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have been better. i don't think the message was wrong. i think the message was accurate. lisa myers, found buried in the 2010 language of the law, an estimate that because of normal turnover, normal turnover in the individual insurance market, 40 to 67% of customers will not be able to keep their policy. developments comes as the head of the government agency in charge of the health care.org. the website has been grilled for hours. there have been heated moments including democrat congressman bill pascrell of new jersey, accusing of his republican counterparts of refusing to help people sign up for the law the way democrats helped in the part of medicare part d eight years ago. >> we went back to districts and told seniors, although we voted no, we personally believe and will work with the bush administration to make it work. that's what we did. and how many of you stood up to
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do that? none. zero. zero. let's talk. let's not water the wine here. let's say it like it is. >> let me bring in "washington post" national political reporter malia henderson and wendell potter. we'll have congressman pascrell in a second. but let's start with the admission from steny hoyer that some policies, people would need to get more extensive coverage. it is not that you would be abandoned and left without anything, but if your coverage was a basic coverage and did not meet the stand r standard of the new law, there would be adjustments made here. >> yeah, of course, that's the case, because one of the whole purposes for the affordable care act was to make sure people had adds quaut. 30 million are under insured because they are lured into policies that don't provide them
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the protection they need. we've known or should have known all along, i have and most people who have been following this knew that a lot of policies available now that people are in would not be available next year because they are simply in many cases just junk insurance. >> to your point, you knew this. you were an insurance executive and knew a lot more about the insurance industry and you have some people today who have gone up and signed up and realizing they will pay more. they are getting better coverage but they are paying more and some of these people who appeared on a number of news programs saying they are not happy. >> i think that's absolutely the case. we could have anticipated this and i written about this quite a bit. i fault the administration for not doing an adequate job of letting people know what the experience would be in terms of their policies would be adequate or not. also keep am mind we're talking about less than 5% of the american population that is affected by this at all.
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those who buy their coverage on the individual market. and of those who are going to be getting new coverage, most of them will be able to get subsidies to help them pay the premium. not only will they get better coverage when they enroll, it will be at the lower cost than what they are paying right now. >> that is the heart of the matter here in lisa myers report. she noted all of this information, despite some pushback within the white house, who said her report was misleading and it was not, it was clarifying or making if clear, people can get subsidies and they will have better health insurance. they will pay more for that. that is really about the messaging from the website in its glitches to other notable issues, whether you support the president or not, these are things that people at least at this point believe that have been blindsided as they sign up for the affordable health care. >> very true.
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the administration needs to do a much better job of communicate. that's been a problem from the very beginning, the administration has not done an at adequate job of the benefits and what people's responsibilities would be and what they would face when the law is fully implemented. >> let me bring you in on this, the developing news with a that steny hoyer said the message was accurate but again, the precise necessary would have been better here. let me play a little bit of exchange today in this hearing as you well expected, a bit of fireworks over this issue over whether people would be canceled and what they did in exchange for a few more dollars here. let's play it. >> do you know if it's true as the president has said and many democrats have said, if you like your health care plan, you can keep it. is that a true statement? >> there were health care plans -- >> is that a true statement? >> that is a true statement. they were grandfathered in.
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>> thank you for that answer. in washington state, my constituents can't keep her health care plan. 290,000 individuals in washington have received notices canceling their health care plan. do you know that that's happening? >> i know -- >> have you heard those stories? >> i am aware there are issuers in states that are canceling plans grandfathered in and moving to new plan. >> what you just said about keeping your health care plan isn't true? >> they can keep it. the issuers just chose -- >> they got cancellation notice you can't keep it. why are you saying you can? i don't understand. >> what does the administration need to do particularly tomorrow when we hear from kathleen sebelius to clear this up so people do not believe they are abandoned and have nothing and better explanation of what process -- and to wen daul's
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point that a sliver of people impacted in this way would go through? >> it's hard to know. you'll see kathleen sebelius tomorrow. the president will be in massachusetts tomorrow as well talking about health care. the fundamental problem here is that you had a president who went out on the stump when he was campaigning and talking about health care who over and over and over again said if you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan. it seemed now that isn't true. we had a lot of stories starting to flood the zone here at this point with people saying their premiums are going up, they've been canceled from the health insurance plans they had and liked. people saying that they get obama care, the doctor that's actually in their -- in the hospital isn't actually taking these plans. the problem is there isn't counter stories about successful signups from obama care, so this administration has a real problem on their hands.
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of course, now you have these democratic senators, particularly in these red states saying they want to extend the sign-update. this has been a real disaster. and you wonder if the administration is setting themselves up again with this november 30th date when they say everything is going to be fine with this website, hard to believe that that actually is going to be true given the fact that so many things they have said about this plan haven't really come to pass. >> do you believe there was a fundamental lack of understanding, yes, people would go on and see if you're comparing apples to apples, old plan versus if they were required to sign up for more extensive plan that they would get so-called better health care but that would come at a slight higher cost, that the administration thought that people would say, okay, i get it. i'm paying a bit more but getting more in return from this. did he underestimate that wouldn't be satisfactory? >> i think they did underestimate that that wouldn't
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be satisfactory. i think they didn't want to go into the leads about what would happen. they seem to be in some way saying like, we're offering you this better plan, you should accept it and you should accept the fact that maybe it will be a little bit more expensive. people don't necessarily like to hear that. maybe they want to keep the plan they did have all that time and now they are finding out that they are not going to be able to do that. the white house has got to get positive stories out there. you've seen them try to do that with that press conference last week. they've been trying to do that for the last many years but it hasn't worked. now republicans have a real sort of talking point around obama care now. >> let me bring you back in as far as the insurance industry. you have -- there are reports that insurance executives are heading to the white house and having discussions they do not want to see in extension that's being pushed by a few democrats. they believe that would be
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detrimental, we don't need another insurance here. some looking at wall street and how they are faring, they are doing pretty good. you've always been concerned about the insurance executives and their influence here. what concerns you at this point? >> well, they are inordinately influ enshal. that's why the statement if you like your insurance you can keep it was so ill advised because it doesn't take into consideration how powerful these people are in washington and how much control they have over the health care system. it's important they go to the white house again. a delay into -- of some of the elements of the affordable care act would not be a good thing. i think they can work -- they have a great insen tif to work with the administration to make sure these problems are fixed and fixed quickly. >> let me bring in congressman bill pascrell. thanks for your time today. heated words directed at republicans today from you at this hearing, really calling on
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them when you said democrats who didn't vote for it were there to help constituents and people understand and capitalize on the benefits. sir, are you able to hear me, there? >> i can hear you, yes. >> talk to me about your challenge to republicans. you were quite unhappy with what you say was there inability or decision to support the health care law and push it ahead as democrats like yourself did in the bush years. >> ten years ago, i voted against the prescription drug bill because i thought it was lacking in many ways and big gap that twisted between folks playing premiums but not getting benefit of it. it took the affordable care act to clean that up. isn't that interesting? i want to know which republican is going to go tell seniors, we've got to take this away and go back to the old doughnut hole
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as it was called because we've got to destroy one way or the other the affordable care act. i said to each one of them, when we stood up after we voted and then said, look, we may not like this but we want to get good information out to seniors, no, we voted against it but they want us to have the facts so they can join the program. there are many, many problems with that program as it unfolded its first two years. then it smoothed out and people liked it, 90% of people like the program now because we changed it to make it more palatable, who is going to say, mr. president, we're one country, want to make this work, it's the law of the land? nobody. >> let me get your reaction to steny hoyer confirming what nbc news reported yesterday as well that there are some people, all be it a sliver, but there are some who will receive these cancellation notices and that
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the administration and democrats knew that under the affordable health care act that some americans who buy their own health insurance would not be able to keep plans they currently have. >> two things, if you go back last year, many received notices in the mail. their plans and policies would be canceled as of january 1st, which led many people to call back insurance companies because that's not the final decision. this year we'll have an option when they do that and people will be doing that. let's make a comparison between the plan that i had with my company, and what's available in my state depending upon whether the governor in the state cooperated with the process, what plans do i have that's better, that will give me more bang for my dollar and that suits my family or myself? i think that option is going to be very, very good. look, this is not a perfect piece of legislation, only god is perfect. what we're trying to do is make
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it better and it would be a lot better if we had the cooperation of republican governors and republicans in the house of representatives. we do not have that cooperation now. so we're going to have that hurdle to go over as well. i proudly voted for this. i knew it wasn't perfect. i have a lot of things i wanted in there that was not in there. i didn't step back and criticize it and kill everything. i tried to make it a better piece with the ways and means committee, which i serve on, try to write the legislation with health america. 35 million people in america don't have health insurance. some of them never had their company cover their insurance. they are workers many of them. some of them can't afford to work, they are disabled. if they are not covered by medicaid, that is why we need the affordable care act. we're going to make it better as we go along. but this legislation, anybody trying to criticize the rollout of this legislation is a joke that they didn't vote for or hasn't tried to help it since it's been voted on.
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>> i know you have a busy day but this is the one year anniversary of hurricane sandy devastating your home state of new jersey and new york as well. there's still plenty of rebuilding ahead. there are many stories of inspiration, as you well know, still a great struggle with people as i stated in your own home state right now. >> yes, don't forget 24% of the community development block grant money has not been spent in the state of new jersey, why the governor is sitting on the money, i don't know. to blame it on the federal government because of changes made after katrina, many changes were made because there was a lot of fraud in katrina. we want accountability for every dollar being spent. i have that responsibility as a congressman in every governor has the responsibility to make sure the money gets out as quickly as poblg to residents, whether they are individual homes or businesses, doesn't matter. whether they are towns with
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tremendous problems with the infrastructure. my job is to make sure the money goes to the people it was intended to do. we fought too hard for this. the governors of the states know how the delegations fought. they know who voted for it and who voted against it and it's ironic that those -- many of the people that voted against it have already repealed to the president and appealed to the federal government for aid, whether it's forest fires in one state, hurricanes in another, or crop failures in another. look, what's good for the goose is good for the gander, we're americans, one nation. please remember that. we can have debates back and forth. we don't want to end the age of controversy, but we want to make sure we're one nation. >> congressman pascrell, we greatly appreciate your time. >> pleasure to be with you. >> the director of the nsa and other top intelligence officials testifying at the hearing after it was revealed world leaders
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the spying programs conducted by the nsa under scrutiny again. the hearings were scheduled to deal with questions about the nsa domestic surveillance but the scope has been widened following revelations that the nsa has been targeting the phones of foreign leaders including many uz allies. testifying today, james clapper, deputy attorney general james cole and the dreker of the nsa, keith alexander.
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in a prepared statement, mr. clap clapper insisted the programs are legal. >> we do not spy indiscriminately on the citizens of any country. we only spy for valid foreign intelligence purposes as authorized by law with multiple layers of oversight to ensure we don't abuse our authorities. the director of the nsa also strongly defended the agency's program. take a listen. >> we see the threats that come into this nation. we see that a foreign agency is intended to see. prior to 9/11, we had no way of connecting those dots. everything we do on this program is auditing 100% on the business report fisa. 100%. >> the chair of the senate intelligence committee dianne feinstein been a lawyer defender of the nsa broken ranks with the agency and now calling for a
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full review of all of their surveillance programs. she quote, totally opposed to spying on u.s. allies and adds congress has not been kept in the loop. feinstein's counterpart, republican susan collins agrees in a statement she says, she notes there's no justification for collecting intel on leaders of our closest allies and said she will meet with the german ambassador tonight to say she is opposed to the phone tapping. we begin with capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell. the hearing is in a break but also a developing here, bipartisan group of senators looking ats something referred to as the u.s. freedom act, privacy bill. tell me more about this. >> reporter: good afternoon, tamron. there are both democrats and republicans in the house and senate talking about what could they do to make changes to how the programs work in order to bring public awareness and scrutiny and to answer the concerns that have been spelled out. it's at the very early stages,
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wanting to look at new oversight for what's known as the fisa court which does control what the nsa does. this hearing in a brief break while they do voting will resume in a bit and expect tough questions when it comes to spying on allies, like angela merkel. you'll hear a lot of defensiveness and i use that word carefully. there's a lot that the nsa and director of intelligence want to remind people about. it's the reason they engage in data collection in the first place. they immediately turn to 9/11 and what happened then and what they are trying to do to prevent that. they come to this, the head of the nsa saying he wanted to speak from his heart and talked about that. really putting forth a vigorous defense for the people who work at these agencies too. they did that knowing there were protesters sitting a few words behind from the group cold pink
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recode pink removed because of disruptions they brought to it. their message was stop spying on us. this is a time when the agencies and spy work highly classified to begin with is under this new level of public scrutiny and diplomatic ramifications with what's happening with our allies. when you have someone like dianne feinstein, one of the most fierce defenders and supporters of the intelligence community, when she has questions or doubts, that's a sign there's a p.r. problem they have to deal with. >> the hearing is resuming but let me bring in the nation's zoe carpenter. >> thank you. >> as we mentioned, this hearing resuming now, was initially to be focused on domestic spying, some of this metadata gathering, that includes many that showed over the weekend protesting the nsa and some supporting edward snowden here.
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this has broadened out and one of the big questions remains today, what information was provided to the president, particularly adds it relates to spying on our allies in the collection of data in that form. >> we don't know what kind of information the administration has. we heard them say they didn't have that information. dianne feinstein wasn't aware of the program. that is an interesting question. either way, it presents problems for the administration if they did know about it, why was that continued to allowed to go forward. if it didn't know about it, why is it oversight of these programs. >> let me play what adam schiff said. >> absolutely believe that the program in its current form for end and be restructured because we can get all of the same information to protect the country that we need to without getting this wealth of data. and all programs should be
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constitutional, effective and should be structured in a way to minimize any unnecessary intrusion on our privacy. >> what is the likelihood that the things that congressman schiff just discussed, that will turn into a reality as it seems more is piled on with the scope and actually the behavior behind the scenes? >> well, i think we'll need to have a serious investigation on the part of congress. what dianne feinstein called for would be welcome if it is a rigorous review. we can look to the church committee in the 1970s as an example of a series of public and classified hearings that really dove deeply into the different programs, intelligence programs. if we see something like that again, it really goes beyond the current revelations that we already seen through the snowden leaks. that would be useful and considering what reforms could proceed from there. >> so many of the debates in washington are divided right down the middle along party
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lines. what is an interesting component as it relates to the nsa and each and every time we discuss it, you have some republicans like peter king who say the president should not apologize and the nsa is in the right direction and others within his party who obviously disagree. senator feinstein to name one. but the same could be said about democrats as far as what they see should happen with the nsa and concerns expressed. >> senator feinstein is a democrat and we see a serious bipartisan shifting around here on this. but the coalition that's questioning the effectiveness of these programs, is very strong and i think that like this rally this weekend was representative spectrum of political opinions from libertarians to the green party, when justin put his amendment forward in the house, that had a strong bipartisan support. there are lots of people on both sides of the aisle very concerned about the implications of building this kind of
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surveillance infrastructure that could last for decades. >> which is what kelly o'donnell was reporting on as well, bipartisan support with one idea here. but the question i think a lot of people have at this point, whether or not the nsa aend yesterday, the concern that the nsa is not properly monitored and as some have referred to it, its own rogue agency here. >> we're certainly seeing indications of that with these allegations of spying on foreign leaders. if the president of united states wasn't aware and the chairwoman of the intelligence committee in the senate wasn't aware, that does bring up serious oversight issues. >> thank you for your time. we greatly appreciate it. >> coming up, sheila jackson lee will join me live after a federal judge's stunning move to put texas abortion law on hold. now the attorney general in texas has asked a court to immediately reinstate part of
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easily. >> reporter: certainly that's right, tamron, a lot of people that have been able to pick it back up and get back together and sort of find normalcy in their lives. but there are people that are still struggling. this is where a business once stood. we were here in the days after the storm hit when this town was just completely demolished. i say it's only a half mile wide. to give you a better idea, the ocean is three blocks away is the sh rues bury river. the storm came in like a thunder clap and demolished this town and sent everything into a spin cycle. this was the interior wall of a men's clothing shop. the sockets are still intact. they have not been able to rebuild this business. the one next door is also completely boarded up. there is some good news out here though, some businesses have been able to rebuild. the hardware store down here is open. it's been open for over 100 years. he was able to rebuild by taking out extra loans. his grant money -- still doesn't
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the president was clear about a basic fact. if you had insurance you liked on the individual market and wanted to keep that insurance, through 2010, 11, 12, '13, if you wanted it and it was available, you could. you were grandfathered in. >> that was white house press secretary jay carney a few moments ago. tomorrow health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius testifies before the house energy and commerce committee. it will be the first time she'll field questions. and joining me now live, senior political editor, mark murray, let's talk about in nbc report and the information we know and confirmation from sten y hoyer that you have individuals that will receive cancellation letters and won't keep their
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plan. those who bought individual health insurance make up a sliver of the overall market and the law now gives these people more substantial insurance and protections than they have before. that is the fact there but you still have individuals who have gone on the website and see in some cases their premium go up and make it more in return for that but it's not going down well, at least at this point. >> well, it all has to do with tradeoffs under this law and reform. when you look at the toe talty of the affordable care act, the people with preexisting conditions and people who have very expensive policies going to be so much better off than they were before the law. on the other hand you'll have people and folks you just highlighted, who ends up purchasing catastrophic health insurance on the cheap for the most part and they might actually have to pay more for these new protections. the overwhelming majority of people who get their insurance particularly from their employers aren't going to see
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much difference at all. that's the best way to understand all of the changes and reforms. we're really focusing on is a very small part, 3 to 5% of the total health insurance marketplace. and while president obama and his folk are on the defensive, particularly the comments he gave in 2009 and 20, it is a very small part. you have to understand the tradeoffs involved. >> let's transition as well to the hearing regarding the nsa underway right now. it is the tale of a day of two hearings, we know there's a follow-up tomorrow with kathleen sebelius, but with this nsa, who knows when this will end. especially when you consider edward snowden and his continuing leaks here in what may be around the corner for him. >> the obama administration is finding stuff on the offensive for a whole host of things, the story about people purchasing individual insurance and whether that's going to be the same as
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the insurance they previously had. nsa story. it wasn't too long ago we were talking about the government shutdown, how awful that was for the republican party, certainly how awful it was for a lot of people who found themselves without paychecks and a lot of services. but certainly the last two weeks have been a very big boom for the republican party and you've seen the obama administration and white house certainly on the defensive. >> with this -- for example, with the nsa, i don't know how it's necessarily a big boom for them because you do have rpz like peter king defending the administration and defending the president. there are not clear divided lines as we saw with the government shutdown and even early on with republicans who were hand in hand on fighting the health care law. >> tamron, let pe put it a different way. a lot of folks on capitol hill are all -- the more we talk about nsa and all of the glitches involved with the website and problems and flaws in the health care law, and
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you're for getting about the government shutdown, that is a very good day for the republican party. >> mark, we'll see what happens in this hearing and keep our audience up to date. we'll watch tomorrow and talk about kathleen sebelius and her testimony. abortion clinics in texas that were supposed to shut down today have instead started to take appointments after a federal judge struck down part of the state law restricting access. in his ruling, the judge found the provision requiring doctors providing abortions to have admitting privileges in nearby hospitals unconstitutional. the judge said it created an undue obstacle for women seeking terminations. the law would have affected a third of the state's 36 abortion clinics and now the state's attorney general is asking an appeals court for an emergency order to have restrictions reinstated. joining me now live is sheila jackson lee. thank you so much for your time. >> thank you for having me this afternoon. >> thank you. let's get your reaction to the fact that you have republicans
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in the state including the state's attorney general vowing the battle is not over. >> you're absolutely right. before i do that, may i offer my concern for the victims of hurricane sandy as you know we come from texas and experienced it and i wish them well in their recovery. this is an important question that has been raised before the court and it is sad to see general abbott wants to spend his time and tax paying dollars to use a futile grab on ideology to prevent women from having access to health care. these clinics are not forcing any procedures on any women. they are complying with the law under roe v. wade which gives women the right to choose. it also is a reflection on america's commitment to allowing women to have access to health care. many of these clinics have
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general health care provisions or services. and so today, the court recognized that we cannot throw women's health care to ideology. it must be the science. the court indicated that they sought no rational reason to require a clinic being in distance of a medical facility since many of these doctors are visiting doctors and it would have closed a third of the clinics but really it would have closed clinics in hard to access areas for women who need the services that these clinics would be governing. how our governor can state with the attorney general from the state of texas and call themselves representatives of the entire state and stand in the gap, if you will, blocking a constitutional right, the right of privacy, under the ninth amendment and protected under the roe v. wade case in 1973. this court opened the doors of
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privilege to women and rights of women by allowing these clinics to remain open. and in addition, indicated that the procedure using nonsurgical methods could be utilized in the case of the health and life of the mother. >> let me ask you what impact this could possibly have on governor's race with wendy davis, in the state and if the attorney general is vowing to continue this fight as he runs for governor as well. what impact might this have? >> well, you know, i've met senator davis, we have a very good meeting with her and members of congress. and senator davis is not a one issue candidate as you well know. she is fighting for the rights of families, women and children and better education. but she's fighting for the rights of access to health care. that was what her stand was about. it was a mighty stand and galvanizing stand but stand on the law. she was fighting to ensure that texas did not separate
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themselves from the nation and adhered to the roe v. wade law that is the law of the land. i think it's going to be enormously hurting to general abbott, obviously he's not concerned because he continues these futile attempts to deny women access to health care. our state has gone even further than that. they rejected medicaid dollars that planned parenthood received not for abortion but to provide health care to patientses around the state. i met the patients who indicated that they would not have any access to health care, this is preceding the affordable care act of course, if not for the clinics. i believe they have done what is right and not forced abortion on any one or raised abortion as a choice that women should take. it is only allowed the state of texas or force the state of texas to comply with the law of the land which is roe v. wade.
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new york's attorney general is investigating cases of racial foe filing for macy's and barneys after four shoppers are claiming they were detained after buying expensive items. this comes the same day barney's ceo mark lee sat down with reverend al sharpton and other leaders. macy's is maintaining none of the employees were involved in the detention questioning of actor robert brown suing the retailer after he said he was detained after buying an expensive watch for his mom. editor and chief michael skolnik joins us. you have a number of community leaders, what's going to come out of this you think? >> i think it was a good meeting. i understand from the reverend it was a positive meeting.
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we've been dealing with these issues far enough. driving or shopping while black, we have to reaffirm our commitment as a nation, not just as community leaders are but as a nation to end the disease of racism because this is too much. >> let's keep it to this shopping while black or shop and frisk as some people called it. what needs to be done as it relates to this component? >> well, i think barney's and mi macy's have to come clean with the american people of what are the policies. if mr. lee is saying they have nothing to do with this, let's look at party policies or macy's policies and look at when i young black person shops for a belt or bag, why are they being detained by undercover police officers when they leave. i don't get detained when i leave a department store and i'm white. we have to see a transparent
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policy from the retailers and look at it honestly and effectively and see what we can do to change these things. >> we have a lot going on today. i'm sure we'll talk with you about this and more issues and people can follow you on twitter and globalgrind.com. today's gut check is up next. whe one pepcid® when i could take tums® throughout the day when my heartburn comes back? 'cause you only have to take one... [ male announcer ] don't be like the burns. just one pepcid® complete works fast and lasts.
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