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freedom coming up. good morning, i'm chris jansing. this morning, skeptical republicans and democrats are questioning the big deal president obama made over the weekend to temporarily freeze iran's nuclear program and they're threatening new sanctions that could scuttle the whole thing. >> boy, i'm very, very concerned about the deal. i think this was a deal for the sake of a deal, and i think that's dangerous. it makes the next six months even more difficult. >> i think it bodes a very, very ominously for the region and in fact u.s. security. >> we're sending a signal to iran that they can continue to go ahead and by talking and acting like they have good will can get away with at least nuclear weapon production. >> and if you say the reaction in iran, they're spiking the football in the end zone. >> we are very concerned as to whether iran will live up to even these commitments, and this is a first step. >> president obama meantime

trying to calm everyone down. he called israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu yesterday after netanyahu expressed public outrage over this deal. >> what was concluded in geneva last night is not a historic agreement. it's a historic mistake. >> i want to bring in our company, msnbc.com managing editor dafna linzer and reuters foreign affairs columnist david rhode. good to see both of you. good morning. >> good morning. >> here's the basic outline of the deal. iran stops enriching uranium above 5%. they stop work on a plow tone yum reactor and provide daily access for nuclear inspectors and they get economic sanctions lifted. david, obviously that has sparked this big debate. is this a good deal? >> i think basically it is but i think both sides are exaggerating. it's not a historic achievement as the administration is claiming and it's not this disastrous thing either.

to me it's very analogous to when kerry brought the israelis and palestinians back to the negotiating table. basically we don't have a deal with iran and we've agreed to six months of negotiations to get to a deal. and i think if there isn't a deal after six months, the administration has put itself in a box and there will be either very heavy sanctions or military action against iran if there's no deal in six months. >> so high risk, high reward? >> correct. and that's been the style, at least for kerry so far. >> let me play for you what president obama had to say, some more of that from saturday night. >> these are substantial limitations which will help prevent iran from building a nuclear weapon. simply put, they cut off iran's most likely paths to a bomb. meanwhile, this first step will create time and space over the next six months for more negotiations to fully address our comprehensive concerns about the iranian program. >> dafna, this becomes kind of a game of what does substantial mean.

there's a big difference of opinion. so the clock is ticking. as we just said, stakes are very high. what happens next? >> well, what happens next is the test and verify. so what we're having here is, you know, iran slowing down, doing something that they have not been willing to do for ten years, which is stop work on its nuclear program, scale way back, change the level of enriched uranium, which is very important. so even when it comes to the critics and everything they have to say about this, i think what this deal does is really buys an enormous amount of time for both sides. and i think -- while i agree with david, i think also the stakes are very high for the iranians. they are now going to see what it's like actually to get incentives. what life could be like if the sanctions weren't as stringent as they have been. what it would be like actually to have access to some of the assets that have been frozen for so long. >> we just got a statement, david, coming out of the cabinet in saudi arabia. they say that the nuclear deal can be a step toward a

comprehensive solution if there is good will. what do you make of that? >> that's a step forward. i think the white house will be very happy to hear that. it's the saudis and israelis that have brought up the biggest concerns about this so that's a little window there. i would agree with dafna. the key now is do the iranians actually abide by this freeze essentially in rolling back these steps or not. the administration is leery, they need saudi arabia's help and this is a good gesture, i think, this morning from the saudis. >> well, the other factor here obviously, dafna, is congress. israel is a bipartisan, as you heard from some democrats like chuck schumer. they say they're going to push for more sanctions. iran's foreign minister said point blank to ann curry in a pretty revealing interview that if that happens, there is no deal. so what about congress in all this? >> you know, i think that the president can play it both ways. i think in some ways a very tough congress can be helpful to the president. i mean that is showing the iranians that, you know, the united states is not all soft and easy, that there's a lot for

the iranians to do to convince congress that this is serious and that they care. you know, i don't think that congress wants to just melt back and say, okay, we're going to lift all the sanctions. so keeping up the pressure is important, as long as they don't step over the line and jeopardize the deal and i think that is where we're at right now. how can congress sort of continue to be very, very tough and firm with the iranians, send that message, but not jeopardize the deal. that's the important point here. >> dafna linzer, david rhode, thanks to both of you. i want to bring in david cicilli cicilline. you called this a positive step, you've issued a statement. we've heard from many of your colleagues on both sides of the aisle who are very concerned. make your case. >> no, i think, look, we should be very skeptical and proceed very cautiously, but this is an important step in what hopefully will be a diplomatic resolution of this very challenging issue. it essentially freezes iran's march toward a nuclear weapon,

gives us a window of opportunity to negotiate a deal. this is an interim agreement with lots of verification, daily monitoring. i don't think anyone should delude themselves. this is going to be difficult to get to a final deal, but if we do nothing, iran will proceed with nuclear weapons capability. this creates a window of opportunity for some tough negotiations to make sure iran does not get a nuclear weapon. so i think this is an important weapon, and we have to work very closely with the administration to be sure that what we do in congress supports a resolution that protects the national security interests of the united states and of our allies around the world. >> are you worried that there will be nx congress that will do the opposite of that, at least from the administration's perspective? >> well, i think we have to -- i think it's very important that the iranians at the negotiating table understand that we're serious and that congress is deeply engaged in this issue. i think the sanctions are obviously the reason the

iranians are at the table of the if we're going to take some additional action, i think we have to be sure that we do it in concert with the work of the administration so we don't undermine the negotiations and the opportunity for a resolution of this issue. but i think, you know, pressure from the congress and the iranians, understanding that we are serious about this, is a good context but we want to obviously leave the president the opportunity, or window of opportunity to negotiate a deal that's right for our country and our allies. >> when you say we're serious about this and looking at a six-month deadline here, what happens if iran cheats? >> well, i think, you know, it's very clear, the president was very clear that all options remain on the table. they have to remain on the table. we have an opportunity to immediately restore the very modest financial that is part of this interim agreement and then we have an opportunity to enact additional sanctions. so i think they have to understand that there will have to either be a military strike likely or additional sanctions by the international community

including the united states if they cheat or break their word. but the question is, is this an opportunity after 34 years of no contact between our countries to resolve this issue in a diplomatic way that protects us and protects our allies an ensures that iran does not develop a nuclear weapon? i think this is an opportunity. no one should overstate what has happened. this has really created a window for these negotiations and resolution of the final deal. there's a lot of hard work ahead and i think iran has to understand we will not permit them to develop a nuclear weapon and all options will remain on the table until such time as a final deal has been reached. >> we were talking, congressman, about the risk/reward here. to that point i want to play what senator lindsey graham had to say. >> to the obama administration's credit, they have put together an international sanctions regime that really did hit a body blow, land a body blow to the iranian economy. we had these guys on the rope. what i was looking for is an interim deal that went a long

way toward the final deal. this actually leaves in place everything that would allow them to make a weapon. it doesn't dismantle anything. >> that is the major concern that we've heard over and over and over again, that this doesn't do anything. if they want to start up again, they can. did the administration, congressman, give up too much? >> no. i mean, look, do we want -- or would it be better if iran agreed to everything we wanted and surrendered all of their interests? of course, but that's not going to happen. and the question is if we do nothing, i think most people agree in several months, maybe as short as a month, they'd have breakout capability. that's on the one hand. on the other hand, does this freeze or stop additional building of centrifuges, diluting highly enriched uranium, stop development of the plutonium reactor so it gives us a window and pause for a moment so we have a window of six months to dpoesnegotiate a fina keel. i think we would always want more and a complete surrender of

everything that iran is trying to do but that's not how it's going to happen in the context of negotiations. there's a lot of verification, daily monitoring. we should be very skeptical. but we should proceed with the hope that we can reach a final resolution that will end the threat of a nuclear iran, which is good for us, good for that region and good for our allies. none of this will be easy but this is a question of do we bring the iranians to the negotiating table? the sanctions have been crippling, no question about it, but we have a very short window here where if we do nothing, even if we impose additional sanctions, they can develop the capacity within 30, 60, 90 days and that's certainly not a good outcome. >> congressman, good to see you again. thank you so much. millions of americans across 25 states are going to be affected by that major winter storm moving across the country by the end of the week. right now people from new mexico to arkansas are seeing snow, ice, heavy rain. driving has been absolutely

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the historic nuclear deal with iran has the potential to become president obama's defining achievement. if history is any indication, the agreement could also give him a political boost at a time when the botched rollout of obama care has torpedoed is job approval numbers. the latest poll shows just 39% approve of the president's performance. those are near historic lows. i want to bring in jackie kucinich and political correspondent alex seitz-wald. good to see both of you.

good morning. >> good morning. >> the president facing a lot of criticism, skepticism from congress, some of our middle east allies as we were talking about a short time ago, not the least of which being israel. so, jackie, just how high are the stakes for the president and in that context for his legacy? >> the stakes are very high in regards to this deal because if it goes well, then it's a huge win for the administration. if this becomes a comprehensive agreement with iran, that's a great deal. if it goes poorly and iran breaks the terms of this deal, then it's got good for the administration and they have a huge problem on their hands. his critics could say, look, you wasted six months. >> alex, a lot of people thought foreign policy would be his big' weakness but he's had a number of foreign policy achievements. the death of bin laden, the agreement to destroy chemical

weapon stockpiles, the end of the war in afghanistan. if you add a nonnuclear iran to the mix, could these have the net impact of overshadowing his domestic agenda or at least in the short term could he pick up some political capital that could help him with his presidential agenda. >> it's still a big if depending on how this works out. this is really a fulfillment of the obama foreign policy as much as there is one going way back to november of 2007 when he laid out with plan with iran that he favored aggressive personal diplomacy as opposed to john mccain who favored a much more confrontational approach. so this is finally kind of long overdue but he's finally coming around and making good on that. we're seeing the same kind of approach with syria. you add it all up and regardless of what happens with obama care and the domestic agenda, it's shaping up to be a strong foreign policy agenda. it's still a big if but it could be a big win for him. >> he knew there were going to be members of congress on both sides of the aisle who were going to be critical of this. but senator john cornyn, highly critical, and he wrote this on

twitter that's getting a lot of attention. amazing what the white house will do to distract attention from obama care. jackie, what's that about? >> i think that has more to do with republicans that like to bring everything back to obama care because it's been such a good issue for them. the problems with the implementation. but look, i think obama's biggest problems in terms of iran is going to be congressional democrats who still think sanctions are a good idea. and if congress is able to pass sanctions while this deal is still in effect, that could really undermine the president and really be a problem. >> and there's another thing obviously that the president had high on his list of things that he wanted to do, alex, and that obviously is really palestinian peace talks. what's the level of discomfort on the hill that this is going to impact any possibility that there was for these talks to be successful? >> you have the same kind of faction, you know, people who favor more confrontational approach with iran tend to be pro-israel, tend to be really

supportive and want to get a deal that they like out of the israeli/palestinian negotiations. so everything in the middle east is tied together politically, especially on capitol hill. so there's no doubt that it's going to have some kind of impact. but if he can emerge from this, if he can weaken iran, then that should strengthen his hand with israel. it takes one of the big threats to israel at least if not off the table, down a little bit, which is iran, of course. so it has potential to strengthen the hand but it's also possible we see benjamin netanyahu, the israeli prime minister, throwing a lot of rhetorical bombs at washington. so i think it remains to be seen, but john kerry is stepping up efforts there and he has a big task there. >> alex seitz-wald, jackie kucinich, thanks to both of you. >> thank you. one is the leader of a billion catholics, the other a former kgb agent and president obama nemesis. why putin and the pope are meeting today, and if pope francis could be the next international power broker. that's next. okay ladies, whenever you're ready.

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it's being billed as the most important meeting between a pope and visiting head of state in nearly 25 years. pope francis and russian president vladimir putin are talking about syria today and how to move forward on their unexpected alliance, looking for a nonmilitary answer to the syrian conflict. now, the last time a pope and russian leader met, it was john paul and gorbachev. to talk about the meeting and the evolving catholic church, father dave dwyer, good to see you, father. >> good morning. >> so you have this popular pope. >> right. >> you bring all that to the table, all that popularity, and you have him meeting with putin. what do we know about his inclination to try to influence things in the political sphere? >> well, i'm excited to see this side of pope francis. this is not the selfie in st. peter's square. this is not the patting the little boy at the head that the world has come to love, but this is a man who has been pretty

much in leadership roles since he was ordained a priest in terms of being in charge of many of the jesuit seminarians and the province of the jesuits in argentina. >> not to mention getting involved in the middle of some pretty hot political situations there, right? >> exactly. so he's not -- i wouldn't say the gloves are coming off, but this will be a side of him that is a little more stern, maybe a little more political. >> pope john paul ii as we said was the last pope to have a meeting like this with a russian president. is this, do you think, potentially about using the popularity in the way that john paul did, because he also was a universally beloved leader of the catholic church? is it about being a moral authority? where's his motivation and his experience coming from? >> there's a couple of significant things in play, one of which is the fact that the pope picked up the phone as he wants to do with a lot of people and asked for this meeting himself. which is somewhat historic. >> and he literally does pick up the phone himself. >> he does. he asked him to come over.

this is an invitation on the part of the vatican. it's only been four years since relations have been normalized between russia and the vatican. but maybe even significantly going back way longer than that between the russian orthodox church and the catholic church. >> to say they're strained would be an understatement. >> well, it's been a thousand years. a meeting between cardinal scola of milan and the russian orthodox patriarch, essentially the head of their entire church, only a couple of weeks ago had the patriarch saying this is the best been in our history. that's a thousand years so that's pretty significant. >> we also have what's going on here in the united states and for a long time some of the things american catholics are pushing for are things that he is talking about which means there's also controversy, especially his stand on welcoming gays, lesbians, atheists. he also in september raised a lot of eyebrows when he said the church was grown obsessed with some issues like abortion. quote, we cannot insist only on issues related to abortion, gay marriage and the use of

contraceptive methods. this is not possible. i have not spoken much about these things and was reprimanded for that. but when we speak about these issues we have to talk about them in a context. the teaching of the church is clear and i am a son of the church but it is not necessary to talk about these issues all the time. and the interpretation of this has been in some quarters he's changing church policy on these things. >> which really what he's doing is the word cop text that you used there. he's saying, you know, of course we need to have moral authority and of course we need to help people make ethical decisions that we would back, but we need to start with their heart. we need to have almost like jesus walking along with those two disciples on the road and the phrase it their hearts were burning. that's what the pope said. we have to first appeal to their heart. then we can teach them about what the church believes and then we can invite them to make moral decisions based on that. but he says we've been going in the wrong order, doing it backwards and it's not working that way. >> it will be fascinating to see what comes out of today's

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governing and, quote, more focused on positioning themselves for the next election. in a new poll, 63% support a pathway to citizenship for undocumented workers. the president is also getting some support from billionaire facebook founder and ceo mark zuckerberg, who's been meeting with lawmakers. >> when you meet these children who are, you know, really talented and they have grown up in america, they really don't know any other country besides that but they don't have the opportunities that we all enjoy, it's really heart breaking. it seems like it's one of the biggest civil rights issues of our time. >> let's bring in democratic strategist and former obama state department official, jonathan prince and republican strategist and former bush 41 aide, joe watkins. gentlemen, good morning. >> good morning, chris. >> we know sort of what the outlines of this deal has been, the pathway to citizenship for the president is a key part highlighting the need to hold

employers accountable, the need for security, but we know what john boehner has said too, he says not this year. so what can the president do? >> i think the president can do what he's doing which is to harness really an amazing collection of diverse groups out there. you don't usually see agriculture, technology, labor, religious groups all coming together saying this is really critical for who we are as a country and what we believe in and try to frankly break off -- the problem with the house of republican caucus is that it's not really a caucus, it's a collection of caucus. so they have to break off one of those caucuses, which are the moderate folks which have real exposure in their districts because of the growing immigrant, hispanic populations, things like that, who really can't stand to be tied to the tea party group. >> there are republicans that want this done. they know the demographics of the growing hispanic population. how do you find common ground? >> well, i think that the president has to try to spend some more time personally with

the house leaders on the republican side. and i don't think that giving a speech criticizing them necessarily helps get it done. you've got a lot of republicans that believe like democrats that this is incredibly important, that this is a great civil rights issue and something that needs to get done. how you get it done is of course something that many people differ on. in the house it's going to be done -- they're looking to do it on a step-by-step basis. >> to that point -- >> but it's not going to happen before 2014. we're not going to get anything done before 2014. 2014 is going to be a stretch as well. >> let me play some of the sound from some members of the republican party who support exactly what you just said. let's play it. >> immigration reform is going to happen. but it's going to happen in a step-boy-step method. >> we think there's a way to do that in this step-by-step approach which is in the senate bill. it isn't amnesty. it transforms our system from a family based system to check based system and that's probably seven or eight pieces of

legislation. >> we know democrats have resisted this but could they be pushed to this. is in some ways a piecemeal approach better than nothing? >> well, i guess the premise of the question is that you can't do anything if you don't do it piecemeal and i don't agree with that. i think there is certainly in the country, the poll you put up, 63% wants comprehensive reform. inside the congress, certainly in the senate we've seen bipartisan reform passed. even in the house if you combine the democrats with the republicans who actually want comprehensive reform, there are enough votes in washington, d.c., right now to pass the bill. the thing is, all these matters are kind of inextrickably linked. border security, path to citizenship, the dreamers. to break them off punts half the football down the field. >> you also bring up an interesting point about the interesting groups of coalitions that favor some sort of immigration reform. joe, in addition to being a republican strategist, you're also a minister. >> yes. >> the most recent poll finds a majority of evangelical

protestants, mainstream protestants, minority protestants, all of them favor a pathway to citizenship and obviously a lot of them are also republican voters. could religious leaders hold sway in this? >> well, they could certainly. they could have a huge impact on moving various members of congress to try to do something as quickly as possible in this because church congregations are becoming more diverse. a lot more hispanics now identify themselves as evangelical. and ultimately because we know that all politics are local, it's going to be incumbent upon local ministers to really press local members of congress to move forward on this. >> always good to see you, joe watkins, jonathan prince. thank you for coming in. >> thanks, chris. we've been telling you that we're following this, the major storm barreling across the country just in time for millions of us to hit the roads and head to the airports and it's already being blamed for 13 deaths in the southwest. mostly from car accidents. and now that storm is headed east where parts of new york and pennsylvania could see up to a foot of snow.

nbc meteorologist bill karins is here with the latest forecast. >> doesn't sound good, does it? >> it sounds bad, actually. >> it does, right? yeah, this storm is over the weekend, it did its damage, especially in areas of utah, new mexico, right through texas and oklahoma. they got it a lot worse than what the east coast is going to get it so don't let that completely scare you. the airports will still be a mess because of volume and heavy rain and winds of the right now the worst of it is up in the little rock area, arkansas area. memphis is above freezing so you escaped this one. nashville the same for you, just probably a cold, chilly rain for the most part. so today's travel trouble, heavy rain will develop from houston to new orleans. we'll also be looking at that wintry mess trying to slowly push into tennessee, mostly in the rural areas outside of the big cities could get a glazing. then tuesday the storm comes into georgia. that's where it's going to race up the eastern seaboard. you'll start going to work from d.c. up to boston dry but when a lot of you drive home, the rain will be breaking out. there's just enough cold air for

one area to get some significant snow and ice. western pennsylvania, western new york. most areas of concern, pittsburgh, buffalo, rochester, maybe cleveland, erie, pennsylvania, that's where the travel will be the most treacherous out there driving. d.c. boy the time the sun comes up wednesday morning, your heavy rain could be over with but from boston to new york it will taper off during the way. so wednesday afternoon and evening will be a little better at the airports. maybe 3 to 6 at buffalo. as far as airports go, chris, are you traveling any of these? >> i'm going to tomorrow, but tomorrow. >> oh, ohio could be fun. >> yeah. oh, yeah. we don't get any snow in the snow belt. >> snow, cold, oh, happy thanksgiving. you'll be out there playing football, i know you. >> thank you so much, bill. checking the news feed this morning, this afternoon we do expect to learn a lot more about last year's shooting rampage at sandy hook elementary school. prosecutors will release a summary of the investigation that is expected to include personal writings by the shooter, adam lanza. and whether his medical history

played into the shooting. 20 students and six staff members were killed on december 14th. the u.s. postal service is putting up $100,000 reward to track down the person who shot and killed a maryland mailman. tyson barnett was murdered while delivering the mail on saturday. postal union members have publicly complained recently about how longer routes mean more deliveries after dark, putting postal workers, they say, at risk. this morning we're hearing from the family of an 85-year-old veteran detained in north korea. he was taken off a flight home by a military official six weeks ago after a trip to the peninsula where he once fought. his wife, lee, is heart broken. >> you don't know where your husband of 56 years is. you don't know his health. you don't know when he will be home with us. it's not an easy situation. >> newman's family says he has a heart condition and needs medication. the state department is working with swedish officials who

represent american interests in north korea. prince hear is snowed in in antarctica. he's there for ski training for a mission to raise money for wounded servicemen and women. instead of training, he's confined to his base camp with other expedition members. and the cost to fly is getting to be sky high, pardon the pun. cnbc's jackie deangeles is here with what's moving your money. some cities have seen double-digit increases in airfare. >> that's right, chris, good morning. it's interesting where it's happening and also why. the prices are going up in cities that have seen a drop in air service. since 2005 dallas has seen fares increase more than 35%, houston 23 1/2% and cincinnati just about 26%. also notable is that washington dulles, new york and chicago, they have all seen significant fare spikes as well and that's interesting because these are some of the cities that you'd think were the most highly traveled. let me put in perspective for you, overall between 2005 and

2013 prices have gone up only 6 1/2% on average at the top 100 domestic airports. as you can see, clearly some getting hit harder than others. >> not good news for holiday travelers. but the folks at the butterball hotline think they have something to celebrate so you can call them up and ask them how long to cook the turkey but you can also ask them for wine advice. >> that's right. if you're a noncook like me and have been tapped to host thanksgiving, you may find siri will not help get you out of this mess so maybe you call butterball. this time they're teaming up with a brand of wine and will help with turkey questions and pairing wine with your meal. may not seem like a big deal but people at 1-800-butterball are expected to answer more than one million questions this holiday season. that's a lot of turkey and a lot of wine, chris. >> did you say you're a noncook, jackie? >> i'm a big noncook. >> who's cooking your bird? >> my mom will be helping and my aunt is cooking. >> jackie, happy thanksgiving.

>> i know how to eat it. i don't cook it. >> i'm more of a stuffing kind of girl. all right, "the hunger games" let's talk about that. the sequel broke box office records for november. it opened with $161 million and now it is on the list of top opening weekends of all time. at number 5 on that list, "the dark knight rises," then "hunger games catching fire" fourth. "harry potter and the deathly hallows part 2" is third. ironman 3 is $174 million and "the avengers" had the biggest opening weekend ever, an astonishing $207 million. coming up we'll take a look at an inspiring film opening this weekend, "mandela, the long walk to freedom." we'll talk with the director and the woman who plays mandela's wife next.

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jacob zuma visited nelson mandela this morning in his home in johannesburg where he remains in stable but critical condition this morning. and now a film that's been 25 years in the making looks at the life of the antiapartheid leader. one of the things you'll see is the relationship between mandela and his then-wife winnie and how they didn't always see eye to eye politically. check it out. >> that has to stop, winnie. >> you realize there's a war out there. the people are angry. >> we are all angry. i am angry! you are angry! but you must show loyalty. loyalty, winnie mandela. >> naomie harris plays winnie mandela. justin chadwick is the director of the film. welcome to both of you. >> thank you.

>> i don't know where you start to look of making a film of an iconic perch lison like this an whose life is so rich and so well known so to make it interesting. where do you start, justin? >> the producer had written to mandela when he was in prison so over the 20, 30 years that he had been in contact with mandela, he got to know a lot of people involved in the apartheid struggle. so really for me it was about interviewing the people, the family, the friends, the comrades and making a film that was personal, and also the heart of it a love story. a love story between mandela and winnie. >> and you play winnie. big jump from being in "skyfall" with james bond but a different kind of amazing man. you met winnie mandela. what was that like? >> it was great. i expected winnie to have this long laundry list of ideas about how she should be played, because, you know, that's what i would have if someone was playing me. but she was incredibly generous.

she said, look, the most important thing for me is that i want this role to be played truthfully, so all she asked of me was to do my research and come up with my own idea about who she was. so she gave me a great deal of freedom. >> tell me about that because she is a controversial figure. she is somebody who is both beloved and despised. history will eventually judge. but how did you approach this and what did you learn in the course of your research about winnie mandela? >> i really didn't know much about her at all. i knew about nelson mandela and his contribution to south africa but i didn't know about winnie so it was all really a revelation to me. i just went and approached the thing with a great deal of open-heartedness and i just wanted to really explore her and find out who is the woman behind all of these myths and behind all of these events that have happened. what was the emotional truth behind all of that. what motivated that. in order to find some connection with her and some level of compassion. but my job as an actress was

never to justify winnie's actions. >> but did you like her? >> by the end of it, yes. she's an incredibly warm, generous woman. but like most people, she's complex, so she has other sides as well. and that was the challenge in playing her was to bring out all of those different sides of her. >> justin, you devote time to the 27-year prison sentence, and anybody who has been over there, who has seen the apartheid museum, seen the conditions that existed in robin island, i mean it's ripe, obviously, for drama. i want to play a part of the courtroom scene where mandela pleads not guilty to the charges. >> i have cherished the ideal of a free democratic society where all persons live together in harmony with equal opportunities. it is an ideal which i hope to live for and achieve, but if need be, it is an ideal for

which i am prepared to die. >> how much time did you give to the idea of what people know, what people's perceptions are? this is, the word is overused, an iconic historical figure. >> we wanted -- i mean we all know mandela, the great political leader, the activist, but we don't know him as a young man, as a man that loved tailor, who was the most amazing lawyer in his early days, the first black lawyer in johannesburjoha. so we wanted to explore a mandela people don't know, that's not in the history books. i knew people that had been partying with him, knew he loved fast cars, knew he loved women, saw him as a boxer, a fighter, so those elements of the film were important to scratch away at the surface of the iconic figure from history and to see the man, the flesh and blood man. it makes his journey even more

extraordinary where you know where he came from, his beginnings, where he came from as a young boy. and that was a big part of the film making was to just scratch away and discover a man deeper we don't know. >> is there a sense of overwhelming responsibility, obviously this is the first movie and will not be the last to be made of someone who is living, in this case both nelson mandela, at his home in johannesburg, still critically ill, winnie mandela who has been seen quite a lot recently visiting him. do you feel that weight of historic responsibility or can you not let that affect your judgment? you're looking for a story, ultimately you're a filmmaker and you're an actor? >> we had the backing of the family, we had the backing of the foundation and a lot of the comrades living that story and living the story today. we're given freedom to tell the story but it's a personal take on it. the overriding thing with us as

filmmakers and actors is we just approached it with absolute truth. 360-degree sets that were real, populated by men and women that are living in south africa in the struggle today, in those areas. so for us there was a responsibility to just get it right and to be truthful. and to be truthful to the men and women that we're representing in the film. >> but you do feel that sense of responsibility, absolutely, and it feels like an enormous pressure and weight. >> but winnie liked it, right? she's seen it? >> she's seen it and she's super happy, along with lots of other comrades. people that were ill prisoned with nelson mandela, they came along to our premiere in south africa and they are all really pleased with the result and feel as though it really represents their struggle and their time truthfully. so we're so happy and we're so proud. >> it is "mandela, long walk to freedom." it opens this friday, november 29th. great to have both of you here. thank you so much. that's going to wrap up this hour of "jansing & co." thomas roberts is up next. >> that looks like a thoughtful

and amazing film. i look toward to seeing that. hi, everybody, good morning to you. the agenda next hour, a nuclear freeze deal with iran is getting the cold shoulder from israel along with members of congress from the left and the right. is it an historic agreement or historic mistake, as b.b. netanyahu calls it. we'll talk about the fine print and the fallout coming up. plus a deadly winter storm smacks texas and is heading east as america gears up for thanksgiving weekend and all the travel involved with that. we'll track the latest with bill kari karins. and civil rights activist want hate crime charges against four white students accused of harassing a black student at san jose state university. why this case goes beyond bullying and hazing. that and much more coming up.

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we wanted to rethink that whole industry, so we go and put out these sensors in each parking spot and then there's a mesh network that takes this information sends it over the internet so you can go find exactly where those open parking spots are. the collaboration with citi was important for providing us the necessary financing; allow this small start-up to go provide a service to municipalities. citi has been an incredible source of advice, how to engage with municipalities, how to structure deals, and as we think about internationally, citi is there every step of the way. so the end result is you reduce congestion, you reduce pollution and you provide a service to merchants, and that certainly is huge. good morning, everybody. i'm thomas roberts. topping our agenda today, iran's nuclear freeze. the fallout, the fact and then the fiction. just days after signing this historic freeze pact with iran,

the white house has already pivoted to the hard sell with skeptics emerging both at home and abroad. before we get to the hits, runs and errors of this global reaction, let's look at the anatomy of this deal, how it was hammered out by this group of six world powers. now, it freezes iran's nuclear program in place for six months. and it allows for daily inspections of iran's nuclear facilities. here's what iran gets in return. $6 to $7 billion in eased sanctions. both president obama and secretary of state john kerry cautiously celebrating the deal as step one in a very long walk. >> while today's announcement is just a first step, it achieves a great deal. >> now the really hard part begins, and that is the effort to get the comprehensive agreement. >> among the world leaders panning the deal is benjamin netanyahu. he announced he's sending envoys to the u.s. one day after he blasted the freeze with