if it's sunday, it's "meet the press." . if it's sunday, it's "meet the if it's sunday, it's "meet the press." -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com we do have a report of an active shooter in the mall. >> it was just boom, boom, boom. and people just started screaming and running. >> male and female were shot inside. >> why he would take two lives and then his own. >> we have a lot of work to do, a lot of interviews to do. >> searching for a motive in a deadly mall shooting. police released the gunman's identity as the investigation enters into day and stunned survivors return to the scene. we are there live. good sunday afternoon to you. i'm t.j. holmes. craig melvin is off today. also ahead, industrial espionage. edward snowden is out with fresh

accusations and in a new interview as the u.s. considers the criminal case against him. speech is coming along and the president will continue to refine it over the coming days. you'll have to wait and see what's in the speech. >> the state of the speech. days before the president's addre address, one of the top goals after a year lost to shutdowns, surprises and scandals, we are live at the white house. killing pain with pot. a new push to allow me sis nal marijuana use in the nfl. does the league need to mellow out a little bit? we'll talk live with former bron donate jackson. no more needles. 160 years since the invention, one man developed a needless vaccine. we need to begin at the top of the hour with new details in the deadly mall shooting in maryland. police identified the gunman as

19-year-old darren your marcus aguilar. police said the teen was armed with a shotgun and crude explosive devices. >> we had come across in the store backpack that contained explosives, ieds. these were homemade devices. consisting of flash powder and household items. >> nbc's kristen welker is in columbia with new details. hello. people are wondering why. do we have any word about a possible motive? >> reporter: not at this hour. investigators say they're still trying to determine whether there was any link between the suspected shooter, mr. aguilar, and the victims who worked here

at a store inside the mall. we are learning more, though, t.j. about the investigation. police tell us they found the shooter next to a 12-gauge shotgun and found him with ammunition and as you point out there was also some crude devices in his bag. atervets they believe to build some type of explosive device out of -- some type of explosive device. they were able to render those devices safe. they say that that shotgun was bought legally by the suspected shooter in december. but again, the big question is, why? we're learning a few more details about the shooter at this hour. we know that he was a manager in college park, maryland. but beyond that, investigators have not been able to determine a link between him and his victims. we're also, though, learning

more about the tick tock of events yesterday. police say that the suspect was brought here to the mall in a cab about an hour before the shots were fired. once the shooting gab at about 11:15 they say he fired off 6 to 9 shots. one of those hit a patron who was in a down stairs. remember, the shooting took place in and around a store on the second floor and that person shot on the first floor, that person was treated and released from the hospital and has been interviewed by police. one more point, t.j. folks at the store yesterday left some of their belongings. they came back today to retrieve those belongings. many of them saying they're still shaken up after the incidents of yesterday. t.j.? >> thank you so much. let's turn to the white house. president obama is expected to deliver his state of the union address in two days. whou white house officials say the

message is three words. opportunity, action, optimism. how does the president go about getting that message across? nbc's shana thomas is at the white house. hello to you and getting a trickle of details, always expected in the 24 to 48 hours before the speech. when's the white house saying about the president's address? >> reporter: well, i think the white house as we saw today is everybody is very much so message. should hear him about a plan for security for the middle class, economic equality, some talk of legislative goals, namely immigration, raising the minimum wage. things he talked about in the 2013 state of the union. but also, the words you're going to be looking for is executive action. they are not shy about saying that if the congress doesn't do anything the president will use the power of his pen, the power of the phone, the power of the oval office to do as much as he can around congress. and those will include actions like jobs, retirement security,

education, skills training. >> shawna, also, there will be a lot of attention on the republican responses. that's plural these days. not one, not two but three. >> reporter: definitely. so the first one that everyone's going to talk about is representative cathy mcmorris rodgers of washington state, the highest ranking women in the house of representatives and giving the official response after the spth finished. the reason she is giving it is she's powerful and she is a woman and she was holding her baby and working on the state of the union speech. she won't talk aboutly ly bibi rape. we have two more. senator mike lee, tea party and senator rand paul. shawna thomas with the state of the union update and the responses that will follow, good

to see you as always. thanks so much. as we head toward the president's state of the union address, the white house instagram account is releasing pictures of the behind the scenes prep. jay carney gave insight on the president's process. >> he very much looks forward to it and he himself and the members of the team take the honor and responsibility of crafting a state of the union address and delivering it before congress and the american people very seriously. >> all right. what's really going on in that west wing at the finishing touches made on the speech? i have two guests who know about it firsthand. jeff stressel speech writer for president clinton and michael gershwin for president george w. bush. jeff, the state of the union, is it even must see tv anymore? we know ratings have been going down for it the past several years and last year the

president's state of the union lowest rated ones we have seen in the past 20 years. is it still must see television? >> absolutely. even if we have a sense already of what the speech is going to conta contain, we have a sense of what the look and feel of the events is going to be, because they tend to be pretty similar year to year, it's always important to spend sometime at the beginning of a year listening to the president of the united states, whether you support him or not. outline his priorities for the coming year. this is the one moment really when the congress absent some kind of crisis or dramatic event, when the full congress will assemble and the american people tune in to this degree. even if the numbers sliding over the decades, there's still a lot of people watching and listening to hear what the president's agenda is going to be. >> michael, help us a little bit with the i guess state of the union 101. do you start with no matter what you do, don't do blank? >> no matter what you do don't

be a laundry list and then it always is. that's the advice from everyone. and then the end of the process because there's a lot of cooks and ground to cover, it ends up pretty similar in form every time. this is a speech that gets a lot of attention from the president and his senior staff, from several weeks now leading up to this speech but there's really not much evidence that it has large and lasting effect on public opinion. bill clinton was the master of these speeches as jeff knows and '98 speech did make a difference, but that was a real exception. for the most part, there's not much influence from the speeches. >> so the number that we have here from the quinnipiac poll, 53% now don't believe that the president's government is -- or is running a competent government. what i heard from michael, jeff, a speech like this doesn't turn anything around like that. if there's a rise or a fall,

over the several years, it's only been maybe a 2% increase in approval ratings one way or 2% drop the other way. so, i guess what can you really expect to turn around in a speech? should that be your expectation going in and starting to write a speech is to shift public opinion? >> look. these guys have been around a while, this president has been in office a while and the polling data goes back decades as michael indicated. i don't think anybody in the white house expects that you give this speech and suddenly, magically your approval ratings rebound by 10 or 15 points and sustain that indefinitely. i think there's a sense of realism in the white house of what the speech is, can achieve and can't. there's some function every year laying out the priorities in the clear fashion as possible and many ways the real test of the speech is whether the themes, policies are maintained f. you give the speech and go on with

the business, you might not as gip the speech. beginning or advancing an argument under way, and he continues to pursue the policies and get something done along the lines, well then the speech will have helped in the very small way toward those goals. >> you ever write something you regret, michael? >> i don't remember anything i regret but that's the problem. i don't really remember much about the six state of the union addresses i worked on. i think the president has a political point here he needs to make. he needs to give democrats a message going into the midterm elections. he is facing a tough political moment. the prospect of losing the senate, the effective legislative end of his presidency. he needs to craft a message that democrats can carry into the next few months and hope flynns make absurd mistakes as they often do. >> they have three opportunities to do so, it appears. is there a curse of the republican response? we know the official response by

mcmorris-rodgers and there are two others that are going to be done but if you look back at bobby jindal, mitch daniels, they were stars at one time or the other. you have so many people now mcdon knell anell. . is there a curse? >> it's a dog of a speech. the democrats haven't fared well in that time either. this goes way, way back. the state of the union address, i mean, it elevates anyone that gives it. the president walks in to thunderous applause. announced with great fan fare. ascends to the podium and gives a speech having people cheering in the magnificent house chamber and cut to a little room somewhere with fake books behind someone or a basement and gives a little speech that can't ever stand up to the rhetoric, to the ceremony, to the significance of a state of the union address. it's a dog of an assignment.

>> i'm sorry. i have to leave it there. it's a dog of an assignment. gentlemen, thank you both. enjoy the rest of your sunday. >> thank you. >> thank you. this tuesday, all-day coverage of the state of the union. special coverage starts at 9:00 p.m. eastern time. we have developing news for you out of egypt. tensions are running high as interim egyptian president addressed the embattled nation after violent clashes between forces and protesters marked the third anniversary of the uprising that ousted hosni mubarak. violence left 49 dead, 247 injured yesterday. three people also died in an attack on a military bus in the sinai region today. security officials say that more than 1,000 people were arrested around the country. bombings have also contributed to the escalating violence. only have 11 days now until the olympic games and concerns

over security still high. today u.s. congressman peter king took russia to task over what he calls their lack of cooperation in sharing intelligence information. >> the fact is that it's a dangerous region in russia by the north caucusus andrating or nations. again, i can't emphasize enough, the russians have not been cooperative as far as sharing intelligence. stay with us. coming up, subpoena power. the vote at the new jersey capitol tomorrow to form a new group to investigate the bridge scandal surrounding governor christie. will more officials be forced to testify? plus, this. ♪ >> "50 shades of grey" on the

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tomorrow on the lane closures on the george washington bridge that have been dogging governor chris christie. that's when new jersey lawmakers will officially vote to form a joint legislative panel. until now, both the state assembly and the senate had separate subcommittees and issued their own subpoenas. but this panel will have 12 members and it will have subpoena power. let's bring in new jersey state senator, a democrat. let's be clear here. your opinion, you're not exactly saying that the -- you haven't said that you believe the

governor ordered those lane closures. correct? >> not at all. >> you are not suggesting he did that. >> not at all. evidence points to the fact he circled the wagons finding out it happened. >> a cover-up? >> yes. evidence points to the staff, the people at the port authority, campaign people were deeply ro lly involved in the c, for sure. >> your argument is it's impossible he didn't know. >> he knows everything going on around him. they mirror what he does. they carry out what he wants to be done and in terms of the cover-up and not suggesting it was illegal, but certainly the wrong thing to do. instead of getting the bottom of the fact people were suffering, that lives could have been endangered, they tried to concoct a false story about a traffic study that nobody could believe. >> what do you think then? you said you're not suggesting

anything illegal. is there on the governor's part at least, but is there -- i mean, from what we know now, when's a possible crime that actually took place here? >> there are plenty. by the way, the cover-up could have been obstruction of justice but that's a stretch here. we have a long way to go before we get that but certainly abuse of power, interfering with interstate commerce in order to exacerbate political retribut n retribution, that's a violation of federal law and the u.s. attorney is looking at it. >> there are a couple of investigations going on and the mayor of hoboken talking about another political quid pro quo going on there. can this panel, can this legislative panel investigate that or narrowing the scope and just looking at the bridge -- >> we're looking at abuse of governmental abuse and power and what the mayor said was the worst type of abuse.

if accurate to imagine. imagine relief funds for people damaged by the hurricane sandy used to promote a private development, development represented by the chairman of the port authority? that's a terrible, terrible thing to do if accurate and something we have to get to the bottom of. >> does it change your mind and the ap report that they were on par with a lot of other towns in terms of the money that they received and sandy funds? did that change your mind or opinion given that there was an independent, ap said they got money on spar with other cities? >> they were underwater. people couldn't move there for weeks and we have a mayor who's a choir girl. not involved in politics. she is a straight shooter. she is not partisan. not a democrat. a christie supporter who made contemporaneous notes about the

suggestion to support the project or not getting the money. this is a very, very serious allegation that deserves a serious inquiry. >> last thing, quickly, yes/no kind of a thing, anything rise to the impeachable offense? >> certainly very bad judgment and the sooner that the governor admits he used bad judgment the better for him and all of us to go about governing the state of new jersey. >> all right. state senator, sir, we appreciate you coming in. >> nice to be here. >> still ahead, pot for pain relief. we'll talk to former bronco nate jackson about the role of marijuana in the nfl. you need to hear this one. le ans not all flu products treat all your symptoms. what? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus severe cold and flu speeds relief to these eight symptoms. [ breath of relief ] thanks. [ male announcer ] you're welcome. ready? go.

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roth and amy holmes, anchor of the hot list at the blaze. zachary, we are supposed to be surprise bid this, shocked for somebody to say that the u.s. is engaged in industrial espionage? >> no. i mean, i think that's the exact point. even president obama has said that this debate needed to happen and the fact is i think everybody understands they're not some version of snowden doing what he did we wouldn't be having this debate and obviously there can't be impunity and won't happen but i think he does have some claim to whistle-blower status in that way. >> let's listen to the ag and open at least to the idea of a possibility of a deal. >> the notion of klemmenty, sy, a simple no harm-no foul, i think that would be going too far. but in the resolution of this

matter, with an acceptance of responsibility, you know, we would always, you know, engage in those kinds of conversations. >> is it worth it now to engage in some kind of a deal do get him to shut up? >> perhaps it is. i think this is really complicated and always has been. like zach said, most of the things that he's revealed isn't new information. so i think that we're having a really tough time, you know, dealing with the fact that we knew all along and yet we're supposed to act surprised now and i really have never understood that because i think clearly we need oversight and the way that's been going since 2006, even before that, when they passed the patriot act, it was unconstitutional. the debate is important but this is happening and i'm a little tired of everyone acting surprised that every, you know, detail of new information. >> we're getting confirmation from the guy. a relevant source. he was on the inside. a whistle-blower.

over time, he might be seen as some kind of hero. mabel not yet. if he's seen as a whistle-blower, why not cut him a break? >> i object to the term whistle-blower. he had legitimate avenues to take. hire a lawyer. go to the house or senate intelligence committee. ron white was very interested in getting the information. instead he went to the press, fled to china first and then russia and now revealing information, has been all along, national interest and security details far beyond the initial story he told. his initial story is that he wanted to expose civil rights violations of american citizens. innocent americans like all of us here using our phones and being surveilled by the nsa. now we are very far afield from that original story, even more irresponsibly, he says he doesn't have this documentation in the hands anymore. he's ginn it away to journalists, journalists that don't live here in the united states.

how's he serving the fellow citizens as a patriot asking for germany, for example, to give him, you know, safe passage and trading secrets with them to buy basically the rest of his life? >> sounds like he's hurting his cause more so. you think over time he's making -- >> getting on a plane from hawaii to china to russia was the very first instance hurt the case. if he was really truly a patriot, he would have sat in the front yard and said, take me away. i have these documents. i'm going to expose them and do it the right way. >> let's take a turn and it's a tough turn but this is what people are talking about and shocked by. senator rand paul, you may have seen his wife made comments in an interview talking about the predatory behavior, that's a quote, folks, of president bill clinton when he was in office. rand paul, senator paul asked this morning about that particularly of hillary clinton getting the white house. let's let you listen to this.

>> workplace laws and rules i think are good is that bosses shouldn't prey on young interns in the office and i think really the media seems to have given president clinton a pass on this. he took advantage of a girl that was 20 years old and an intern in his office. there is no excuse for that. >> zachary, this is back? >> yeah. i mean, i got to say i kind of agree with rand paul. i don't say that very often. i mean, i think if we talked about that situation in any other context where you have a powerful man hitting on a 20-year-old intern, i think we know what to call that. and obviously there's some political opportunism in rand paul bringing it up right now and saying i don't hold that against hillary. on the basic substance of it, how can you disagree and should be able to call it out more than we do. >> fair game to -- i guess, to make it an issue?

>> i'm uncomfortable because it's old news and not condoning anything he did in the '90s and used to hit hillary clinton. not an attack on president clinton but hillary and that actually -- the underlying message there is just blatant sexism. why are we talking about what president clinton did in the '90s? only reason is because hillary is running and not her fault. right? why are we even talking about it in this moment? >> well, hillary clinton, in fact, did try to cover up her husband's behavior as sidney blumenthal reported or chris hitchens saying hillary says that this was just a misguided youth getting some mentoring from my husband. so she did participate in that. but in terms of bill clinton, i think we all agree the behavior in the '90s was predatory. we don't know if that's continued on. we don't know. there's a legitimate question to ask. how close is bill clinton to the white house both in terms of policy and behavior? how influential would he be as a former snth. >> i don't think that's the risk.

he is not a president. >> hillary says this is a guy i lean on, i talk to him. campaigns for her. how much does he influence the presidency? >> zachary, you made the point that this needs to be talked about. but it's old news and relevant and part of history, even. again, in the current debate about -- of politics and women and the war on women and the war for women, you're saying it has a place and needs to be in the debate? >> i do think it does. i don't think the most relevant part of that is bill clinton's behavior from 15 years ago. and obviously, this is the early part of the kind of presidential positions and that's where rand paul is coming from on this. i think in general as a society, it would be nice if we were more kind of able to call it out more than we did. >> zachary, amy, zurlina, thank you all. thank you so much. all right. if you folks throughout and maybe some sitting here, afraid of needles? >> definite. >> i'm not. >> if you are afraid of needles

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[ male announcer ] ...at aflac.com. you know, we talk about drugs and professional sports, usually performance enhancers. smoking marijuana before the game is not necessarily considered something to help you perform better. what about after the game? could be a huge help according to at least one former pro player advocating for the use of marijuana as a viable painkiller alternative in the nfl. nate jackson, played six seasons with the denver broncos and author of the book "slow getting up." good to see you, kind sir. let's be clear here. you are not advocating that the league should allow marijuana for recreational use. that's not your thing, is it? >> no. providing perspective on what the guys go through painwise. >> you're in the league for six years. >> right. >> did you use marijuana that

whole time? >> yeah, pretty much. off and on. when i needed it. it wasn't something throughout the season. kind of when my body would break down as the season wears on. weed is not something at least for football to be doing during the day. you have meetings, practices. it's an after the fact thing and the body is breaking down and need to relax. >> how many guys in the league, because we often hear about marijuana use and guys suspended for it. how prevalent is marijuana use recreationally in the league would you say? >> it is hard to tell. maybe half. maybe half. >> how prevalent is the use of marijuana for me sdicinal purposes? >> that's what they're doing. that's what's going on. >> sub consciously? >> yeah. >> you're smoking to get high and then naturally feeling better. when's wrong with a pain medication? you have access to i guess the

best stuff out there in terms of pain relief. >> right. my personal belief is they're bad for you and they're not for everyone. my experience with those painkillers, vicadin and percocet, i didn't like them. they're really easy to get in that environment. that's what the doctors give out. and they're highly addictive. a lot of guys are hooked on that while they're playing and leave the game with a serious addiction. marijuana wasn't like that for me. i can't speak for everyone else. i didn't have physical symptoms with it and found that it alleviated the need for pain pills. i preferred it as a method for getting my mind off of my body. >> young a lot of people sit out there and you have heard it. these guys just want to get high. they just want to get high. >> i don't know. i mean, if getting high relieves pain, then yes, they want to get high. isn't that pain pills in a different way is this they don't cure the injury. they change your mind or make you think about something else or dull those pain sensors.

i think weed has a similar effect. >> do you feel you -- i mean, like you said. you used marijuana in the playing days. it was banaled. do you feel like you cheated the game? >> no. >> i mean, but you were taking something that the league said you can't use that in that league. >> like you said, it is not a performance enhancer. it wasn't something i was doing on the field. it was something thatdy and -- not everybody does it. people do it because they feel they need to or want to to get away from the mental and physical demands of the game. physical pain and mental. there's stress going on. you're at the meetings all day long and under a lot of vestres. i think it is okay to unwind that way. >> roger goodall said he is going to look at this. a medical opinion. what is your opinion in colorado and washington now? guys that play there, guys playing there, the super bowl

teams from the two states and now you can smoke weed recreationally. what do you think? how should the league come down on guys for doing something legally where they live and still illegal for the league? how do you reconcile that? >> it's an interesting dichotomy. we like to hold the athletes to a different standard than ourselves. we are human. they're human beings. they have pain, fear. they have insecurities and if the people of a state have decided to legalize it, i think the nfl should seriously consider -- my personal belief, take it off the banned substance list. stop testing for it. they don't have to make a stink about it or a press release about it. stop busting guys for it and understand, have compassion what they're going through. the product on the field is very, very violent and there's consequences to it. >> we'll leave it there. you stop using it after -- >> oh yeah, of course. >> not using it now? the pain is gone. >> why are you smiling like that? >> why are you smiling like

that? >> takes two to tango! >> nate jackson, you have to get out of here. former bronco. good to see. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> yes. a week away from sunday. broncos/seahawks arrive in new jersey tonight. broadway from times square to herald square being turned into super bowl boulevard with a toboggan run and live music stage. looks like the nfl might get a little help from mother nature. the forecast sunday is calling for temperatures in the upper 30s to near 40s with a few rain or snow showers, but no major storm. that's a big deal. [ sneezes ]

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all right, imagine this. 50 shades of grey, live on stage. the sexually explicit novel that some called mommy porn has sold over 70 million copies worldwide and is being made into a movie now also has an off-broadway show dedicated to it. but it's not exactly what you think. ♪ i used to live my life knowing

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craziness. >> you say fun details. one of the details is this -- i haven't read the book. i want to get on record, okay? i didn't read the book. but christian grey, the main character. a lot of women have a fantasy in their mind of what christian grey should look like. that's probably not what they imagine when they see your -- >> maybe a teeny bit different than what they might be expecting. >> describe him. is it okay if we give that detail? >> it's one of the surprises of the show. >> a huge surprise. >> one of the big surprises of the show. there's plenty of skin in the show enough that it's sort of family friendly. >> sort of? >> if your family's over 18. >> is this -- really, is this a move to capitalize on the popularity of the book, is that what this is essentially? >> a little bit, yeah. it's a show that we all actually love and enjoy and think is legitimately funny. that's the biggest thing with the parody. we didn't want to phone in some parody at the drop of a hat. we wanted to make it fun for everybody, guys that are dragged

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