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>> what are you talking about? >> wrap it up now. >> if it's way too early, what time is it, mika? >> "morning joe." now time for "the daily rundown" with chuck todd. have a great, safe day, everybody. >> a massive memorial service for nelson mandela this morning. historic gathering of world leaders. and how close are we to an actual nuclear deal with iran? secretary kerry tried to convince congressional skeptics from both sides of the aisle today. we'll talk to the chairman leading that hearing, ed royce. plus, a primary problem for the number two senate republican, an old clinton confidant headed back to the west wing. that and more in today's databank. good morning.
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it's tuesday, december 10th. taking a deep zbooif the suburbs in about 20 30 minutes. we'll have the latest on the wave of snow across the northeast that you can see many the live footage behind me. the white house almost looks like blizzard conditions with our camera there. we'll begin in south africa and the massive memorial service for nelson mandela. the so i remember is still going on at the fnb soccer stadium in see wee toe. 95,000 seats in that stadium, the largest on the entire african continent. more than 90 world leaders and thousands of south africans braifd incredibly tight security and bad weather to attend the public service this morning. the memorial started about an hour late. the audience was a who's who of world politics. dignitaries from 60 nations arrived one after the other starting at 4:00 a.m. eastern. hamid karzai arrived with heavy security. nelson mandela's ex-wife, winnie, a huge figure in the fight against apartheid, arrived
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this morning with friends. she joined mandela's widow and grandchildren near the podium. china's vice president delivered a speech in a tribute to mandela. retired anglican bishop desmond tutu was seated near the former secretary-general of the u.n., kofi annan, and dignitaries from the united kingdom. despite the rain, the crowd cheered and sang along throughout the entire program. ♪ three of his 18 grandchildren took turns speaking for the mandela family. they were greeted with overwhelming cheers. >> he towered over the world like a comet, leaving streaks of light for us to follow. we salute you. m mandiba -- [ speaking foreign language ]
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>> the giant tree has fallen leaving messages of peace, of love, and reconsideration. >> child of the wind, of the land, child of dreams of the future where black and white, rich and poor, men, women, and children must live side by side dreaming the same dream, realizing that the crucible of time in our land, we salute you. >> president obama, the first lady, the clintons, the bushes, they didn't leave for the memorial until after it started. somewhat for security reasons. eventually, the three former presidents were all seated together. president obama got a warm welcome and greeted the mandela family before he took the podium to pay tribute. at one point the president openly challenged the other world leaders that were in the audience with him. >> there are too many people who
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happily embrace mandela's dream of reconciliation but passion resists even modest reforms that would challenge growing inequality. there are too many leader who is claim solidarity with his struggle for freedom but do not tolerate the same from their own people. and there are too many of us, too many of us on the sidelines, comfortable in complacency or cynicism when our voices must be heard. >> after sending that message to world leaders, the president finished on a personal note. >> and while i will always fall short of madiba's example, he makes me want to be a better man. he speaks to what's best inside
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us. >> leaders from china, namibia, cuba, were also invited to speak. in fact, at one point, you saw president obama shaking hands with cuba's president, castro. when south africa's current president took the stage, you could hear the crowd booing. >> graca michel -- [ speaking foreign language ] the entire mandela family. >> the government is playing ten days of tributes to nelson mandela. sunday was the national day of prayer. for the rest of the week, mandela will lie in state in pretoria, where he was originally tried and sentenced to life in prison. he'll be buried in the small rural town of his ancestry on sunday. the events over the next few days will cover more than 600
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miles and it starts with today's memorial in soweto. mandela's casket will travel to pretoria and friday will be buried 555 miles south. i'm joined lester holt in south africa. lester, paint the picture what's going on there now. and how did folks brave the elements so far? >> well, chuck, first of all, forgive odd-looking microphone. i'm told it's the best way to deal with the very loud sound over here. i know it looks a little weird. anyway, this is about to end. it's gone on for about four hours. thft, i think this is the closing song. it has been a stirring tribute. it was not a capacity crowd as many thought. this is a capacity of 90,000 and fell far short of that. there was a steady rain falling all day but in african culture that's considered a good sign, a sign of rebirth. that's what this was about, about the rebirth of south africa, after nelson mandela's
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release from prison back in 1990. i think for me some of the most moving moments in the day weren't what took place on that stage. they were spending time with the people rushing in here at 6:00 this morning, the looks on their faces and the stories they told me of their gratitude for how their lives were personally changed by this becoming a democratic country and what nelson mandela did. that's kind of what really got me today. but scenes you're looking at right now are just amazing. there's been lots of spontaneous dancing and singing in the stadium, even as the regular program was going on. you hear a lot about celebrating lives but there is something of passion with the south african people and they ruely have been set bralt battleground stating the life of nelson mandela this week. >> i know president obama was really warmly received by that crowd. what about some of the other world leaders? >> you know, ban ki-moon, the u.n. secretary-general, got a huge ovation as well. the u.n. obviously was, you
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know, a big part of the changes here. you know, the crowd a few times was actually chastised by the master of ceremonies because they would start kind of doing their own celebration in various parts of the stadium. but, you know, as i said earlier, it's a singing culture. it's one of the most beautiful things i've enjoyed this week is the spontaneous singing and dancing on the street. i will admit there have been a few times the only thing that kept me from dancing on the streets was the fact that it would show up much later. >> well, that wouldn't be so bad, lester. anyway, lester holt, thank you very much. i'm now joined by former u.s. ambassador to south africa donald gibbs and nbc contributor shar lain hunter-gault, who's been covering african politics since 1997. i want to start with you. tell me your take-away from the memorial service today, specifically president obama's remarks. what d did you make of them?
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>> i thought it was his best speech since the race speech he gave during his campaign, and i think he spoke as a president of the united states but also as the son of africa because there were many other speaker who is spoke, and i wasn't there with lester, but brian and i were listening, and up until the time he spoke there was still a lot of singing and dancing and very few applause. any time president obama said something quoting president man dell lashgs there was big applause. i also thought it was a lilt bit autobiographical. for example, he said he was practical, speaking of mandela, testing his release against the hard surface of circumstance in history. so, you know, i think that it was very well received by just about everybody there. >> ambassador gibbs, i thought it was clear to me the president knew he'd be sharing a stage with raul castro, with
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zimbabwe's mugabe, she said he was speaking as president of the united states, particularly in that speech. >> yeah. the whole speech, as charlene said, i thought his best speech since the race speech. a very hard speech for him to give because he was so tied to it but was also speaking to a global audience. i thought he did an amazing job of making his points, calling on both world leaders and individuals to live up to mandela's legacy. >> we can't help but notice that president zuma was not warmly received. i know you've been talking about how, frankly, how bad his politics are right now given some domestic issues taking place in south africa with the economy and some other things. >> well, i think that that could have been part of it. i don't know. i wasn't there to see who was actually in the crowd.
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but also president zuma reads most of his speeches and when he's speaking in zulu, he's much more impressive than when he's reading from a text. that may have had something to do with it. i'm not sure. but i'm in soweto outside of former president mandela's house and diplomats and heads of state are arriving at his house to look at what is now a museum. it's a very exciting moment just behind me. >> we expect president obama there as well, right, charlayne? >> i'm not sure. my understanding was they were going to leave immediately after the memorial service. but if he comes, i'll be the first to let you know. >> i bet. ambassador gibbs, i want to go -- south africa postman della. there is going to be a fight for his -- control his legacy and there's been prankly a soap opera with some of his family
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having to do with that. but let's talk about the political leadership here. you're going you have to two parties who are trying to claim the mantel of it. >> more than two. three or four political parties vying. it's one of the gifts mandela left, which is his vibrant democracy. even the booing you talked about on the stage. >> almost an odd way of celebration. shows you the maturity of this democracy. >> exactly. a tradition of funerals being political events during the struggle and it continues here. it's one of the strengths of the country. people ask me about south africa and its future, and i'm a big believer in its phi chur because i believe in the people of south africa and the legacy mandela brought to them. >> when you go to jo-burg, you do feel as though you're in the future and feel it will be one of the great world cities of the 21st century. thank you very much. charlayne hunter-gault, how do
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we say thank you enough for everything you've provided us over these last couple days? look forward to your coverage for the next new days. >> my pleasure. >> all right. turning now to this nasty winter storm that domestically has been anging around for day, it will deliver one more parting shot in the northeast br heading offshore. as you can see, it is snowing? washington, d.c. public schools are closed. kids in philadelphia and baltimore are also having a snow day. bill karins is tracking the storm for us. bill, everybody said this storm was going to be a quick storm. >> that's it. but a powerful one. >> it just depends where you live, right? chuck, arias around downtown d.c., the pavement's just wet. it was too warm, a little bit of a heat eiland effect in the city. same for areas of new york city. don't expect anything in the city. the suburbs is where we've seen the worst of it. at airports which are located in the suburbs, that's where delays are piling up. ground stop unless philly and new york, reporting about fuhr
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to five-hour delays at the airports. those airport delays will be with us probably till about 2:00 or 3:00 in the afternoon when the storm will exit. the white is the snow. snow-covered areas of ohio, pennsylvania, d.c., up in maryland. we've heard total outside of 4 inches around fredericksburg and hagerstown. areas around philadelphia right now, 33 degrees. new york city's at 33. that's why the pavement is wet there. the roads and the burgs are where we see the brunt of it. in the city, zero. but the suburbs getting about 3 inches. quick hitting, done by 2:00 p.m. in most areas. i think done by 5:00 completely even in southern new england, d.c. by noon, new york city, too, bostonwy about 5:00. most people will drive home just five here's the important part, joe. later on tonight, these are the overnight lows so when you get home, whatever slush you have out there, get it out of the way because everything's going to be solid like a rock tomorrow morning. you don't want to be chipping
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things out tomorrow. do it today. >> major ice issues. it's a legit snow here. we press the panic button a lot in washington but it's legit. >> you haven't had snow in three years in d.c. >> that's right. bill karins, thank you, sir. up next, dealing with iran. secretary of state john kerry heads to capitol hill today to try to convince congress to at least hold off on criticizing the deal with iran, at least let the six months go. i'm going to talk to chairman ed royce of the house foreign affairs committee holding the hearing today. but first a look at today's politics planner. as you can see, a lot of stuff in d.c. today, somewhat so. big fed meeting on how the volcker rule is going to work. hi honey, did you get the toaster cozy?
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the obama administration is stepping up its lobbying push on iran today. secretary of state john kerry is will try to persuade capitol hill skeptics on both sides of the aisle to give him more time before passing new sanctions that the white house argues would derail sensitive nuclear negotiations and make it more likely that iran successfully develops a nuclear weapon. last night kerry assured an american jewish audience that the u.s. will hold firm on its red line on iran. >> we will not allow iran to acquire a nuclear weapon, not now, not ever.
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>> aides say a bipartisan group of senators is, quote, inches from finalizing a deal on sanctions legislation. it hopes to attach as an amendment to the defense authorization bill which congress could vote on before it adjourns for the holidays. now, in an interview with "time" magazine iran's foreign minister warned if lawmakers passed any new sanctions, then the entire deal is dead. we do not like to negotiate under duress. if congress adopts sanctions it shows lack of seriousness and lack of a desire to achieve resolution on the part of the united states. of course you could argue the fact they came to the table was dealing in duress on economic sanctions. but we'll leave the aside. advocates argue what menendez and kirk are pushing does not qualify as new sanctions bouz they would be imposed only if iran failed to meet its obligations on the interim deal or the parties fail to hammer out a deal in the next six months. but they are saying they could
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use the sanctions bill as an excuse to abandon talks more immediately. there is a split between the hard-liners and so-called moderates in iran. on saturday, in remarks which were carried lye in israel, the president surprised some by being anything but pollyannish on chances with a long-term agreement with iran. >> we have to not constantly assume that it's not possible for iran, like any country, to change over time. it may not be likely. you know, if you ask me what is the likelihood that we're able to arrive at the end state that i was just describing earlier i wouldn't say that it's more than 50/50. but we have to try. >> the white house may also have a tough job persuading the american public. and a new q poll, 32% approve of
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the nuclear agreement, 43% disapprove. it depends on how you word this question, to be honest. kerry is also trying to make some progress on the israeli palestinian front. on monday he joked about what has been nearly nonstop tram between jerusalem and ramallah. >> i just got back from what i think was my eighth trip to israel since becoming secretary of state, and i leave the day after tomorrow, and i will be having dinner with bibi again on thursday night. so this is a commute, folks. >> putting the "shuttle" in shuttle diplomacy. he said despite widespread skepticism, he continues to believe peace agreement between israel and the flippians is possible. >> i talked to benjamin nettian hue at least two or three times a week. we are handle in hand and mind in mind trying to figure out how to do this in a way that protects the security of israel but establishes the sovereignty
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of dignity with an independent and viable palestinian state. if it was easy, it would have been done a long time ago. it isn't. but i think the effort is worth it. >> joining me now is california congressman ed royce, chairman of the house foreign affairs committee. he'll be running this hearing today. good morning to you, sir. >> hello, chuck. how are you? >> i'm all right. let me ask you this basic question. do you believe this deal is at least better than no deal right now? >> you know, this deal, if you can enforce it, but here's the concern that i think members of congress on both sides of the aisle have, you already have the foreign minister of iran saying that they're going to continue construction on the plutonium plant, the bomb-making factory there, on wednesday, he said they're going to continue it, and then you had this comment that you're going to build more of those, so the head of the inspections team, the director
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of the iaea said, look, they've cheated before. how do we get some leverage on this to make certain they don't cheat again? that's the question. well, you seem to be -- in fact, you at one point i think argued of a good cop, bad cop scenario. you seem to be fine if the administration is negotiating a deal like this. but you think it would strengthen the hand of the administration if you guys passed more sanctions now. is that still your view? >> well, that we hold these sanctions in abeyance. but, remember, we've weakened the sanctions, and that's what got them to the table. so if we pass the types of serious sanctions that could really undermine their economy and give the ayatollah a choice, and we had that sitting there as a hammer, then we could say, look, if you're out of compliance, then this befall you. we know those sangs can work. we saw sanctions work on south africa, right, when congress passed sanctions on south
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africa. it forced their handle on apartheid and on giving up the nuclear weapon, which south africa had at the time. >> it doesn't soubd like you and secretary kerry are that far apart. let me mr. play you something of what he said last night at an american jewish joint distribution committee speech. let me play the remarks and have you react to them. >> if we get to the end of the six months and they don't do the simple things you need to do to prove your program is peaceful, then we will have kept you nighted the pcs -- p5 plus 1. we will show them the way to do what they need to do through dimt si, and we will not have taken any sanction off the table, can ratchet them um when we want. >> it sound like you and secretary kerry aren't that far apart, just an interpretation of the six-month part of the deal.
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>> except for the point that secretary kerry is endorsing the idea of a right to enrich, and that's where the international community was on the other side. you had six security council resolutions that said they didn't have that right and we're already concerned in congress, republicans and democrats, that you have a situation where the foreign minister over there already says he intends to be out of compliance with the plutonium reactor, the separate pathway to a bomb besides enriched uranium. so from that standpoint, you know, congress just watched rouhani gave in speech and there in the audience were the militia and they were yelling "death to america" and he said the centrifuges will never stop spinning. so we do have already a rift between the optimism that kerry sees and from our standpoint the necessity of really having a hammer to come down and force compliance. we think he's unavling sanctions without getting anything verifiable in return.
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that's our concern right now. >> now, there's an administration view that says you kind of had to do this testing phase with rouhani to see if it's going to work, if you're then going to be able to raech et things up more down the road. do you buy into that view? >> well, the problem is if on wednesday, the week after deal, the foreign minister then says we're going to continue construction on the plutonium reactor, that's the time for the secretary of state to come forward and say, now, wait a minute, this just is not justifiable. this is a violation of the agreement and to force compliance. we're beginning to see here instead that the iranians are sort of dictating the terms. well, that may be what the worlds say, but it's not what it means to us. so from our standpoint it looks like the zeal for the deal is sort of undermining the practical implementation on the clarification and on the weapon system actually stoppinging. members of congress that i have
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talked to have said this, listen, if we're going to freeze the sanction, if we're going to ratchet those down, why don't they stop the setry fujs from spinning? centrifuges from spinning? >> i'll at least allow a six-month window -- >> well, i think we need to hear some admission that, well, yes, obviously, the construction of the plutonium reactor, that is out of compliance, it is in the a agreement, yes, our ambition is to shut down their weapons program as the end game and we're going to negotiate hard for that end. i'm not sure we're going to hear that. and i think that's why you see on the senate side senators say, all right, let's look at ratchetting this up and having something to fall back on should the iranians not comply, which they're already out of compliance. >> but any sanction deal, very
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quickly, any sanction deal you guys would pass you would basically make it so the time wouldn't begin until the six-month window ran out? you would give administration that window? >> that's what we're looking at. >> congressman ed royce chairing this committee today. also a meeting in afghanistan. wish we had time for that. an incumbent senator is getting a primary challenge from a sitting member of the house. that's up next in our data bank. we'll tell you why he shouldn't worry too much. fist today's trivia question. a little tease about what we have coming up about the 'burbs. later in the show. fist person to tweet the correct answer gets the shoutout.
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today, a deep dive into suburbia, the land of paper boys and backyard barbecue, also one of the most hotly contested territories in the country. as my next guest says, the new swing states aren't states. they're suburbs in both red and blue states. the 'burbs are the new battle ground for two reasons. one, they've become more demographically mixed, including immigrant, folks from rural areas, and two, they were hit hard by the recession, creating economic hardship that used to exist mainly in inner cities.
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city centers have seen an upward trend in recent year, drawing more people back into urban areas and the suburbs have struggle. today, there are more poor americans living in the suburbs than the inner city. digest that fact. the trends have redrawn the political map. instead of red and blue state, political divisions are more likely to be delineated by population density. in fact, you can see the breaking point clearly when you map obama and romney voters by population. the split split comes right around 850 people per square mile pimt's an area similar to the size of knox county, tennessee, knoxville, or bucks county, pennsylvania, right outside of philadelphia. people in more crowded areas tend to be obama voters. those in less populated areas tended to vote romney. overall, democrats do best in heavily populated areas and heavily populated suburbs even when they are in red states. republicans have an edge in the affluent suburbs. the less densely populated areas
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between the suburbs and more populated areas. tights folks stuck in the middle up for grabs. richard flores says it's been that way for the last decade or so. he writes from 1996 to 2004 the middle class suburbs leaned republican. since then, it's been a tug of war with the democrats coming out on top in 2006 and 2008. the republicans pulling ahead in 2010 and the democrats making a comeback in this area in the 2012 election. so with me now to talk about this i've got dante ginny, director of the american communities project at american university and co-author of our patchwork major leagues nation and richard flores himself, co d co-editor and founder at large of the atlantic. dante, you've been breaking this up for quite some time. we talked about patrick nation and the different things you've done but the basic split in the suburbs, is it moving in one direction or really now is there
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sort soft some stability in this swing vote area? >> i think it depends. you laid it out well in the introduction. there's a split that really exists where the suburbs end and the excerpts begin. if you look at the way we break it down with the american communities project today, we have a type of county called these urban suburbs and they are definitely getting poorer in -- >> urban suburbs. here in washington, d.c., that would be arlington, montgomery county, lake county. >> no. lake actually i think falls into the excerpts but you would see around philadelphia, montgomery county there. so these are plalss that are getting poorer but they're the wealthiest of all the types i look at. they still have -- so what's happened is they've urbanized in a sense, they've gotten poorer, still have a lot of wealth, grown diverse but still have a large white population. democrats have grown their advantage in those plalss. the excerpts, however, that's
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where the fault line is. when you get to the point, you're right. republican vote increases. and the democrats have really held the cities as these urban 'burbs have urbanized, they've grabbed the urban 'burbs and republicans have retreated to rural america. >> that's a look at it nationally, but richard, you found there was an interesting little difference between how these swing suburbs vote, and i talk about the swing suburbs where dante just painted it in between the fault line between the excerpts and the inner suburbs where if it's a red state, then these folks are more likely to lean democratic. if it's a traditionally blue state, these folks are more likely to lean republican. that's what you've got to explane. >> there's this terrific political scientist. we use dante's work all the time in our writing. there's another fellow, jeff sellers at usc who's breaken this down in a series of technical papers and major
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volume. he's really parsed this data. he's said in these kind of you have banizing 'burbs that dante talked about, that's where the battle is, and many the red states in battle elections they're more likely to turn blue and vice versa. but i think going back to that metric, you know, that metric that you pointed out, that density metric, it is amazing when you think of all the complications that you look at, chuck, and others look at in american elections, a simple metric like density, you know, when you trip over 800, you get to 900, 1,000 people a mile, you tip the election. i think that's the thing -- there was a congressman in northern virginia who i think it was tom davis who said economic development works. what he meant was when economic development occurs a suburb, an edge area, a fringe area that dante talks about starts to tip from being red or more republican or conservative to blue. and i think that's what's going on. on the long run that favors the democrats. in the short run, it goes back and forth. in the long run it seems to
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favor the dems. >> dante, this is where, because the tipping point is, what? it brings in a more diverse population? >> exactly. >> that's the number-one thing, and diverse population means they're more sensitive to social issues. >> it's true. i hate using words like correlation. i don't want to dip into all that stuff. but you see what 850 mark, you get the divide between the excerpts and the suburbs, the numbers are the indicator, but the population density per square mile indicates other stuff. when those plalss are more dense by populated they're more diverse lishgs you sa diverse like you say. some of these places look like -- they develop around mass transit sempbts, metro stops, subways and you get population density there. when you get -- one thing i measure is you get a starbucks index, right, you can look at
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that as it marchs into places they change. the big one is whole foods. if a whole foods moves into your neighborhood and you're a republican, you either better buckle down and bring your friends in and try to fight back or leave. >> what's interesting, richard, it also feels as if what we define as the suburbs in say the '70s and '80s, when the suburbs basically democrats won the cities, republicans won the suburbs and that's how elections went back and forth, that the suburbs have essentially moved, right? geographically shifted. is that fair to say? >> yeah. i think when sellers cause this metropolit metropolitanization, it's interesting going back to the silent majority, rich afrd nixon, kevin phillips. david brooks with his patio man and grill and private garage for his car to commute to work, he wanted government off his back. the urbanite and now expanding to these metro polls, these edge
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urban 'burbs that dante has chronicl chronicled, they need public services. they need transit to get to work. they need schools to work. they're depositioner. they need crime to be under control. so they start to tilt to this idea of a bigger more effective government role. they don't want too heavy a hand of the government. dante right, the density numb befr is and indicator but it's that diversity and this demand for a better role of public services while those folks say, the heck with that, get government off my back, i'll go republican and do it myself. >> particularly on local level of governing, where this is particularly acute. >> yeah. >> chris christie is interesting. >> absolutely. >> particularly interesting because he's the one guy, and i'm trying to look at the numbers now, i looked at the numbers from the last election, he's the one guy on the republican side who seems to be able to go in and grab bergen country where i grew up, he dominates in a place like that.
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he's a really interesting guy to mow in that he's the one republican that seems to be able to go in and get these urban 'burbs. >> he may be able to play there, that's true. i do think that's a good point with christie. i think these ex-urban places, it's not they don't need government services, they just don't see it the same way. >> it is. absolutely. anyway, dante, richard florida, i could go on for a couple more segments but i have to hit a break. my take-away is coming up. nearly five years after the government stepped in to rescue the auto industry, the u.s. government is officially out of the car business. we'll assess whether thousand successful this bailout was. first white house soup of the day lemon chicken and brown rice. [ male announcer ] here's a question for you: if every u.s. home replaced one light bulb with a compact fluorescent bulb, the energy saved could light how many homes? 1 million? 2 million? 3 million? the answer is...
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numbers. at one time gm was nicknamed government motors by critics. some people like me said as gm goes, so goes the obama presidency. the government stake in the auto giant totaled 60.8% at the height of the bailout. about 912 million shares. treasury began selling those shares to gm when gm went public. again, post bankruptcy some 2010. now, on monday treasury secretary jack lew said the government has recovered $39 billion of the original $49.5 billion investment. that's a $10 billion loss. twlech 2011 the treasury department sold its investment in chrysler. that total investment was $12.5 billion. taxpayers lost an estimated $1.3 billion after the sale. now, in all, treasury invested over $80 billion in the auto industry. center for automotive research estimates the taxpayer losses totalled about $13.7 billion. treasury officials say the goal was never to turn a profit. they insist the bailout was
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successful because it prevented a worse blow to the economy and potential loss of one million jobs. some estimates say it would have been $50 billion in government benefits and lost income that would have been -- would have happened had the bailout not happened. in a statement released yesterday, president obama took a victory lap of sorts and said that the big three automakers are now strong enough to stand on their own. he said the industry has added more than 372,000 jobs, its strongest growth since the 1990s. the bailout was an example of the federal government and federal intervention actually working. the alternative to not bailing out gm and chrysler would have been more costly. chrysler hasn't fared too well since. it was purchased by fiat in 2011. the question is whether general motors can avoid a similar bond. general motors announced that one of its vice presidents will succeed ceo dan akerson at the beginning of next year to become the first woman ceo in the company's history. a little history there.
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