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day when the world lost not one but two of the greatest people. thanks so much for watching. my friend and colleague ed schultz is next with "the ed show." good evening americans and welcome to the ed show live from new york. let's get to work. >> the latest on their efforts to tear down obama care. >> we should not be judged on how many new laws we create. >> start from scratch addressing health insurance problems but not the way they've done. >> fire in the hole! >> we ought to be judged on how many laws we repeal. >> let's start from scratch. >> republicans are willing to destroy this country for the right reasons. >> you don't think we have a responsibility as a u.s. senator to do better than that in terms of offering a solution for what to do next? >> well, i -- i --. >> just simple, straight forward
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fact-based ah! >> dismantled piece by piece with every tool that they have. >> jim, bring down the crowd hammer. >> this will be a story of an epic collapse. >> fire in the hole! >> well, i -- i --. >> the full weight of the evil of obama care is going to end up being a wrecking ball so big not even miley cyrus would ride it. >> well, i -- i. >> i'm going to repeal the law of the land. is that clear? >> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. i know all of the liberals in the community are all excited about the senate rules being changed when it comes to filibusters. i'm not as excited as maybe you are. i'll explain later on in this broadcast. i've got to start with health care because we are gaining momentum as the website continues to get better every day. i want to focus on this number if i may.
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that is 15%. apparently the conservatives are really concerned about all the rates going up for health care. focus on this number. if somebody told you you could get 15% return on your money would you think, well that's pretty good? no, no. i got a deal for you. you take your money and you invest it. i can guarantee you a 15% return on investment. i think anybody would take that in a heart beat. this is the average increase of health care costs over the last 15 years. the republicans and the conservatives are acting as if, oh, no. my rates are going up. they've been going up for a long, long time. over the last three years they dipped quite a bit. we'll bring you the number later. so rates are a big concern. then of course the cancellation notices have everybody all up tight on the right. as if insurance companies never started canceling anybody or
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sent out any notices until barack obama was in the white house. let me tell you what the republicans are really good at. republicans are horrible at building things but they are great at tearing stuff down. and not giving any direct plans for where the country should go. keep in mind this is a generational fight. democrats built and passed this law called obama care. there is no doubt this law is going to insure millions of americans and our stories are going to outweigh theirs. republicans have done absolutely nothing but try to destroy this law from the start. now they want to start all over again. they want to start all over again because they know they are missing out on something good. this is a generational shift in america. it is going to bring in the young demographics of this country to realize this country can do great things. they have offered over on the right absolutely nothing but negativity. kids today are fighting for the younger generation. kids today are positive.
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they don't like negative stuff, antithis, antithat. this is all these guys are. this is why they're not pulling well anywhere. a republican attack plan now is laser focused on obama care. folks this, is what they spend their time on. majority leader eric cantor has put together a new playbook. it's a handy republican playbook too. synchronize all the attacks on obama care. let's get on the same page. we are not done with this yet. the playbook wants republicans to focus on things like because of obama care i lost my insurance. that is going to be one of the great talking points coming out from the righties in the house. the other one is, obama care increases health care costs as if it's never happened before. and of course the exchange may not be secure because it is putting personal information at risk. this is what they are doing. this is their plan. this is why ted cruz can't answer directly what do you want to do?
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this is what they want to do. all of these bogus talking points and lies have been debunked on this program time and time again. meanwhile republicans are already out there repeating more lies. >> every day we hear heart wrenching stories from americans. we're getting letters about their health care plans being canceled. or the cost of their new plan has skyrocketed. >> right now health care.gov screams to those who are trying to break into the system if you'd like my health care info maybe you can steal it. >> premiums are going right through the roof. >> moms and dads are worried that they're going to lose their health care plan. >> you won't be able to keep your doctor. >> individuals who are going on to the health care.gov website are beginning to fear that perhaps their identity will be stolen. >> folks, that's all they have. they don't have the intestinal fortitude or the intelligence to go behind closed doors and say, this is our plan. this is far better. they can't compete on that level. they don't have anything for
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people with preexisting conditions. that's how fundamentally flawed they are. and their rates are going up and people are getting gut wrenching notices at home. you know what these people are getting at home? a notice that their insurance sucks and obama care in the exchange and in the state exchange if you're living in the state that's lucky enough and smart enough to do the exchange is going to be a heck of a lot better. in most cases it is going to be less expensive. eric cantor's playbook also stresses the importance of social media. let's get the attack plan together. it urges republican lawmakers to execute messages across all platforms of the social media. this includes twitter, facebook, youtube, and instagram. all that stuff. even instagram. even down to the fundamental stuff. all good. this is all they have. republicans even created a website where people can go and complain about obama care. you see, they hope to gather the real stories of people losing
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their insurance. think about that. this is in the playbook. they have created a website so they will be able to go out and create stories. you're going to be able to go to their website. it was just so gut wrenching when i got this letter from the insurance company that didn't cover anything anyway. or you can go to the democratic website put out by the folks behind obama care and hear a story of maybe a 5-year-old kid that got insurance that didn't have it because he or she had cancer. you see, 41 million stories are going to outdo anything that the republicans bring to the table. what the website doesn't tell you is you can get a better deal if you sign up with obama care or a state exchange. this playbook is just the latest chapter in republican obstruction of progress in this country. democrats built the law from ground up. republicans are now doing everything they can to come up with a wrecking ball that will
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take us to destruction and take us back to the days where the insurance companies have what? absolute power. power over you. hey, i got a good one for you. an insurance take over. that's what it would be and where the republicans are. they want to bring back the days when coverage could be denied for a preexisting condition. they want to bring back the days where lifetime limits on coverage, well we can't have that anymore. they want to kick young adults off their parents' policies. republicans have nothing to offer as an alternative whatsoever. meanwhile, this is just the latest chapter in obstruction from republicans. the day president obama was elected in 2008 what did republicans do? they immediately went to it, they went right on back there and got together and started running their planning of obstruction. they vowed to block everything
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this president put forward. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell made it his very goal. >> our top political priority over the next two years should be to deny president obama a second term. >> how about that for a cancellation notice? huh? republicans couldn't make president obama a one-term president so now what they're doing is everything in their power to tear down the signature legislation known as obama care. what do you think is going to be more impactful, a bunch of negative nellies telling lies on a republican website or 41 million americans with real life stories about how things have been changed around and lives saved and families turned around and strengthened? this is what obama care is about. if the website was perfect based on the character of the people on the right if the website was perfect do you think they would
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give it any credit? do you think they'd come up with anything else to try to destroy obama care? yes they would. you can see them from a mile away. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. are republicans only invested in the destruction of obama care? text a for yes b for no to 67622. or go to our blog and we'll bring you the results later in the show. just remember, they have a playbook to destroy something that is going to save lives. how the hell do you win that argument? you lie to the people. for more let me bring in congressman elijah cummings from maryland. great to have you with us. >> good to be with you, ed. >> your reaction to the latest gop playbook of lies, the strategy and the bullet points they have orchestrated and put together with the social media to destroy something, what does it tell you about them and their motives? >> it doesn't surprise me.
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this is the second playbook, the first playbook basically had a lot of information again about how to talk negatively about the affordable care act but this has been what they've been all about all the time. keep in mind we got no cooperation from them when we were trying to pass the law. they've now voted over 40 times to destroy it. this is nothing new. as a matter of fact, chairman issa of my committee has just set up four hearings in states in arizona, north carolina, texas, and georgia. where they are going to hold so-called hearings to hear about the affordable acare act and do exactly what you just said. they'll go out and listen to people who may be complaining. the interesting thing about this, those four states average one of every five people with no
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insurance which is amazing. they don't hear from them. >> also those states have not set up the state exchanges either. >> exactly right. >> they are going to where obama care has been denied. >> right. >> they're going to the belly of the beast so to speak. >> right. >> and the fact is that the republicans are going to try to out story tell should we say in our industry there is an actuality, a sound bite. >> yes. they are going to try to out actuality the democrats with, quote, real stories. what are the democrats going to do? >> the democrats have set up sessions throughout the country and just about more than half our districts if we're going into our districts and trying to make sure people get signed up. after all we did pass this law to help people. it is the law. we want to make sure we make it work. keep in mind back in 2005 when we were dealing with medicare part d the prescription drug
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program we did the same thing. we went out there though we weren't in total agreement with the law and it was having website problems we went out and held sessions because we wanted to make sure our constituents were protected. >> think about this. elected officials are going to take their time and effort to go orchestrate negative impact hearings across the country. how regressive could that be? what kind of mindset do you have to be in to go out and look for people who are going to come to a bitch session and that is exactly what it is going to be, what they're looking for. >> you know what? the sad part about it, they're going to be using our tax dollars to do that. >> exactly. >> they are not going to move anything forward or any legislation forward on this. all they're going to do is
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collect negative material to throw it at the president. in the meantime you are telling me the democrats are going to set up infrastructure to get people signed up that is what we're supposed to do, ed. >> yeah. >> i didn't come here to washington to throw my constituents under the bus. i came here to lift them up. if we pass a law giving them an opportunity to purchase insurance, and i want to make sure they're informed, i want to make sure that they find a way to make sure they get insurance. that's what we voted for. and so that's my job. that should be all of our jobs. >> this is a heavy generational lift. if we want to go back. >> yes. >> as other presidents have tried to do this in the past, i mean, if you want to go back to the clinton years early on, they had a democratic house. they didn't even get a vote on health care in the house. is that correct? >> that's exactly right. and let me tell you, ed, as far as i'm concerned, all of us, we don't have the right to remain silent with regard to making
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sure that our constituents get insurance. >> yeah. >> that is what we voted for and that is the law. >> congressman elijah cummings great to have you with us, and keep up the fight, my friend. thank you. >> happy thanksgiving to you and yours. >> you can count on me eating turkey. i guarantee you that. remember to answer tonight's question there at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter and at ed show and on facebook. like us. we like that. we want to know what you think all the time. thanks for the tweets coming. coming up, oxford. names the 2013 word of the year. i have to admit i think my trip might have had an impact and inspired them over in london to pick this word. plus, republicans are warming up for round two of the shutdown showdown.
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welcome back. love hearing from you. i was thinking if the republicans are going to use social media maybe we should use social media a little more here on the ed show about stories. just throwing this out so you can tweet us. the misinformation campaign being put out by republican operatives when they put it in the twitter world maybe we should take them off twitter and put them right here on the ed show and then straighten them out. we'll make them famous for being liars because there are a bunch of lies in the twitter world about obama care. the first question from ron wagner. he says why is isn't the democratic party doing a better job of selling the affordable care act? couple things. number one this is a marathon not a sprint. if you actually listen to what the democrats and the lawmakers are saying about the affordable care act and listen to the stories of people getting covered in a much better way
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maybe you wouldn't think the democratic party isn't doing a better job of selling. our industry, it is innate that we look for controversy. it is i guess you could say the pillars of the business that controversy sells and a negative story always seems to get a heck of a lot more attention. there is a lot of positive stuff about somebody who couldn't see a doctor but now can. the other thing, a lot of conversation on the right about people saying well we'll lose our doctor. really? you'll lose your doctor. is that for sure? >> no it's not. that is another scare tactic. by then they say we don't have a choice. really? what about the 41 million people who don't have health insurance when they go to the emergency room do they have a choice of doctor or just get the guy who is on call? our next question comes from tom who wants to know, why did it take so long for harry reid to grow a pair?
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well i don't know. i always thought harry was a man. just kidding. i know what you're saying. why didn't the democrats go further sooner on this? well, honestly, the statesmen on the left are thinking some day this pendulum could swing and it could really screw up the statesmanship of the united states senate but of course the republicans are taking care of that. i'll have more to say about this later in the broadcast tonight. we are talking about the filibuster rules that are changing. i wish we'd done it sooner on a legislative level because i think we'd probably have universal health care by now. stick around. a lot more coming up.
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friday noon to 3:00 p.m. although i was on secret assignment today. i'll be back tomorrow on the radio and the ed tour 2014 first stops in february. that will be in fort lauderdale and in seattle. looking forward to it. go to my website. find out more. the ed show social media nation has decided we are reporting. here are today's top trenders voted on by you. , come on. give it to me. go. >> the number three trender self-ie spotlight. >> oxford is out with its word of the year and it is selfie a photograph one has taken of one'sself. >> after my visit to oxford they're making selfye the word of the year. >> the portrait of choice for the internet age. >> the happy smile. >> the people's selfie. >> chosen as their word of the year after its use grew by
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17,000% in 12 months. >> i wonder if i had anything to do with it. the number two trender, rick's picks. how do you go from someone who is a culture warrior calling out the crimes of hollywood? >> the devil for a long, long time has had these screens for his playground. >> to being part of the problem? >> meet rick santorum, the movie executive. colbert blows out hollywood hotshot rick santorum's movie plot. >> the town with a set of miraculous candles so the true meaning of christmas. >> not really. it's not like voodoo stuff. >> now go to voodoo let you do. >> miraculous candles isn't voodoo. it's hannukah. >> today's top trender looking a lot like shutdown. >> january 15 will put us at the front door of another budget shutdown. >> sorry we're closed. >> republicans have no plans to
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prevent it from happening. >> it is without a vision. >> quite frankly it stinks. >> america's top cheese head is running for the hills. ryan is failing to present a gop proposal. >> i am the owner of this --. of -- of this mess. >> so our job is to listen to the american people. >> i don't know. if chairman paul ryan and speaker boehner are listening. >> as the clock ticks closer to december 13th deadline for a bipartisan deal. >> we're trying to find common ground but we're not there yet. >> joining us tonight congressman steny hoyer of maryland the house democratic whip. good to have you with us tonight. >> always good to be with you, ed. >> you bet. he guess we better check in. where are we? are we getting close to a deal? having any conversations on this? do you think we'll see a deal by the deadline? >> well, i certainly hope so. shutdown is unacceptable. certainly defeating on our debt is unacceptable. we've had a long time to come to
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agreement. republicans refused to go to conference. we are now in conference. i talked to senator murray yesterday. she believes positive conversations are occurring. she didn't go into specifics and we have no deal at this point in time so it is getting very, very late. i had urged the budget conference to report out a compromise by the -- by this break by the 22nd which is tomorrow. that has not happened and appears it will not happen. as you know all the republican chairs of the appropriations subcommittee urged the budget committee to get a deal. >> yeah. >> which gave them relief from the sequester which is hurting our national security and our economy and the growth of jobs. we need a compromise. my fear is there is no compromise from paul ryan's perspective that he can make. >> none? no compromise at all? >> no. listen to what -- i want to finish my sentence. >> okay. >> there is no compromise he could make that he believes he could bring back and sell to his
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republican conference. >> okay. >> and i hope that's not the case. i hope if it is the case he will have the courage and the wisdom to come to a deal that he knows is the right thing to do, bring that back and very frankly if it is a positive conference report compromise then i think he'll find that he'll get significant democratic support for it. we have no intention of wanting to shut down the government of the united states but when you have 147 republicans who voted not to open the government including paul ryan, it gives you some degree of concern. >> okay. so they may ratchet it up one more time. who knows, they may shut it down again. from my perspective you always got to get to a number. >> yeah. >> you got to get to a number. what are you going to shave? we're talking about going back or staying in afghanistan longer. that is going to cost money.
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the liberals are saying no way in heck. we're going to stay with the populist thinking. no cuts. increases on social security, medicare, medicaid. what breaks this log jam, what financial deal on a budget do you think could be made that would break this? >> what i've always said as you well know is that you need a balanced compromise, a balanced deal. you need some revenues, some spending discipline, some cuts on the table. but we need to remember, we've already cut $1.2 trillion in spending over the next ten years. the budget number the senate is using and that's our number and then the house has a number that is 91 billion less than that, normally when you compromise you try to reach agreement somewhere in the middle. if we did that i think we could
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move forward in a responsible fashion. whether they intend to do that or can do that whether ryan believes that is the appropriate thing to do we'll have to see. >> yeah. >> but certainly, they ought to stop playing this cliff game of coming right up to the cliff fearful if we go over it is going to attack the economy and destroy america's reputation, frankly worldwide. we'll see if they want to play that game again. ryan says he does not. i hope he is accurate. >> john boehner says that if an agreement isn't reached by december 15th he is prepared to move a continuing resolution at the budget control act level which would essentially keep the sequester cuts in effect. how bad would that be for the american people as you see it? >> very bad. and the people who said it would be very bad are the 12 republican chairs of the appropriations subcommittee who have the responsibility of applying resources to the
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objects that the american people want to see done including defense, education, health care, protection of our citizens and our property. so that the number would be disastrous for our economy and national security. and for everybody in the department of defense agrees with that so the republicans are playing a very dangerous game if they're looking at the sequester number. >> okay. congressman, i'll take one more minute of your time if i may. elijah cummings your colleague told us tonight that darrell issa the republicans are going around to nonexchange states looking for negative stories on obama care. i want your reaction. i've never heard of that before. >> well, i'm not surprised though, ed. you see chairman issa has been after the obama administration at every opportunity he can find. >> yeah. clearly, we believe this health care bill the affordable care
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act is going to be good for the american people. we're disappointed with the rollout, disappointed that the computer system, website doesn't work now but the substance of this bill is going to provide millions and millions and millions of americans with access to affordable care. >> yeah. >> we got to get this system working correctly. i'm not surprised that mr. issa and his staff are going around looking for horror stories that will help their argument. >> you'll have 41 million good stories before it is all over with. good to have you with us tonight. thanks so much. rapid response panel up next. >> your cnbc market wrap, the dow up by 109 points today and closing above 16,000 for the very first time ever. the s&p 500 adding 14 and the nasdaq gaining as well by 47. a sign that the labor market is improving the number of jobless claims fell more than expected dropping by 21,000 to a two-month low.
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much to me. i also need to do it for my family. >> you need to resign, dude. welcome back to the ed show. that was tea party congressman trey radel of florida trying to explain how he'll regain trust of voters after being caught with cocaine. ae period in court yesterday in washington, d.c. and pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor count of cocaine possession. he was given a year probation and $250 fine. the congressman is what? taking a leave of absence to undergo intense i ever treatment? that's right. you heard me correctly. he is going to take a leave of absence. in the united states congress there is no such thing as a leave of absence. he is making stuff up again. well, he's a republican. a leave of absence from the votes, meaning the people down there get no representation whatsoever? a leave of absence. here is a good tea party idea for you. what do you say the people of
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southwest florida take a leave of absence of paying tackes because that guy is still going to get paid? but he claims he is going to give it to charity. really? who is checking up on that? radel made no mention of stepping down. he plans to donate his salary to charity during his leave but in his district folks aren't feeling as charitable. an editorial of the news press which previously endorsed the congressman summed it up in a scathing op-ed. because of his addiction and arrest he will never again have the trust of the community or the nation. he is a leader who has fallen in a significant public way. seldom does one recover from that. it's time for radel to move on with rebuilding his life, with his family at his side. it is time for us to move on with a new leader who can be trusted who doesn't keep secrets that directly impact all of us. character counts. that is what republicans tell us
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all the time. well, if character counts, he needs to get out of the united states congress. joining us now rapid response panel pulitzer prize winning national columnist connie schultz. also msnbc political analyst michael dyson. great to have you with us tonight. dr. dyson, you first. i think this is a very fair question because the judicial system should work for everybody equally at least i think that's the way it is supposed to be in america. if a teenage black kid in washington, d.c. were to get hung up in a cocaine drug bust, would he get just a year's probation and a $250 fine? is this fair? >> no, sir. no, sir. ed, we know that this -- black and white people do drugs in equal proportion, equal numbers. but in washington, d.c., a remarkable disproportion of people taken to jail and put in, put away and the key thrown away for a while are african-american
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and latino. if a black person were in this same situation as this congressman they would be put in a jail cell and not remembered. they would have no remedy in terms of going to rehab. they wouldn't have a medicalization of a problem. it would be a criminalization. i feel personally empathetic toward this congressman but the tragedy is as you eloquently pointed out the tea party has been so insensitive and harping on people's character and pull yourself up by your boot straps and insisting personal responsibility be the predicate of everything to the exclusion of any consideration of environment or culture or seduction, then the only response here is to be, take your lumps as you find them in your own tea, go forward, resign from congress, take your personal responsibility, work with your family and leave the rest of the congress alone. of course he won't do that because he is making the very excuses he claims that other people in his similar situation make. >> we reached out to the florida governor rick scott, his office, to see where he stands.
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his press secretary told us because we all know that rick scott is for drug testing. it is very disappointing every public official needs to live to the highest standards. connie, do the republican leaders need to take a stronger position on this? your thoughts? >> well, i think if the republican leaders, i guess i'm thinking of, you know, i saw the clip of him and when i watched what he was saying i think anybody who's ever loved somebody who has suffered from addiction was seeing denial play out before their eyes. i can do my job. i don't need to change anything. i feel for his family. we don't talk about who i am married to but in this instance it is important to disclose i am married to a united states senator and i do feel for his family. having said that politics is very seductive and he was getting caught up in the celebrity culture of politics. it is something you have to resist. he was tweeting constantly, doing videos of himself. when you look back on this it is not so surprising to see that he was going to be irresponsible on
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this as well. >> yes. >> what i most object to is that he supported allowing states to require foodstamp recipients to take drug tests before they could get help. >> right. yeah. >> that is where i land on this one. >> connie, i want to ask you. being the soulmate and wife of a united states senator, this is a special arena. when you make a decision to go into public service you put your credibility, your character, you put it all out there to serve the people. and if you can't live up to that standard and stay focused, you have no business being in this body. i just think we have a void of leadership in this country that we constantly appease people who don't belong in the body to serve the people. why are we afraid to do that? i feel empathy for his family. it doesn't mean his life is ruined. it doesn't mean he can't rehabilitate himself. but right now he doesn't belong
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in a body that makes decisions as to whether we'll go to war or not, whether people are going to get fed or not, whether people are going to get housing or not, whether people are going to get health care or not. here we go. public speaker and speaker of the house john boehner won't say whether he thinks radel should resign but his father skip radel told "the cincinnati inquirer" he had a meeting with john boehner and some of the republicans. they told him they didn't want him to resign and they wanted him back. that's a travesty, too. they can't even clean up their own house when somebody gets arrested doing cocaine. no wonder the congress has got an approval rating in the toilet. michael, i give people like this no quarter. this guy votes against health care. he is on a congressional health care that is going to help him get rehabilitated. he votes to take foodstamps away from the most vulnerable people in our society yet he comes out
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and says after getting arrested oh, you know i'm going to take a leave of absence. i don't buy it. >> it is an addiction to arrogance even more than drugs. the real drug here is the zekt uv lifestyle and the arrogance to believe you are impervious, somehow exempt and exonerated in advance from some of the same criminal activities you would -- you claim plagued others. then when you exhibit the same behavior, you don't subject yourself to the same penalty. >> yeah. that is part of the hypocrisy here, ed. we have to stand up and say we feel sorry for you and your family but at the end of the day you felt no empathy for people on foodstamps. >> so connie do you think americans feel just as sorry for elliot spitzer who stepped down as governor of new york? >> no. i think americans expect that people who are elected to lead them will resign when they fail in leadership. this is a clear failure of leadership, period. >> connie schultz and also dr. michael eric dyson, great to have you with us tonight. thanks so much. coming up, going nuclear.
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welcome back to "the ed show." this is the story for the folk who is take a shower after work. the so-called nuclear option eliminates the 60-vote threshold for all executive nominations and it moves it down to a 51 votes. 51 votes is a simple majority in the senate. the nuclear option prevents filibuster fanatic republicans from continuing to block president obama's judicial nominees. senate republicans have blocked three nominees in the past three weeks. >> the need for change is so, so very obvious. it's clearly visible.
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it's manifest we have to do something to change things. in the history of our country, some 230-plus years, there have been 168 filibusters of executive and judicial nominations. half of them have occurred during the obama administration. >> mitch mcconnell wasted no time in inciting the ever-predictable republican talking point blaming obama care rollout. >> democrats set up one set of rules for themselves and another for everybody else. one set of rules for them and another for everybody else. he may as well have said if you like the rules of the senate, you can keep them. >> senator bernie sanders joins us. your thoughts on what you're hearing from the senate today and the outcome of changing the rules? >> i think senator reid did exactly the right thing. as he indicated throughout the
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cost -- when a president makes the nomination for the judiciary, for his administration, almost always that goes through and it goes through in a reasonable period of time. but the republicans, we now have three nominees, well-qualified nominees for the d.c. court of appeals, an important court. and they are obstructing, obstructing, obstructing. so i think what senator reid said today, we've had unwritten rules for decades and decades. you guys have broken those rules. you are obstructing, obstructing, obstructing. we have got to move forward. this country is in trouble. the american people deserve action. >> the republicans, whether republicans or democrats it's in the constitution the senate is supposed to advise and consent. they stopped doing that.
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because of the obstruction brought up by the republicans. so do you think that they would retaliate back if they were ever to get the majority? i mean, is this really dangerous territory for the senate? >> look. would they retaliate back? of course they would. and let me just be very honest with you, ed. this country today faces a series of problems which are unprecedented in the modern history of this country. and that is the collapse of the middle class, high unemployment, the growing gap between the rich and the poor, health care, et cetera. time after time, this is above and beyond the judiciary nominations. time and time again, we have passed with over 50 votes decent legislation which would protect the middle class of this country. we cannot get the 60 votes. because now what the republicans are doing again in an unprecedented way is filibustering everything. it used to be the exception to
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the rule. now it is the rule. so what has happened since obama has been president is these guys, the republicans, have really changed the rules. and now what reid and the democrats have done is said, okay, you changed the rules. now we have got to respond and let this senate begin to be a little bit functional. >> what would our country look like right now if the filibuster rules were changed all the way across the board? not just limited to judicial nominees and executive appointments. i mean, what if it covered the legislative? would we have to jobs package? >> damn right we would. yeah, you would. this is what you and your viewers should understand. people are worried about the high cost of college education. we passed with over 50 votes to make sure college loans continue to be affordable. people are worried about the great crisis of jobs.
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we passed a jobs bill. people are worried about outsourcing of jobs. we pass legislation with majority votes that would help us -- >> they're holding up america. >> they are holding up america. i think it is fair to say that the senate today is as dysfunctional and as unproductive as any senate in the history of the united states of america coming at a time when this country faces so many crises. the unwritten rule is gone. filibuster is done every day. the democrats have responded in my view. we need to pass a minimum wage bill. and if we don't have 60 votes and only have 55 votes, we should pass it with 55 votes. we need to deal with the fact that unemployment is much too high and pass a real jobs bill, rebuilding our infrastructure. we can't get 60 votes to do that.
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we should do that with a majority. so my suggestion to senator reid is go further. majority rule should work in the senate. i have no doubts that if the republicans would gain control of the senate, that is exactly what they would do. >> great to have you on "the ed show" tonight. thank you so much. that is "the ed show." i'm ed shultz. "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton begins now. good evening, rev. >> good evening. and thank you for tuning in. tonight's lead, standing up to the bullies and endsing the right wing's history of obstruction. for a hundred years conservatives used a procedure called the filibuster to block civil rights legislation and for the last five years conservatives have used it to filibuster the first black president of the united states. and tried to
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