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the stock market shrink and job market flat lines. i'm krystal ball. i can predict many things but the economy is not one of them. we are calling on the best source we know. cnbc's money man jim cramer. >> the award season in style last night. the statues have been handed out but we're still waiting for the ensemble cable news category. all that and pryor commitment. richard pryor's widow sets the record straight about her late husband. why she says rumors about this famed american comic are no laughing matter. >> people should not be afraid of the government. government should be afraid of their people. >> v is for vendetta. we're not flashing back to 2005
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golden globes though i can't wait to talk about last night's golden globes. from chris christie and bridge gate and former defense robert gates and the latest on hillary clinton. there's a ton to talk about this monday. we have ari melber for the entire hour. dana, let's start with chris christie. state of the state address is tomorrow. some democratic mayors in the state say they aren't surprised that the christie team ordered bridge lane closures out of retaliation because they felt similar backlash for refusing to support the governator. take a listen. >> in the context that we're in right now, you can always look back and say, okay, it was retribution. i think probably all mayors are reflecting right now and thinking about it. you know, i really hope that that's not the case.
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>> it keeps piling on for christie. big wig split on the support of 2016 presidential hopeful. the department of housing and urban development is auditing the use of sandy aid for a tourism campaign featuring who else? chris christie. i want to focus on the idea of motive. there's a lot of interesting theories floating around this building. let me break out two of them for you. the rachel maddow theory this is about punishing state senate leader around judicial nominees to the state supreme court but the kornacki theory is interesting. the bridge closures were about undermining a real estate development called hudson lights that would have gone down by the gwb and having a free flowing bridge critical to that going down. do you like any of these theories? what do you think? >> every time i drive up to new york from washington, i get
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stuck around exit 9 on the new jersey turnpike. i thought it was just sort of when the lanes were changing from two to three but -- >> what did you do to chris christie to deserve that treatment? >> this is what i'm thinking. technically it predates his time in the governor's mansion. i think he had it in for me even back then. this is the problem for chris christie. anybody who has any sort of a problem with anything, so there's a pylon in front of your house, chris christie is out to get me. a lot of things probably are legitimate because this is the way this guy rolls. he punishes his enemies. he has a long list of things doing that. a lot of them are going to be silly. as we learned today, a lot of them are not necessarily silly. he has a whole new range of problems related to how he spent money after the sandy superstorm. that was the problem with this bridge thing. it's not just about the bridge. now it's like going to fulfill -- this is christie's designated flaw and everybody is
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going to try to fill in that blank with their own experiences. >> i think the point of motive matters a lot in the law whether people were incompetent which might be regrettable but totally allowed or whether people had the motive to punish a new jersey law as you can see up on the screen as a rule against official misconduct which says if a public servant has a goal to injure a person or deprive them of benefits, they have that motive and exercise official duty in an unauthorized way, that's a second-degree felony that can get you five to ten years in jail. i wonder whether we spend so much time trying to be careful about the facts here, which is we don't have evidence that shows chris christie knew about this at this point. his name is in this story a lot. not that evidence. and on the other hand, where does this go if given the public evidence of people i would say clearly basically being derelict
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in duties for revenge, what weather does it go in aides are prosecuted under this law? >> it may come as a shock to you. this is not the first instance where there has gone on in the state of new jersey. so they have a rather long and sorted track record there. so this also fulfills that kind of a stereotype people have of new jersey. so the problem for christie now is the u.s. attorney has the investigation going on out there. we have no idea what he'll come up with and if christie is going to be involved in any way. what we do know is it won't end tomorrow. this thing is very likely to go on for month after month and so regardless of what the ultimate conclusion is for christie, if they find out he's involved in this in some way, he's finished. in the likelier instance they don't find anything, it will freeze him out of the early presidential race here. he's not going to be able to recruit all of the backers he would have before, all of the fundraisers, that sort of thing. he's really frozen out as long
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as this goes on. >> very much feels like a drip by drip situation. dana, keeping in step with the vendetta thing we have going on, let's talk robert gates who seemed to be walking back some of his obama critique. let's take a look. >> i think the book is very even handed. i don't vilify anybody. i make clear that i have a lot of president for both president bush and president obama and just like on afghanistan, i think that what has been lost in the news media is that i actually agreed with virtually every decision president obama made on afghanistan. >> quick explainer there. gates is in a neck brace after falling at his home earlier this month. his story seemed different from parts of his upcoming book like this excerpt as he writes as i sit there i thought the president doesn't trust his commander, can't stand karzai, doesn't believe in his own strategy and doesn't consider the war to be his. for him it's all about getting out. he was skeptical if not outright
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convinced it would fail. now that might be very true but i certainly wouldn't call it evenhanded. >> bob gates has been around this town for a very long time and he knows how things work here. yeah, if you read every page and every word of had his book, you're going to find all kinds of nuance in there. he had to know though that the headlines were going to be the sort of thing he's producing. i think people are right to say why is he doing this now while u.s. troops are in harm's way and this president is in office and he says these issues couldn't wait. i think if he felt that way, i don't understand why he waited until now. why didn't he say so when he was over at the pentagon if he had a beef with the way the president was running things and the way this congress was behaving and even more scathing about congress. i think -- look, it's done its purpose. his book is number one in preorders on amazon. but i think he's done -- he's not necessarily done himself any good in terms of his reputation.
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>> i'm sure it's easier to write something harsh than say it to the person's face. human instinct. i want to switch gears quite a bit. i didn't actually watch the golden globes last night. i was on twitter. there is this movie that i haven't seen yet that i'm excited about. i think it's called "hillary's hit list." it sounds pretty interesting. i'm looking forward to that. in all e ex-excerpt coming out talking about how hillary clinton after 2008 compiled this list and had staffers compile a list of people who supported her and people that didn't. they were rated according to who was in the most favored camp and who was in the least favored camp. john kerry and claire mccaskill did not farewell in that analysis by the clinton team. i'm having trouble understanding this. it seems like a relatively
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logical thing to do. is this really out of step with what any politician does? >> well, first of all, when the little writers are asked for their votes on the best cable news ensemble, i want you to know that i am with you guys. i'll be there for you. >> means a lot to us. >> i think the hillary thing is not terribly news worthy in the sense that all politicians have their favorites and they have their enemies. when something looks like an enemy's list and if you rate a seven on this as senators who endorse barack obama did, that has the makings of an enemies list. it shows that hillary clinton plays hard ball politics. i think that if it winds up being clinton versus christie, you'll have a lot of knee capping and backstabbing. >> just to be clear, keeping track of people on a list is a lot different than -- >> than punishing them. >> exactly. >> we see if she has the ability to punish the way christie does and if so, we'll be glad we have
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obamacare. >> does everybody have an enemies list and doing things around vendettas and trying to get people back and settle scores. is that the way we do business now? >> right. it's not a formal system but of course if you are in a powerful place, you are going to want to know who your friends are and who you trust and who you don't trust. everybody has one of these lists in their heads in politics. it's interesting when it gets put on paper or into the laptop. >> i tell you one person who we hear at the cyc"the cycle" trus that's dana. >> big mistake. >> a spin on the golden globes. "the cycle" is rolling on. >> amy poehler nominated for her work on "parks and recreation." >> i believe amy is here tonight. can we get a shot of her? she looks amazing.
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slavery the same way again. and what a year for television. please welcome mr. golden globe, my adult son from a previous relationship, brandy. >> i never win so i can't believe i won. >> and most of all you cannot talk about my daughter. >> i won't lie to you. right now they put up the wrong stuff on the teleprompter. >> i got it wrong. sorry. >> this is a wonderful honor and such a lovely way to say good-bye to the show. ♪ a circle is round >> don't ever do this again. >> quite the night it was. "american hustle" was the big winner taking home three awards including best musical comedy. "12 years a slave" won the globe for best drama and in its final season, "breaking bad" for best television drama and tv drama actor for brian cranston. well deserved there. a lot of interesting moments
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last night. you have to finish "breaking bad." >> until you finish it, i'm on the record -- how many seasons do i have to wait? >> you will love it. >> it's not my thing. it gave me nightmares. i don't like the characters. i'm sure everyone else disagrees. >> i just finished "breaking bad." i was thrilled when he won. i saw the final episode still in the moment so many great moments last night. right out of the guy i thought it was entertaining. ari, you watch it. toure is on top of this stuff. but from the beginning she won for best supporting actress. took us on this long, very strange journey. let's take a look real quick. >> i think it was 47 years ago the hollywood foreign press gave me a promising nomination -- a
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promising newcomer. you have nominated me five times. any way, scottish background to the front. >> so two reactions i have. first it was what is going on right now? this is the strangest speech i have ever seen and other is this is about the most amazing speech i had ever seen because you don't know what will come next. you don't take your eyes off the screen. what i find most entertaining is actually reading it all happen via twit ter and hear what peope had to say. owen said she probably shouldn't have taken mushrooms for the first time tonight and my friend david tweeted i'll have a jackie bisset. we had nick that said dicaprio
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should get an award. i love how they cut speeches short as if we have anything better to do. and i saw ari tweeting up a storm. she does nervous exceptionally well hash tag jennifer lawrence hash tag golden globe. you were all over the place. >> ari did a lot of tweeting last night. you're right, it does undermine some of the credibility for "brooklyn 99" to beat "girls." >> did ari tweet about that? >> he did. >> undermines the legitimacy of all of the awards. >> what is going on? what is going on? >> the thing i took away is that it is a race for the oscars. i'm talking to friends in hollywood, they don't know which way it will go. we'll have a suspenseful oscars
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which we don't always have. i know how excited that makes you. the largest voting block in the academy are the actors. that would lead me to say perhaps "american hustle" would get it and lots of known actors and incredible performances but "12 years a slave" gives hollywood a chance to say we make important films. we make films that can change the world. and hollywood loves to pat itself on the back. "12 years a slave" is that serious gripping and important and great film. the first time that i can remember that the film that i thought was actually the best of the year won the best picture oscar. that usually does not happen. >> basically you say you're a bad predictor. >> no. i'm saying there's a difference between what i think is the best film of the year and what hollywood thinks is the best picture of the year. >> as previously stated, i didn't actually watch them. i thought about it. i was going to. and then baby was asleep. i didn't want to wake him up. whatever. i was on twitter.
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i did see some of ari's tweets which was an important part of the show. for everyone a shared experience. i did hear about this commercial a talked about women and celebrated women of 2014. it's amazing. let's take a look. >> here i stand. i speak for those without voice can be heard. >> where there is discourse may we bring harmony. >> i will dance again and run a marathon next year. >> be bold, be courageous. ♪ say what you want to say and let the words fall out ♪ ♪ honesty i want to see you be free ♪ ♪ say what you want to say and let your words fall out ♪ >> she convinced a gunman to put down his weapon. >> it's going to be all right. i love you. we all go through something in
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life. ♪ i want to see you be brave >> i'm so used to the super bowl style beer and boobs ads. it was wonderful to see that. i have to tell you, ari, the part that got me the most was antoinette tuff. >> and every time i see deb dancing. that's incredible moment. >> extraordinary. the communal aspect of this that obviously social media serves is not only the show but even the ads and everyone is talking about them not unlike the super bowl. some are amazing. we want to show something that's been done before which is sort of send up hollywood glamour and make fun of it.
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he did that which we'll show. take a look. >> hey, everyone is always talking about how good looking you are, james. and they are spot on. you are so handsome you remind me of the man that broke up my parents' marriage. the writers kick a. everyone on my team. >> i just love that because you almost can't tell the difference in the first he was playing the role of a hollywood roast but saying that it's silly the way they are hypercompetitive and last night he said my team and all of the normal hollywoodisms. he was excited for "brooklyn 99" to win. he clearly thinks that there's way too much back patting in hollywood. >> nothing beat the intro to dicaprio. >> i'm sorry that "girls" didn't win. >> i heard a rumor that we're out of fan.
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we asked our fans a serious question about the globes and whether they should have been put into the musical category. one response was, no, that's stupid. they are not musical or comedies but hollywood foreign press divvies it up that way to give out more nominations. up next, allegations that a-rod threatened the life of his supplier and we get "mad money" up in here with jim cramer. driver: this is good. woman: vamanos. driver & passenger: vamanos. woman: gracias. driver & passenger: gracias. passenger: trece horas en el carro sin parar y no traes musica. driver: mira entra y comprame unas papitas. vo: get up to 795 miles per tank in the tdi clean diesel. the volkswagen passat. recipient of the j.d. power appeal award, two years in a row.
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the highway below. no word on why the plane landed eight miles from the correct destination. the pilots at the controls are on paid leave. more than 300,000 west virginia residents are allowed to drink and bathe in the water once again. officials determined the chemical spill that contaminated it has been cleared and customers are urged to flush systems before using it again. officials say the water could have an odor but it is now safe. new york yankee slugger alex rodriguez and his legal team back in a courtroom fighting his one-year suspension for steroid use. he filed suit against mlb after an arbitrator decided to uphold his 162-game suspension meaning he'll be out for the upcoming season. yankee fans are mad. he's ineligible for postseason play. last night on "60 minutes" the founder of the clinic that claims he personally injected a-rod with peds spoke publicly
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for the first time. >> all of them banned? >> yes. he knew that. i knew that. >> was rodriguez injecting himself with these substances? >> alex is scared of needles so at times he would ask me to inject. >> you have injected him? >> yes. >> personally. >> that massive security breach at target looks like it spans far beyond the megachain stores. upscale er neiman marcus will investigate its own data breach. the company reportedly discovered the cyberattack in december from its credit card processor but it is still not disclosing how many shoppers were affected by the hack. officials now believe that neiman marcus and target attacks were part of a larger holiday hacking. target ceo spoke exclusively to cnbc over the weekend. >> what we do know is there was malwear installed on our point
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of sale registers. we removed that malware to provide a safe environment. we're accountable and we're responsible. we'll come out at the end of this a better company and we're going to make significant changes. >> target will offer free credit monitoring to all customers who shopped in its stores around the holidays and not just those affected by the breach. and now to a market alert. stocks continue their sluggish start to the new year. a lot of concern in the financial sector about a lack of movement. weak jobs report on friday didn't help. now many of you may be feeling confused. wall street has been at all-time highs. not easy street for all of us reflected in talked about films in last night's golden globes. >> making a name for ourselves. >> nobody knows if the stock is going to go up, down, sideways or in circles.
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>> we were making more money than we knew what to do with. >> we don't work for you. >> the mentality that led many investors to seek every man for himself approach. our next guest says that's an essential strategy. you should know markets and often forget your broker. he knows a thing or two about investing with 35 years in the business. jim cramer host of the popular "mad money" on cnbc for a better part of a decade and his new book called "get rich carefully." he joins us from cnbc's worldwide headquarters in jersey. how are you doing? >> i was watching that "wolf of wall street." it's about stealing but it's a cautionary tale. there are a lot of people that make mistakes of listening to people like this. if my book can help stop it, i've done some good. >> you say listening to them, one of the things you argue in the book is that people don't actually understand what moves stocks so explain that to us. >> it's supply and demand.
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when i first got hired by goldman sachs, someone asked if i had questions? i said yes. how does a stock go from nine to ten. the guy interviewing me picked up a phone and said by 50,000 stride rite. take it to ten. it was at $9. because of that incredible rushed order it started moving and moving and moving. it's all about why someone buys something very aggressively or sells aggressively and how you can benefit. that's what happened with the flash crash. we went down 1,000 points in a couple minutes so orders overwhelmed the buyers. it's still about supply and demand. >> reading that part of your book, for someone like me who is not a stock expert, it was scary. you talk about washington and politics. you write that our stock market has had four separate run-ins with politics that cost a lot of money. the ratings agency downgrade, the fiscal cliff debacle. failure to avoid the federal sequester and what you call a pointless government shutdown. all told you say that dropped 8%
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of value out of the market. how does an investor deal with that and do you think looking at those four points you mention i would say it's fair to say most of them were caused by congressional republicans. is there any partisanship at play in here in your mind? >> not really. i'm just looking at the percentages and doing some work. i would think if you feel that we're going to get a stalemate over the debt ceiling issue, that's the next one again. then we're going to be down between 5% and 8%. that's what happens every time. i look to ms to figure it out. i can't tell right now whether the debt ceiling is another one of longer head or no holes barred fight again. this decline today will be what i would say is going to end up being a precursor to that. right now we're just going down because retail sales have been horrendous. just horrendous since the last week of december. >> jim, you were on "meet the press" about a week ago. you talked about something you're very passionate about.
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and something i don't think we talk enough about. about caring about our people. you hit democrats in particularly for being pro-trade and idea that countries outside of the u.s. can pollute as much as they want. let's take a quick look at what you said. >> i want to know why democrats didn't say, you know what? we need to defend against countries that take our jobs and pollute all over. what we care about is when workers come to this country from other countries, they get jobs. why don't we care more about our people? >> jim, why are democrats missing the boat here? >> i didn't think my view was so radical. since i said it i've been inundate d with the common sens approach. we have to grow the pie. get all our people jobs. let's not let other countries
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take our jobs away. free trade is a religion. you can't question it. all i'm doing is if you believe in climate, if you really believe in global warming, who is the principle enemy of the climate? it's china. who takes our jobs and then exports stuff to us? it's china. we are willing to shut down our jobs and our companies in our country but we don't care what chinese do. you know what? it's one big globe and one big atmosphere. if you care about global warming, you should fight chinese and not the american companies. >> i think that's a great point. thank you for stating it. one other thing that we've been talking about, jim, is the fact that stock markets are doing well. corporations are doing pretty well. wages are totally stagnant. rose just a tiny bit this past year. is that just what our economy looks like now or is that something that you think will change? >> i think that if worldwide sales pick up with china slowing down and europe is in a difficult position.
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our employment number was trapped on friday. many tried to explain that away. i have done work on this. you can't explain away an unemployment number. we're not creating enough jobs. you can say i blame it on republicans. i don't care. we're not getting enough jobs. because of that we have too many people who work here looking for jobs and not enough jobs but immigration is another thing we're not allowed to challenge. let's bring everybody in from overseas. people were here before. so what. why are these issues not discussed? wait a second. maybe the immigration thing is not that great when we have way, way, way extra supply of workers right now. >> i have argued on this show for open borders changing the global gdp once and for all. let me ask you this about emerging markets. you are really good at telling us what stocks we should get into. what do you think about the marijuana business. there's a lot of stock for companies helping people grow, helping people sell, it seems like an emerging market. i got our director in my ear constantly talking about these
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stocks that are going up and he's got and bullish on this business. what do you think about getting involved in the marijuana business in terms of buying stock? >> i'm waiting for jordan to call me. as soon as wolf of wall street tells me it's good buys, i'll buy every single one. until i get the call from dicaprio, i'm staying away. >> you're not into it? >> no. i think these are stocks that are going up on momentum and craziness and remind me of stocks they sold on long island before he hit it big. >> we'll keep an eye on you and the book. up next, we've been speaking about lbj. 50 years after president johnson declared that famous war on poverty. we have data on where things stand today. stay with us. ♪
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here and now, declares unconditional war on poverty in america. >> that was lbj declaring a war on poverty 50 years ago this very month. it is a fight this country is still battling. for half a century there's been a divided approach to the front line. men versus women. but as our next guest says, in addition to helping women putting gender equity issues at the center of social planning would now be in the interest of most men as well. stephanie is the director of research at the council on contemporary families and her op-ed ran in the sunday "the new york times." you can find the link on our website. thank you so much for joining us. i want to jump right into the content of your op-ed. you point out that the median earnings of men have fallen by 19% since 1968 and a full-time male worker with only a high school diploma down 41%. if men are struggling so much why should we be focused on
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policies that are meant specifically to help women? >> well, because a lot of policies that supposedly helped men were for a labor force that was full time that you could move into a job right away when they graduated from high school or even dropped out of high school. would see real wages rising every year. short spells of unemployment and lifetime progression up the income ladder. in those days it was women who were the temporary jobs and ones low paid. today though men are in the same boat that women used to be. both men and women are a sinking floor rather than a glass ceiling. we need to get together. what's interesting is some of the things that would help women the most would help the most men. the best way to wage equity would be to raise the floor of low-wage jobs. a majority of those low wage
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jobs belong to women but men are falling into them too. if we would raise that floor, it would help everybody. >> this is not about women leaning in. this is about women not having a foundation to stand on. maria shriver is making the rounds this week to inform the public about the realities here. >> i think women are at the center of our country. they are at the center as i said in electing our political leaders, they're in the center of the economy and center of the family and when women do well, men do well and the nation does well. and when women do well, they don't just support other women doing well but we support our sons and our daughters. >> maria will co-anchor tonight with chris hayes. this is a societal problem. >> it is. you know, when they first asked me to contribute to this report, i thought what about the men?
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we are talking about the men. the majority of women -- majority of men have women supporting them. if you are taking account of women's traditional interests in taking care of kids, for example, taking care of elders, and we now find that guys are also doing that, if you can help those supposedly traditional female issues, you are helping today's men's issues as well. >> i think one of the key problems in this whole war on poverty is we have a large class of people in this country who think poor are poor because it's their fault and they bad decisions. when we have a culture of people blaming poor for being poor rather than on systemic inequality it gets harder and harder to actually create policies to help them because people say it's their fault why should we help them? >> i'm stunned by moral monster
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with six-figure salaries who look at people struggling to get by on minimum wage job, two minimum wage incomes don't lift you above the poverty level. living in communities with terrible schools who try to go to college and if they have to drop out are then saddled with no job but more debt. it's just stunning people don't realize those people are the makers, those people are the makers who we depend on and we need to help them rise. >> so true and so well said. thank you so much. >> thank you. up next, getting to know the real richard pryor amid rumors of a hot new bio. his wife joins us next. ♪ ♪ ♪
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>> thank you so much. it's great to be here, toure. i love your show. i love everybody on it. yeah. the diaries are vivid in richard's recollections. his childhood is poignant, colorful, extreme. it jumps off the page when you read it especially in his own handwriting. and obviously this formed richard in his entire life. colorful in his recollection but of course not without a great deal of pain and humor. >> you talk about the way that his childhood formed his whole life. he talked about growing up in a whore house. both his mother and grandmother working in the sex industry. how did that impact the man he would become and his work? >> well, obviously his vision of women, right, that was obviously something that growing up in a whore house formed that. as you read the diaries, you see
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the pain and the unbelievable horrors of some of what he witnessed. at the same time, this incredible humor emerges that that's how he survived. that's how the entire family em. that's how he survived. that's how his entire family survived. they all survived at the poverty level. the violence that went on, the racism that went on, inflicted on them by the community. but there certainly was the dark side of that, and richard grew up with those scars which informed his relationships with women. i married him twice. there was violence between the two of us, which i write about in a book. in my sequel i'm writing about again. we were able in our second marriage to obviously come to a wonderful place of forgiveness, or rather acceptance of that. understanding, everybody did the
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best he could do as he was growing up. we're left with scars sometimes and we bring that to our rips. >> on that note, is there a tension that exists of how you want people to remember him and what his legacy should be? the drugs, the divorces. >> no, i don't want to whitewash anything. in fact, what needs to be revealed is the total man and no hiding of the drugs, no hiding of the violence, no hiding of the sex addiction, of the drug addicti addiction, none of it. the balance is what i want to see. how he turned all that darkness into humor. it was alchemy. it was magical. it was his genius. it was his survival. he could live freely as long as he was on stage. he could talk about race or anything and did. what i want to achieve in this film that i'm producing with forest whittaker is a wonderful balance of the man, the darkness
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and the light too. he was a generous man. he was a good person. sometimes the sensational news about richard and information can overshadow the light stuff and the good. and i hope we achieve that balance, and that's my goal. >> there's so much more i want to talk to you about, but we've got to go. i wish i could talk to you for another hour. thank you so much for being here. best of luck with the film. up next, my ode to a man who changed american politics for better or worse. probably a little worse. this is humira, adalimumab. this is humira working to help relieve my pain. this is humira helping me through the twists and turns. this is humira helping to protect my joints from further damage. doctors have been prescribing humira for over ten years. humira works by targeting and helping to block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to ra symptoms.
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strain in the country right now. for the job i do, it is pretty painful when people in these focus groups burst out in tears because they don't have enough money at the end of the week. whether we're democrats or americans bill, it's -- >> there should be a word for being upset about a situation you caused. that word is orwellian. a key to controlling people is controlling language. you people at american political life wielded the power of emotional language better than a conservative man. his replacement death tax sounds
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like it impacts everyone. he counselled the second bush administration to stop calling it global warming and call it climate change because that sounds more benign. he told republicans to say they're not willing to compromise. he used the emotional potential of language far better than anyone on the democratic side and that battle is fair game. if the framing is paired to replace honest debate, that can send america off the rails. he said, we are now too comb combative and contentious.
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you're no longer able to shape the american conscious. you've been a messaging guy. not a strategy guy, not a policy guy, but just a communications guy. language and framing became as important as policy. what's your alternative? immigration reform is a no-no, but what's your plan for the 11 million undocumenteds already here? he is depressed and he is leaving politics. he sold the majority stake in his company and switched his primary residence from virginia to vegas. he is one of the key players on
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the conservative team left the field like casey in the world he helped build. there ought to be a word for that. now it is time for "now" with alex wagner. how much longer can christie's cone of silence hold together? it is monday, january 13th, and this is "now." >> the storm has not passed. >> the abuse of power, some of this leads right to the governor's office. >> another potential scandal. >> more sup pbpoenas. >> that's a crazy question, ma'am. i had nothing to do with this. >> it is the most entertaining political scandal we've had no with sex angle.
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>> the top two 2016 prospects both now getting an early preview of the scrutiny and spotlight a campaign would bring. >> the acts of sinners and saints would never be forgotten. >> tomorrow afternoon christie will deliver his annual state of the state address. >> the man has put his political career completely at risk. >> sometimes your surrogates don't have a good story to tell because there's not a good story to tell. it is a bridge over increasingly troubled water. this morning, federal officials launched a separate investigation into whether governor christie used hurricane sandy relief
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