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>> yes. >> it's great. what did you learn some. >> i learned it's encouraging that romeo and juliette are thinking twitter is a novel. >> what did you learn? >> i learned how to -- >> chuck todd. >> straight ahead and thank you for your patience. seriously. i apologize. >> an historic deal to temporary stop iran's nuclear program. many questions are unanswered. we will hear from the white house about what's next and their reaction by israel and
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others. a massive last week, a pi partisan trifecta made their case fweans gambling. our phones blew up and we will hear from the gaming association about why they think mad is betting badly. good morning from washington. the fact that imfwramigration rm is still not dead. the u.s. and allies signed an historic agreement on the nuclear program capping the first true dialogue between the two countries in 34 years. the deal is already being criticized by israel and faces widespread skepticism. the president may have bought time with the six-month deal,
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but that may be about it. they begin to roll back iran's nuclear program. of course the big question is. >> the agreement that will require enormous steps in terms of verification, transparency and accountability. >> rt interim deal announced sunday freezes on to nuclear program for months. and rolls it back to some extent. iran is required to dilute or convert the existing stockpile of highly enriched uranium. it can keep centrifuges and cannot add new ones.
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>> these are substantial limiting as that upon help prevent iran from building a nuclear weapon. they cutoff iran's most likely paths. the burden is on iran to prove that its nuclear program will be exclusively for peaceful purposes. >> already key differences in interpretations are emerging between the u.s. and iran on fundamental parts of the agreement whether iran has a right to enrichment in the next six months. >> this first step does not say that iran has a right to enrichment. no matter what interpretive comments were made, it is not in this document. >> it doesn't say in so many
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words, but it says clearly that iran will have an enrichment program. >> it's a historic mistake. it has not made the world a safer place. like the agreement with north korea in 2005, this agreement made the world a much more dangerous place. >> the president called netanyahu to reassure him, but it's not clear the conversation did anything to dampen p sigz. it is again at one of the lower
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points. saudi arabia remained silent and the cabinet said the agreement could represent a preliminary step towards a comprehensive solution if there was good will. the saudis opposed the deal before it was struck and they may conclude any international acceptance of the nuclear program will end up compelling them to obtain their own. there is a widespread skepticism where it's clear the administration is on a short leash. >> we say the interaction are spike the football saying look, we consolidate the gain and we leave sanctions. >> this was a deal for the sake of the deal and it makes the next six months more difficult. >> i am worried when the sanctions that by reducing them and not getting a po portionate reduction in weapon making capabilities were sending a signal to iran, it makes it
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harder to get to the ultimate goal which is reducing or eliminating the nuclear capability. >> the administration did not have much running room. any tiny piece of evidence that iran is not living up to its end of the bargain. they could see a massive rebuke of the deal. there could be a bipartisan bill passed the at least in the house and possibly in the senate that could end up putting the president in the walkard position of having to use the first ever presidential veto on iran sanctions. new jersey senator and the chairman of the relations committee criticized saying it did not reduce iran's nuclear program for the release they are receiving. he said that he expects any new penalties would be triggered after the six-month window so that if iran is failing to implement, there would be more sanctions. the white house has a lot of work to do to convince members
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ofs it party. a year of what turned out to be secret talks of top u.s. officials. the chief correspondent andrea mitchell that hosted msnbc is here. this deal is a year in the making. private 101 direct talks were taking place for a year. >> five plus nothing, he was told before the general assembly speech. >> they had 60 days heads up. >> a lot more than some folks. >> they were all blindsided behind the scenes. it would not have worked, but this was not just about passing. this is clearly something thaw know person anyone covering the white house 24-7. something the president wanted
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to do since the day he took office. he wanted a deal with iran. >> the criticism is in 2009 when there was a chance to support the students in the streets, they made the calculus that that was too risky and they didn't have the political weight to challenge the regime. they didn't go for it then. now they told them there was a six-month window at most according to the iranian reformers before the hard liners move in and before the revolutionary guard. the fact that they have the secret talks, the deputy level, the weiss president's office, wendy sherman. right under the noses of the persian gulf allies. >> what does the six months look like? it becomes what would i
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comprehensive deal look like? >> it would have to involve dismantling and it would not involve the centrifuges. there is nothing taken back. there is a rolling back. >> this is a freeze like in the old cold war days, they would say okay, let's do a temporary freeze while we negotiate something more. gorbachev didn't have to answer to the supreme leader. nor did he have the equivalent of the revolutionary guard that had the military and economic infrastructure. the house voted and sanctions that the senate can pick up. i was told that one of the reasons harry reid moved so quickly on the option was not just the circuit court of appeals. he wanted to try to protect the
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president from sanctions getting through with veto-approved majority on the defense amendment. >> that still may come and have a trigger. stuff that's coming. boy. don't miss if you are caring about the issue. the deputy adviser for strategic communications. he joins me from a cold white house north lawn. look at that. without an overcoat. >> i'm a north easterner. >> fair enough. let's talk about this deal. how temporary is it and how quickly is the u.s. willing to walk away from it if iran reneges on any part of this deal? >> they have a six-month time frame. it halts the progress of the
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program while we see if we can get the final deal. we have the strictest inspections to make sure they are held accountable to the likes of this deal. >> let's get to this disgramt on uranium enrichment. john kerry said there was nothing in the document about it. iran agrees, but they believe that no matter what this acknowledgement was down the road. what say you? >> only if we were able to reach a comprehensive agreement. they said in a final agreement, we would have to mutually define what the nature is. we get to decide whether iran dismantled the facilities put in place and restraints that we can accept. that is not something that can be pocketed now. if we don't agree, they have no right to enrich.
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we are back in increasing pressure. >> let's talk about iraq. arak, not the country. they have to stop using it is the way to look at it. no dismantling. is it fair to say there is no agreement that the u.s. would sign on to that would dismantle this reactor? >> they cannot fuel the reactor and develop components and do additional testing during this period. clearly we do not want iran at the end of the day to have a heavy water reactor and plutonium track. that is going to be a key part of the end state negotiations. we don't want them to have an enriched track to a bomb. they will have to address our concerns and not having a reactor at that facility in iraq. >> that facility could live if they somehow address the concerns?
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>> yes. it's certain if they don't have the reactor of the plutonium track. how do we put a constraint on it. that's the type of thing we would have to negotiate over six months. >> would the president veto a new sanctions bill if the house bill came through and new sanctions that even if it had a trigger that didn't kick in until after the month would the president feel the need to veto it because of the disagreement. >> we are not there if a bill has not been passed. we want to test this agreement. we said we will work with you to move the sanctions immediately. if we don't get an agreement it has been violated. congress could pass these sanctions quickly.
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we don't see the need to do it now. that could cause divisions and could complicate this. if we don't get a deal at the end of the six months. >> what happens if saudi arabia decides to pursue the nuclear program. >> clearly what they are trying to revert, the nuclear arms race. if we can get strict verifiable constraints to make sure it doesn't need a nuclear weapon, we can avert that scenario. the saudis have sufficient energy reserves. we believe they should be able to meet their needs with the current state. >> very quickly, will we have to walk away with the deal if karzai won't sign it. >> we have been clear that we need to sign the agreement if we can plan for a post 2014 presence. >> is there a deadline? he hads to sign by when?
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>> we would like to get it done by the end of the year. it will be harder and harder to plan for that and we will have to move to different contingencies and not having troops in afghanistan post 2014 and carrying out the support for afghanistan without that troop presence. >> i have to leave it there. the national security adviser, thanks for coming out there and get an overcoat, will you. >> nuclear reaction from someone who knows what it's like to sit on the negotiating table with iran. nick burns joins me next. a massive snow and ice storm turns deadly. now it's on the move and it is going to be a big disruption for holiday travel. get the latest on those storm tracks next. a look ahead at the politics planner. as you know, we have joe biden in chicago. it will be a day that axelrod will do. the president is out west doing
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the administration is getting criticism about the iran nuclear deal, but what would it look like without any deal? nearly three decades, the u.s. ambassador to nato and the negotiator under george w. bush. i am joined now by the harvard kennedy school. good to see you. >> good morning, chuck. >> let me start with your simple take on the deal. good, bad, too soon to judge? >> good. a sensible deal.
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what it does is it's an interim deal. it stops the iranian nuclear program in its tracks. it rolls it back and gives us time and flexibility to negotiate the final deal ahead of us where we try to dismantle part of the nuclear program. if you have done this, while we were negotiating, they could have been racing ahead to accelerate the nuclear program. that's why they had to go for the deal. >> this is a date certain. we are headed down a path to dismantle or are we headed down a path to essentially dismantle it ourselves using military force? we have drawn a line in the sand or a demarcation where that's a cross reference. is that fair to say? >> that's the best course. you don't want to give the negotiations too long. they know what the deal is here.
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they will have to roll back and dismantle much of the nuclear apparatus. no one will have confidence that they won't live peacefully and not try to seek a nuclear weapon. they would like to achieve a final deal sooner than that. it's one thing to ask them to freeze their program and to d dismantle and permanently do away with that 20% enrichment will be difficult. the obama administration is negotiating with reformers and they have to deal with the hard line people like a supreme leader and tehran. >> aren't those the two things that are negotiable? essentially the iraq plant as to be dismantled. there is no -- if the end roads didn't say it and he almost said it, they are not going to get to
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enrich uranium, period. fair? >> having an alternate route, that has to be shut down. on the second, it may well be if there is an agreement, the iranians will have a right to low level enrichment and not anything that is approaching weapons grade. the agreement is going to be sometime in that and somewhere in that area. the united states is going to have to have daily inspections that is given to them by the interim deal and iron clad assurances that were well short of a nuclear weapon. there is too much euphoria right now. they have done a good job, but there is a long way to go here. >> what do you want congress to do? should this be a scenario where president obama said i am doing my best to negotiate, but congress will hold me back.
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is this official to the president or is this an impediment? >> it can be pen official to have a congress to the right of the president. congress needs to respect the authority of the president. with secretary kerry at the negotiating tibble. it would be a mistake to intervene if the congress has not requested. they have a right to speak out, but when the united states is at the table, you want to have one person speak to the united states and that's the president. >> nick burns from the kennedy school these days and a veteran of these diplomatic negotiations. thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> gather around. we got a stuffed data bank to kickoff thanksgiving week. how bat will the travel trouble be for millions? it's going to be bad, folks.
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san francisco. the weather will continue causing problems through thanksgiving day. 43 million people are expected to somehow decide to travel on thanksgiving weekend. going to grandmother's house according to aaa. let's get an update on where this storm is headed for the holidays. it will be bad travel. the question s is it going to tie up the east coast hubs which then essentially shut down the country? >> the ripple effect. it sounds scary. pictures of what happened over the weekend and it's headed for 43 million people and it sounds horrible. the good news is that most of the damage has been done and we have a lot of rain. not the snow and the ice and the sleet. little rock north with freezing rain during the day. it's a lot of heavy rain developing. let's take you to the travel.
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a little bit of icy conditions and spreading into tennessee. it's not going to be horrible. a little slippery on the bridges. the storms over georgia throughout tuesday morning. we will watch the rain. you drive to work on tuesday and you go home and it will will be raining. the wintry mess will be in the mountains up through syracuse and possibly buffalo and cleveland. the storm will quickly be exit being on pedestrian. it goes through philadelphia and baltimore and overnight by wednesday morning. it be over there by you in d.c. >> we will have a horrible normal travel day. >> they may not get there
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tuesday night. if you have a late flight, hopefully it will get there. have faith. >> thank you, sir. time now for today's data bank. we are kicking off stunning student low numbers. christmas tree and a zombie protest. we will try to have zombies every day for the next two weeks. if we don't, they will be in my brain. where the number is now two, the number of women on the democratic ticket. say thes s eenator will be run with wendy davis hoping to become the state's first democratic governor. they show tray are trailing the governor, but only in the single digits. it will be interesting there. 41.3 billion is the federal government's profit on student loan debt for the last fiscal year. all but two ku678s in the entire
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adjusting on how legislation gets done. after spending a few months advocating for the senate's bill, he now says he would be okay with breaking it up. >> if they want to chop that up into five peas, as long as they get done, i don't care what it looks like as long as it is delivers on the core values we talked about. >> the speaker responded saying he is glad that the president came around. >> the president said he couldn't stand in the way of a step by step immigration reform. as you know, that's
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because what exists right now, we have 118. it has to be that. isn't that the way boehner said we will piece meal. >> no, it's easier to pass the pieces than the whole. that's part of the strategy. it's more complicated. we do have problems in the house republican delegation to get to the majority of the republicans.
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remember even if we get the majority of the republicans that still need about 100 democrats. there democrats who want to kill this in the house so they can play politics with the issue. there problems on both sides of the aisle. >> what assurances do you think democrats will need. there was a time when the president thought the piece meal approach was a way to kill it. he didn't believe in it and what are the assurances to see all the bills lined up like planes on a runway? >> exactly. no bills can pass the house unless they join in with republicans. at a minimum, they will say if they pass the peas, we can come out with a final package. that's going to be the key. will house republicans set up a blame game? >> this is where i am confused. if you have the individual bills, there is a bunch of house
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republicans that don't want to see all of those bills end up in conference. you are going to have to then send it back to the senate. what's it going to look like? >> let's be clear. when was the last time they went to conference on anything? >> what they want to do is stand their ground and say this is the principal and we will have conversation between house leadership and senate leadership. it doesn't matter as long as we get something done. >> it could be the way patty murray and paul ryan will be doing. >> i am worried about whether there is enough republicans that want to deal with 11 million people. >> let's get down to brass taxes. if this doesn't happen by the summer of 2014, this doesn't happen. would you say? >> i agree. i agree. there will be a slim chance in 2015, but you need the momentum.
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right now there is a political momentum and the circumstances to work on it. it would be terrible. devastating for republicans. >> you keep pointing out and that's right. they know they need to do this. >> 245i do. the question is how they finesse it so it doesn't rile up. in a weird way, the more unpopular health care gets, is it on immigration some. >> we hope so. the republican party facing a moment of truth. if boehner blocks immigration we form, the party is not going to see the inside of the white house. >> you admit that immigrationa the problem. >> they want to show they are willing to give us a proposal. >> good discussion. something is going to happen. >> the nasdaq crossed 4,000 for the first time since september of 2000.
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internet gambling. within hours, we were contacting by the ultimate gaming and the poker player's alliance all wanting to respond. you consider the stakes by one estimate, online gaming can generate $9 billion a year by the end of this decade. for those who say it's no different than other forms of gambling, we had this to say. >> there is bibig difference from going into a casino and having a casino in your pocket 24-7. we have to look and see what families lose and what does the economy lose? the debt. it's so unbelievably quick when you get on to the online gaming things. people can lose money without knowing that they have made a commitment. >> jeff freeman is president and ceo of the american gaming association that represents the industry.
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they are on the pro online gaming side of this debate. thanks for coming in. >> thank you. >> let's start with one of the arguments which is this idea thaw are making it so easy to gamble that the casino in your pocket thing as much as the expansion of gambling already the debate is about preying on people who can't afford to do it. if you do it on a mobile phone, you exasperate these problems. what say you some. >> prohibition doesn't work. the opponents who want to precent the internet doesn't exist, they are behind the times. people are gambling online and the americans spent $3 billion last year. illegally. to offshore operators. if you top the protect consumers and integrity and give law enforcement the tools they need. pretend prohibition doesn't work. >> new jersey will have online
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gaming. if i'm on the pike and i cross the delaware bridge so suddenly i can't gamble online anymore, the technology will be able to handle that? >> to be clear in the gaming industry, they encouraged the federal government to put in place minimum protections and of the regulations that make sure these games have the integrity they should have. in the absence, states are moving forward and put in place the rules that take place and working with companies who are ensuri ensuring. the technology is proving to work. is it working at that level? is it seeds to be tested. regulation beats prohibition. how instruct will you say there daily limits and weekly limits? the amount of money people can spend or what? >> when you look at gaming in general, states have addressed
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that for many, many years. that's up to the states to decide. how difficult and stringent do they want the legislation to be. we can see that online. states will decide as new jersey is right now. they want all games to be online. nevada decided they want poker to be online. that's a state right issue and we expect them to continue to pursue that.
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work again. it's safe to assume the white house is hoping cyber monday won't be just about holiday shopping, that it will be about health care shopping. president obama's point man to fix the problem said he's very confident the site will now be able to handle 50,000 users simultaneously come monday morning. and while officials say there are no plans to extend the final deadline of march 31st when it comes to open enrollment, on friday the administration said more deadlines have been extended. let me walk you through them. those looking to receive health insurance by january 1st now have an extra eight days to sign up. the original deadline, of course, was the 15th. but basically you now have a little extra time, one week. sign up by the 23rd and you'll be able to then be covered by january 1. and the administration has also announced a deadline for extension for the next year, pushing open enrollment, the start of it, back one month to november 15th. republicans say the white house
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deliberately pushed sign-ups past the midterm but the white house says it's simply to give insurance companies an extra month. i have to say the idea that somehow this is election-related just because the calendar is around the election, it's kind of silly. health care is going to be an issue no matter what. anyway, it's another delay there. i've got another one for you. the spanish language website that was supposed to be ready by mid-october now won't be ready until the end of this month. these delays come as another democratic senator, minnesota's al franken, said he would be open to a brief delay in the individual mandate if the problems with healthcare.gov aren't fixed by the end of the month. if al franken is saying it, then what are people saying. don't forget, he's up in 2014. however, there is good news for the administration. the 14 state-run health insurance market places are reporting enrollment has doubled from the last month. it jumped from 79,000 to approximately 150,000. that's big news. if the federal website is experiencing that, then maybe
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create your personalized photo gifts on shutterfly.com. 13 deaths so far blamed on treacherous winter weather. storms stretching from the southwest through california and it's going to turn thanksgiving travel into a nightmare. on a different kind of west coast swing, president obama says republicans are an impediment to governing. he unveils a new push to get the house to pass a immigration bill. how do you make a movie about one of the greatest civil rights leaders in history? hollywood and capturing nelson mandela's legacy. one of the film's stars and the director will be here. >> the people are angry. >> we are all angry. i am angry! you are angry! but you must show loyalty. loyalty. >>
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