♪ faction of the republican party ends up forcing them into [ male announcer ] some things are designed to draw crowds. brinksmanship to see if they can ♪ somehow, you know, get more from negotiations by threatening to ♪ shutdown the government or threatening america not paying its bills. others are designed to leave them behind. >> in the meantime, the house just voted unanimously to ♪ guarantee back pay for furloughed workers once the government reopens. the all-new 2014 lexus is. nbc's luke russert is on capitol hill and joins us from there it's your move. once again. luke, good afternoon. welcome back. >> how are you? you see the gray. >> i'm good, thanks. try root touch-up by nice 'n easy. the house is heading home for just brush our permanent color matching creme the weekend but the senate buy right where you need it. then rinse. gan its session an hour ago. what's next for the legislation? in ten minutes zap those grays and get on with your day. >> so this legislation most likely will be voted on monday nice 'n easy root touch-up. by the senate. it's even possible it could be done by unanimous consent, which with reverence. is the body agrees all federal workers should get retro lord, look at us and hear our actively their pay for the time they missed during the shutdown. a striking break from the a lot of federal workers were norm on capitol hill this hour. worried this wasn't going to congress passes one part of a happen because there's been such spending bill unanimously. an appetite to cut spending from house republicans.

does that mean an end to the house republicans are no big shutdown soon? fans an of the federal workforce they are heartbreaking and real. ordinarily. so there was a lot of fear of the stoirs of those already that amongst them. affected by the government but this is quite a bipartisan shutdown. will any of this make congress move quicker? new information today on the moment. a bill passed unanimously in the house and the workers will get motorcycle road rage incident in new york city. their pay retroactively. we've seen the house pass how might six cops be correct connected to that intercept? piecemeal bills, things like what happened to karen. >> she's still going to hit the funding nih, things like trying southeast coast. but will she pack any punch. to fund the national parks, a live report just ahead. things like funding the basic operations of washington, d.c. they're going to continue on that strategy next week by working with things sort of funding the fda, funding head hello, everyone. start. trying to put democrats in this it's high noon in the east, 9:00 difficult position of voting in the west. welcome to "weekends with alex against popular government programs. witt." but democrats are saying look, we don't want to pit one program i'm mara sigh vo campo. against another. st. paul day five of the we want to funds all of them. shutdown and two big just bring a clean bill to the developments this hour. first a new interview from floor. from where we are right now, president obama with his take on mara, if a clean bill to fund the shut down stalemate and that the government went to the floor, it would pass. creep towards that october 17th debt ceiling deadline. there is bipartisan support for that. just from everything cans i've had with republicans today, >> just as it true with the you're starting to see a little

government shutdown, there are bit of the break in the line enough votes in the house of from folks who think there's no representatives to make sure point having the government that the government reopens shutdown when the real fight is the debt limit coming up october today. and i'm pretty willing to bet that there are enough votes in the house right now to make sure 17th. this has become all about that the united states doesn't posturing. it will be interesting to see end up being a deadbeat. how it plays out early next week. the members here are gone till the only thing that's preventing that from happening is speaker 6:308 p.m. on monday. they could be called back at anytime at a moment's notice. boehner calling the vote. the business of washington, d.c., tomorrow will be a >> meantime, texas senator john football day for members of the cornyn, delivered the gop weekly congress and they're back at it address. on monday. >> the democrats have calculated we'll still be shutdown more likely than not. >> luke russert, thanks so much. that by prolonging the shutdown and maximizing the pain, they while congress debates the shutdown, american who's rely on can bully republicans into doing the federal government for everything from their paycheck whatever president obama and to vital health care are suffering. for many, time is not something majority leader reid want them to do. it's a very cynical game. they can afford. >> cancer patient michelle was >> the other big development, hoping she would be approved for the house has passed a bill a clinical trial at the nih guerin teeing federal workers hospital this week. will receive back pay once the she's concerned her chances will government reopens. that vote was 407-0. dim if the shutdown continues. the white house has signaled its >> when you're given a terminal support, unlike other piecemeal diagnosis, each month counts.

legislation offered by the gop, >> josh and laura hail have five this one stands a chance of passing the senate. girls and zero pay. bowing are on furlough from write patterson air force base >> finally, a moment of decency. outside dayton, ohio. >> just because our paycheck finally, we turn to the men and stopped doesn't mean the bills stopped. they're still trying to recover women whom serve our country, from losing six days pay each 00,000 federal employees who are because of the sequester. >> even if they end up getting furloughed and we do something decent for them. reimbursed for the time off, >> having a bill like this where it's too late. you know, we need money now. we come together in a bipartisan >> joining me now from capitol way, we can reduce some level of hill is congress mann frank pallone, democrat from new jersey. thanks so much for your time frustration, we can give some this afternoon. level of peace of mind to those >> thank you. >> i just want to ask for your reaction to what you just heard how real people are suffering employees. through this. >> for more now, i'm joined by >> there's no question about nbc's luke russert on capitol that. many federal employees are -- or hill. good afternoon, luke. most federal employees are so, just what is going to happen furloughed, not sure they're going to get their paycheck. with this legislation now? now we've passed this bill. where does it go from here? that gives them some relief >> so d.c. for once worked but the bottom line is having a today. there was a lot of anxiety negative impact on the economy amongst furloughed federal and confidence in our economy is workers, over 00,000 of them, disappearing. so we need to get this whether or not they would be government open. able to res tro actively. look, the bottom line is 200

the house voted today democrats including myself have signed a letter saying they want unanimously they would be able to. that was not a guarantee ten government open with a clean days ago when more conservative resolution. and there are at least as many members were questioning whether they should pay workers for days republicans that could make a majority in the house to do. they did not work. i'm just saying look, this move onto the senate and mr. speaker, please just bring then to the president's desk. up the clean bill. and this really does alleviate a we can negotiate and talk about lot of the concern that federal the budget or other issues workers had about their later. but there's absolutely no reason livelihoods. now, it's retroactive. for the republican leadership and speaker boehner not to just so they don't get paid bring up the clean bill so we immediately. a lot of them have to live off can reopen everything and not do savings till the shutdown is this piecemeal approach. over. but to know on the horizon >> in a lot of cases of you'll get all the money that political gridlock, you know would have been owed to uh-huh there are behind the scenes been able to work every day, i negotiations going on. at least there's progress there, think a lot of americans in that whether or not it's being predicament are breathing a sigh relayed publicly. we're hearing from our sources of reeve. even that is not taking place >> luke russert, thanks so much. right now. where do you see this ending? for more, i'm joined by how long do you see this someone with an insider's view, dragging on? >> obviously, because the democratic congressman, adam speaker sent us home until schiff, member of the monday at 6:30, nothing's going appropriations and intelligence committees. thanks so much for being here. to happen till monday after your democratic colleagues announced a plan yesterday to 6:30. i'm hoping when members do go force a vote on a clean spending home, they hear from their

bill using something called a constituents particularly the discharge petition. how would that work and how republicans obviously who are in the majority and they come back likely is it you'll move forward and agree to do this clean bill with that? on monday. >> the way this petition works obviously, the earliest that we is if the speaker or leadership can reopen now is going to be or committee chair won't bring a monday. but again, i can't stress bill to the floor, if you get a enough, i mean, i know there majority of members signing a definitely are some republicans petition, you can discharge it and clearly most democrats that from committee and force a vote on it. just want this clean bill and that takes about a week though and none of us want to wait a then we can you know, figure out later you know, while the week. at the same time, for the government reopens we can republican members who have been saying they support a clean bill negotiate the budget or other issues. but right now, the speaker and to open the government again, the republican leadership are this really will put him to the not willing to do that. test. are they just saying that for i really don't understand why not. it makes no sense at this point. consumption back home or do they >> you're the ranking member of really mean it. the subcommittee that oversees if they really mean it, they'll medicaid, the food and drug sign the petition and we can be administration, the national guaranteed this will end at institutes of health and the least on a day certain. centers for disease control. how do you respond to criticisms >> of these piecemeal punding that the house is picking and bills, you've said let's be choosing which programs and honest what the house leadership agencies to fund, for example, is saying. nih. we will choose which agency of >> well, again, i think that the the government we will release. republican leadership in as we just reported the house deciding to just pick and choose approved this bill for back pay what they want to fund, it's not of federal workers. the way you operate a why do you think this piece of government.

we've already passed laws legislation got unanimous basically that say, for example, bipartisan support. >> this wasn't a piecemeal that there have to be food opening of the government or picking and chooses can of safety inspections and certain procedures carried out by the agencies we should let release one hostage at a time. fda, you know, for drugs, for this was instead letting furloughed workers have the approval of drugs. the nih research programs. peace of mind knowing they're these should continue. going to get paid once the there's not a funding issue shutdown is over, they get paid here, mara, because the packet of the matter is that speaker he so they can tell those they're working with or owe bills to or will pel has already agreed to their mortgage company, i will the numbers that the republicans want, are at least on a be able to pay this bill. so you know, i think on a temporary basis. you know, to reopen the government. bipartisan basis, all the so i just don't understand why members recognize that's a moral the republican leadership is obligation and the decent thing putting, you know, cancer to do, but it doesn't change the patients, other people who are fundamental predicament we're in research programs, those in. this isn't at the president looking for nutrition programs, alluded a fight between democrats and republicans. this is a fight between head start, veterans, all at republicans and other risk. it doesn't make any sense. republicans, and predominantly there's nothing accomplished by that's a fight within the house. this continued shutdown because we have an ironic situation we've agreed on most things in where a speaker that has been terms of the budget. talking about the hastert rule and we can continue to all year, that being a rule negotiate. but we don't need to have the he'll be governed by a majority government shutdown in the meantime. of the majority party, that is it's like hostage taking. the gop has now moved to a place it's not accomplishing anything on the republican side. where the rule is the minority >> all right, congressman,

thanks so much for your time of the majority, the tea party this afternoon. we appreciate it. >> thank you. we want to know how the is really calling the shots in the house. government shutdown is affecting part of that is driven by the you. you can tell us by simply fact that a lot of the nontea sending us a short video party members run in desperate response using the #don't shut fear they'll have a tea party me down. challenge if they support now to the latest on tropical reopening the government. but we need the mainstream gop storm karen as it closes in on the gulf and could make landfall basically to run their own house as early as tonight. tropical storm warnings and and put up this bill and the state of emergency issued for president's right. some states in the path. if we took up a bill to fund the joining me now for the latest on all of this is nbc meteorologist government today, it would have passed overem whenningly. bill karins. >> this week we heard from jam bill, karen weakened overnight. clapper, director of national where do things stand right now? intelligence in a hearing on >> it's trying a little bit to wednesday. let's quickly listen to what he get more rain bands wrapped had to say. >> this is a dreamland for around it. there's too much dry air. foreign intelligence service to this is different image than i recruit, particularly as our normally would show. employees already, many of whom you. subject to furloughs driven by an x-ray of the atmosphere, how much moisture. these are called tropical sequestration are going to having i believe even greater storms. they need humid air. when you see the blue and white, that's the humid air. financial challenges. look at the red, that's the >> do you believe that this shutdown is creating national drier coming off of texas. security issues? this storm is sucking in the dry >> absolutely. air. they can't exist like that. and it's everything from having

to furlough all the analysts the right said has the tropical air, the left side the dry air. that work for the intelligence agencies. that's not a healthy system. it's also we're learning those that are work on sanctions on iran to keep the financial actually, the dry air has been winning out and it's been pressure on iran are being weakening. that's not going to change. furloughed. so it has definite national finally great news for the gulf security implications. coast. right now, you can see there are and it's not enough to say well, some rain bands out there. it's not like going to be let's just try to fund the intelligence analysts because completely dry. one of the things that we have this will move along the gulf coast over the next 24, 36 done over the last several years is try to make sure all the hours. waves will be up. intelligence agencies and bands of rain, maybe localized domestic agencies talk to each other so you have the fbi flooding at worst. talking to the department of this forecast is very minimal homeland security, talking to the nsa, talking to cia so that impacts. that's great news out of the region. we connect the dots. the much bigger storm that caused so many more problems is you can't basically say we're the one in the midwest now going to fund certain dots and heading up through south dakota. not others without having a real we heard got some new pictures problem in terms of our ability in. i've been waiting to see these to detect threats against the from wayne nebraska. country. this happened last night about >> secretary kerry said this morning that while the shutdown 8:00 p.m. this was a big tornado that went is not a sign of "weakness," it through. report at one point to be 1 to does hurt the message that the u.s. sends to the rest of the 2-mile wide tornado. you can see some of the world when we "capital get our destruction and devastation there. own act together." looks like it went through a how do you think this is tractor yard and farm equipment affecting foreign policy and our image on the global stage? manufacturing plant there. you can just see some of the

>> i think it's a terrific destruction. the mayor of wayne has already embarrassment and more than said a couple million dollars that, when the president of the united states can't go on the worth of damage there. trip to asia to meet with some those look like some of the combines there for the fields. of our allies in the region they just tossed a lot of them because he's got to stay here around and some of the buildings because we have a dysfunctional in the background there. you can see how rural of an area government, i mean it really it was. it could have been a lot worse. makes us look ridiculous. and it's so painful to watch just missed the downtown portion of wayne by about two miles. because it's so completely so what else do we have to worry about today? unnecessary. and beyond the impact it's we will see additional storms. thankfully the snow is almost having around the globe on our over with. you still can't drive interstate reputation is the fact that our economy still hasn't fully 90. out toward rapid sti, they had recovered. i'm convinced that if we weren't 31 inches of snow. that's like up to here. going through these every other i've seen pictures an of snow month manmade artificial crises drifts halfway up doors. our economy would have recovered it's like 90 degrees in d.c. today. a long time ago. so americans are paying a real the only other thing is we have to watch out for more storms price. our credibility around the world is paying a real price. today but nothing like the tornadoes from yesterday. our security is impaired. >> all right. meteorologist bill karins, and it's all so completely unnecessary. thanks so much. the white house strategy in >> and when it comes to that, the midst of this government the issue of it being shutdown. what are administration insiders unnecessary, that this could be saying? that's coming up next. get paid to do something worked out, you hear republican you really love, what would you do?" talking points that it's really the democrats refusing to ♪ negotiate on anything. [ woman ] i'd be a writer. what's your response to that? [ man ] i'd be a baker. >> i think you see some of the

[ woman ] i wanna be a pie maker. republicans saying that [ man ] i wanna be a pilot. publicly. [ woman ] i'd be an architect. what you hear them almost all what if i told you someone could pay you saying privately, in fact, i had one of my california republican and what if that person were you? colleagues mention you know all ♪ that stuff you democrats say about us? when you think about it, well this time, it's really isn't that what retirement should be, true. the mainstream members of the paying ourselves to do what we love? gop in congress won't say ♪ publicly but will say privately, this is an internal problem of theirs. they've let the tea party hijack the show. senator ted cruz is the new speaker of the house and is calling the shots. and now publicly they want to make this a democrats versus republican thing and don't want to air their dirty laundry. the reality is that this is an intragop fight. until that fight is resolved, our government's going to stay closed. >> we will be speaking with some of your republican colleagues later in this hour. we'll ask them about that. congressman, thank you so much for your time. a triple threat of wind, snow and rain across parts of the country. in wyoming and south dakota, the problem is snow, as much as three feet fell in some areas.

also in south dakota and in nebraska and iowa, tornadoes caused significant damage to neighborhoods, minor injuries were reported. and along the gulf coast, a sigh of relief for tropical storm karen, a storm that lost much of its steam. meteorologist bill karins is here for the latest on na. what can we expect from karen now? >> karen is the one that gets all the buzz because it's something in the tropics in the gulf of mexico where some of our worst storms in history have been. this one never got its act together. a lot of dry air got into it. these storms need the humid rich air. this is funny. this is the radar. there's not many showers in southern louisiana right now, but the storm is heading for the louisiana coast. it should move in later on tonight and again, you'll see bands of rain and gusty winds. you're not going to see flooding. you're not going to see much wind damage if any. the storm will track from southern louisiana kind of parallel in the coast a little bit. even and mobile, panama city get gusty winds. waves up a little bit at the baeps. we're not talking about anything

that would make you significantly change your plans. we showed you the tornadoes. how impressive were thoses? some were a mile wide. thankfully, they missed most towns. i say most because the town of wayne, nebraska, did get hit. they did have a couple injuries there, too. the mayor says over $1 million worth of damage. again, they were concentrated last night. who's at risk today? this afternoon? that's one of the ones that was about a mile wide, that one you saw there. that was one that was weakening as it picked up debris and tossed in the air. that was in the nebraska vicinity. who's at risk today? if you have outdoor plans, really from the midwest from chicagoing to st. louis all the way to indianapolis, a line of strong storms will roll through today. and when that happens, go inside for a quick half hour. the other thing that we have to watch this weekend is the winds, mara, are really strong and gusty. it's very hot in southern california. they're very afraid of any fires. that's the catch, right? if you get the wind situations, if the fires don't form, no big

deal. if one forms, we could be talking about mass evacuations and a huge blaze. fingers crossed there. >> keep your eye on the fire condition. bill karins, thanks so much. it's day five and both new development haves today president obama and congress are in the shocking road age in washington today. incident here in new york city. but there's no apparent progress police have just released in ending the government pictures of this man, they shutdown anytime soon. believe slashed the tires of the joining me now, msnbc suv and assaulted the victim contributor and political editor for the grio, perry bacon junior after surrounding and then chasing him through new york and msbc political analyst, city streets. police say they're also investigating whether as many as jonathan alter. six off duty officers were part jonathan i should mention is of the motorcycle club. also the writer of. in the meantime, the man seen using his helmet to break a >> the center holds. obama and his enemies. window of the suv has there's the cover, of course. surrendered and is being make sure you get it. questioned by police. he is not yet being charged. jonathan, i want to start with however, another biker has been you. step back and me your assessment arrested and charged. where we are right now. well, who getsing hurt the does it seem we're any closer to resolution? most in the government shutdown? do white house insiders think coming up, some personal stories there's any light here? that are sure to upset you. >> not really. things are still at a stalemate. and a new legal fight for jodie arias. but there are some indications why her lawyers don't want you to see video like this during of where it might and i really the retrial for her sentence. have to stress might because it's a guessing game now, might

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washington where somebody makes a gaffe, which is saying the truth which it is a game. they are playing a very deadly game of poker. and then everybody on both sides has to claim no, it's not really a game. the bottom line here is that it's day five of the john boehner got more than he government shutdown. and new today, within the last bargained for. he's in a very tough position hour, the house passed a measure because if he doesn't figure out making sure 800,000 federal a way out of this, he could lose his speakership. workers on furlough will get this is the most important thing back pay when the government to him. reopens. also today, president obama mara, this is what a lot of giving a new interview about the people i think haven't fully shutdown standoff. specifically the tea party's understood. politics is personal. john boehner was booted out of the republican leadership in 199 role. >> my concern has less to do with the tea party per se or the . it was very humiliating for him. particular positions that they take on issues. his worst nightmare is he can't hold this caucus together and but rather it's this idea that that after the dust settles, if they don't get 100% of their they throw him out of the way, they'll shut down the speakership and humiliate him once more. government or they'll threaten so everything he's doing is to economic chaos. that has to stop. protect his own skin. i wish i could say that he was >> joining me now staff writer acting in a patriotic fashion, for the hill newspaper, elise but he's just not. vee beck and white house it's clear that he went back on

reporter for the "washington post" david knack i mora. a couple of deals that he made thank you both for your time in september that would have this afternoon. >> thanks. prevented this. >> david, in his new interview he went back on them because he with the associated press, the president said he would be couldn't hold his caucus, the "happy to talk to republicans white house likes to say john about the health care law, the boehner can't even deliver a budget, the deficit." pizza, and there is some truth this after weeks of firmly to that, he cannot can be stating that he would not negotiate on some things. deliver those republican votes because he has these radicals in so do you think this softened tone is in response to what his party. so we'll see whether he can we've been hearing from republicans that repeatedly finesse all of this. they've been trying to paint the i don't envy him but don't think he's showing real strength and president as unreasonable and character at this moment. immovab >> perry, the house earlier immovable? >> i think there's -- what they're saying there's two today passed a measure to guarantee back pay to furloughed different things going. federal employees. this is a debate about changes to the health care law to make it easier for people to enroll. harry reid actually responded to that saying house republican that debate has to come after republicans had put workers on a the debt limit is raised by october 17th. paid vacation that could cost the white house is still holding firm to the idea they're not more than had sandy did. going to roll the first of hose into the second. and i think what the president workers don't want to be without a paycheck and don't want to be made clear again in that interview even though he says furloughed. where does this legislation go he's open to bigger debates from here? >> it's going to pass in the later is that he's going to stand firm. senate. he suggested in the interview, i was surprised senator reid it was very tell it go he had said that. federal workers are losing pay right now and will get it back.

read john boehner's comments in i expect the senate will pass this on monday. private to other members that i think he, while disagreeing he's not willing to let default with the tacticing will happen. it had been reported that the ultimately agree with the strategy. i want to add unwith thing about house wos eventually maybe vote the republicans and boehner. on a bill that required support one challenge they face in their from democrats. i think the president is trying to put pressure on republicans districts, a lot of republican that way. voters are behind the strategy. >> elise is, noa elise, this is i talked to a member yesterday who said the calls to his office were eight to one in favor of this shutdown over of obama care approach. this is a member who thought the piecemeal funding measure. strategy was stupid himself but why is this one different? felt like he was being pushed by >> i would echo what the representative you just his public and his district that interviewed said. it's basically a and to federal the tea party in particular to be behind this. worker are in trouble during the he felt he couldn't say publicly shutdown. this is a bad idea because of both parties came together in the fact that he got a push from order to say listen, we want to the conservatives in his own make sure the shutdown, when it district. >> jonathan, i saw you nodding. stops, doesn't continue to have what's your response? an effect on the people who had >> they created a frankenstein nothing to do with the causes. which is now biting them. so i think that's why they were it's true. i don't think it's the majority able to come together. of republican districts but a we're expecting is the senate to pass the bill very shortly. significant number of them, they've been fed this steady it isn't really a bill to reopen diet from the rush limbaugh and the government in this piecemeal the rest they actually way. what it is is lessening the believe -- ted cruz.

effects on federal workers as they actually believe there's a has been done in the past. chance, you know, of defunding nobody wants to see those people hurt because the shutdown had obama care. not only is there not a 1%ence nothing to do with them. >> david, at least 138 lawmakers cha, there's not even a 0% say they plan to donate or chance. it simply is not going to refuse pay during the shutdown. happen. they're living in a dream world. almost half of the 535 members of congress are millionaires. and this is the product of what's happened over the last their net worth is $966,000. compare that to $66,740 for a several years where a minority of a minority is acting as if typical american family and in many cases, even their own staff they can prevent majority rule which is what this country was members don't make that much founded on. money. so does this carry much weight >> all right. jonathan alter, and perry bacon, when they say they're going to donate their salaries, refuse thanks so much for your time this afternoon. them, or does it ring hollow to a new movie on the jfk the public? assassination hit theaters last >> makes a symbolic point. night. but why is this one different the president was asked if he from all the rest? would do so and jay carney said the producer and director of that's not the issue. "parkland." joins us next. across america people are taking charge i don't think it's a surprise money plays a big role in getting people elected. he folks who are wealthy in the government. most federal workers are concerned about what's going to happen. they want to go back to work.

it's not like a big vacation to them. to echo what elise said, one thing that this vote does today is it allow sort of lessen the pressure to open the government because they say look, we're going to take care of you afterward. i think what's going to happen, you'll see now this fight over the budget into the debt of their type 2 diabetes with non-insulin victoza®. ceiling. we're headed to an october 16th showdown. it's unlikely anything is going for a while, i took a pill to lower my blood sugar, to get resolved despite congress but it didn't get me to my goal. being open right now, potentially negotiating. so i asked my doctor about victoza®. you saw the white house chief of he said victoza® is different than pills. staff on the other day. there are negotiations, there victoza® is proven to lower blood sugar and a1c. are talks, maybe not negotiations, how to get this it's taken once-a-day, any time, and comes in a pen. done. it doesn't look likely anything's going to happen till and the needle is thin. the last minute. the get ready for a long monday victoza® is not for weight loss, but it may help you lose some weight. night. >> elise, your latest article is victoza® is an injectable prescription medicine titled "gop slams scheduled that may improve blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes maintenance on obama care site." the gop has been seizing on the when used with diet and exercise. it is not recommended as the first medication within site problems as a sign the law isn't working. to treat diabetes is that a fair indicator of and should not be used in people with type 1 diabetes success less than a week of these exchanges being open? or diabetic ketoacidosis.

>> certainly the obama victoza® has not been studied administration and i.t. experts with mealtime insulin. would say no. when you're rolling out a new victoza® is not insulin. do not take victoza® if you have a personal or family history of medullary thyroid cancer, website, it needs time to work, time to figure out glitches. multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, the administration said it was because, 8 million people tried or if you are allergic to victoza® to come to healthcare.gov and or any of its ingredients. open accounts this week. symptoms of a serious allergic reaction may include: that's why we saw so many problems. swelling of face, lips, tongue, or throat, fainting what happened yesterday was hhs, the federal health department or dizziness, very rapid heartbeat, problems breathing came out and said they were going to take the application portion of healthcare.gov down or swallowing, severe rash or itching. during nonpeak hours this tell your doctor if you get a lump weekend in order to strengthen or swelling in your neck. serious side effects may happen in people who take victoza®, that part of the website, which has experienced problems in the last week. and john boehner as well as many including inflammation of the pancreas (pancreatitis), of his deputies came out and which may be fatal. said hey, this means obama care is a failure. stop taking victoza® and call your doctor right away the federal health department should not be taking it down. if you have signs of pancreatitis, that's going to mean people such as severe pain don't have acis esto the that will not go away in your abdomen application. or from your abdomen to your back, i think the administration just with or without vomiting. wants to strengthen the website tell your doctor about all the medicines you take and they have six months for this enrollment period. and if you have any medical conditions. we'll see whether those glitches are fixed but i think it's going taking victoza® with a sulfonylurea or insulin to be an ongoing process. may cause low blood sugar. >> all right, elise vieebeck and the most common side effects

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he could be charged with aggravating assault, assaulting bikers and with the use of a dangerous instrument which would be the vehicle. but they'd have to prove some kind of negligence on his part and based on what we've seen from the portion of the video we've seen, i just don't think the prosecutors will charge him. i do think you'll see additional charges against more of the bikers if they they can be identified. >> we're getting into a very tricky space with this undercover officer. sources are saying he was so deep undercover that he was living the life of the man he was pretending to be. and that there was no way he could have come forth and identified himself as an officer at the time. if you're an undercover officer and there during the commission of a crime and you don't act on with head & shoulders? it, how does that muddy the waters here? since before jeans were this skinny... since us three got a haircut. >> there's one undercover officer, but then additional since my first 29th birthday police officers apparently may have been present and in new [ female announcer ] head & shoulders. york city, under code of the number one dermatologist recommended dandruff brand. conduct, even if you are off duty as a police officer, if you witness a crime, are you required to act. even if that means that you just call the police, you are required to take action.

so that's why you're going to see the nypd investigating these officers. the undercover officer made a choice here. he don't necessarily have to blow his cover to intervene to try to stop an altercation or to try to stop someone from being nearly beat to death. he can just simply make the choice to try to intervene and not let civilians step in when you're trained and you have the knowledge and experience to know how to intervene in volatile situations. >> now in terms of civil liability, does the family of this man who was run over and injured or say the driver, do they now have a case against the nypd because there were officers present who it would seem didn't act to intervene? >> they may have a case here. it depends on what these officers actually witnessed. if they literally stood by and watched this man being beat in the street by these bikers with their helmets and from all accounts from the witness accounts it's very violent beating, you're looking at some liability here. it could very well be the case. >> talk about the men who either have been identified and are in

custody or being questioned or presumably, there are others who will be brought in an at some point because there were a lot of people involved in the incident. what are the charges they are most likely to face and what are the penalties associated with this level of crime? >> obviously aggravated assault because not only 0 did they beat the driver of the suv but apparently used their helmets to beat him. so you're looking at escalating factors. by the use of a dangerous instrument, when you inflict it's not a candy bar. harm or injury on someone and use a dangerous instrument like 130 calories your helmet t to do that, you're looking at escalating factors. 7 grams of protein you're looking at a very serious the fiber one caramel nut protein bar. violent felonies here which could account for years in prison for these bikers. but it doesn't usually work that way with health care. again, the police and the investigators have to go forward with unitedhealthcare, and try to identify additional i get information on quality rated doctors, treatment options and cost estimates, individuals who are involved before the beating took place on so we can make better health decisions. the street, i understand that that's health in numbers. the bikers slashed tires of the unitedhealthcare. suv, broke windows and carried out all kinds of acts to inflict property damage on the suv

welcome back to "weekends before they the physical injury to the driver. >> does it matter that it was a group in the commission of this with alex witt." i'm mara sigh vo cam poe. iran's supreme leader is hinting crime? does that defuse the responsibility of the people today he disapproves of the that are going to be charged or phone call between presidents are they going to each be facing all of these charges? barack obama and hassan rouhani. >> when the prosecutors look at this is ca, they have to prove the call happened during rouhani's visit to new york last charges against every individual month. that's charged. the leader's comments come after so it's not going to be, oh, you hard liners criticized the were there so you'll be swept up into this investigation to the conversation aimed at ending three decades of estrangement charges. they know they have to to problem the elements of a crime between the two countries. an investigation is under with regard to each individual way after 18 middle school students took a prescription being charged. that's how they're going to look drug in arizona. at the case. up with student is believed to >> attorney faith jenkins, have brought clonidine to school thanks so much. this is a case we'll be covering and shared it with others. for time to come. the drug is used to treat high nearly 50 years after his death, the story of jfk like you've blood parish and adhd. never seen before. all students were taken to new film "parkland" debuts this nearby hospitals. all but one released. weekend in theatersfationwide and recounts the heart stopping attorneys for jodie arias are asking a judge to ban live moments in the immediate aftermath of president kennedy's tv coverage inside the courtroom during her sentencing retrial. assassination. >> it is just you. she was convicted in the 2008 >> do something! death of boyfriend travis alexander in phoenix. the same jury failed to reach a

decision whether she should get >> doctor, it is ---ing. the death penalty. house members are back on >> i know who it is. capitol hill today. >> joining me now is the writer they just passed a bill that and director of "parkland" peter will ensure furloughed federal workers get paid when the government shutdown ends. landesman. >> great to be here. >> this is a story that's been and while fighting continues in told many times and quat often washington, the personal impact told very well. is being felt across the how is your telling different country. from what we've seen before? nbc's miguel almaguer has more. >> go ahead. >> that scene was actually real >> reporter: in talledega, indicative. for so long, for 50 years really since this happened, we've seen alabama, wendy robinson has been the story of the jfk furloughed. a single mom with three mouths to feed, today she got her last assassination played out solely through the murder mystery, the paycheck. she blames congress. >> i do think that it is conspiracy information and conspiracy idea. nonsense and that they need to this is so much more powerful get their acts together. and interesting and fascinating and kind of compulsive element >> a teacher in the to this. government-funded head start we completely ignored it all program, robinson has also lost this time. the story of the doctors, zack her child care and has no savings. ephron brilliantly plays this >> i'm at a loss for words really about it because i'm not rookie 26-year-old resident who is a student, not even a real used to not giving my kids a doctor who is alone with the christmas. >> in oak lawn, illinois, president for ten minutes before families in need turn to this anybody else comes in. that's all true. assistance center. i goss fascinated by that side. offering discounts on infant who were those people? formula, the clinic will soon the nurses, the doctors, the run out of money.

brother of the killer, the fbi >> i do not think that congress agency knew about oswald. is even thinking about the >> that is a fascinating detail. little people like us. i haven't seen the film yet. >> single mother of three, that alone sold me. roll call describes your movie rebecca war pow ski is worried and unemployed. saying "it's both a thriller >> i need these programs to help that tells a familiar chapter of history in an incredibly me survive. >> at the feeding south florida original way and tragedy of immensely personal dimensions." was that the kind of story you distribution center it, shell wanted to tell? >> perfectly. shelves aren't empty yet but the i wish i wrote that story myself. i might have. usda sent you the its last you know, i went through 9/11 in shipment of supplies yesterday. for more than 200 food banks lower manhattan as a reporter across the country, when shelves for the "new york times" magazine and was quickly in go bare, people will go hungry. afghanistan and pakistan, and so experts say if the shutdown i saw, that was a big lasts a few more days or weeks inspiration for me because i saw longer, it's going to hit us what was a large worldwide event right here in the grocery store. solely through the ground level through the people happening. the fda which checks fruits and you know, what was happening to vegetables for quality and them on the street, the firemen, safety has furloughed nearly policemen, reporters, soldiers half its workforce and canceled on the ground in afghanistan. it's how i tend to see big routine inspections. >> the consumer may see prices historical pictures is through rise if things cannot be the small lens which frankly, turns out to be the bigger more imported because inspections are profound more personal and more not being done. there may be less of a choice in inspiring and emotional way in. the grocery store. so it's a way for an audience to

>> fewer inspectors means higher connect with the jfk prices. assassination personally, not >> puts me and my family at risk through history books, not if the fruits and vegetables through conspiracy ideas. being being inspected and if the it's really a very personal, price increases, as well, it's a strain on our budget. wonderful emotional movie. >> the impact in the grocery >> there are some intense scenes store could be next. in the film. gut wrempling at times points. but many families are feeling there were automobile a lot of gruesome details you had to the pain now. contend with when you're making miguel almaguer, nbc news, a movie like this. where did you draw the line pomona, california. joining me now for more is between trying to portray republican congressman michael reality and not being too long graphic in your portrayal. burgess of texas. thanks so much for being here >> we wrestled with it till the this afternoon. >> good afternoon, mara. very end. >> you just heard some of those it's a gut decision. sad stories where people's we wanted to be real. well-being and health are at went waed to give the audience stake. what's your reaction to these the experience of being, for stories. >> well, that's precisely the instance in that trauma room or reason why in the rules in the limousine when kennedy committee and on the floor of was hit. the house we have passed many of we needed the audience to be those bills, head start and the able to digest it and be there without looking away, without feeling upset or upset in a way. wik program attracted a it's okay to be intense and okay significant number of democratic votes to those bills. to be confronted, but it's not i guess it's a big question why okay to be overwhelmed by it. those won't be taken up in the and you know, it's about united states senate. last saturday, pay for soldiers calibration. this much, this much in this

was passed unanimously on the direction and finally okay, this floor of the house. the senate did take it up, did is enough blood. this is how we can get there. pass it, it was signed by the i know over that line, it's not president. today we passed the pay for furloughed federal employees. that passed unanimously in the a thing you put your finger on floor of the house. but know when you're there. i expect the senate will do that >> it deals with the footage of on a voice vote perhaps this the assassination, abraham za weekend. my prayer is that the president will sign that, as well. puder. let's take a look. but every other aspect of the >> the film in that camera is appropriations process is copping through the rules the only way we have to know committee. we are sometimes working late what happened out here today. into the night to get these do you understand that? bills ready for the floor of the it's a matter of national security. >> i need to think. house. and in my mind, that is exactly what we should be doing right >> sir, i'm no longer asking. now. i hope the senate will start to >> and the film also focuses on pick these up. >> i want to ask you about the lee harvey oswald and his family. why did you want to convey those legislative strategy of tying budget negotiations to parts of the story. >> you know, again, these are legislation. if things were the other way things we think we know around, if say democrats controlled the house and there was a republican in the white everything about. the zapruder film and oswald. house and house dems wanted to tie budget legislation to say the truth is in reality we know like background checks for guns, nothing. lee harvey oswald was a sad is that a strategy that you would support. >> do you want to set that sociopath thick way ward precedent? >> well, actually, the president narcissistic little kid. same psychological profile as press department has been set for some time. the guy in aurora, colorado. few people remember a

congressman from massachusetts these people all share a but on an intelligence authorization bill, he offered psychological profile that an amendment that was accepted forces them nons small people to that prohibited the expenditure do horrific things. of any funds for the cia in zapruder's story is ca that's nicaragua. it caused problems for the right tick, fascinating. reagan administration and we all that film has become a piece of remember how that occurred. pop culture but there was a man but in fact, congress does have who shot that film and what happened to him after, that film an obligation. that's what the whole separation was used in many ways as a of powers is all about. weapon against him. we do control the purse strings. >> peter landesman, thanks so much for your time this so to say this is something new or novel, in fact, that's not afternoon. a fascinating film. in today's office politics, alex entirely accurate. it happened at the end of the talks to "morning joe" economic vietnam war with the boland analyst steve rattner. amendment. harry reid used it not too long he tells him about a curious ago to shut down yucca mountain. encounter and his wife and there are precedence for this former president george w. bush. being used. what has not been a precedent is first, alex asked steve what for a republican or conservative would happen if the government house to use it against a shutdown goes on. democratic president and that's >> hurts the economy in any why i think everyone is caught number of ways for businessmen, it creates enormous uncertainty. asking so many questions because that precedent has not been you can't plan, you don't hire. used. >> but what do you make of the there's a fair amount of argument, sir, that this battle evidence when washington gets is being waged or a piece of into one of these dysfunctional legislation that was signed by moments, business pulls back from making any kind of major the president, that was affirmed by an election and the supreme decisions.

that's obviously bad for the court and that now you're economy. secondly, you have 800,000 essentially trying to repeal a government workers now off the law through ties to the budget payroll. maybe they'll get paid later, negotiations that has already been affirmed on several levels. maybe they won't. >> because the law is so if you look at economists' estimates it will reduce our desperately bad. growth rate and cost jobs in and in can the fa, you're seeing that now in the first five days this economy. so it's basically a way that of the signup period. it the facebook page for washington is not only not helping but is actually hurting our chances of getting out of healthcare.gov is just reflects this economic funk we've been the anguish that people have in. >> who do you blame for this been feeling the last five days constant government by crisis as they've tried to deal with mode? >> again, i think the system has this labyrinthine government process now visited upon them changed. i know people like to blame the which they are required to take president because he didn't play golf enough with them, he didn't or face a fine. bend their arms, didn't have look, this thing was passed in them in for drinks. the middle of the night in the sure, in a perfect world, i would have loved to see him do senate on christmas eve. more of that. it sort of came to the house through the backdoor. do i think if you dug up johnson it was never the subject of a today and put him in the qulous, conference committee because do i think stuff would get done, not particularly. harry reid said i've lost my medicare was passed because 60th vote. so the house has to take what i democrats had an overwhelming did. there's no chance to improve majority in both houses. anything. obama never had an overwhelming just think for a minute. would lyndon johnson have not majority and he doesn't have the 60 votes in the senate.

passed the civil rights so you have gridlock, divided legislation if he had lacked a government. couple vote in the senate. all the factors we talked about of course, not, he would have gone and gotten that vote. that have taken power away from we might not have liked the way our leaders which i actually it looked at the time but that's think is a bad thing. what leadership was all about. leaders should have some power. in this case, it was hands off. >> you guys like to ski, huh. get the house to affirm what the >> we did a lot of skiing. i skied a reasonable amount in senate did after and they my youth. convinced enough house members to vote for it, it became law. my approach to my kids was there it's a rough draft of were a bunch of sports i wanted them to learn how to do and in legislation. this thinging is unworkable later life they could do it or because of all of the drafting not do it. >> does anyone in the family errors contained within. that's why it's been so hard to love art as much as you do? because as we look over here, plymouth. they've had 3 1/2 years, that is an original picasso. billions and billions of dollars >> that's a picasso work on and are no closer than three paper. it's the low end of picasso has years ago. >> i want to ask you to something one of our colleagues the little plaque. said awhile back. but it's interesting because i this was adam schiff just on mostly starred collecting with us. he said that privately, moderate prints. and mostly contemporary and then democrats are coming to him and kind of worked my way back and saying, i'm sorry, moderate started doing works on paper republicans rather are coming to like that. but in the print world, so i him saying they feel like have prints and there are others they're being controlled by the far right of the party, by the around. what's fun to me when the kids small faction of the party. i do want you to respond to that were little i would take them down to the museum of modern art sentiment. >> no one is controlled by and they would say we have that anyone else. we all represent our districts picture. all these years of being here

an our constituents. where we never talked much about we go to the floor. we have an obligation to to vote it, i didn't think they absorbed our district, vote our heart. it, they absorbed more than i the only thing that anyone has thought. none of them are yet in the ever told me was don't surprise collecting world but perhaps me at the last minute. they'll pick some of that up. i always try to be forthcoming >> next week's guess, kill berle for whatever reason i cannot be dozier who covers intelligence with the party leadership. and counter-terrorism for the associated press will tell us but everyone controls their own vote. about her experience in the war there have been procedural votes zone. for americans who think where if people had wanted to stray from what leadership had congress should not be paid during the shutdown, more than 100 lawmakers have an answer for wanted, they were perfectly able to do that. them. coming up next. what is telling about this is while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. there has been no attenuation of republican support on those staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. procedural votes but the democrats have certainly lost a but if you have arthritis, lot of their members coming over and voting with republicans on staying active can be difficult. things like head start nih and prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. the wik program. you noted prior, you mentioned because just one 200mg celebrex a day some of the technical problems that we're having with the can provide 24 hour relief implementation of this health for many with arthritis pain and inflammation. care legislation that the healthcare.gov website is having plus, in clinical studies, a number of problems and you've celebrex is proven to improve daily physical function sensed frustration online. the white house has said the so moving is easier. high number of visitors to the celebrex can be taken with or without food. exchange site is a sign of the and it's not a narcotic.

interest in getting affordable you and your doctor should balance the benefits insurance. you have said most of those who visited the site were members of with the risks. all prescription nsaids, like celebrex, ibuprofen, congress and journalists. the healthcare.gov site got naproxen and meloxicam have the same cardiovascular warning. almost 5 million visitors on the they all may increase the chance first day. do you really believe that was of heart attack or stroke, which can lead to death. five million congress people and this chance increases if you have heart disease reporters or do you think there's genuine interest from or risk factors such as high blood pressure the public in this legislation? or when nsaids are taken for long periods. >> there's no question there's genuine interest. all i said the other day was nsaids, like celebrex, increase the chance of serious skin or allergic reactions, perhaps if you walk back the number of visits from members of or stomach and intestine problems, congress and their staff and such as bleeding and ulcers, reporters because after all, which can occur without warning and may cause death. where is there a lot of interest patients also taking aspirin and the elderly in how this thing is going to work? are at increased risk for stomach bleeding and ulcers. it's right here in the capitol of the united states. don't take celebrex but regardless of that, if you have bleeding in the stomach or intestine, regardless of that, why weren't or had an asthma attack, hives, they ready? i mean they knew it was coming. other allergies to aspirin, nsaids or sulfonamides. they knew it was coming for get help right away if you have swelling of the face or throat, 3 1/2 years. look at medicare part d. or trouble breathing. that had rough starts to it. tell your doctor your medical history. the bush administration got it and find an arthritis treatment for you. together pretty quickly and corrected those problems. visit celebrex.com and ask your doctor about celebrex. perhaps the obama administration will, as well. but why not take a page out of for a body in motion. the implementation of part d? why dut let it crater and then that your mouth is under attack, from food particles and bacteria. come in and have to swoop down

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plan to donate or refuse their pay during the shutdown. almost half of the 535 members of congress are millionaires. their net worth is $966,000, compare that to $66,740 for a typical american family and there are staffs in many case, staff members don't make nearly as much as they do or nearly as much as the average family. so does this so-called sacrifice ring hollow? >> it really does. i think if anyone has not declined or even given their check to charity this week when certainly furloughed federal workers are suffering irreparable harm, even if they vote this had morning to repay them for this time off work, if any one of you has missed a paycheck, you know there are late fees, eviction notices to cure, there are late card notes, all of these financial damages these workers are suffering. from theat any minute... doctors recommend most. ...you could be a victim of fraud. they will never be able to most people don't even know it. recoup those costs. i really do think they are fraud could mean lower credit scores, higher loan rates...

disconnected from how real people are living their daily ...and maybe not getting the car you want. lives. >> to that end, susan, "the new it's a problem waiting to happen. york times" editorial board highlights the economic gap between lawmakers and their check your credit score, check your credit report, constituents. is that part of the problem? at experian.com because lawmakers are so far america's number one provider removed economically from the of online credit reports and scores. people they're representing, that they are living a little bit in a bubble? don't take chances. >> they live a little bit in a go to experian.com. bubble because they live in a world they're entitled to all customer erin swenson ordebut they didn't fit.line the things that are washington, customer's not happy, i'm not happy. d.c. and that they are very important sales go down, i'm not happy. when they go back to their merch comes back, i'm not happy. districts. the fact is, this is nothing use ups. they make returns easy. more than a pr stunt. unhappy customer becomes happy customer. i'm sure a lot of those members then, repeat customer. are waiting till next thursday which is when the federal easy returns, i'm happy. employees will get their repeat customers, i'm happy. paychecks so right now, while they're not working with a bay sales go up, i'm happy. i ordered another pair. check, the paycheck doesn't come i'm happy. (both) i'm happy. i'm happy. till next thursday. happy. happy. that's what everyone's looking happy. happy. happy happy. towards. >> morris, i want to take a i love logistics. listen to debbie wasserman-schultz told msnbc earlier this week. >> are you going to continue to take your salary. >> yes, i'm going to continue to the shutdown on this day take my salary. five is, of course, no laughing >> and we should note a lot of

matter, but it is a leading republicans are also saying the topic in late night laugh lines. same thing. so what about backlash from here's a sample. constituents angry that their represent tins are getting paid >> tell you ricky the shutdown during a shutdown? is bad. do lawmakers have anything to be >> how bad is it. concerned about there? >> for halloween a lot of kids >> i think everyone that works in the government has something are cressing up as federal to do with the shutdown needs to workers and staying home. be mindful of this and there's >> democrats and republicans going to be a backlash whether continue to be at a stalemate. you're a republican or a please help us, dennis rodman. democrat. it's the audacity that you would >> it is so bad, you know the liberty bell? it's now a taco bell. grandstand and use political that's how bad it is. stunts to have the impact terrible, terrible. they're having on american >> and unfortunately, there's people's lives. there's children at stakes, probably a lot more material on grandparents at stake. the way. well, today's office politics it's not like we're living in the greatest economy in the "morning joe" economist steve world. so the fact that congress would rattner. alex talked with him about his play these type of fiscal games brush with two presidents and his dad's brush with broadway with other people's money, that's the key here. fame. first he painted a catastrophic they're playing games with other people's money. they can do all their political picture for the economy if the u.s. defaults on its loans come stunts but do them and have impact on your own pocketbook, october 17th. not the american people. and it doesn't impact >> the ripple effects would be disastrous. it's not just our loans. washington, d.c. i think the treasury has been it has a ripple effect around the entire country. >> morris brings up a really relatively clear they would simply cut back what they're good point i'd like to add to. paying for all services.

it's what people will feel at so social security payments home. would be delayed. if they're feeling the ripple medicare would be delayed, effects of the shutdown, whether it's because they can't make people who sell things to the government would be delayed and their bills or grocery oz or the debt would be delayed. i think you would see a moment can't get into the certain things or people are furloughed, like we saw in 2008 after lehman that's what's going to affect it, not these grandstanding brothers failed when congress measures of taking a paycheck or failed to act on the first plan not taking a paycheck. top provide capital to the >> our next topic, tired of the banks, the stock market went down 700 points and then con res blame game. take a quick listen. came to its senses. >> we have other members in this you would see a dramatic moment like that if we did go over the orwellian week saying that the october 17th cliff. >> is there a scenario under shutdown is all about respect, which you can envision we and we've got to get something default on our debts? out of this. we just don't know what it is. >> yes, because there is a >> this week they said no to scenario that i can imagine that happening. opening up our national for a couple of reasons. memorials or our national parks first, this shutdown was not like yellowstone or the grand over a simple issue that you could compromise out. canyon. >> our hard working public in other words, it's not that the republicans said we want to servants should not become cut $20 billion from the deficit collateral damage in the and obama wants to cut $10 political games and ideological billion and you compromise on wars that republicans are waging >> this administration has 15. the republicans have said we chosen needlessly to furlough want obama care delayed. there's no possibility the white house is going to agree to that workers. >> that's all ound from the in my opinion. house floor just today. so the grounds for compromise so goldie, does it really matter are harder see than they often right now who's to blame or does

have been. secondly you have a group in the the public just want them to house that absolutely do not figure this out? want to raise the debt ceiling >>. >> well, i think there's really nothing to figure out. under any circumstances. i don't think that you tie the it will require i think speaker health care law, you know, to boehner effectively going whether or not you're going to against a majority of his caucus run this federal government and using democrats to get this forward or not. i just don't think you tie the two together. passed. that's something he's done it's nothing short of blackmail. before but he has said he's not at the end of the day, the going to do now. president and this speaker of we'll have to see. >> i suspect some of your the house really need to come writing ability may have come together and make a decision right now that they're going to from your father who was not reopen this government, they're only a successful businessman going to lift the debt ceiling but also an off broadway and later, after they've done that, they're going to have playwright. >> i think back on it often meaningful conversations about debt and and this country. about my father who i was close i think those are real to and how interesting it was. conversations to be had about right sizing this government. he went to college. but the very notion that you don't want 25 to 30 million he was a depression baby, a war people in this country to have veteran. part of the greatest generation. access to health care coverage he came back from the war and and so you're going to shut down basically said i've got get a job and ended up working in a the federal government, which is paint factory and running a causing some irreparable damage to real families and to our paint factory that belonged to his wife's family. he was going to long island city and making paint and selling it. nation's economy is poppyand has but he always read a lot. to stop. >> we had congressman ryan last he was always interested in

things and then just decided week and he said redistricting business was not enough and essentially saying the started writing plays. republicans in the house are he ultimately in fact spent a safe in their home districts because the lines have been year or two years going up to redrawn. brown, which happened to be my and in many cases they're concern if being challenged by alma mater and getting a someone who's even more master's degree in play writing conservative than them. is that factoring in here? long after i was gone. >> well, yes, it absolutely is. but i was actually a trustee of but people in those districts, brown when he received his degree and i the ability to hand those extreme right districts if you will, they're being it to him. applauded. their constituents are happy >> that's cool. >> there's a picture on the with the shutdown. other side of the room of that. they are okay with it. so they get to go home to their that was really cool. >> an interesting picture i saw districts as heroes. here in the office, that is a picture of you and your wife it doesn't make them, in my opinion, a hero in what they're with presidents clinton and bush doing in washington. in fact, it's despicable that 43. how did that picture happen. they've shut down the government >> into it was pretty funny. over a piece of legislation that so we were invited to a has passed and is in effect and corporate dinner which the two went online on tuesday. presidents were going to speak and my wife drags me up to the so it's absurd that's the case. but i think that we're going to front row and we're sitting there and the two presidents are go towards something of throw those bums out, not just on the talking, and at one point president clinton who has a right, but you're also going to really great way about this see it on the left where washington is just going to become an ugly place and people says, you no he, one example of are going to say we want change. how you can be successful is the >> morris, we're going to pick things back up with you after auto industry and steve rattner the break. and coming up next, jay leno has is sitting out there and he did

it and he was nice about it. at that point bush, who i have some laughs at my expense. never met or been in the same that's coming up next. room with to my knowledge looks up and goes like this, rattner, humans. even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, rattner, you out there, rattner? we still run into problems. >> can't you see him doing it? namely, other humans. >> instantly, of course, i liked which is why at liberty mutual insurance, him. later in the conversation, they auto policies come with new car replacement started talking about subprime and accident forgiveness if you qualify. mortgages. and they're back and forth about it and bush says, you know, i see what else comes standard wasn't smart enough to see that at libertymutual.com. coming but rattner, you probe liberty mutual insurance. saw that coming, didn't you? responsibility. it was really pretty funny. what's your policy? i know, and i would have sat in the back. so then there was a photo line what's your policy? cheryl burke is cha-cha-ing in depend silhouette briefs and we went and got our pictures taken and my wife who was the for charity, to prove that with soft fabric and waistband, finance. chairman of the of dnc, the best protection looks, fits, and feels just like underwear. democratic national committee for four or five years looks to get a free sample and try for yourself. president bush and says i spent for or five years trying to get you out of office. that's why there's new duracell quantum. he smiled and said it didn't go only duracell quantum has a hi-density core. well, did it. >> in our next hour it, steve and that means more fuel, more power, explains how the shutdown hurts more performance than the next leading brand. the economy and what he thinks new duracell quantum. would be happening in washington trusted everywhere.

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well, before we get back to our big three, i wanted to share a clip from "the tonight show" when obama care enrollment went online tuesday, i tried to sign up. and we taped it to show what the process would be like. we used that as a segment on msnbc. turns out that wasn't the only place it was used as jay leno has fub with it. >> they keep saying it's easy to do. one msnbc reporter tried to sign up live for it on the air the other day. this is real. take a look. >> so i sent an activation link to my personal e-mail account. i'm going to proceed. i keep getting this error page. so i'm going to call the help number now. now i'm on hold. it's my second time calling. so it just started ringing again. but i haven't reached a person yet.

>> so just for the record the jay leno folks manipulated that video. i did not freak out like that on the phone or the computer. but i would say that's my best and worst moment for the week. and i'd like to turn to my panel the machinery of obama care for your picks and worst, morris, i want to start with underwent its first serious testing this week, and some you. >> well, i think that the winner early fine tuning. for the week is that the in fact, the health care shutdown is our competition, exchange portal's website was russia, china, iran, you know, taken down for several hours as we show the dysfunctionalty overnight to upgrade and repair the system. it left many waiting for hours of washington, d.c., you see their leadership moving forward this week as they tried to sign with their agenda and the up for coverage. president is not even going to joining me now is ann philly the summit in asia. the losers of the week are the pick, president of enroll america focused on getting taxpayers. if this is what our tax dollars uninsured americans to sign up are going to, this for obama care and formerly a deputy at the white house and kept of health and human dysfunctionalty, we all deserve a refund and demand a refund. services. thanks so much for being here this afternoon. >> gold goldie. >> i was going to say senator >> thanks for having me. >> we're now in the fifth day of harry reid may be my winner this the exchange's being live. week, but i think nobody may be my winner this week. how have things gone so far. >> good call. >> at the end of the day who's >> the health insurance lost this week is all of us. marketplace was launched this these hundreds of thousands of week in every state across the federal workers who are now country. and we are seeing interest that taxing the unemployment trust is ves very high. funds and their individual hhs has announced that 8.6 states and so this is really

million folks visited that i having a really harsh ever website this week. trickle-down effect that i don't over 400,000 people called a hot think we're going to be able to overcome for quite some time. line. and that's really reflective of >> susan, quickly. what we're seeing across the >> best week goes to governor country. so we know that millions of chris christie because he has people have started this nothing to do with washington. in fact, he used that as an process. they visit aid website or talked example of what's wrong. and then the worst week goes to to someone in their community. now they're going to talk to the gop. right now they are looking as the problem and not the their friends and family and they're going to compare their solution. >> all right. options. they know they have till goldie, morris, susan, thank you december 15th if they want to all so much. that wraps things up for me. enroll by january 1st, they have till december 15th to finalize the process. >> i tried to sign up this week just to see how the process i . up next, we have the latest on worked. it didn't go very well. the shutdown. have a good one. the site was overloaded. helps lines were unavailable. do you think that the government was underprepared for the roll out of this massive program. >> well, we did see some glitches this week. we've been expecting there might be some glitches. for something of the scope and scale, it is a huge undertaking. what i will say though is my focus is really on consumers and we've been really paying close attention to how are people who can benefit from this reacting.

those folks that did visit that website and what we're seeing is i'm on expert on softball. people are really undeterred. people have been waiting for and tea parties. years to find quality affordable i'll have more awkward conversations health insurance. than i'm equipped for, they even if they're a little because i'm raising two girls frustrated with the technology on my own. glitches, they remain excited i'll worry about the economy more than a few times before they're grown. and interested. and we're also seeing the but it's for them, non-profits on the ground who so i've found a way. are helping them go through this process. who matters most to you says the most about you. they're taking advantage of the at massmutual we're owned by our policyowners, chance to educate people about what's coming. so i think people recognize they and they matter most to us. have till december 15th to ready to plan for your future? enroll if they want to have we'll help you get there. coverage by january 1st and they remain excited and interested. [ mthat if you wear a partial,w >> hhs still hasn't released you're almost twice as likely to lose your supporting teeth? details on how many people have try poligrip for partials. actually enrolled. poligrip helps minimize stress do you have numbers or estimates on that? >> we don't have numbers but do which may damage supporting teeth by stabilizing your partial. have stories of folks across the care for your partial. country who have enrolled. help protect your natural teeth. we've talked with daniel who's a 22-year-old student in florida. and he was able to enroll in he was a matted messiley in a small cage. ng day. coverage that cost him just $70 a month. and something to know about that so that was our first task, was getting him to wellness. is that that is actually the same amount that daniel was without angie's list, i don't know if we could have found paying before. the big difference is that all the services we needed for our riley.

previously he had a catastrophic from contractors and doctors to dog sitters and landscapers, plan that only allowed him to go you can find it all on angie's list. to the doctor three times a year. now he's paying $70 a month and we found riley at the shelter, and found everything he needed has much better coverage under at angie's list. the marketplaces. >> leading up to this week, the join today at angieslist.com polls weren't great. one from the kaiser foundation found that 74% of uninsured people didn't know that the exchanges opened on tuesday. do you think there was a communications failure your here on the part of the white house? >> we do know there are mill yops of people out there who stand to benefit and don't know about it. that's what the work of get covered america campaign is all about, working with partners to have a presence in communities to talk to the uninsured and let them know, what does this mean to them. i think something, the fact we saw so many people check out the website or find someone in their community to talk about this or call a hot line, that says something about both the awareness and also the real hunger that people have to learn more about how this can help them. >> what's next? what steps are you focused on next in making the process

better and simpler and getting the word out? >> well, enroll america and our you may have heard there's a new rinse partners across the country are that talks about protecting, really doing what we've been even after eating and drinking. doing for the last few months. it is working in partnership wpt crest pro-health has always done that. it's clinically proven to fight plaque and gingivitis. faith leaders and local rinsing with pro-health after brushing non-profits and individual volunteers and communities can take your oral health to a new level. across the country to have neighbors talking to neighbors now that's the new you need. and friends talking to friends right from the beginning i could really feel about what is here, how people it changing something for the better. can benefit and how they can i know there's been an improvement. access it. something i've seen this week is my pearly whites, they feel really good. the incredible importance that that presence in communities [ male announcer ] go pro. with the brand you can trust, has. that our ability to answer those crest pro-health. questions about you know when folks should go and sign up for the time to go through the process. so we're going to continue doing what we're doing, working community by community to get i really wish we could keep the word out. >> all right. the debate here in the realm of ann filipik, thanks so much for reality. >> now is the time since your time this afternoon. new details about some everyone's in town to pick up the phone, to work together and policemens's ties to the group to solve the problem. who took part in that wild >> today is day five of the motorcycle chase in new york. shutdown created by the tea that's coming up. ties to the g party extremists who are harming our country by holding our government hostage. who took part in that wild >> we'll continue to be here motorcycle chase in new york. that's coming up.

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>> good afternoon. and welcome to weekends with alex wit. i'm mara schiavocampo. it's 1:00 in the east. here's what's happening. in a brand-new interview with the associated press today, president obama says he's willing to negotiate changes with republicans to the affordable care law and define ways to reduce spending but he strews he is not willinging to bargain till after congress ends the government shutdown and passes a new debt ceiling. >> what we can't do is keep engaging in this sort of brinksmanship where a small