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maricopa. >> it is a housing unit with a reputation. >> it is a party. >> it can get pretty wild in here. >> it is like a big vsorority help but with a bunch of gay people in jail. >> i'm just scared to death.
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i just want my mom. i feel like i'm a little girl again. >> life inside the maricopa county jail in phoenix, arizona is constantly changing due to a steady influx of nearly 400 inmates per day, unlike prison where all inmates are convicted of a crime, the majority are either accused or awaiting
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sentencing. most of these new arrivals will stay a day or two before leaving on bond or dismissal of charges. others might stay for years. but no matter how long they are here, jail has a way of changing people. dorms at maricopa's women's facility, can be as transform attive as any and one dorm in particular has earned a reputation. >> this particular dorm, g dorm, houses a lot of different inmates. a lot are repeat offendsw offen get into unauthorized relationships. it can get pretty wild. >> one of those repeat offenders is better known by her nickname. >> mcnaughty. everyone knows me by that.
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i tried to get them to change my name take to mcnaughty but they wouldn't. >> kelly mcnaughton is a game player. she runs schemes. >> i have two blonds, when i get real stressed out jackie and courtney, i call them the blonds, i lay between them and hold their hand when i'm stressed out and i tell them about my problems and they sit there and look beautiful. >> she seems to be manipulate weaker inmates into things. she is not small. she has a good size to her stature and that goes a long way. she just has a way of talking inmates into doing things she wants them to do. >> she might be in control of
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her fellow inmaptes in the dorm but not always in control of her temper. >> i was mad because i was put in the hole for nothing. i turned to the wall and beat the -- out of my mind. like blood everywhere. >> how long ago was that. >> like five weeks ago and it is still really bad. >> she also finds other ways to take the edge off jail. the problem is they all violate the rules. >> we have beer hidden and cigarettes. it is a party. everyone else makes the worse, i don't know why. i was taught in 2004 how to make it and still to this day i make the best hooch. >> that is where we keep it because it is warm. >> like a baby. >> oh, my god that's what we
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call them, babies. >> tattoos is my best, i give the best tattoos out of everybody. >> she says inmates pay for the tattoos by given her commissaries. >> my addiction is honey buns which is 560 calories a piece. >> she is known for one tattoo in particular, her name. she gives it to inmates she is involved with. crystal is the most recent to receive the mcknotton brand. >> it was supposed to be mcnaughty, i like it. >> i've been waiting a year to be kelly's girlfriend but she didn't want to go out with me because i was pregnant. now i don't have my baby, i had to work my way to prove my way i was girlfriend material.
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i fix her bed. >> it is just the things she does that sometimes i don't like. like, she is a big flirt. >> in here they call lesbians until released. that happens a lot. women who have addictive personalities they need support. >> she claims she is just helping her dorm mates get ready for the prison environment which is where some will head. >> these girls are not gay and they will have to be when they go to prison. when they go they will come out with girlfriends. so i taught them how to hop on and do weird things, with our stripes on, and stuff like that. we had lesbian sex, 101 . >> she had us all try it out. >> it was good. >> she recently set her sites on
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a new arrival. >> this is my new blond, jessica. really big fake books, nice one. she is kicking heroin, like the other blond. >> jessica arrived two days ago. still high on heroin and barely able to stomach the food. sticks says she won't be suck in. >> kelly is, i guess, a pimp. she has everybody doing everything for her which i will not do. i don't like girls, at all. >> you know what she said to me, she looked at me and goes, i'm not like you. i'm not good. >> were you like, oh, my god. >> no i meant i'm not a hustler. >> is that what you mean.
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>> you said "i'm not like you". >> i meant i'm not a hustler. >> what are the fake books for if you are not hustling. >> i had a good life two years brag i started doing heroin. i have never been a stripper. never got naked for anybody. >> well you got naked for us last night. >> just because they can see me in the shower doesn't mean i got naked for them. >> sticks says she is committed to her boyfriend who was arrested with her. >> it is rare when you find your soul mate. everything just fits. that's what is killing me right now. i don't know how he is doing. i'm not worried about me right now. i'm worried about him. >> he is at one of maricopa's men's facility awaiting trial accused of robbing a food cart vendor but sticks says it was someone else who committed the
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crime. >> i had nothing to do with it. everybody says they are innocent in here, but do you think i will rob some poor mexican dude who works in a cart for $20. the other dude who threatened him with a knife bolted. >> we want normalcy and a house and kids and jobs. normal day to day things. i feel like that can never happen now. that can never happen now. that's gone. and we had so many chances to make it right and we didn't. i really hate myself for that. like, i hate who i am. i love him so much. this whole time i've been preparing myself for if he did go to prison, i could wait three years or five years, i could do
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that. >> but if they are convicted sticks will still have to deal with her own prison sentence. a reality kelly mcnaughty is quick to point out. >> i'm telling her exactly what she is looking at. first time, is it felony two. >> yeah. >> five years. minimum is four. max is ten. you will do five years. >> i'm not doing five years. i'm not doing none of that. >> okay. well, the judge may say. >> i have no priors. >> i thought you were in for driving under suspended. >> so what, what is that. that's not -- >> so -- five years, minimum four, maximum ten, mitigated is three. i'm just being honest with you because people can sugar coat it for you. >> i'm not doing it. no. i'm not. my kids won't even know who i am
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by the time i get out. my kids won't even remember me. >> listen -- >> -- no i don't want to talk about this right now. >> california just let out over 30 thousand people. >> sorry, i'll be right back. >> okay. that's what happens. >> when they are kicking heroin, they don't listen to anyone. >> it is upsetting. i hate bringing this thing out on people because they never want to listen to me. >> i didn't want to listen either. >> but it is the truth. where'd she go. >> coming up. >> it is like a big candy storm. >> the other big player. >> they call me daddy. >> mcknotton manipulates polident kills 99.99% of odor causing bacteria and helps dissolve stains. that's why i recommend polident. [ male announcer ] cleaner, fresher, brighter every day. for all those who sleep too hot or too cool,
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once i started taking the lyrica the pain started subsiding. [ male announcer ] it's known that diabetes damages nerves. lyrica is fda approved to treat diabetic nerve pain. lyrica is not for everyone. it may cause serious allergic reactions or suicidal thoughts or actions. tell your doctor right away if you have these, new or worsening depression, or unusual changes in mood or behavior. or swelling, trouble breathing, rash, hives, blisters, changes in eyesight including blurry vision, muscle pain with fever, tired feeling, or skin sores from diabetes. common side effects are dizziness, sleepiness, weight gain and swelling of hands, legs and feet. don't drink alcohol while taking lyrica. don't drive or use machinery until you know how lyrica affects you. those who have had a drug or alcohol problem may be more likely to misuse lyrica. ask your doctor about lyrica today. it's specific treatment for diabetic nerve pain. >> inside g dorm at the jail in
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phoenix, arizona there is a pull that seems to have an effect on everyone, its name is kelly mcnaughton but a new inmate jessica sticks doesn't seem to be taken by mcnaughton's charms or legal insight. >> minimum four, maximum ten, mitigated is three. >> i'm not doing that. forget that. sorry, i'll be right back. >> that's what happens. >> when they are kicking heroin they don't listen to anyone. >> i'm not suicidal. i have beautiful babies. >> i can't do that. i can't. i'm going crazy right now. i'm trying so hard to hold myself together. i will just walk away.
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i try so hard to calm myself. i don't want to get into a fight or get any new charges or break the wall like dumb girls. you going to hit a wall, really, you're going to hit a brick wall. >> though sticks has not been in jail long, reality is starting to sink in. >> i'm just scared to death. it is like, i sound so stupid, i just want my mom. i feel like i'm a little girl again. all there is to do in here is to think. think about why you are here. what you did wrong. you know what i mean. that's all there is to do. i can't sleep. i'm up all night long all day long. that's the worse feeling in the world being here all by yourself. completely alone. yeah there is 120 other girls but i don't know them. they are just people who are
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here. they are people who are stressing me out worse. >> for the foreseeable future she will be stuck in the g dorm adapting to the drama playing out around her. much of which is centered around mcnaughton. >> kelly has all her new friends so i feel like i've been replace zbld she transferred her affection to one of her so called blonds. >> all these other girls come in and know her for about two or three months and i have been brushed off to the side. >> you can't do that. that's not cool right now. >> to pick you up. >> no kelly. >> you guys are so over sensitive. >> i ain't over sensitive. >> the only other g gorm dorm i
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that could rifle women is melissa molina. >> it's like a big candy store. >> me i go all out. if i'm going to be with you we're going to go all out the first day. >> mcnaughton's respect for molina is evident in her nickname. daddy. >> how's it going to look neither of us are feminine. she is just crazy. i love her. >> they might be g dorm's most dominant females they are after different things. >> mcnaughton manipulates people more with intell jins where inmate molina, who they call daddy, would be more controlling sexually. she physically looks more like a
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male and takes on the male persona and may bring care to another inmate, more sexually, like i will protect you. mcnaughton is doing it in a different way, i'll take care of you but we will be sisters. >> it is about being someone's pitch. someone is cleaning my bed. cleaning my area. it is not about girlfriends, that's gay. >> but for crystal, being mcnaughton's girlfriend was something more significant. >> she tried to dig my name out of her leg. >> i got a staple and scraped it up and down on my skin to try to pull out the ink. it didn't hurt because i was so upset that my whole body went numb and i blocked out the pain. i was upset. it is like a merry go round.
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once one girl breaks up with someone they end up with someone else within two or three minutes. i'm not going to let kelly bring me down. >> coming up. >> i don't like girls at all. >> jessica sticks has a change of heart and she joins the party in g dorm. >> i just have a girl that is just helping me. she is just being there for me c. c. and we've made a big commitment to america. bp supports nearly 250,000 jobs here. through all of our energy operations, we invest more in the u.s. than any other place in the world. in fact, we've invested over $55 billion here in the last five years - making bp america's largest energy investor. our commitment has never been stronger. open to innovation. open to ambition. open to bold ideas. that's why new york has a new plan -- dozens of tax free zones all across the state.
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. >> even for the inmates inside the maricopa county jail appearance matters. >> too bad we couldn't get some high lights. >> a group of professional hair dressers volunteer their time. >> there are three or four of us who come. we are christians. we love jesus. that's why we are doing this. we are in service to our king. >> some would say the first customer serves no one but her self. >> this is an interesting haircut the girls are getting. they are bored.
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>> is it a style you would get. >> no. i'm a girly girl. i think you need all the hair you can get. when you start shaving the hair underneath. >> it will come back. >> -- fuller. >> no it won't that's an old wise tail. . some day we will have to ask god about that. i can't speak for him. he probably has a plan but i'm not sure what it is. >> the ladies love it. they get in my bunk and rub their leg up and down my long leg hair. they say it reminds them of their boyfriend at home. it is a win-win situation. >> having come off a serious heroin bing, stick sz ready to focus on her appearance. >> can you take a lot off it is
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thick and matted. >> it will be great. i will put a good conditioner. >> i'm so nervous. a lot of people screw it up. >> we're on holy ground we don't talk like that. >> we're on holy ground? >> we'that's right. anywhere i stand is holy ground. >> but a make over is not the first thing she experienced during her first five days in g dorm. >> i got a tattoo. jd, for my boyfriend. i told him i will be there as soon as i get out and do whatever i need to do. right now i don't have anybody come visit me. i know my mom won't come and put money on my books, i know she won't write me. my parents never, ever dealt with this in their life. my family is completely normal. they work their as off.
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nobody drinks or does whole fam >> you are adjusting. >> yeah i'm adjusting. i have a girl who is helping me. she is just being there for me. >> yeah she came in here and she was hot, of course, look at her. there's an attraction. i knew she was straight and i knew she had a boyfriend. >> stick's new girlfriend is melissa molina, better known in g dorm as daddy. >> i noticed her right away. i thought she was kind of cute. i never, ever have been attracted to a girl. >> i was going to act on that and i was going to act on that fast. so we were out of the shower. it is shower time. everyone loves taking showers when i'm in there. we go in there and do off the
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wall stuff. we scrub each other's backs and sing. we just have fun, you know. it is like a big sorority house but with a bunch of gay people in jail. none of us have our degrees by the way. so there is no shower for her so i told her to come in with me in my shower and she did. everyone was like kiss her molina and i started kissing her and giving everyone a show. >> it was pretty good. >> what do you mean? >> i mean, it's good. i always said i would never do that but maybe it is something about her i like. >> i'm a good person. it was great for me too. >> after that, she fell in love with me. i didn't even know anything about her. i had to know everything about
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her after that. so then we sat down and ate and talked. i know we should have been doing that first. >> she is prolonging it so she can stay longer with me. >> i have an attorney i'm suppose to call him and tell him i want to stay behind. i'm doing this for her. it is pretty serious. >> when i first met you you talked a lot about your boyfriend. you said you loved him and want to wait for him was that heroin talking. >> no when i get out i'm going to be there for him. >> she recently learned her boyfriend was offered a plea of seven years for his part in the crime. >> i originally thought i was going to be out. i thought he would only do three years. i thought i could do that. seven years, i don't know. i don't know when i will get out. i'm getting grand jury indicted.
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right now i don't know what will happen. as much as i love him i don't know what will happen. >> coming up. >> usually i have tears. >> kelly mcnaughton tries to beat the system. >> you are trying to negotiate.
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>> it's not like jail when you are here, it is more like counselling, you could say. it's love. >> he is serving three months for failure to attend court ordered anger classes works at the mash. >> mash is a great things for inmates. if they take it away they take away a lot. it helps with your soul, i believe. >> these animals are here because their owners are arrested for abusing them and eventually the jail will adopt most of them out to new owners. >> she came in two days ago. she was covered in feces, she never had a badge in her life.
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they had her so long in feces that her hoofs were crumbled. i wanted to break down and crime. >> the mash unit is set up for the inmates to take care of the animals but sometimes the animals take care of the inmates. >> that's a good girl. >> he says caring for the horses helped him cope with the hanger problems that brought him to jail. >> i'm buy pole are and have ptsd. i stopped taking my medication and started losing my temper and doing things i normally don't do and next thing i know i'm getting arrested for domestic violence and criminal damage. now i'm here doing my time. my mom races horses. it is a loving caring thing. she babies her horses like they
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were little babies and i learned to do the same thing. you got to have love and care for them. if you don't, what good is something if you can't show it love. love is a big thing in the world. we all need it. horses are very beautiful. they are strong, fast. yet they are very gentle if you train them right. can't explain it. you got to have a love for them. that's how i came here to mash, just loving horses. mash makes me feel like home, sometimes. it don't make it seem like i'm a prisoner any more. when i go back to the yard it is a different story. when i get here, i feel like home. >> while he has discovered a sense of home, the women residing in maricopa county
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jail, we will go see miss mcnaughton. she is considered a force of nature with a powerful magnetic draw. recently mcnaughton and one of her dorm mates had an argument that nearly escalated to a physical confrontation. detention officers were called in to break it up now she will have to face sergeant martinez to defend her self for the write up. >> to be honest with you i've gotten out of every single write up. >> she likes to manipulate. she always has a story. >> usually i bring on the tears. >> number 25. >> good morning. >> hi, how are you? >> i'm -- not so well. >> what happened? >> i've always told you the truth. >> so what happened?
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>> you want the truth this time. >> no i want you to lie to me so we can start off on a good note then i will work out the truth. then i'll get you in trouble for lying. >> seriously. it wasn't a fight. >> they didn't write you up for fighting. >> i know, loud conversation. this has been stressing me out. well, first of all, it's been however many days long and i've been stressing on this every single day. this is a bull -- write up. she even told me she didn't want to write me up. she told me that she wrote the other girl up way worse, that the other write up is way worse. i don't know. do you have the write up. is it way worse, different? >> that's something i won't
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discuss with you. >> all right. that's what she told me. i will take whatever you want but no days in the hole, please. i did not -- i don't want to cry on camera. >> i think the 20 days of restriction would be sufficient. >> are you serious. >> i'm as serious as a heart attack. >> i'm really, really freaking out and i need to be able to talk to my mother. >> you just said, you could give me as much restriction time as you want but you don't want to go to the hole. >> okay but can we not have it around the 23 rd. >> i'm thinking you are trying to negotiate your restriction and you know i don't negotiate right. >> yeah. >> sign here. you do have the right to appeal my decision. have you 24 hours to do so. make sure to attach the yellow copies. thank you for being honest. >> that one wasn't good. i usually win everything. that is the first time i've lost
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. >> lost is perme ating other parts of g dorm. molina received a sentence of seven years for aggravated dui charge and will be leaving prison. it has put a damper on her relationship with sticks. >> i'm trying to distance myself because i'm leaving and she has a boyfriend. so we're trying to figure out where is it going. where is it leading. >> she pushes me away every day. >> yeah. >> she's like, i love you, and then i don't know if i can be with you. it is very confusing. don't blame it on the leaving thing. if you can't wait a little bit don't blame it on that. >> that and i just care for her. i care for her as a person, as a friend. i just want what is right for her. maybe this isn't what she
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really, really wants or needs, even though she tells me it is what she likes and wants, but i want her to see for her self if it is what she wants. >> the only way to do that is if you are dating somebody. not when you are not dating someone. >> yeah. >> so stop breaking up with me. >> she's crazy. >> coming up a major shake up in g dorm sends the ring leader to a new unit. while a second transfer results in betrayal. >> i've been flirting a lot. >> and painful consequences. >> i just snapped. everyone has a breaking point. i got upset i don't use super poligrip for hold because my dentures fit well. before those little pieces would get in between my dentures and my gum and it was uncomfortable. even well-fitting dentures let in food particles. super poligrip is zinc free. with just a few dabs, it's clinically proven to seal out more food particles
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>> for the female inmates inside maricopa county jail's g dorm change is measured in a variety of ways, new hair styles, different make up, new tattoos and new girlfriends now the dorm itself is experiencing a major change, a magnetic personality is leaving. >> we recently rolled up inmate mcnaughton, up to brafo tower. >> she has been moved from the dorm where's she could roam freely to a small pod of cells where the inmates can only see each other in a cramped day room. >> i'm in a pod. i can't do this. you know i can't do this. this is too small for me. >> jail officials see a benefit in mcnaughton's move out of the dorm. >> dorms hold 80 to 120 depending on the day.
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if you have mcnaughton running up to 120 inmates causing that strive, that will be a problem. if she is causing issues with 13 or 14, it is easier to deal with. >> but she is determined to shape the pot to her liking. >> it is not quite g dorm. when i first came they were like you're really shy. >> a said we're going to be on lock down by tonight, kelly's here, great. >> but in this unit mcnaughton soon discovers even minor infractions like using a mirror to look down the hall won't be tolerated. >> are you serious, why would you take this away. >> you are using it for purposes unintended for. >> it is not even a real mirror. you can't even see anything. that is a awefully tight ship
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you are running. are you serious you're going to take my anywheror. >> yeah. >> that's crazy. >> okay. >> jessica sticks has also been transferred out of g dorm and away from the first woman with whom she has had an intimate physical relationship molina also known as daddy. >> when they see two people happy they want to ruin it so someone told on us and they moved her out. >> i was finally settle and comfortable. i was upset they moved me away from her. >> sticks wasn't gone long before molina reverted to her old ways. she rekindled a relationship with another inmate who is also about to leave for prison. >> it was so good to see her because she is looking at 25 to life. it is probably the only time i will see her. >> it didn't take long for word of molina's infidelity to get
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back to sticks. doing the one thing she described as stupid weeks early. >> i don't want to break the wall like these dumb as girls, you are going to hit a brick wall, really. >> i tried calming myself down and i couldn't, i finally hit the wall like an idiot. >> i could be helping my family right now financially. i could be being a mom but instead i'm here. i feel helpless and guilty. with everything combined i snapped. >> later she wrote a letter to molina. >> it started off hey hoe. >> i put something like you were my first but you won't be my last but i guess that is something you will have to live with when you see me with another woman knowing that should of could of been you.
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i said a lot of mean things. it wasn't nice. >> she was pretty missed off. i got seven years to do. i'm going to meet different women along the way. i might see a more finer or sexier one, they just keep getting better and younger, it's crazy. >> she's very smooth. she had me fooled. >> fooled enough to get molina's name tattooed on her forearm, not just once but twice. >> i did it without even saying anything to her. one girl messed it up so bad i stopped. she was like, i will redo it on the other arm so i let her redo it. >> this is a girl you have known for one month, your first lesbian relationship. what were you thinking? >> you know what, i was thinking that she is such an amazing
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person and that no matter what i still want to have a friendship with her. she will always be special. i won't have this covered up. i'm going to keep it. >> when your boyfriend says who is molina what do you tell him. >> i'm going to tell him she was my good friend in prison and she had my back. maybe i will tell him the truth. if the consequences are he can't forgive me and doesn't want to be with me i have to live with that. >> coming up. >> i'm going to visit with my mommy. >> jessica sticks gets a visit from home. >> you are writing on your arm [ male announcer ] the new new york is open.
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to share with family. [ woman 2 ] to carry on traditions. [ woman 3 ] to come together even when we're apart. [ male announcer ] in stuffing, mashed potatoes, gravy and more, swanson makes holiday dishes delicious. every day we're working to and to keep our commitments. and we've made a big commitment to america. bp supports nearly 250,000 jobs here. through all of our energy operations, we invest more in the u.s. than any other place in the world. in fact, we've invested over $55 billion here in the last five years - making bp america's largest energy investor. our commitment has never been stronger.
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explaining her tattoos for the rest of her life, her short time at maricopa has resulted in a positive mile stone. >> today is one month clean. >> good. >> yeah, so don't worry about me right now. this is the best place for me to be right now.
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i don't want you to worry about me. i want you to just know i'm okay. i'm safe. it sucks, yeah, it sucks, but -- it is my fault. drugs got me here. it is my fault. i did this. i'm so sorry that i hurt you and i'm so sorry you have to do this. i'm sorry. but i just think you should feel more comfortable knowing i'm in here and safe rather than not knowing what i'm doing, and knowing this will change me for the rest of my life. this five or six months whatever time i get is better than me still doing what i was doing. now i can be a mom. i can be a mom to my kids and be a good daughter and do the things i want to do. i can go to school. you know what i mean. okay. we got to go.
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