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trending. >> the democrat or republican wins a nomination. hillary clinton will talk about that and it's interesting to see what's behind that. >> they will go to the back seat. a-rod on sports radio. >> they had the diaper on it. you better believe it. i would always trust a goat with a diaper more than a-rod. what did you learn? >> i learned that chuck todd is up next and has a big show. karim adbul jabbar. all in the same show. >> casey affleck has a good movie. >> if it's way too early, it's "morning joe." you embarrassed all of us in front of our friend, casey. >> people saying i was rude to him. i was asking a question. i'm sorry. >> in mika's defense, don't confusion rude with clueless. it's two things. this is pop culture. pop culture. you are proud of that. if it's
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way too early, it's "morning joe." i want to say as always -- drive safely. in the senate as harry read is going to lead a push to change the rules for simple up or down majority votes on all presidential nominees with one exception. also this morning, we will talk to embattled governor about the scandal that rocked his final year in office and the investigation facing him as well as the tragedy that hit his former opponent. plus, 2012's highest roller places his bets against online gambling as many look to the web as a source of new tax revenue. he signs up a bipartisan brigade to fight for his cause.
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is he really worried about the expansion of gambling around the country. the new documentary on the 50th anniversary of president kennedy's assassination. democrats are poised to deploy the controversial nuclear option to change the rules of the senate and clear the way for several of president obama's judicial nominees blocked by continues. it seems as if there is no deal that is going to derail the action. they are going to start the procedure that would lead to a change in the chambers's filibuster rules. that would eliminate all executive appointments with the
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exception of the supreme court. to do so will require a simple majority vote, just 51. they will lose four of the 55 members. snag is likely and still pass it. he believes he does have the 51 votes, especially since he has now convinced dianne feinstein to on board this nuclear option train. she had been an influential hold out in the past. they could be approved with a simple majority. this follows growing frustration with senate republicans. to the d.c. circuit court of appeals. the supreme court litigator patricia millet and professor cornelia pillard and district court judge robert wilkins were nominated in june. all three were held up and democrats complain to republicans didn't bother opposing them on ideological grounds that they claim were blocked simply because the
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president chose them and they don't want to see the d.c. circuit somehow changed in its ideological make up. reid almost pulled the trigger on the nuclear option earlier and stepped back after republicans agreed to let some nominees through. once they are in control of the white house and the senate. again, what the democrats do here will have an exception for just supreme court nominees. all nominees will be for presidential appointments. this is not for legislation. it will be for presidential appointments and have a carve out for supreme court nominees which will still have to deal with the 60-vote threshold. they are saying hey, you do this and when they get the majority and the white house, they will then change the rules even for the supreme court. that will be developing all afternoon.
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that's going to rock washington and the senate. out in arizona, governors are desperate toy wrestle the party away from washington. they are wrapping up the two-day strategy meeting today in arizona. new jersey governor chris christie takes the reigns of the governor's association today said yesterday his fellow governors and donors are excited by the prospect of his leadership. >> there people who are excited should. >> everyone is laser focused on 2014. do the best job you can. >> it's clear everything christie does is through a prism, but he has to be careful not to be too handed about it. christie has been warned he can't repeat mitt romney's mistake when he was at the helm in 2006 before his first
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presidential run. republicans at the time were resentful when it looked like romney was more worried about using his role as a platform to run for president stashing fund-raisers and things like that. he called christie a theorist and wants to flirt with 2016 himself. he has one other thing going for him called celebrity. that's a big deal in america today. another potential christie rival was a bit less enthusiastic. >> i know everyone wants to do a story about 2016, but the way to do that is win the next election. not the next next election. >> they are setting the table for the next next race. trying to pin failures on the
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democrat they fair they will be running against in 2016. >> what would have thought this was going to work? i just have to tell you, this is really hillary care. the fact of the matter is this was tried. >> there you go. trying to brand something you won't hear in 2016. called hillary care. perhaps. overall republican governors desperate to rebrand the party are not just distancing themselves from washington. they are also arguing that conservatism can be pragmatic and compassionate. >> they are striking a less confrontational tone towards the president.
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>> frankly, no need to talk negatively about the president of the united states. he is taking care of that pretty much on his own with his health care program. what are the alternatives? >> governors have mostly been insulated from the wrath of the base inside the republican party. washington republicans that are on the ballot in 2014, they are feeling it and feeing it big time. they're being punished just for that same pragmatism that the governors were talking about. the problem solving idea that governors are selling. look at the newest challenger to lindsay graham, the fourth challenger. he ran and lot of in the 2010 race for the lieutenant governor. he is up with a web video. what's interesting about it is when you watch it, you see you can picture the 30-second ads that a lot of these republicans against graham are going to put together like a blueprint. >> i don't do this much, but i want to thank ted kennedy.
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>> you made the right call today. we helped president obama when he needed our help the most. >> the question on every conservative's mind, how do we beat lindsay graham? >> i do not believe that question deserves an answer. >> to win we have to remember that. >> doing something that is weak is just as bad as doing nothing. >> the point is the governors haven't had to deal with this the way washington republicans have had to deal with this. tim scott also happens to be on the ballot next year. he declined to endorse graham. he said this. i will make sure that tim scott gets elected. that will change and the anger is a preview of coming attractions. will the governors be ready?
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bob mcdonald joins me at the rga conference as governor of virginia. good morning, sir. >> hey, chuck. >> i want to start with the review that you put in motion having to do with the events that led to what happened. the day before this incident took place. he took his own life. he was going to be -- he was found to be mentally unstable and needed to be hospitalized and supposedly a bed couldn't be found. what more do you know and what do you hope to find with this review. >> i ran against him as a decent honorable man and a family man to have this tragedy in our
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legislative that has been heart breaking. he tried to do something for his son on monday and the system doesn't it's too early to rush to judgment. what i have done is order the secretary of health and human resources and to make recommendations and the budget i have to put together here in the last three weeks. if there is new resources needed, there is more coordination and communication between state and local agencies. we will do that. our inspector general is doing a review. we will get to the bottom of what could have gone better. it's too early and the facts are being gathered. everyone is praying for him to make a full recovery. >> in his first interview after losing the governor's race, ken cuccinelli attributed his loss
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partly to you. he said basically if it wasn't for the ethics scandal that dogged you in the administration, he could have made better arguments and could have campaigned with you. obviously your policies have seen good job ratings with the virginia public. they seemed to have caused problems. do you agree with the assessment that you this ethics scandal that dogged you was partially to blame. >> listen, every candidate has to make a decision how they want to run the campaign and what image they want to project to the public. ken ran a spirited race and fell short by a couple of points. what we saw was the government shut down which i strongly oppose about five weeks out. caused a really significant shift where we have a lot of federal workers. that was probably the biggest
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factor along with a great money deficit as well. >> i would say that was the reason. >> you don't take any responsibility? >> listen, i have taken responsibility for things that i would have done differently. i repaid loans. everything i think we did was compliant with the law. i'm a governor. i don't want to play pundit about what happened. when you lose you can say things that should have been done differently. i undermined trust in people and i apologized and certainly can do things differently and we need to change the rule in virginia to provide clarity and office holders alike. that reform is necessary. >> i have to ask you, what did you think johnny williams will give you all these gifts. giving your wife all these
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gifts. >> i don't think it's necessary at this point to get into how it is outlined. much of the reporting has not been accurate. >> we have time to correct it. what has not been accurate? multiple things. as long as there other reviews, i don't think it would be appropriate. i have said a couple of things. i have never done anything to abuse my office. i made the right decisions for people whether they have been donors or not. there have been nothing for anyone else. i'm not focusing on this. i know people like to talk about these things, but i focus on being a good governor for virginia. we had major progress on a lot of important things for transportation to higher form.
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i'm not going to let that dissuade me. i have transition to get done and a budget to put together and major reforms to finish. the other people will make the decisions. >> you talked about it and that's some of the most lax ethics laws in the country when you compare to the 50 states. they are getting real reform passed into virginia and it hadn't hurt my ability to govern. many people may want to talk about it, but the same thing i have done for four years. getting people to work in a bipartisan way and solving problems. we have major reforms
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accomplished and virginia has the record surpluses and the lowest unemployment rate and we're still getting big things done with democrats and republicans working together. i would disagree with the contention and your points. i said we will have proposals on ethics reform and we will be helpful for virginia for the benefit of office holders for the people and the lobbyists. things need to be done and i have ideas that need to advance. what's one big change that you think is necessary? >> i think we pushed the limits on the dollar value. i think the times between lobbyists and office holders and the forms are unclear. the definitions from everything to what is a corporate loan. many things will be outlined and we will have proposals here
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soon. i'm worried about how to make virginia better. that's my plan. we roll have a smooth and good transition. >> virginia governor bob mcdonald. we have a race to a break here. see you right after the break. bl
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less than a year into his first term, trey ra dell is taking a leave of absence after pleading guilt tow charges of cocaine possession. he apologized to his family and constituents. >> i am here tonight to take responsibility for what i did.
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to be held accountable for the bad decisions i made in my life and to own up to my actions. >> he thinks it's a year of probation will undergo substance abuse treatment after admitting he bought cocaine. it puts the leadership in a bit of a spot. he wasn't even told about the arrest until tuesday. three weeks after it happened. nevertheless at this point boehner and his deputies seem to be treating it as a legal and personal matter and not urging him to resign. the home toutown paper endorsed when he ran for election the first time. they called for him to step douchblt a bunch of opponents are popping up. don't be surprised if he ends up running. they're thinking about running and there is a lot going on there. boehner and his press conference, don't be surprised if he gets tougher.
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coming up, he is cashing in political chips and placing a big monostopping gambling. just as states are trying to rake in more revenue. that's next. he has been motivated by his own vegas casinos and today's trivia question, who claimed to have used poker winnings to help fund his first race for congress in 1946? first person to tweet the correct answer will get the on air shout out. the answer and more is is coming up. bl ♪ ♪
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online gambling that state and federal officials are itching to get their hands on. new jersey will hold a five-day test run for online gambling. the roll out begins tuesday when
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several atlantic city casinos launch online versions and making new jersey the third state in the country to legalize internet gambling. chris christie predicts a windfall for good reason. they are planning to tax the revenue from those games at 15%. according to christie's administration, that could bring in more tax revenue in the first fiscal year alone. for others it's small, but still significant. where online gambling went live, tax rates vary, but revenues are expected to be around $5 million. in nevada online gaming was launched in april, but confined at just online poker and run by only a handful of operators. gross revenue taxed at 6.75%, same as casinos. estimates start at $3 million a year. at least two bills have been introduced. one would force them to hand over 12 cents of every dollar
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they get and four cents from the feds. quite a shift from a few years ago when it was illegal in america. up until 2011, horse racing was the only online wager. the justice department opened up a giant loophole issuing an opinion that said the law only applies to sports betting and not poker games. not everyone wants it to spread. believe it or not, one of the loudest voices is coming from an online source. addleson kept newt gingrich alive and said this is his new passion. despite making millions, he said online gambling is a danger to society. particularly the young people. if you are looking for an ulterior motive, morgan stanley estimates online gambling could be a $9 billion business in
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2020. that's more than vegas and atlantic city combined. they insist the business could be limit and only looking out for the good of the country. three national cochairs of addleson that is hired to stop internet gambling. former new york governor and former denver mayor webb. i want to start with you. this issue of looking for new resources of tax revenue for state by state governors is something that is -- it made me assume that online sports gaming too is inevitable that it's coming. why let them go overseas. if you were a governor, why wouldn't you be in favor of expanding online gaming. >> this is one of the worst ideas i have seen in sometime. to raise revenue by having people lose money in my opinion is not the right thing for
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america or any state to do. >> why do you support a lottery? >> why do i support a lottery? when i became governor. it was a preexisting operation. it's done fine, but i don't think it's a good idea and i don't think this is a good idea. by the way, a lottery, you buy a ticket and you see if you win. internet gambling, we have no way to control the flow of money. we have no way to decide whether or not this is legitimate or kids or whether this is terrorist operations laundering money so that they can have a semi legitimate source. law enforcement and parents have great concerns and i share those concerns. >> senator, again, i guess i look at gambling and it seems as if what's the difference here?
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online gambling, you can gamble legally on horse races and you can't on poker or black jack or roulette? what's the difference? >> what the governor is talking about is absolutely right. the biggest problem we have is a big difference between walking into a casino and going to a horse race and walking around with a casino in your pocket 24-7. when you are talking about what states gain, we have to look and see what do families lose and the economy loses. it's so unbelievably quick when you get on to these online gaming things. people can lose money without knowing that they have made a commitment. it's a tremendous amount of money. what it means to our children, i did an internet safety bill when i was in the senate. we have to be careful. the internet can bring tremendous advantages to our children and also be very, very dangerous. this is a dangerous aspect. we are calling for a time out.
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this law was changed or readdressed by the justice department in 2011. two days before christmas. with no input from the public or the congress. >> mr. mayor, out west particularly. there has been expansion of casinos all-around. opponents have this same argument that you guys have on the internet. i guess it's sort of like why is it okay to expand gambling physically and casinos on indian reservations and things like that. why is it not okay to do it on the internet? it seems like a distinction without a difference. >> the major difference is that interstate gambling through the internet, one is that you can't control it. it's hard to enforce. you bring it into a person's pocket. you have kids and anyone with access to it. those that are most vulnerable
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are going to suffer than have any kind of gambling addiction. we have three mountain towns that they go to because we voted to limit the amount of gaming we will have. you have to go there. the people that work there. the employees between tourism and entertainment and gaming. there is a sense of purpose when you go there. this way you don't have to leave your family room or bedroom. you can begin on your iphone or kids can have the iphone and i'm sure parents had that problem doing a lot of things they shouldn't be doing. now they will have them doing interstate gambling. >> why should we believe the motives or anything other than fear of losing las vegas as a destination. >> take a look at what new jersey is doing. they are benefiting because they are sharing in the revenue. no reason why he couldn't get involved in the internet gambling if he chose to.
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this is destructive of families. it can't be controlled properly. it's going to hurt jobs and there is a big difference between having a destination where you make a conscious decision to go and coming home half loaded at 1:00 in the morning with your iphone and saying i'm broke. why don't i put the rent money on 27. that's not a good idea. he understands that is a terrible idea. >> i would go back. there is keno online and all these other gambling online. offshore things that can be done here. this toothpaste appears to be out of the tube. >> the key here in what we are asking for is that we put the jeannie back in the bottle as quickly as we can and take the time out and give congress and the public an opportunity to figure out can we do this safely? the fbi has written to congress and said there so many risks involved. you had 48 out of 50 attorney generals in 2006 write a letter
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to say they didn't want to see internet gambling. there was too much of it that we can't get our arms around. it's going to be a problem and just as the governor said, families see the devastation, the debt that is going to be created. a totally different direction and we need to see our economies and families going. >> we can say that about all gambling and gaming, but what about the taxes and all this money that is going offshore. they should be brought into the united states. >> let me say this. you have to have some limits. we kent believe in a philosophy that anything goes and everything goes. everything can't be for sale. we need to have limits. we have to have limits and those limits say in this case there needs to be a time out and we need to push back on the expangsz of internet gambling and stop it before it comes a national epidemic and do it now.
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>> thank you for all doing this together. it will be interesting to follow this debate. i appreciate your time. up next, i have tom brocaw. he has everyone from jane fonda and john kerry about memories on the day president kennedy was assassinated. he is joining me next. ready to run your lines? okay, who helps you focus on your recovery? yo, yo, yo. aflac. wow. [ under his breath ] that was horrible. pays you cash when you're sick or hurt? [ japanese accent ] aflac.
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continuing our coverage with a question. where were you the day jfk died? nbc news's special correspondent got powerful answers in his new documentary. >> where were you when you heard that john f. kennedy had been assassinated? >> just even the question still --
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>> it was almost like a frozen frame in time. everybody on the campus instead of people running and saying did you hear? there were quiet groups of people saying can that be true? you see five students in the corner and we sat in the car. you see people in the hall way. it was almost like you said it out loud. >> i remember just completely disconnecting from the day. it was just a shock. everybody just felt -- what are we doing? we are playing a soccer game and the president has been shot. >> i went outside on the private porch and cried for a while. i think the first time i had really wept for more than ten years. the last time before that was when my father died. >> joining me now is special correspondent tom brocaw.
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seeing the clips, i'm looking forward to the full documentary. it is a reminder that the kennedy assassination was the first time we collectively experienced something at the same time. it was the 50 time television brought the country and that's what made this whole -- the answers all struck me as -- >> that was a defining moment as well. you cannot overstate the experience of the introduction of the television age. first of all, john f. kennedy was a perfect politician and image for the television age. he was so handsome and knew how to use the camera. a lot of the trust about him and his wit and how he moved through washington. at the same time television was in every corner of every living room in america and every bar so
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people felt connected with the president in a way they had not in the past. for him, the vibrant young man to be taken so violently, it did have exactly what you saw there. that devastating effect on people whether they were republicans or democrats. >> and whether they were famous or not and at the time there was one part here, i want to move forward, you have an interesting interview with a man named john brewer, the person who pointed out and basically followed lee harvey oswald after the assassination. let me get you to talk about this. >> john brewer, the shoe store manager saw him peering through the window as police were combing the neighborhood. >> what made you follow him? >> just a feeling i had that
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something was wrong with this picture. why do you pretend to be shopping for shoes when all of this commotion was going on? >> see something, say something. >> i was going to say that he was really one of the most interesting and fascinating characters in this film. he was only 21 years old when lee harvey oswald showed up having just shot him. some thing it's in dispute. it isn't. he shot four shots and he is looking into the window while everyone was rushing to where he had been killed. brewer looked at this guy and thought how can he be doing this when there was this chaos and followed him into a movie theater and called police. a lot more happened after that. harvey oswald was arrested in the movie theater. would he have gotten away? i doubt it. there was a distribute that no one seemed to know what he had
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in mind, but it changed his to the point that he left the business and went into the navy for a while and he went out of sight in texas. this was one of the few times that he talked about it. he came to grips with the role he played in that important moment of history. he was in the middle of it. he pulled his weapon in the movie theater. it's high drama. >> i passed on something before. a long time observer. he put together this wonderful look of what america was politically and where jfk was and where america was essentially on the day that kennedy was shot. it is sort of -- it really is a lot of people are going to ask why are we spending so much? is this baby boomer reflection? that day changed the trajectory of america.
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it's so clear. >> here's what i don't know. whether it was that moment that changed it or whether the boomers were bumping up against their world war ii values of parents who came home from the war with a different attitude about how should be lived and the world was changing. when john f. kennedy died, we were the dominant manufacturing company in the world. there was no china. japan's economy had not yet taken hold in that way. we didn't have a lot of people commenting 24-7 on cable and radio and blogs and every decision that the president made. he was given a certain amount of room to run his administration. at the same time there was a feeling out of world war ii. we had won with the help of the russians obviously. there was something in this country that we can do anything we want to and the president tapped into that saying we are going go to the moon and have the peace corps. ask not what your government can do for you.
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i was 21 years old when he was elected. i got a job right away and i don't remember my classmates wherever they were in standings not getting a job. there were lots of jobs available and it was still middle class america. you can get a living wage at that time and live well. >> tom brocaw. nobody better to be helping us through this 50th anniversary week. thank you, sir. you can watch tom's special. where were you the day john f. kennedy died? it will be tomorrow night on nbc. get your dvrs checked. check out the online interactive experience. hours of personal stories and reflections. you can get lot of in this all all day. trust me. the data bank is next. coming up, of course my thursday take away. new details about the number of u.s. troops that will remain in afghanistan after the car comes to an end in 2014.
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back now with today's data bank and a quick check on a few numbers. a huge plane and a tiny runway and a new island and promise. we start with the number 16. that's the number of u.s. states that legalized same-sex marriage. illinois governor pat quinn signed the bill into law yesterday. they signed a similar law just last week. there is your 16 states. 7.3 is the number of files by which one of the largest cargo planes in the world missed the intended airport last night. a boeing dream lifter was supposed to land at mcconnell air fore base and ended up safely on the ground at the
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gibarra airport instead. the plane has been stuck for hours. next up, 60 is the percentage of new tech hires who were women between january and september. women still hold just 37% of the jobs in the tech industry overall and still lag behind men in pay in that sector, but a huge jump this year. up next, 660. that's the number of feet in diameter of japan's newest island. a volcanic eruption has raised the new baby island about 600 miles south of tokyo. how about that? japan just getting bigger just when we thought it was falling into the ocean. now for something completely different. 2750. that's the starting price in pounds for tickets to monty python's new stage show, the famed comedy group announced their reunion in london's west end. so a whole bunch of jokes that
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most people don't get now can be seen for $27.50. i'm sort of on the fence on monty python. sometimes i like him. >> richard nixon. he beat five-term democratic congressman, jerry voorhies. congratulations to today's winner, jeffrey skinner. tend your answers to the daily rundown at msnbc.com. we'll be right back. my mantra? family first.
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time now for the thursday takeaway and it's afghanistan. afghan president hamid karzai announced he is being bahhing the security agreement with the united states so that once the u.s.-led combat mission formally concludes at the end of next year it means there will be a u.s. presence in the country
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still. karzai said with the support of the elders and his parliament the agreement would be signed after next spring's election. but what is the agreement? the agreement means there will be u.s. troops in afghanistan potentially for another ten years. the white house says that the president is pushing back against a "new york times" report and our own reporting from yesterday that said american forces would say in afghanistan until 2024. an official said it does not address the number of u.s. forces that may be present in afghanistan after 2014 nor does it commit to any specified number of force. the president is reviewing options from the national security team and has not made a decision, but the size, scope and duration of a possible u.s. presence after 2014, but as we reported first yesterday and first read, the idea of keeping a residual force, while that's not surprising, we kind of knew that there would be a residual force there to train local troops and also serve as a buffer to pakistan and deal with some issues with
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counterterrorism. the question is 10,000 troop, 8,000 troops, is that going go over well? guess what? it's not going go over well. what is surprising is the growing bipartisan coalition that is opposed to any action that would leave a large number of troops in afghanistan. john merkley and mark begich, and as a condition for any american troop presence past 2014. this is the same coalition we saw during the syrian debate and the issue. this is the cautious isolationists. expect this coalition to continue challenging the status quo of foreign policy going forward. this isn't going to be an easy issue for the president to sell to the u.s. senate. that's it for this edition of "the daily rundown." we'll see you tomorrow. chris jansing takes the baton. bye-bye. i remember the day my doctor said i had diabetes.
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good morning. i'm chris jansing. today there's a change at the top of the republican party. his name is chris christie and he's about to become the head of the influential republican governors association at the annual meeting in arizona. christie will be in charge of keeping 30 governors mansions red and not one to ever settle, he has his sights set on six more. that's 36 governors races he thinks the gop could win. of course, along the way, he can rack up a lot of political ious should he run for president in 2016. and there does seem to be a growing consensus within the party that the nomination should not come from washington. >> i think both the presidential and the vice presidential nominee should be a former or current governor. >> i don't think anyone should become president that they haven't been a governor first. >> there's been discussion among the governors that the next pr