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local store today. 32 states and 200 million people expected to deal with a winter storm bringing snow, rain and tricky travel for thanksgiving. >> reporter: i'm tom costello at atlanta's hartsfield jackson international airport where it is cold and wet today and expected to come down even more in the coming hours. we have some delays and cancellations. those could build. this is the busiest airport in the world. 63 million people coming through here last year. we could see significant delays rippling across the country because what happens here affects thousands of flights directly and even more indirectly. >> here in chicago the skies are clear and lines are moving smoothly, but with so many passengers connecting through this hub, any delays on the east coast are sure to ripple
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throughout the country and passengers here could start seeing delays and possibly cancellations. >> reporter: here in virginia about an hour west of roanoke, virginia, we woke up to freezing rain. it sounded like rain and looks like rain until it freezes on contact with everything is touches. this is just a simple blade of grass here, but the cars were coated as well as the bridges and the overpasses. >> we'll have more on the weather coming up. meantime, president obama heckled over deportations at an event in san francisco, but when it comes to immigration, he's now supporting a piecemeal approach to get something done. and just in time for thanksgiving, a $5 billion cut to food stamps, but republicans want even deeper cuts to the farm bill. something else congress cannot agree on. good morning, i'm chris jansing. right now president obama is finding it hard to get the conversation away from controversy. this week's west coast swing was supposed to highlight immigration and the economy.
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instead, he's pushing back against criticism of the temporary deal struck to freeze iran's nuclear program. >> we cannot close the door on diplomacy, and we cannot rule out peaceful solutions to the world's problems. we cannot commit ourselves to an endless cycle of conflict. and tough talk and bluster may be the easy thing to do politically, but it's not thing for our security. >> but a couple of key democrats are pushing a vote on new, even tougher sanctions on iran. senate majority leader harry reid indicated it's something the senate will consider after the break. let me bring in our company, josh barrow, politics editor for the business insider and neeya malika henderson. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> so we know the senate is not back in until december 9th and we know if new sanctions are imposed on iran it could torpedo this deal. how's this going to play out? >> chuck schumer has come out
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and spoken very pointedly about this saying that he wants to see new sanctions, that the senate will vote. they have got about eight legislative days come tess and so you have heard them seemingly be poised to scuttle this deal that the president was able to broker with kerry and the p-5 plus 1 countries. i think you've also heard from the arab world, places like saudi arabia haven't commented at all and that is certainly troubling too as well for this deal and for this president. of course he had those conversations with netanyahu who has called this an historic mistake so you could have a situation where you have democrats, typically allies of this president on foreign policy and republicans united in trying to push for some new sanctions. >> i'm not sure if you saw politico's headline today. it says harry reid's familiar spot, stuck in the middle. in a radio interview, he said when we come back, we'll take a look at this to see if we need
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stronger sanctions. what's your take on this, josh? how much of what we're seeing is really a serious problem for the president and how much of this is posturing. >> i think on the democratic side it's largely posturing. i think there's a lot of pressure on politicians on both sides to look tough on iran, to look like they want to drive as hard a bargain as possible. because this is a short-term deal there's a lot of room to come up with things that look tough but give the president room to be able to negotiate. you can always pass something that will say we'll come back and do sanctions if it doesn't look good after the six-month window. so i think there will be room for democrats to take a vote that allows them to say they took a tough stance without actually undermining the president's negotiating position. >> it was interesting to hear the president talk about the promises he made when he first ran for president. let me play that for you. >> as president and as commander in chief, i've done what i said. we ended the war in iraq, we brought our troops home. osama bin laden met justice.
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the war in afghanistan will end next year. >> what do you think of that, nia-malika, is that a subtle way of reminding people i've got this? >> that's right. and you hear from the white house that they are essentially making -- this is the real foreign policy of this president, the obama doctrine. it's all about diplomacy. what he had to do in those initial years was to clean up, the white house says, the mess that bush made. all of the land wars in iraq and afghanistan. and now it is also about diplomacy. of course it very much dovetails with where americans are, very much war weary, seen all of the blood and treasure lost over those two land wars so this is a pivot that very much is in keeping with where americans want to see this country going in terms of engagement on the global stage. >> but the president was in san francisco to talk about immigration, of course, and halfway through he was interrupted by a heckler. >> most importantly, we will live up to our character as a
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nation -- >> our families are separated. i need your help. there are thousands of immigrants -- >> that's exactly what we're talking about here. >> every single day. >> that's why we're here. >> so security tries to get this guy out. the president says let him stay. but the point they wanted to make was that they felt the president should use an executive order to stop deportations which he said he couldn't do. although given the prospects for immigration, josh, it does seem like or any legislation for that matter, that's the president's real opportunity almost anywhere is just an executive order, because congress isn't getting anything done. >> i think we're seeing that all over his agenda, trying to find ways to work around congress. we're seeing it on climate change, where the epa is looking at do some very aggressive things to limit carbon emissions because congress won't act on that. so i think the president looks for those opportunities wherever he can. but his powers are legally limited. he's already giving forebearance on certain deportations.
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while he will look for those avenues, he can't do everything that his base wants without congress approval. >> he's also getting impatient. the senate passed an immigration bill in june and so now the president says he's even open to doing this the house's way, piecemeal. let's take a listen to that. >> i understand there are a number of other house republicans who also want to get this done. some of them are hesitant to do it in one big bill like the senate did. that's okay. they can -- it's thanksgiving. we can carve that bird into multiple pieces. drum stick here, breast meat there. but as long as all of the pieces get done. >> so i mean i guess the question now, nia-malika, is even with a piecemeal approach will the house move on this or is it going to be like what we saw after newtown a year ago where republicans said this isn't about gun control, it's about mental health issues but nothing got done on mental health either. so they argued for immigration,
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we want a piecemeal approach. it's too big to do something comprehensive. now the president is saying okay. will they follow through? >> you know, it's hard to say. the president there sounding a lock like marco rubio, who initially -- he was one of the big backers for that immigration bill coming out of the senate, the face of that bill in many ways. he is now saying it should be a piecemeal deal was well. it all depends on what john boehner wants to do. does he want to bring a piecemeal deal? it doesn't seem like the president talked about a number of republicans who want to do a piecemeal deal. how many is unclear, if they actually have enough votes from those republicans to actually get something done and whether or not they think this is in keeping with what their constituents want, of course going into 2014. do they want to make this a campaign issue? would it come after 2014? the president doesn't have a lot of political capital left, so we'll have to see where this goes. >> i think there are two reasons
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for the president to push this. one is if the house passes something, even if it's a bunch of piecemeal bills, they can go into conference with the senate and that puts pressure on the house to pass comprehensive reform which incidentally is why republicans are so resistant to the piecemeal approach even though some of the pieces are things they actually would have consensus in the party they'd like to do. some of these votes will be tough votes for republicans. if you have piecemeal bills on, for example, something similar to the dream act for students who came as children and are now getting college degrees or if you have votes on things like high skill immigration, these are things that divide the republican caucus and so the president puts them in a tough position by goading them into taking these individual votes. >> josh, nia-malika, good to see both of you, thanks. this morning the question of why remains unanswered. even as the most comprehensive report yet on the newtown massacre is released. this report does offer a chilling portrait of 20-year-old
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gunman adam lanza as a loner, obsessed with mass murder and violence. the windows in his room were taped over with garbage bags and he only communicated with his mother by e-mail even though they were living in the same house. the report found adam lanza acted alone and took just about five minutes to kill 26 people, including 20 children, before he took his own life. national security adviser susan rice on her way back to the states right now after putting pressure on afghan president hamid karzai to sign the security deal soon, or the u.s. may pull all troops out of afghanistan by the end of next year, but he wants all prisoners out of gitmo and a ban on any u.s. raids on afghan homes. karzai says he won't sign any deal before april's elections, which the white house says is unacceptable. florida republican leaders calling on congressman trey radle to resign. the state party chair and two county chairs issuing statements encouraging radle to step aside to focus on his drug recovery.
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key senators are pushing ahead with a bill that would reinstate all sanctions on iran and create new ones if iran doesn't roll back its nuclear program. republican mark kirk and democratic bob menendez hope to have that bill ready when lawmakers return from recess on december 9th. the white house is concerned the move could derail this weekend's historic agreement to freeze iran's program in exchange for the easing of sanctions. i want to bring in congressman adam schiff, democrat from california and a senior member of the intelligence committee. always good to see you, congressman, good morning. >> thanks, chris. good morning. >> so are you in favor of giving the administration time to test this new agreement? >> i am. i think there's several
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objectives that are accomplished in the agreement that are very important. iran has to get rid of its 20% enriched stockpile. it has to freeze its stockpile of 3.5% uranium. it has to freeze work on the reactor, the heavy water reactor at iraq. all those things i think are very positive, and what we give up is a small lifting of the freeze on iranian assets. not much to help the iranian economy. so i'm concerned about the talk of additional round of sanctions right now. the congress really needs to be working in concert with the president on this. this is one of the preeminent national security challenges of the day. and we don't do well in negotiation if we are internally divided. >> but you know what the argument is, including from some on your own side that this was an uneven agreement. that in fact iran got more than it gave, and they can't be trusted on this. >> well, i agree that they can't be trusted and no one is asking for a blind trust or any trust really of the iranians, that's part of the reason why the agreement also includes daily
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inspections of these nuclear facilities, something that we've never had. at the same time, though, whether it's an uneven bargain, i think it may be uneven in our favor in the sense that what we're giving up for a very small amount of financial relief, we're gaining a freeze on their nuclear program and a roll back of their nuclear program. in the absence of this deal, if we just continue to negotiate over the next six months trying to get to a final agreement half a year from now, they would be continuing to enrich, continuing to install new centrifuges which is prevented by this agreement. so look, if you compare it to an ideal agreement, which would be one in which the iranians completely capitulate, it's going to fall short. but when you're negotiating with an adversary, you don't get everything you want. i think the negotiators, the p-5 plus 1 got a pretty good interim deal. i do think, chris, it's going to be awfully tough to get that final agreement six months from now. we need to be realistic about that. and we also need to use every resource we have through those
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inspections, through our intelligence agencies, to make sure we uncover any iranian cheating if they do cheat. and if they do, that's the end, and the sanctions get multiplied. >> in the meantime there's another deadline looming a lot closer than six months. i'm talking about obama care. the president touched on it at a dnc fund-raiser in san francisco yesterday. let me play it. >> folks have fought us every step of the way but we have kept on going and this website is going to get fixed and we are going to be signing people up. >> but of course what the president said and what the white house has made as its self-imposed deadline is now just four days away. yesterday they warned that some people are still going to have problems. i mean how concerned are you? first of all, about the fact that people are still likely to have problems, but also the political implications, that it could be more ammunition for republicans heading into the midterms? >> well, i am concerned that we've had this flawed rollout and a lot of people have been
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frustrated trying to enroll online, but the website is improving. it is gaining access for people who want to enroll in the health insurance plans. at the bottom -- at the end of the day, the most important thing is are we insuring people, are we giving them affordable coverage. and there i think the affordable care act is going to be a success. it is going to be rocky in its implementation, any major reform will be, but we should measure it against what it's intended to achieve. it's intended to achieve insurering about 32 million people that don't have insurance, helping to constrain health care costs. we've already seen the lowest increase in health care costs in the last 50 years. the lowest rate of increase in health care costs. so we're already seeing some important objectives met. but, boy, i certainly would have preferred a flawless rollout of this. i hope people will go back to the website and try again, because there are some great opportunities to get affordable coverage, and i think this does move our country in the right direction. >> adam schiff, always good to
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the pennsylvania turnpike, i-80 through pennsylvania, there is a coating of snow out there so be careful, especially at the higher elevations. we're now starting to fill in the rain up and down the eastern seaboard. virginia now covered in rain, maryland and delaware. that soon will be heading up into the northeast for the evening rush hour. again, just rain. also we've got a chance of some tornados down here in the areas of northern florida, tallahassee area especially. we'll watch you carefully this afternoon. so here's my expected airport delays for today. the most significant delays or cancellations. atlanta, charlotte and raleigh. the worst of that weather is now arriving in those areas. it will be a little worse as we get towards the evening. d.c., just a little rain, not too bad. the most significant delays and cancellations will likely take place wednesday morning at the airports around new york city, hartford back up into boston. winds could gust 40 to 50 miles per hour. that's wednesday morning, boston into the afternoon. new york city should clear out by about 10:00 a.m. and then the snow side of this storm, talking as much as 4 to 8 inches pittsburgh, buffalo,
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syracuse, burlington, even cleveland could pick up two or three inches of snow on the far back side of this system. as far as the heavy rain goes, this will be later tonight, all through tomorrow morning. significant rain, 2 to 3 inches from new york city up into hartford and into boston. the best advice i can give everyone driving, if you can do it as late as possible on wednesday, the better. >> i'll be tweeting my snowman pictures from cleveland. >> are you going make a snow angel for me? i'm going to hold you to that. >> no. i talk a good game. i'll be inside by the fireplace. thank you very much. with my hot chocolate. so if you are flying, what do you do to prepare yourself for this mess at the airports? tom parsons is ceo of bestfares.com. always good to see you, tom, good morning. >> well, good morning. it's pretty cool down here in texas too. >> it's what down in texas? >> i said it's cold in texas, but i think we're going to look good for the holidays, yes. >> good. not so much on the east coast. >> yes. >> and so two million people flying tomorrow, we've seep lots
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of flight cancellations, sure to be more tomorrow. what's your best advice to folks who are flying tomorrow? >> oh, i tell you what, it's best to keep up with your flights. one of the things you should do is sign up for the airlines what they call notification of flight delays or cancellations, what gate you're going out of. i mean if you're going out of a big airport like dallas or chicago or even la guardia and they have multiple terminals, you really want to know what gate your plane is at. that's one of the best things i do and it keeps you up to date very well. other than that, if they cancel your flight, you don't have much time to be home for turkey day. if that was your choice and they cancel your flight and they cannot confirm you on another flight until maybe friday or saturday, then you are entitled to 100% of your money back. 100%. but they must cancel your flight. but if they do let you make changes and you decide maybe i will go home a little earlier, i'll come home a little bit later, many of them are starting
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to waive those fees, but it's really depending on the routes, the airports and the area of the country. if you go to the airline's website, they'll keep you updated on that very well. >> let's say, tom, i'm watching bill karins and i just saw whenever my flight is leaving is probably the worst possible time so i'm going to be proactive. i'm going to see if the airline will let me switch my flight. are there, apart from the weather, are there places, are there times of day that people should look at where they're likely to be more successful, knowing that we're dealing with a pretty small window of time here to get home for dinner. >> you know, for the next 48 hours, 72 hours, maybe even this weekend the weather may be bad too. you can always call the airlines. i'd use a lot of honey and no vinegar. the weather is starting to come in, i understand you're letting people make changes. is there any way i can get out of dodge maybe one or two hours
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earlier. i'm willing to make the change and do this. again, if they can find space and there's still seats available, they'll probably make those accommodations for you. the murphy law, though, is in my past experience is, yeah, here i've got a three hour earlier flight and they get to the airport and they cancel it. the one i was scheduled for takes off on time. so it's a russian roulette thing out there. >> we've all been there. t tom parsons, happy thanksgiving to you and yours. >> all right, thank you. >> we'll be right back. his anno. [ sniffles ] i better take something. [ male announcer ] dayquil cold and flu doesn't treat that. it doesn't? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast-acting antihistamine. oh what a relief it is! medicare open enrollment.ing of year again.. time to compare plans and costs. you don't have to make changes. but it never hurts to see if you can find better coverage, save money, or both.
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check out these headlines, the ashland daily tidings in oregon. food banks see dramatic rise in need. the "san francisco examiner," san francisco food bank short on turkeys but bigger issues lie ahead for food need in the city. and dramatic increase for in hungry seniors at sacramento food bank. so you've got the food banks reeling from the impact of $5 billion in food stamp cuts that went into effect earlier this month, about $36 a month per person. new york city's largest food bank says it's seen demand increase by a third since november 1st. and then we have this fight in the senate. $4 billion is the cuts that democrats want but over on the republican side in the house, almost $40 billion. chip, how do they find common
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ground here? >> well, i think the good news is they're both looking to cut. i think that's a start. they both decided on cutting direct payments to farmers. that was about a $14 billion cut. and if you look at the difference, a $40 billion and a $4 billion into a trillion dollar bill you're talking about two and a half percentage points where they're different. obviously those are real dollars when you're talking about people in need. and i think the republicans and democrats too are looking for ways not to hurt the people that need it the most. but each state does this in a different way, they use a different formula. if you look at minnesota and north dakota, south dakota, there's almost a $13,000 difference between those states. you've got some programs that allow an able-bodied person working 20 hours a week to be on food stamps and there's no requirements. the income level is really different. so i think they're going to do some hard work here but hopefully they'll figure this out. four days is a short window. >> you know, chip, when you hear the writ rirhetoric, particular
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the republican side, it's we're spending too much money on this, they want cut backs. it's not about the people being hurt. i'm wondering is it going to take an uproar from people who are not on food stamps when they have $7 a gallon milk to start calling their congressional offices before this bill gets done? >> back in 1976 with ronald reagan, the welfare queens has driven this debate for decades. but in reality, 72% of the households that are on food stamps are households with children. over 25% of households on food stamps are seniors and folks with disabilities. so we're talking about the most vulnerable among us. and unfortunately so much negativity has driven the debate, which has led to these cuts. so it will take an uproar from angry voters, but i do hope that a lot of the folks that are most impacted, in particular as i said seniors, actually help drive some of that debate. i hope it lasts until 2014,
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until the midterm elections. not sure it will. >> chip, this is the latest example of things that used to get done easily that don't anymore. vilsack tells "usa today" for example if we don't get it done i think it sends another negative message to the country about the workings of government. is he right? >> a negative message coming out of washington because republicans and democrats can't work together? i cannot imagine. but look, the farm bill has always had this formula where they put 70% of it, 80% of it -- excuse me, 60% in food stamps, 40% in subsidies. they get the rural, the inner city folks together and that's how they pass a farm bill. there's been some good things over the years but bad things as well. and i hope that both members, both republicans and democrats get and focus on taking care of those that need it but also worry about the waste and fraud that's rampant in these food stamp programs across the country. >> secretary vilsack has an idea about this that i think we'd hall like to believe would happen. he said a farm bill can get
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passed if everybody says, look, nobody wants $7 milk, nobody wants kids to be starving at thanksgiving and christmas time. maybe it will take some bipartisanship and that will lay the groundwork for maybe some other bipartisanship that can get some other things going. is that even within the realm of possibility? >> i'm not so sure. if you look at what's happened last week with the changes in the filibuster rules, there are republicans that are saying we want really good, important legislation to pass but we're not so sure this is the environment to do it. i think republicans are still reeling from what happened last week. i think they will hold it against important legislation that's going to come up. and again, are we going to be talking about this well into 2014, i'm not so sure. but i doubt very seriously that the bipartisanship that needs to actually get bills like this passed will actually come to pass. >> good to have you here. always didn't to see you, thank you. checking the news feed again this morning, the supreme court will decide today whether to take up a case involving the new
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have to pay to stash your cash. cnbc's mandy drury is here with what's moving your money. so there's this report that banks could start charging us if and when the fed pulls back on the stimulus. >> yeah, it's kind of an interesting story here. and again, it's just hypothetical, but here's what's happening, chris. major u.s. banks have warned that they could start charging companies and us, the consumer, for deposits if the fed cuts the interest it pays on bank reserves. it's already pretty tough, right, if you're a saver, you deposit your money in the bank and get very, very little interest. but if you have to start paying the bank just to park your money there, that's a whole different ball game. the question is why would banks do this? well, apparently it is one strategy that is being considered that the fed could use to offset the tapering, i.e. the cut in the bank reserve interest could be a way to add just a little stimulus back into the system at the same time the fed is pulling back on stimulus but someone has to bear the cost
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and that could be us. >> i'm no economist but the whole idea that i'll give you my money and you can hold on to it for a while but you're going to charge me for that, i don't know. let's talk about black friday, steals and deals. experts say it's actually this year the best year to be in the market for a tablet. >> everyone wants and needs a tablet these days. apparently ipads and tablets are this year's it item for black friday deals. this year's prices are the lowest we've ever seen, but that's not all. you've got walmart and target, they're offering $100 gift cards with ipad purchases and best buy is selling the kindle fire hd for half price and the microsoft surface is selling for under $200 for the first time ever. bottom line, chris, if you want one, you better get in quick because the deals are good. >> cnbc's mandy drury. i won't see you, so have a happy thanksgiving. >> you too. happy thanksgiving. >> if you read only one thick this morning, my must read is a test you have to take. it's simple, it's quick, it's just four questions.
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in a rare show of congressional bipartisanship four senators have introduced a bill to crack down on sex trafficking of minors. the statistics are shocking. the average age of someone getting into prostitution is between 12 and 14. the sex trade is the topic of a new msnbc documentary series about helping the victims of human trafficking get out of
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prostitution. >> in the middle of my conversation with chris, a member of the team all of a sudden comes up with footage they had recorded. >> and what do you know? yep. yeah, definitely is with him. no doubt. he stops, she stops. he moves back, she moves back. they walk in, they walk out together. so i think -- >> she's under pimp control. >> definitely from both of our experts. >> aaron cohen is the host of "slave hunter, freeing victims of human trafficking" and also a human rights activist. good for having you here. >> thanks for having me. >> you've been doing this for ten years. it's dangerous, it's got to be tough. why do you do it? >> well, i'm a man of faith and i feel as if the good news is freedom. you know, there is more slaves today than any time in human history. most people would be surprised to realize that human trafficking is a big problem here in the u.s. >> yeah, most people do think it happens somewhere else, but i was shocked, frankly, that i saw a scene in the first episode
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that's just a couple of blocks from where we're sitting right now. you went into the apartment of a prostitute who was trying to get out. >> you know, these prostitute girls, a lot of them are under what we call pimp control. so i was shocked when i began investigations with my partner, detective chris bofman out of las vegas, he's a retired detective, he's pioneered all these techniques for conducting an investigation. sure enough we started doing the work here in manhattan and the majority of the women that we saw, i'm the undercover in one room and in another room is a security detail headed up by detective bofman. and the majority of the girls that came through our investigation were under pimp control. >> you identify these women from online ads and then you pose as a customer. and then they come in. you want to get a sense of whether or not they're someone who might want help, might be open to help. let me play another clip of a
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conversation you had. >> i'm in a position to help you if you want it. but you've got to make some promises to me, though. >> i want to, yes. >> i want you to live. i want you to live. >> yes. wow. that's inspiring. >> again, the statistics are shocking. the vast majority of prostitutes want to get out of the business, they just don't know how because their pimps are so threatening, right? >> well, you know, melissa farley, of prostitutionresearch.com has conducted a massive survey worldwide and it shows statistically that the majority of prostituted women would leave the life if they were given another opportunity. >> so tell us what you do, for example, in this instance when someone shows not just a willingness, but a real desire to get out of the life. >> well, the thing is, is that the way -- we call it the game and they call it the life. it's a game because they're
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compartmentalizing to create a fantasy in their mind that this is somehow not real. they call it the life because it's a life sentence. when a woman comes under pimp control, even in our country enter in very early, age 13, age 14. when we encounter these victims in the room, what we're looking to do is find out, first of all, if they're a victim. if they are a victim, then we're going to look for their dreams and we're going to begin to win their trust and try to find a pathway out of that enslavement into freedom. >> well, enslavement doesn't even hardly begin to describe some of the things that we saw just in the couple of episodes that i looked at. women who actually were doused in gasoline and threatened with matches by their pimps, guerrilla pimps, is that what you call them? >> yes. there's a big tradition in our culture, in our country to sort of glamorize pimp culture. but the good news is, there's a new trend to move away from this.
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snoop doggy dog and others are moving away from pimp culture. it's just not cool to objectify women anymore. >> let me ask you about the bill that we talked about that has just been proposed. two republicans, two democrats. it's similar to a minnesota safe harbor law. basically it helps ensure that minors who are brought into the sex trade aren't prosecuted as defendants, they're seen as victims, which it's almost counterintuitive but that for a long time if they wanted to turn somewhere for help, they could end up in jail as prostitutes, right? >> it is unbelievable, it's 2013 and we still use the term child prostitute. that's an oxymoron. a child cannot consent to sexual acts. so if a child is prostituted, they're a victim and we need to treat the victims as victims. in countries where they have the lowest human trafficking statistics in the world, like in scandinavian, they attack the demand, they attack the traffickers and they don't
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revictimize the victims. and we're starting to see that trend here in the united states. there's new get tough laws that are happening here in new york with the district attorney. so we're starting to see the culture in our country change, but unfortunately it's just now starting to change and we have a lot of work to do. >> so what is the message you want people to walk away from this series or any given episode of it, understanding that they didn't know before. i have to say we do -- have done a number of segments on this issue, on human trafficking and on the exploitation of minors on this program, and i learned quite a few new things just watching this. what do you want people to walk away from this knowing, or maybe understanding a way that they can help? >> well, number one, human trafficking is not something happening over there in cambodia or india or mexico. yes, it happens there, but it's happening right here in the united states. that's number one. we have a problem with human trafficking in our country. and number two, men in our country who feel entitled to buy
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sex need to understand that they're contributing to this incredible demand. and as long as the demand for human trafficking is big, both in labor and in sex trafficking, as long as there's a big demand, we're going to have to -- there's going to be organizations that lure, coerce and get women to satisfy that demand. the only way to reduce the supply is attack the demand. i want the country to know that, a, we have a big problem with human trafficking, and, b, we need to attack the demand. >> aaron cohen, thank you for coming in. aaron is the host of "slave hunter, freeing victims of human trafficking." and don't forget the documentary premieres right here on msnbc december 1st at 10:00 p.m. thanks again. >> thank you. it has been a busy year of news and the world almanac is out with their list of the top news stories of the year. number five, the overthrow of egyptian president mohamed morsi. revelations of widespread surveillance by the nsa. number three, the supreme court's ruling to fully recognize legally married
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same-sex couples. syria's use of chemical weapons is number two. and the number one story of 2013, the 16-day government shutdown. we'll be right back. which rewards her for responsibly managing her card balance. before receiving $25 toward her balance each quarter for making more than her minimum payment on time each month. tracey got the bankamericard better balance rewards credit card, which fits nicely with everything else in life she has to balance. that's the benefit of responsibility. apply online or visit a bank of america near you.
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to politics now where new york governor andrew cuomo joins the ranks of bruce willis, daniel day-lewis and colin firth as one of the sexiest men alive over 50. this is his second time on the list. hold the steak and eggs for al gore. he's gone vegan, reportedly making the dietary change a few months ago so now he's got something else in common with bill clinton who's been vegan for more than three years. washington congressman kathy mcmorris rogers broke a record this week becoming the first woman to give birth three times while serving in congress. brynn was born sunday, joining her brother and sister. mom is planning to run for a sixth term next year. and a new study indicates
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having daughters makes parents more likely to be republicans. the authors say parents of daughters tend to prefer more socially conservative policies attracting them to the gop. that wraps up this hour of "jansing & co." i'm chris jansing. thomas roberts is up next. >> that's an interesting breakdown right there. i think that's fascinating, chris. you have a great holiday, safe travels. >> thank you. good morning. the agenda next hour, wild winter weather slamming much of the country and threatening travel for millions of americans. we'll tell you what you need to know before you hop on a plane, train or jump isn't an automobile and hit the roads. and chilling new details bts young man behind the sandy hook massacre. we'll talk about what this means for gun control. the conversation we're having in our country and also the conversation that we're not having in this country about our mentally ill. plus a new jersey waitress who claims that she was stiffed for a tip because she's gay and the customers left a hateful message on that receipt. now the couple that she served say they did no such thing and
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hi, everybody, good morning. i'm thomas roberts. topping our agenda today, new questions this morning after the release of the sandy hook shooting report. it contains very provocative and shocking details, but nothing to explain a new motive. this 48-page report states that adam lanza suffered from significant mental health issues that affected his ability to live a normal life and to interact with others. hear more disturbing details, that he spent the last few months of his life mostly in his room, his windows covered with black trash bags. he communicated with his mom only via e-mail, despite living in the same home. and he was obsessed with the columbine shooting and other mass shootings. in 2005 he was sddiagnosed withs perger's disorder. one victim's father has read this report but says he chooses to remember her bravery rather
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than learn more about her killer. >> i'm proud of my daughter, that she stood there in front of 15 little kids and took the bullets. that is amazing. i'm very proud of her. >> joining me now is democratic congressman jim himes of connecticut. good morning. >> good morning. >> this report is painting the picture of a severely disturbed young man. it states as he got older, the conditions seem to get worse and he became more of a loner, yet this report also shows that his mom was planning to buy him a pistol for christmas that year. what's your takeaway from the access that we're now learning from this report? >> well, you're right, it is a very disturbing report to read, to relive those moments that i think all of us remember and get such specificity and detail.

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