good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show" live from new york. let's get to work. the fight to help the unemployed in america is heating up. >> today the senate cleared a major procedural hurdle. >> how is that going to effect the house? with this toxic attitude. >> it does provide some disincentive to work. >> i challenge any lawmaker to live without an income. >> not everybody can control their unemployment situation. >> they're not lazy. they're not lacking in motivation. >> some disincentive to work. >> what we have is special circumstances in this country right now. >> in special circumstances, we need to do special thing as a government. >> congress should make things right. we have to get this across the finish line without obstruction or delay. good to have you with us tonight.

thanks for watching "the ed show" here on msnbc. we've got six republicans, six good quality americans, who have decided to actually associate with democrats. now for every story, for every vote, for every action, reaction, there's always the next story in politics. these six senators voted procedurally with the democrats today when it comes to unemployment benefits, the extension of it. is this the only thing that they can vote with the democrats on? i think that this is possibly an opportunity for the democrats to go out and say, you voted with us on unemployment extensions. why can't you do the deal with us on a job's package? how about in ohio? mr. portman, you mean to tell me there would be some political downfall if you were to vote for

a job's package or an infrastructure package in the state of ohio? come on. all i'm trying to tell you, folks, is i think there's a heck of a lot more where they came from today. we start with good news this evening. 1.3 million americans who lost their unemployment on december 8th, they're breathing just a little bit better tonight. it was extended for three months. come on, can you give them 90 days? the final vote is expected later this week. six republicans, i guess we could be snarly about it and say, they jumped ship. let's get positive on this. you mean to tell me there's nothing else out there senators that you can work with the democrats at all when it comes to jobs in the economy?

they voted with democrats. can you believe that? i wonder if they're getting thrown of the kentucky fraternity for that. each of these senators happen to be from a state where the other senator is a democrat. these senators, they don't want any heat on the home front. that's what it boils down to. here's what minority leader mitch mcconnell said before today's vote. >> remember, these are the same folks who gave us the stimulus, who gave us tax increases, who gave us obamacare, all of it was done in the name of helping the little guy, in the name of greater equality. what's it given us? it's given us this mess. and now another call, one more

call, for a government fix. >> hold on a second, folks. this is the same group that gave us the stimulus, which of course helped create 8 million jobs and pulled us out of the crapper starting in february of 2009. let's get the record straight. tax increases, excuse me. the bush tax cuts expired after the democrats went along with them for another two years. obamacare, that's a bad thing? that's an old story, republicans. house speaker john boehner couldn't agree more with mcconnell. he's been for a long time a vocal opponent of extending without offsets. they love offsets. how are you going to pay for it? boehner released a statement saying, without cuts and job incentives, the house, they're not going to be looking at this extension anytime soon. the house is going to remain

focused on growing the economy and giving america's unemployed the independence that only comes from finding a good job. i'll tell you what. there's a guy that speaks out of both sides of his mouth. in fact, in their big memo that they had come out last friday, there was nothing in there about job creation. it looks like speak eer boehner has been attending the rand paul school of backward thinking in economics. it's hard to find a job if you don't have enough money to get to the next interview. president obama met with a group of unemployed americans today to tell the story from the white house. >> unemployment insurance has been a vital economic lifeline. for a lot of people, it's the only source of income they've got to support their families while they look for a new job. these aren't folks who are just

sitting back, waiting for things to happen. they're out there actively looking for work. if we don't provide unemployment insurance, it makes it harder for them to find a job. >> president obama stressed the importance of this extension on our economic recovery. >> independent economists have shown extending unemployment insurance helps the economy and creates new jobs. when folks like katherine have a little more to spend, to turn up the heat in her house, or buy a few extra groceries, that means more spending for local businesses in her community. >> in the past extending unemployment benefits has been a bipartisan issue. >> in the path, both parties have put partisanship and ideology aside.

it's been done regardless of whether democrats or republicans were in the white house or controlled congress. and by the way, it's been done multiple times when the unemployment rate was significantly lower than it was today. >> the president called out senator rand paul of kentucky. he slammed his bogus talking point that unemployment extension would make it harder to find a job. >> i've heard the argument that says extending unemployment insurance will hurt the unemployed because it saps their motivation to get a job. i really want to go at this for a second. [ applause ] that really sells the american people short. i meet a lot of people as president of the united states. i can't name a time where i met

an american who would rather have an unemployment check than the pride of having a job. the long-term unemployed are not lazy. they're not lacking in motivation. they're coping with the aftermath of the worst economic crisis in generations. >> yes, they are. there is no reason why boehner shouldn't bring this up for a vote. the ball is in his court. we've said it for the last month it was going to come down to one guy and the democrats need to pressure him hard for a clean vote. i want to go back to this rand paul comment that the president has addressed, which i think is a vital point. the senator from kentucky has said within the last week that there are studies, meaning

plural, meaning more than one, not a singular, but a plural, that there are studies out there that says long-term unemployment extension benefit social security a disincentive for people to go out and get a job. senator paul, no one else seems to be asking you about these studies, but i'd like to you. where? where are these plural studies that says we just got a bunch of lazy couch potatoes in this country that all they want is the check? they'd rather sit at home and watch espn or something. then there's these six republicans i want to go back to. maybe these six republicans can asked rand paul about these studies he's talking about? they didn't get the studies that rand paul is talking about. that's because rand paul again

is plagiarizing. there's no study that shows the human spirit is diminished. there's no research out there that shows that. in just a moment, we're going to talk with an american who has been impacted by her unemployment expiring. she spoke with the white house at today's event. >> unemployment benefits have been absolutely essential to cover my bare necessities. i have cut expenses everywhere possible and i'm not sitting at home enjoying the good life. my cuts include heating my house to 58 degrees, wearing a hat to stay warm, because oil is expensive.

>> get your cell phones out. tonight's question -- do you think an unemployment benefit will pass in the house? do you think an unemployment extension will pass in the house? text a for yes. b for no. we'll bring you the results later on the show. joining me now is katherine hackett, who met with president obama today. thank you for coming on "the ed show" tonight. >> it's my pleasure. >> katherine, what did you talk to the president about? what did you tell him? >> in my letter or do you mean today? >> today. >> today, i thanked him for reading my letter because i really didn't think that letters to the president were looked at, but here i am today.

it's been quite an experience. i see that he's quite the advocate for those of us who are looking for jobs and i think he totally understands that this is a great necessity to keep people like me going while we are looking for a job, which i do daily. >> katherine, what do you think has been your biggest stumbling block getting back into the economy? >> for me, it's the jobs that i'm able to do. there's quite a few stumbling blocks. i'm a nursing home administrator. there's only 241 nursing homes in the state of connecticut. i'm hoping new jobs are made available through the affordable care act that i may qualify for. >> what happens if you don't get the extension? how does that affect you looking for a job? >> gas for your car costs money. you need to have a cell phone so

people can call you and offer you an interview. you still need to eat and put heat in your oil tank. that has to come from somewhere. >> i have to ask you, senator rand paul says unemployment makes people not want to work. what's your response to that? he says this is a disincentive. >> that's as far from the truth as possible. i haven't spoken to anybody. when you ask them what they do, i sit at home and collect an unemployment check. people want to talk about what they do in the world, that they have gifts and talents and they want to use them. >> katherine hackett, i appreciate you being on "the ed show" tonight. senator, good to have you with us tonight.

>> it is good to be with you. i want to thank katherine. i was there at the white house with the president and katherine. she was terrific today. >> are these the type of stories the democrats have to tell the country? >> absolutely. in michigan, i hear these stories every day from people and we still have three people looking for every one job available. and so, we agree that we need to create jobs. we'd love it from the republicans would work with us to create jobs. in the meantime, today in lancing, michigan, it's 33 degrees below zero wind chill. i want to make sure folks can pay for the heat and keep the lights and pay for the rent. >> this weather no doubt is helping the country focus on people who are on hard times in this economy right now. i mean, the lady that we were just interviewing, she wears a coat in her home so she can turn down the thermostat. this is what americans are doing. what do you say to these six

senator republicans that voted with the democrats today? isn't there anything else they could vote with the democrats on when it comes to an infrastructure package or a job's package? doesn't it strike you this is the issue that they're going to side with the democrats on? >> we're going to have bills that deal with manufacturing, building on, making things in america. we'd love to have their votes on that. we welcome it. rebuilding america with infrastructure, job training, education. there's a whole range of things. >> so do you think that there would be political downfall for any one of these six senators if they were to step up and say we need to invest in infrastructure and do a job's package with the president?

do you think they would lose their seat in the senate if they were going to go along with this? >> i think the people in their states would say thank you. they're sick and tired of this. they're watching as things are going well in the stock market, but an awful lot of people not yet feeling the recovery. we need to be focused on them. creating opportunity for everybody to have a fair shot. >> senator, how do you get john boehner to bring it to the floor on the house side? i think we need the american people speaking up. we started a drum beat with your help. that's what got us to this vote today. we need those six members to stick with us. we need one more procedural vote before we get this done. then it goes to the house. we need people across the country to speak up and tell their story. we all have friends and neighbors and people we know through our church who are looking for work. they want to work.

>> you're confident that this will pass in the senate? >> i'm hopeful. i'm not sure i would say i'm confident. we have to get those six members to vote with us one more time. >> all right. great to have you with us. thanks so much. remember to answer tonight's question. share your thoughts with us on twitter. tweet out tonight. do you think that those six republicans could maybe find something else to work with the democrats on, not only this? coming up, the outlook on postal workers braving what they're calling the polar vortex. i've been living in cold weather for 30 years, and i've never heard thof this vortex. stay with us. ♪ this magic moment it is the story of where every great idea begins. and of those who believed they had the power to do more.

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this is where you can find us. you want to be a part of the action facebook.com/edshow. radio website, we've got ed.com. you're deciding. we're reporting. here are today's top trenders voted on by you. >> the number three trender, hair-raising. >> what happened? >> i haven't shaved in two weeks. >> my wife says she likes it, so there. >> jay carney's new look at the press corps buzzing. >> is that a new look or something? >> did he give an explanation as to why he grew the beard on his vacation? the number two trender,

whiwild card. >> "house of cards season 2" is coming february 14. >> a conservative writer condemns the president's netflix addiction. >> i don't know whether to be proud or terrified. and today's top trender, epic fail. >> old man winter is strengthening his grip on the country. >> the mail still gets delivered. >> i don't really get that cold. >> wear something over your ears. not very many people can handle doing this.

private companies like jet blue are cancelling services. what does that say about the postal workers and the job they've done in these days? >> thank you, ed. it's good to be here. the postal service is out in the elements every day in every neighborhood six days a week.

what they're trying to do here -- it undermines the ability of the postal service to meet the demands of modern shipping and communication. demands that would be met by private firms that would be there for profit rather than for service. we don't believe the budget should be balanced on the back of military veterans, but the remedy is not the elimination of 80,000 some jobs that offer a great opportunity to employ veterans. >> is this what the elimination of saturday delivery would do? it would effect 80,000 veterans, you think? >> 80,000 jobs. we are the second largest employer of veterans. second only to the defense department. >> can we come to the conclusion that there would be a lot of veterans effected by this? >> absolutely. >> saturday delivery, what would it do to your bottom line?

if you take away the prefunding, does the postal service make sense financially and does saturday delivery contribute to that? >> the postal service is making an operational profit. there's evidence that eliminating saturday delivery would cost money. any legislation that doesn't address the prefunding mandate is going to do nothing but attack workers and the service that has been provided to the american people. >> the postal workers in this country in these conditions need a pat on the back. the private sector could make a bunch of money, but there's to guarantee that there's going to be service every day. your folks have delivered the mail, for lack of a better term,

correct? >> correct. we use no tax dollars. we're the richest broke company you'll ever hear about. we have surpluses in both pension accounts. we have an amazing delivery network. universal delivery network that is ripe for america's e-commerce market that's growing every day. and these packages and letters are delivered by the most trusted federal employees in the united states. >> oftentimes, we see citizens in this country go up to veterans and say, i want to thank you for what you do. i've seen people give up their seats in first class. it might be good right now if you were to say to your postal worker, thanks for everything you do. i know it's kind of chilly out.

coming up, boeing has decided to stay in washington state, but conservatives are still pushing for the corporate tax cuts. still ahead, the obama administration is heading down the wrong track towards the -- this fast track needs to be stopped. it's a fraud. you only see it and hear it here on "the ed show." stay with us. [ bottle ] okay, listen up!

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can't do it because of the pressure from all these special interest groups that will end up targets them. at the end of the day, you see these congressional members on the right, they want to keep their job. the next question is -- cool hat. where did you get it? you look like a character in fargo? actually, i auditioned for "fargo," but they liked the other guy with red hair. i was kind of fooling around with the phone on the corner on my way to work today here in new york and it was cold. wow! i put that out on my twitter account. people are calling me a communist. you kidding me? i got that hat in ducksford, england where they used to fly the b-17s out. that was in the gift shop, an american gift shop, in england. it's a good hat.

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welcome back to "the ed s w show." the latest economist to troll these waters is -- in order to create jobs, workers should lobby to eliminate the corporate income tax. businesses will go wherever its cheaper. the professor points to the recent showdown between a machinist union and the boeing corporation. they threatened to move operations and build its new liner aircraft jet to where it is cheaper to produce. 22 states came after boeing.

boeing and the workers came to the agreement to a contract to keep the assembly of these jets in the northwestern portion of the united states. he isn't dealing with the facts. a report released last month by the center for effective government concluded there's no relationship on corporations and job growth. they don't seek out lower tax rates to hire people. they do it to boost profits. these aren't being shared with american workers. the professor would make up for the lost revenue by passing the burden on to the american worker and the shareholders. he wants to replace the loss of income tax rates. the same old republican argument is here again in this piece of

work. large profitable corporations should pay no taxes while average americans should shoulder the burden of the income tax? another suggestion is to make shareholders pay income taxes on their company's profits as they accrue. this is a trap, an economic trap as i see it. the shareholders would vote for the next guy coming down the political pike who is proposing, i'll slash your shareholder tax rates if you vote for me. then what happens to the treasury. joining me is eugene robinson and e.j. dion. gentlemen, great to have you with us tonight. eugene, you first. take us through a world where corporations don't pay any tax at all. can we trust them that they would reinvest in workers and

america would have 4% unemployment? >> you can argue that we're almost there already because so many corporations are not paying significant taxes. but actually that's not a world i want to go to. and corporations should pay taxes for obvious reasons. they wouldn't be successful without the infrastructure and without the educated workers and without all these other things that the state helps to provide and so they ought to pay for that. they ought to pay to support that. and i think the argument that you could somehow tax shareholders, i don't know who you that would work, but i assume the books would be fiddled. >> that's a very interesting point. if you invest in one of these corporations that's out there making a dollar, doing well, taxes on those shares are going

to be going up. there's no support out there whatsoever, research, that says this would trickle down to the point where we would lower our unemployment. all of this goodwill would end up in the back pockets of all of the workers in this country. what would a world where these shareholders foot the bill would look like? >> i think it would be a mess. the corporate tax in 2012 provided $242 billion to the federal treasury. that's 10%. that's down from 30%. so the corporations used to pay a lot more to support the government, but you would be shifting those taxes on individuals. if you just get rid of the corporate tax, what you're going to do is have a lot of wealthy people creating shell

corporations and trying to funnel as much money through those. there would be a huge incentive. so it would end up cutting taxes on them. there's this notion that the corporate taxes born by the workers -- there's a treasure department study that shows 82% of it is borne by the owners of capital. i don't think we want to go down that road. >> it takes money to buy whiskey. that's why there's not a bar on every corner in america. so the shareholders would end up voting for someone saying, i think your shareholder tax, they're taking your money. you vote for me. then what happens to the treasury? i think corporate tax rates -- i'm not sure they need to be increased. i think if everybody were to

contribute, over 25% of them were to pay something to the treasury, we might have a different treasury. >> we would have a different treasury. i think you could make a good argument that you could even reduce them a bit if you could close some of the loopholes and end some of the corporate welfare and make sure corporations did pay a certain level of tax. you'd probably get that $242 billion and the rate would look better and maybe there would be an incentive for some companies to stick around or even to grow that don't have that incentive now. i just don't see any sense in the argument that getting rid of the corporate tax rate would somehow be good for the country. >> all right, gentlemen. i want your take on unemployment benefits. today, i think was a pretty

interesting vote in the senate. e.j. what does this mean that six republicans said, we better do something? >> i think it is showing the conversation is changing in a good direction. you already see republicans saying, we've got to start talking about inequality and poverty. we may take issue with whether they're putting serious things on the table, but the conversation is moving away from cutting government and low taxes to saying, wait a minute, we really have to do something for people who are hurting. i think these six republican senators looked at the economy in the country and said, we don't want to be on the wrong side of this. so i think this is a very good sign, even though we have a ways to go before this actually passes both houses. >> just how ruthless is john boehner? >> how ruthless? >> it's what it comes down to. many lawmakers tell me if they bring it to the floor, it'll

pass. >> republicans have voted in the past along with democrats to extend unemployment benefits in bad economic times. the real question about john boehner is will he go with his establishment instincts or will he placate the tea party? the republican party does not want to spend the whole year on the wrong side of this fight. can boehner pull it off? c >> i know both of you have long underwear on, but we won't go there. >> how do you know that? >> i think you're still cold. coming up, a gop senate

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welcome back to "the ed show." this is the story for the folks who take a shower after work. in this era where bipartisanship on capitol hill seems almost dead, it's almost unthinkable to imagine support for fast track authority. well, we're seeing it right now. nothing gets through congress quickly except for some reason a trade deal which is terrible for american workers is being considered for fast track authority. the obama administration is considering legislation to allow transpacific partnership with the tpp to speed through capitol hill with little debate and no amendments. actually, no debate. this is the wrong time for the united states to be entering

into an international trade agreement, and it isn't hard to prove why. new year's day was the 20th anniversary of the north american free trade agreement, or nafta. americans have lost nearly 700,000 jobs since the deal between the united states, mexico, and canada was ratified using fast track authority on trade. now jobs have been shipped across borders and the middle class is deteriorating in this country. and i think it's interesting to point out as alan grayson did on my radio show today, half the workforce in america makes $11 or less. in texas, workers and union affiliates from 2500 countries filed petitions with the united states department of labor for train organize temporary assistance due to job loss because of nafta. this help doesn't come close to matching the good paying jobs which left the country. fast track of the tpp will mirror, i guarantee you will mirror the problems nafta brought to this country. it will not only hurt workers,

but their families. but it will also hurt american consumers with watered down safety provisions for food and other products. it could also drive up prescription drug prices which would counter what is happening with obamacare right now. it could hurt the environment and reduce internet freedom. america needs to be paying attention to the tpp. now, there is 175 lawmakers that have signed on to a letter to shift it over to the white house to say wake up, hello, this is not good for workers. stay tuned. james hoffa, general president of the international brotherhood of the teamsters joins me tonight. mr. hoffa, good to have you with us. >> how are you, ed? >> very well, sir. this is the heavy lift i think for 2014 for workers. are there enough lawmakers to realize that fast track is really a bad idea and could rely on what has happened with nafta? what do you think? >> well, all you going to think what happened with nafta. we lost over i think a million jobs. they got nafta.

the workers got shafta. everybody knows that. and now we're reenacting that all over again. what's going on here? how could it be that they're talking about fast track, and no one really knows what is in the agreement. now granted, they're going to say oh, we're negotiating it. but there is a text, there is something that has been out there. why doesn't that put out to the public? why doesn't "the new york times" get it? why don't you have it? why don't we talk about it on this program? and how could anybody agree to fast track unless they've seen the text of the agreement? so that really they're getting the cart before the horse. we're talking to congressmen everywhere, basically, this is the wrong thing to do. let's find out what the agreement is. but this is a pig in a poke, because once they sign on to fast track, then it's an up or down vote, who knows, a year from now. we don't need that right now. we don't need anymore mistakes like nafta. >> okay, president obama has control over the trade negotiators. this one takes us right to the white house, doesn't it? >> yeah, it's their agreement.

and we've said, you know, it's time to have a good agreement. we need agreements to put americans to work, not to send our jobs overseas. you know, i always say you want to see american jobs? go to mexico. they're all right there on the border. they're not -- they didn't disappear, but they went from iowa and michigan and wisconsin, and they disappeared right on down there. that's whirlpool. that's mr. coffee. that's courier air conditioning, that's square d. i could name 100 companies that closed down and moved across the border. we don't want that happening again. what we've got to do to get this agreement back on and stop fast track. let's start talking about the bill. you know, some of these bills want to eliminate buy america. and i guarantee that's in there. can you imagine no, we can't buy american products that we're banned from having that in agreement? that's wrong. can you imagine vietnam filing a lawsuit to change our environmental laws here in the united states? that could be in the agreement. these are the kind of things we've got to talk about and make

sure that don't happen. >> do you think that if there was debate in the halls of congress, that fast track was not given and amendments were put to it, that this would fail, that this would not follow the steps of nafta? >> well, i'm hoping so. we keep saying that. the problem is when this happens, the republicans get on board. and there is enough of the democrats we call business democrats that are allied to say hey, there is nothing wrong with it there are people in this town that think nafta was a good idea. can you believe that? you can't believe the way people talk. they don't understand the loss and the agony it's caused out there of a million jobs disappearing. that's why we have high unemployment. >> mr. hoffa, glad to have you with us today. congratulations on michigan state winning the rose bowl. you had to be smiling at that one. >> that was a wonderful victory. go green. >> thank you, sir. i appreciate it. we're going to stay on the tpp and this fast track. and i think the president has done wonderful things.

but this is something that he needs to explain to the american people. and they're going to point to the trade, and they're going to point to the amount of exports. but the imports, it's not a level playing field. that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. good evening, rev. >> good evening, ed. and thanks to you for tuning in. tonight's lead, fighting for fairness against a heartless and gutless gop. today they announced a plan to extend unemployment benefits to over a million americans. it would be a critical lifeline to families across the country suffering without aid for over one week. and yet, just minutes after it passed, house republicans turned their backs. speaker john boehner raced to put out a statement blocking the bill, demanding spending cuts as an offset. they're making it about politics