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the right-wing delivers a crazy '13. let's play "hardball." held jobs i'm chris matthews in washington. politicians on the right have done some disturbing and destructive things. they derailed every major item they could including gun control, immigration, budget and work proclamation administration. when they did take up legislation more like this, 45 separate votes to kill the affordable care act.
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countless measures attacking the poor. they advanced bills in three dozen states to suppress the voting rights of minorities. they almost toppled the economy by bringing us to the brink of a default. they shut down the government. if you think what they did was outrageous, listen to what they said this year. >> for everyone that's a valedec torch rian there's another one that weighs 130 pounds and has
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the size of cantaloupes. >> their hatred of the president. they are denial of reality. the antics of ted cruz and a special section devoted entirely to steve king of iowa. joining me is our panel of "hardball" all-stars. howard fineman. david cohen. jonathan and joan walsh. let's get started right now with a look at the far right's hatred of president obama. number three on our list in our countdown goes to u.s. congressman of texas. the tea partier grabbed headlines when he sided with birthers and openly discussed impeaching the president. he's an are a dent supporter of
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ted cruz 2016. this is a clip from his appearance here on "hardball" in september. it's remarkable. >> obama is president, ted cruz can be president. >> this is serious business. is he eligible to be president? you've been touting the guy. >> i think he's eligible. i'm giving you a yes answer. >> if obama was born overseas even that crazy theory of donald trump is true he still would be eligible to be president by that standard. >> we're talking about ted cruz. >> can't you project an inch mentally. >> i'm telling you president obama is the president. if he's eligible to be president -- >> you brought this up. >> what better way -- yes. >> was he a legitimately elected president of the united states? >> i wasn't in congress to determine that. that was determined before i got here. >> howard fineman he won't do it. he's afraid of losing one or two votes. >> if you dig down to the very core, to the ninth level of --
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to the ninth level of the anti-obama movement, you find people who not only view him from another party or another country but practically from another planet. and the president is fully aware of this. i remember him saying, a lot of these people don't even think i was born here and he wasn't sure what he meant here. that's the theology of it. there's a theological belief at the heart of this, the president is somehow not only legitimate, not american, not even from
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here, that's an element of theology with these people. it goes back to the birthism and rejection of him from the body politic. they never accepted his legitimacy. >> i think a cosmic thing is true. >> if for you're ted cruz who was born to an american mother up in kentucky, i'm all for that. the worst crazy thing is donald trump is president obama was born to an american mother in kenya. if you accept cruz as a president then you should accept president obama as a legitimate president. he wouldn't answer it. even in the narrow bounds i set it up. >> chris you're asking for something they can't give you. you're asking for some moral and political integrity and consistency and they don't have it when it comes to this president. >> number two. goes to tea party congressman of michigan during a town hall event in august. he wanted to impeach the president and he couldn't
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tolerate the president's mere physical presence. this is a u.s. congressman responding to a question about impeachment. let's listen. >> if i could write that bill -- >> do it. >> yeah. >> excuse me. it would be a dream come true. i feel your pain. i stood 12 feet away from the guy and i couldn't stand being there. >> i couldn't stand being there. david, you'll get a shot. this thing about cooties, some physical presence that disturbs me. people go to work every day. they deal with people they don't know or like. you have to do business in sales. nobody ever said -- this is high school stuff. i don't even know what it is. >> everybody at this table has been in a room with barack obama. it's really not hard to be near barack obama. he's smart, he's engaging. he does reach out to people he disagrees with. he wants to win the argument. he can be fierce as a debater. but, by and large he's not a difficult person to
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be around. it's not about barack obama in reality. it's what barack obama stands for and picking up on what howard and joan said a moment ago, it's rejection but it's because they believe when a political cultural fight and obama embodies everything they can't stand. >> i think he believes it. i think he doesn't like the president. most of these folks don't like the president. we're talking about folks who come to congress a lot of thermometer aren't smart. the guy you interviewed in that first clip said i wasn't here to determine whether the president is legitimately president. these are folks who failed school house rock. this is what's ridiculous about this. and the level of disrespect
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shown the president. >> i remember dick cavett, i only believe what i see. have you been to japan? no. do you believe there's a tokyo. >> number three goes to a tea party activist david clayman. clayman's wild rant grabbed the headlines. let's listen. comment on this. >> a president who bows down to allah. this president is not a president of we the people. he's the president of his people. i call upon all of you to wage a second american nonviolent revolution, to use civil disobedience and demand this president leave town, to get out. to put the koran down, to get up off his knees and figuratively
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come out with his hands up. >> my god that's hell of a demand. put your hands up, put down the koran, get off your knee or else we'll have a nonviolent second american revolution. >> we elected that president twice. i love how he throws in figuratively. so we can't say he's inciting violence. also let's remember this is the rally where there was a guy with a confederate flag right there. they are outside the home of a black family. they are outside their home telling them to get out. i mean this is where people -- >> an eviction notice. >> an eviction notice. we elected that man to lead us twice. they don't accept his legitimacy and don't accept ours. but there's something so deep and so disturbing by taking that to -- i know it's the people's house and our house but they live there. that was just so deeply disturbing to me. i don't know if ted cruz was ever to disavow any of that. he was there at that rally. that was the same event. why aren't they asked to disavow
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that. >> last word here. clear to the crazy. if the president were a tyrant, if he were an imperial power, dictating to the world, why are you able to be such clowns in front of his house. attacking the man to attacking his plan. the republicans saved some of their craziest talk for the affordable care act. this the "hardball" the place for politics. sues like a squirrel stashes nuts, you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec® liquid gels. nothing starts working faster than zyrtec® at relieving your allergy symptoms for 24 hours. zyrtec®. love the air. hi boys! i've made you campbell's chunky new england clam chowder. wow! this is incredible! i know. and now it has more clams! [ male announcer ] campbell's chunky soup. what? [ male announcer ] it fills you up right.
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we're back with more of the crazy on the right with our panel. this is the year republicans in the house of representatives shut down the government and contemplating defaulting on our
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debt in order to get the president to abandon his signature legislative achievement, the affordable care act. but that didn't stop them from holding the country hostage. there were many examples of the misinformation campaign launched by the far right to turn the country against the health care law. here are three of the oddest moments. michele bachmann cheered on the shutdown, declaring victory even as the country turns strongly against the republican tactic and warned if the law wasn't repealed it would literally kill women, children and senior citizens. bachmann topped herself with this victory dance on fox news after the shutdown was over. after the law's troubled roll out. number three on our list. let's watch it. >> we hate to say we told you so but quite honestly we look like geniuses now because we predicted this would happen. we didn't want this to happen
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because we want people to have health insurance that works for them, for their family. >> what looking glass -- >> genius and michele bachmann don't usually go in the same sentence. these people remind me a little bit of the roadrunner cartoons where they keep slamming into the same mountain. yes there are problems with the rollout. yes it's complex. yes the president admitted there are problems. most american people want to see it work, they want to see health care extended, they want to see reform of the health care system and that's what the president is doing. >> when it comes to the affordable care act the right-wing is looking for a gotcha moment. if they can't find it they are okay making it up. take a look what happened at the epa hearing. paul brown tried to make some news with this question. listen carefully to how miss mccarthy responds and watch how
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he distorts it. >> let me ask you one more question because my time is running out. are you signed up for obama care? >> no, i am not. >> why not? >> because i'm lucky enough as a federal government that i have hearth available for me which i signed up for. in a few years when that's not the case i'll be happy to have other -- >> our president says obama care -- >> to be clear mccarthy is referring to the fact that she's lucky enough to already have health insurance. she's not knocking the affordable care act. a few minutes later, congressman stockman interprets her words differently. that's number two in our countdown. >> you gave me my favorite tweet of the day which is i'm lucky enough -- the quote is from you. it says i'm lucky enough not to have to sign up for obama care. that's wonderful. i wish my constituents could say the same.
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>> i'm referring to i'm lucky enough to have access to good health care. which the -- >> i'll still take your quote for the record. i wrote it down. >> my father is a court reporter. he had to write down in court what people said. he would have lasted about three minutes, this guy. he completely changed what he said and said it to her face. he read it back to her. >> remember what i said during the last blog a lot of these people aren't very smart. exhibit b. not what she said. she's the environmental protection agency -- >> right. now you tweet your distortions immediately. when it comes to health care there's a lot of hysteria.
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>> this commission and noncommission officer corps will be trained but i want to know are they using we fons train or are they being taught to use syringes and health care items. >> joan, what is the army of people bearing syringes -- what are they putting syringes up over their shoulder? what are we talking about. what fear zone he's talking about. army of body snatchers indoctrinating people with death panel juice. >> we have a theme here. we have three guys from texas which makes me worry about my friends in texas. these are the people that believe there are fema camps that obama is preparing to round
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us up, not us, them and put them in fema camps. they play on the most based paranoia of a fringe of people and get elected and re-elected. >> up next, republicans flat out denied reality. these people are somewhat unscientific, don't you think? this is "hardball", the place for politics. otion has an active naturals oat formula that creates a moisture reserve so skin can replenish itself. aveeno® naturally beautiful results.
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we're back with our panel. next we're going to take a look at the reality deniers of the right-wing. these are the folks for whatever reason still don't or won't get it. kicking off this category at number three is georgia congressman paul brown a creationist who shuns science in favor of the literal interpretation of the bible. this guy sits on the house committee on science, space and
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technology. have a listen to what he told a group of his supporters last year. >> all this stuff i was talking about, evolution, big bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pitt of hell. it's lies to try to keep me and all the folks who were taught that from understanding that they need a savior. i hold the holy bible as being the major directions to me of how i vote in washington, d.c. and i'll continue to do that. joan, i think he's speaking at a natural history museum of all places, denying the connection of us all there. i don't know why we test our medicines on animals. there seems to be a lot of connection physically with us and the rest of this world. this guy denies all of that. he believes somehow it happened exactly as it was in the bible, as he interprets the bible and that's how he decides to vote on, the science committee in the house. >> these are lies straight from the pit of hell. even if you disagree with him there are some other things straight from the pit of hell
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that don't have to do with evolution. it's this incredible paranoia. he wants to be the senator from georgia. he thinks he's got a bright future in georgia politics. and all we can hope is georgia slowly steadily turns purple and then blue and we don't have to deal with the paul browns of the world any more. >> i'm glad he wasn't running nasa back in the '60s. i don't know what we would have done. next up number two. this comes from one time president yam candidate, host of the christian broadcast network, the 700 club, pat robertson. the right-wing televangelist went to yale law. this was a whopper accusation he made last summer and owe controversy at the time that the christian broadcast network removed it from their show shortly after he spoke it. >> in san francisco, some of the gay community, they want to get
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people so if they got the stuff they will have a ring, shake hands and the ring has a thing where you cut your finger. >> really? >> really. vicious stuff which is equivalent to murder. >> your thoughts on the subject? where did he get this wives tale? what do you call this tale? >> a lie. a damnable lie. this is a man who blames the gays for everything. hurricanes, earthquakes, name the natural disaster, whatever calamity -- >> 9/11. >> don't know if he went that far. >> he was close. >> so, that he would accuse people with hiv and gay people with hiv intentionally going out with some sort of wicked decoder ring, cutting people and giving them hiv is outrageous.
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>> finally our number one reality denier republican congressmen of florida speaking to "the washington post" on the prospect of defaulting on the u.s. debt. he made this outrageous claim that contradicted economists all over the earth. we need to have that moment where we realize we're going broke. i think personally it would bring stability to the world markets. your thoughts, howard. we're still suffering from the near miss of '11, near miss of '13. he thought he better go off the cliff. >> this is an economic thinking. this is apocalyptic thinking. with a piece with the way this part of the american landscape thinks. everything is an apocalypse. apocalypses are good. you want creative destruction. you want everything to fall apart because it's only when everything falls apart that you pick up the true belief. whatever the true belief is. whether it's the holy bible, whether it's the gold standard, whatever simplistic notion there is. >> thank you all.
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