heard three or four distinct, boom, boom, boom. [ gunshots ]
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>> an ambulance that is now responded. >> this incident actually started outside the white house where the driver of this black car tried to breach security there. >> cops said get behind the car. we did that. a couple minutes said come back. they told us to run back and come to this building. >> chris is back with us. it was an extraordinary 15, 20 minutes, 24 hours ago. now they are back to normal, whatever normal is, and what we heard from congressman burgess and claire mccaskill, there are now backdoor talks going on. >> a scary interlewd there, but we in many ways we ended where we started it, which is they are just not really talking at this point and republicans seem to be
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looking more for a way out and john boehner floating the idea that he will pass a debt ceiling increase with democratic votes, floating that idea and then democrats standing firm on particularly president obama not negotiating. they are not talking. this goes back to something you and i talk about three times a week. there is a lack of relationships at that level. john boehner and barack obama, john boehner and harry reid. there's just not a warmth of barack obama in congress generally, democrats and republicans. so that complicates what is already going to be a difficult policy and political fight, the lack of sort of trust that exists, that's always been the core of how these things ultimately got done and it's just not there. >> chris, the president will have a lot of time to call them over for chats because he's not going to asia this weekend. that does it for us for this edition of quts andrea mitchell reports." msnbc will follow every detail
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of the shutdown and any negotiations that take place, you'll have it here. follow the show at mitchell reports on twitter. >> hi, andrea, have a great weekend. new information on the mother who led police on the deadly chase through the nation's capitol, including the delusions investigators say may have driven her to those actions. plus, we'll have an update on her child. capitol hill police applauded for their quick response in the middle of the shutdown, what they say they are worried about next when it comes to protecting our nation's capitol. in the past hour, the white house said it would sign a republican bill having to do with the shutdown but nothing else. as both sides stick to their positions, a new report says gop donors are furious and ready to hold their money. will that make a difference? wendy davis kicks off her campaign to be the first democrat to lead texas in nearly two decades. will the enthusiasm surrounding
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responsibility. what's your policy? right now on "news nation," new details about the woman shot dead by capitol hill police and why she may have tried to ram her car through a white house barrier. >> this morning we get the wall street journal out and it says we don't care how long this lasts because we're winning. this isn't some damned game. the american people don't want their government shut down and neither do i. >> if it's not a game, what is it? the battle over the message in day four of the government shutdown, house speaker john boehner demanding the white house negotiate over obama care. the president vowing to veto anything except a clean bill. plus, bracing for karen,