course. if it's sunday, it's "meet the press". there will not be another government shutdown, you can count on that. >> will you rule out pushing to the brink the another shutdown? >> i will to anything and i will continue to do anything i can to stop the train wreck that is obama care. >> you've got to have straight talk. there are divisions within the republican party. we've had them in the past. it's very regrettable because our adversary is not each other. and we will probably have to go through this discussion and debate. grand ole civil war in the

grabbed ole party. what's different this time? also today, confront as criticism. >> it doesn't work. it's supposed to get and you quote. it doesn't do that. if they don't change management, this project is doomed. >> that's something obviously the administration is working on 24/7. the eveimplementation of the affordable carry act. >> its he understandable in terms of glitches. >> tom president obama answers quit tick of his health care plan even those from inside his party. this as congress gets ready to hold hearings on the issue. also today, florida's fugitives captured. the proper convicted kell kille appeared in court. we're live as police promise there will be more arrests.

also ahead -- >> could it be that we don't need to go to school at all? >> life lessons. the new method helping students in faraway places learn in ways not possible before. it's today's big idea. the ultimate fan film? childhood friends recreated the original indiana jones movie. it sat on the shelf of for decade. now they're getting the hollywood treatment. a whole heck of a lot to get to, but we start with the civil war within the gop. it's escalating. let's get straight to the brain trust. good sunday to all of you. molly, let me start with you. the split in the gop became very public as a result of the government shutdown. >> yeah, absolutely. >> shutting down the government in my view is not conservative

policy. i don't think a two week paid vacation for federal employees is conservative policy. a number of us were saying back in july in a this strategy could not and would not work. and of course it didn't. so there will not be another government shutdown, you can count on that. >> so there is mch mcconnell thoe this morning. there has been so much tall about the all-out civil war. we heard the finger pointing today. what does this rift mean for the gop and the country going forward? >> well, i would say a couple things. first of all, you're absolutely right that this isn't exactly new. ever since mitt romney lost the 2012 election and actually before that, there was a lot of conflict within the republican party. it wasn't a coalition that held together particularly well. the different strains, those who thought romney wasn't conservative enough for example. but it's really escalated since the shutdown. it's become more overt. and i think what we saw play out during the shutdown which was

really caused by disagreements within the house republican caucus much more than any disagreement between the two parties, so instead of being a sort of internal housekeeping matter for the party to sort of get together and decide on its own, it became a matter of national consequence, it became our national psycho drama, it became the issue that was shutting down the government. and's why it's become overt. >> senator cruz has not been apologetic for his part. this is what he said on abc's "this week". >> i'm not serving in office because i desperately needed 99 new friends in the u.s. senate. given the choice between being reviled in washington, d.c. and appreciated in texas or reviled in texas and appreciated in washington, i would take the former 100 out of 100 times. >> if we are to believe him, senator cruz doesn't care about his poll numbers.

how then does the so-called establishment deal with him going forward? >> i think that is the big, big question for the day. because it's not just senator cruz that the establishment needs to deal with. it is the sttea party. i mean the day that we saw last week orrin hatch who was as i have said earlier today the conservative's conservative and john mccain coming out and basically saying that we've got a serious problem here, the country cannot be governored by the heritage foundation and the club for growth and the tea party, we know that there is a serious problem in the republican party and quite honestly the question is there room for moderate republicans in today's republican party or are we going to have to see them migrate and become self identified independents. or for example conservative democrats. because the ted cruzs of the world and the tea party faction, they're not going anywhere. >> michael you wrote something that was very interesting. you wrote the republican establishment could find itself

in trouble, this will be a war. and it just might be a war that the extremists will win. establishments have power and money, but insurgents have been advancing and unless they're pushed back once and for all, it's only a matter of time. you know this, political insurgents win occasionally a battle, but they rarely win the war. so what does that mean going forward in. >> that's very true. and i should add and i did mention in i think the paragraph preceding that usually after a lot of stump and drunk oig, republican primary voters have gone for the safe candidate, the establishment candidate, the candidate whose turn it was. they went for george w. bush in 2000 after the mccain ensure against insurgency straight talk express. they went for romney after they tried to everybody else.insurge express. they went for romney after they tried to everybody else.straigh. they went for romney after they tried to everybody else. but there is always a first time.

generals get caught fighting the last war. i think things are just changing a little bit. ted cruz' approval rates, i think he does pay attention to his approval numbers. 74-8 among tea party members and even among other republicans, considerably more favorable than unfavorable. and the tea party people vote in primaries and they're active and they go out and knock on doors. and they're the wing of the party that practically everybody and the republican media are playing to right now. >> i want you to sit tight for me just a second here. michael, you mentioned ted cruz. i want to bring in the person who was ted cruz's predecessor, senator kay bailey hutchison joining me live. senator, always good to see you. i want to get your take on senator cruz. here he is again from abc this morning. take a listen. >> on a human level, that has to bother you to be sitting in an institution like the senate and

having your -- not democrats, fellow republicans so angry at you? >> not remotely. because the people i work for are the women and men you just saw. i work for 26 million texans. that's my job to fight for them. i don't work for the party bosses in washington. i work for the people of texas. >> senator, you work for ted fo people of texas at one how much. how much does senator cruz actually represent the people of the lone star state? >> i think senator cruz would be proud that people either really, really like him or they really, really don't. they feel strongly one way or the other and i think that's what he would like, as well. what i think here is that the only way republicans will have influence in he is sprlly the budget battles that are upcoming is if we are united. and i do hope that he and senator lee, senator coburn,

senator toomey work going forward for budget control. that's the issue our country is facing. >> that's your hope. but how realistic is to think that is something that is going to actually happen if past performance is typically some sort of indication of future performance? >> well, i think the tea party started on economics. they started the whole movement was for the overspending. it was the incredible debts and deficits that were being created that caused the tea party to form. so if they are at their grass roots, it is the battle that we should join together and i think we will. and i think senator cruz is one of the leaders. i think senator mcconnell has done a great job in keeping the party united. he united the party against obama care but that was battle was lost because there was a

veto-proof senate at the time that passed obama care. so now we're going forward on the issue we can effect and that is the debt ceiling and the deficit and getting our fiscal house in order. >> this week the houston chronicle which once endorsed ted cruz slammed him and longed for the days when you were back in office writing in part, does nipples miss senator kay bailey hutchison. we're not sure how much difference one person can make, but if we could choose just one, it would be hutchison whose years of service in the senate were marked by two things sorely lacked in ted cruz. senator, as you watch this thing play out over -- that was quite flattering by the way. you hope you sent them a nice handwritten note. while you watch this all play out over the past week, what went through your mind, how upset were you, how annoyed were you? >> i was very concerned. because i wanted us to fight the battle that we could win.

and i think by diverting us into obama care, though i totally disagree with obama care and i think it needs a lot of fixing, but the lempg we had was on the deficit and debt and i think that got lost. i think that ended up in a worst situation with the debt and definite 1icit and i think that m mitch mcconnell got was spending level stayed the same. but until you really cut the spending and have entitlement reform going in the outyears, you're not going to have our fiscal house in order. and that's what i hope we will unite around. >> former texas senator kay bailey hutchison, senator, always good to see you. thank you so much for your time. >> thank you, craig, for having me. >> i want to bring the brain trust back for just a second. molly, i want to pick up on something that the senator just said there. she talked about the spending

reductions and moving forward and that being the ultimate mission of the tea party movement. of course one of the primary missions of the gop in general. but the fact of the matter is, and you alluded to this in an article you wrote last week, had the fwchlt ochgop not played it they played it, they would have been better off in a lot of ways. >> absolutely. the deth deal they got was worsn the deal that they were offered and refused to shut down the government. they could have claimed a win out of this. as senator hutchison sort of alluded to, the spending levels that were in that original continuing resolution that the house refused to pass at the last minute and the government shutdown as a result, the spending levels in that bill were the spending levels created by sequestration. democrats didn't want those spending levels, but that was their idea of the compromise. republicans could have claimed that as a win. moved on and still had the debt ceiling fight which they

perceived as leverage even if the president was saying he wasn't going to negotiate. in addition the original continuing resolution only went through december 15, so they would have ruined thanksgiving for all the political roeeporte myself. informed, they got this agreement that locks in the spending levels through january and then the debt ceiling through february. so they don't have another opportunity to negotiate for several more months and they had the government shutdown that can did such a number on their approval r5 approval ratings. >> stick around. i'll come back to you three. congress may be finally ready to tackle immigration reform. but after a summer of stops and starts, advocates worry that their dreams are on the verge of being dashed. is there hope in a divided d.c.? and the a masterpiece before two friends painstakingly recreate a hollywood block bobuster line b

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love. saturday hillary clinton endorsed mccoal love at a campaign rally. president obama wants the house to move quickly oim xwrags reform. a bill passed back inuin june. it creates a path for citizenship up to 11 million up documented immigrants. it nearly doubles the number of visas for high skilled workers and makes e-verify mandatory for all employers. but the government shutdown may have complicate matters. maria theresa and an undocumented immigrant join me. maria theresa, let me start with you. senator marco rubio, one of the drafters of the senate legislation did not sound especially confident this morning that reform will make it through the house. take a listen. >> i certainly think that

immigration reform is a lot harder to achieve take than it was just three weeks ago. because of what's happening here. again, i think the house deserves the time and space to have their open ideas about how they want to move forward. let's see what they come up with. >> what might the politics of the shutdown mean for the politics of immigration reform? >> i think fundamentally that the republicans need to go back to their district and show that they got something done, anything at this point. immigration is one of the few things that will actually help them not only in the polls, but also when it comes to midterm elections. it will help them with an incredible base at the latino community, asian community and african-americans. so i think there is an opportunity for them to actually start healing the wounds of the party, but also giving them an opportunity to court different types of voters that they have been shutting out because the rhetoric. and if you talk to a lot of the republican elders, they actually believe that the party needs

immigration reform. boehner understands they need immigration reform. if boehner were voting for the senate bill, it would pass. but he has to raise the haster rule. >> are you what we in the media would call is a dreamer. you were 11 when you were brought to the country. 23 now. that term dreamer, what does that mean to you? >> for me it means youth just like me who did come into the country and overstayed or came in without visas. we felt like an american on the inside and accepting the country as our own but a country not ready to accept us. >> are you more or less optimistic now that the congress of united states will do something big on immigration reform? >> unfortunately with the government shutdown across the

united states, i'm sure every was a little it is appointed in the congress. and their ability to not be able to run government. we hope immigration reform is their opportunity to redeem themselves and show america they can still run the government. >> the initiative has been in place for about a year. what has that meant in your community? >> for me personally, it allowed me to apply and get accepted in to nursing school. it allowed me to get my driver's license, it allowed many youth like myself to be able to work legally, to be able to have a work authorization, to not be afraid of being deported, as to being questioned about our status. so it gave us a sense of security and comfort in the lives that we were living. >> maria theresa, there is starting to become a prevailing school of thought that the house will act in a piece meal approach, that there won't be a

comprehensive approach to changing immigration system in this country. are you okay with that? >> i think that what we want is something to come out of the house and then basically they can duke it out in conference committee between the is that the and the house. i think what's very clear what we cannot have is a piece of legislation that does not include a pathway to citizenship. because if we don't have a pathway to citizenship, you'll have woutwo problems. you're creating two sets of individuals. number two, you'll have over 50 million americans who will be questioned if they're american or not simply because of their last 9/1 last name and that's not acceptable. so we're looking for a pathway to citizen ship and duke everything out in conference and give the president a bill for him to sign.ship and duke everything out in conference and give the president a bill for him to sign. >> thank you both for joining me on a sunday afternoon. and we will be right back.

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computers left in playgrounds, roads and slums. that's today's big idea. an education researcher maintains some kids do not lead teachers and classrooms to learn, they just need the internet and can do the rest on their own. here is a glimpse at an upcoming documentary about its concept. >> it's not a question of whether children need the internet. but it's a question of whether children need to know how to learn. more affluent children have people who help them to learn anything. but it's children in decembsola area this is need to learn. >> it won his the 2013 ted prize and he joins me live. you talk about how you got this big idea. you used to work in new delhi near a slum and one day you decided to just leave a computer unmanned in a place that neighborhood kids had access to

that computer. and this is happened. >> they said can we touch it. i said if you wish to. and i went away. about eight hours later, we found them browsing and teaching each other how to broud. i said that's impossible. i went away. came back after a couple months. found kids playing games on it. they said we want a faster processor and better mouse. >> how is it that these kids can learn so much apparently with just unmanned computer access especially if they don't even know english? >> well, what i found is that children if they work in groups can actually learn how to use a computer and how to use the internet. that was new 14 years ago. it's not really new now. 2 # 1/2-year-olds can handle an ipad and teach themselves to read. so it's a new mechanism and we need to use it.

>> how do you make sure that the hardware and kiosks themselves are not abandoned or not destroyed? >> well, they are quite often. the community doesn't really understand this any more than many other people. and they think this is just a free video game for children. and they don't look after it. so we need to create the technology which will enable these machines to work. unfortunately, computers are not designed for children in poor countries thp they're designed for executives in rich board rooms. i'm try doing something about that. >> what are you trying to do about it? >> well, i'm trying to see if it's possible to tell if a computer is not the working properly from a distance. that's not very hard. when's harder is that if it isn't, is it possible to have it working properly from a distance

again without having to accepse engineer. what kind of an enclosure would make easier to maintain these machines. and of course the machines themselves are getting cheaper and thinner and lighter and faster. so is it possible that one can have a backup machine so that you can just swap one for the other. so these are some of the things that i'm looking at. >> there are some women who have also become apintegral part of their plan, they're called british grannies. explain their role and who they are. >> well, children when they group around computers don't just play games. they get tired of playing games after a while and they start looking for things. and they keep bumping in to all sorts of things given the nature of the internet. children also like grandmothers. i think everybody does. and grandparents i should say.

and they like chatting with grand parents. so i put these two things together and i said if you're work around a big idea on the internet and you're in groups and you're arguing about things, how would it be if you had a granny or a grandpa who you could call whenever you want. and they could come on and say to you, well, i don't know much about that, but i think it's fantastic what you're doing. it's basically a role of an encouraging elderly adult. and what i found in an experiment that learning buyer themselves actually accelerates in the prepares of that kind of encouragement. >> it is a fantasticed abo big . the prize was well deserved.

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that's scene from raiders of the lost ark. an adaptation. and it's being called the greatest of all time. they spent seven years of their lives back in the '80s making a shot for shot remake of the iconic film. now decades later the story of how they made their adaptation is already the subject of a book and could soon be the subject of a major motion picture. chris and eric are the minds behind the adaptation. they're much older now. good to see you guys. >> hi, thanks for having us on. >> great to be on. >> chris, let me start with you. you played the lead role in this thing. what made you decide to start the project? >> well, as an 8, 10-year-old

around that time seeing raiders of the lock ark for the first time it blew my mind and he was such an amazing hero. and i wanted nothing more than to simply play the character of indiana jones. that was the inspiration really out of just role playing. and why not a better way do that than create the world myself. i teamed up with eric, my best friend, and we set out on a 7 year journey to do that. >> you had no budget, you shot scenes in your back yard. i understand from time to time the special effects got hairy. how were you able to pull it off? >> well, they say that kids don't know what they can't do. and for us, that was a real fortunate thing. had we known that it would have taken seven years for us to remake a $26 million film on our allowance, i think we would have been terrified. but we just plunged ahead with all the challenges and figured it out as we went. kind of like indy says in raiders. >> the adaptation originally

premiered in 1989. what kind of response did you get? >> eric, do you want to take that in. >> in 1989, as far as we knew, we were done. we spent ages 12 to 19 on it. and we were just relieved to -- that we actually finished. and little did we know life had other plans. >> your story has become the subject of a book. it can now be turned in to a movie by the same guy who i understand bougrought napoleon dynamite to the screen. walk me how it is that came about. >> i was at a children's film festival in utah and was screening in the same theater in park city where jeremy kuhn, producer of florida ponapoleon

there and we hit it off and we started talking about taking the book and having help produce and turn it into a documentary but also a feature film. and we did just that. so moving forward with that. >> for to happen. for the book to be turned in to a film, i understand that steven spielberg and george lucas of the original film both have to sign off on the project. have we heard from either one of them yet? >> well, they both silentl endorsed us. stephen has been more public and he's been incredibly supportive and we're very thankful from all of the support through the years from everybody, lucas film, paramou paramount, spielberg and everybody. there are legalities involve and they want to make sure it's handled appropriately since it's such a big franchise. so we're taking those steps.

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confusing error messages or had to wait for slow page loads or forms that failed to respond in a timely fashion. the initial consumer experience of healthcare.gov has not lived up to the expectations of the american people. we are committed to doing better. why didn't the administration admit there were problems right away, mike? >> i don't know. i mean, for one reason they could get away with it because the republicans were making fools of themselves on other fronts. but this is really totally unacceptable. this just plays into every person's depressing and cynical stereotype about government not being able to get anything right. this is the party of government. this is the party that's believed that government is supposed to work for the people. this is his signature law. the thing that has his name attached to it and is probably going to have his name attached to it forever or as long as it

lasts. it's just unconsciousable that this didn't work. yes, gibbs is is right as he was quoted in your clip at the top of the show. people need to be fired. >> here's the thing, michelle bernard. i'm glad michael alluded to it as well. because, you know, the president has always contended that government can do big things to improve the lives of people. and now you have government doing a big thing or trying to do a big thing, and a lot of folks are trying to take advantage of it, saying, god, this is a nightmare. how much do this play into that narrative that a lot of folks on the right have maintained for many, many years that any time government tries to do anything, it screws it up? >> well, i mean, it plays into it in the sense that quite frankly anything that this president tries to do, people on the right, if there's even the smallest error, and i -- i absolutely, this is an enormous problem. even if there's the smallest

error, people on the right are always going to find problems with anything the president says or anything that the president wants to do. quite frankly, years ago the president said not only that our government can do big things for people, but that our government should be smart. and this has just not been smart. but it is a technical problem. again, it's a problem of massive proportions. but this legislation, it's his signature legislation. it is probably one of the most important things that we have seen him done during his two terms in office. and eventually they're going to get it together and this is going to work. and i believe that this -- that the affordable care act is going to change the lives of millions of americans and that's what history will remember. not just the fact that the rollout was a colossal nightmare. >> molly, what are you hearing about the reasons why kathleen sebelius is not going to be testifying at this congressional hearing on thursday? >> well, one of the most disturbing things as you sort of alluded to about this rollout has been the lack of transparency. the fact they didn't release the numbers for how many people were

attempting to sign up or creating accounts until yesterday. saturday they finally told us it's been about half a million people between the state and federal exchanges. today we get this blog post from the department of health and human services. it really sounds like behind the scenes, there's a lot of people running around with their hair on fire. they toedon't have a handle on things. there's a lot of chaos of just they didn't anticipate that it would be this bad. they don't know what to do. they're scrambling. that's why, you know, as you said, the hhs blog post is now saying they're going to look for outside help. they're going to try and bring in the cavalry to make this work. >> let's take a look at the headlines next week. this is where you guys forecast what's going to be making headlines. all of you thinking obama care is going to be making headlines in some way, form or fashion. michael, let me start with you, sir. what you got? >> glitches continue in obama care. >> not very optimistic. >> going way out on a limb there.

>> you don't think once the cavalry is called in, you get some of the smartest minds from the i.t. world on this thing they're not going to be able to iron it out in just a few days? >> we've already had some of the smartest minds in the i.t. world on this. it's going to take more than that a week. it will be ironed out. not this week. >> molly, there are some who have suggested that behind the scenes, they knew that this was going to be a really, really rocky rollout. but there was so much political pressure that there's no way they could not go forward with it even when they knew it wasn't going to be ready. >> well, the bigger question here is are these technical glitches, or is this a problem with the law? so you saw all this political pressure being applied. you saw some of the revelations that have come out about not even putting it out to bid until after the election because they didn't want it to become a political ammunition. all of this is really disturbing if the goal is to make this program work. when the smoke clears, when and if the website is up and running, what we really have to find out is does the law work. not just does the website work. that's the question that we

still have to have answered when this open enrollment period finally does end. >> there's your headline there. finally some answers. >> hopefully. this week. i think especially with obama giving the speech tomorrow we're finally going to get some answers for at least how the administration regards the situation. >> michelle bernard, what's your headline? >> so my headline is despite the rocky rollout, obama care is here to stay. it's not going anywhere. >> oh, michelle bernard, that headline makes a lot of folks upset. >> it makes a lot of folks upset because, look, let's face it. we've got a congress particularly in the house of representatives that the only thing they like to do in terms of quote, unquote, governance is vote to defund obama care. it's not going anywhere. we saw that. we know that for a fact. there have been technical glitches. there are more likely than not problems with the law that will be fixed with amendments. but it's not going to be defunded. it is not going to be repealed. it is the law of the land. and for better or for worse, people on the right particularly in the house of representatives need to understand that they

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