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four responses last night, and we're still waiting for a specific policy plan. i guess they're lucky they only got five minutes for each response. all righty. that does it for "the cycle" today. day one of president obama's solo act without congress and the party of no can't understand why he won't just work with them. it's wednesday, january 29th, and this is "now." >> the speech. >> you give the state of the union and then you take it on the road. >> tell congress to act. >> five years ago, i signed my first bill into law. i didn't have any gray hair. >> there was no standing up on the right side of the house. >> the president continues to divide the country. >> he wants to find places to divide us. >> the president wants to keep doing the same ole thing without as much input. >> a handful of republicans are
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holding the entire republican caucus hostage. >> the threat made to a reporter on camera. >> i lost my cool. it shouldn't have happened. >> this tough guy schtick does not work. >> what century are you living in? president obama won't stand still, but republicans can't seem to stand together. that seems to be the takeaway from last night's state of the union. today he began a four-city tour to highlight his own efforts to revive the american economy. despite the fact that republicans couldn't seem to find a consistent message in their four responses to the
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speech last night, they've at least unified on one thing. an on waivering belief that president obama is overreaching. they're criticizing obama for refusing to work with them too. while the gop is trying to make the case for an abuse of an executive authority, in the far away galaxy of reality, he has fewer executive orders than the last presidents in 25 years. republican lawmakers lined up to condemn king obama. the socialist dictator who has been feeding us a line. paul ryan remained nonetheless
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on message. >> if you want to write a law, the representatives are the ones who write the laws. presidents don't write laws. >> they have all hopped aboard the tyranny train. this might be the only thing that could bring them together. we saw two key indications of fault lines within the gop and evidence that the far right is losing ground. house republicans are getting ready to surrender on the debt ceiling and the house finally passed a five-year farm bill. it is a development that the "wall street journal" weighed in on. going quietly into the night, we
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have not seen the end of this story. joining me now is heather mcgee and david axelrod. the new narrative, president obama is a tyrant. is it going to be effective? >> it's at war with reality. at times you wonder whether any execution of authority that he use, constitutional, authority is offensive to people who don't like the fact he's the president of the united states. he's been pretty modest in the use of some of the tools that are available to the president. i don't think the american people are going to be real interested in that.
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i think the american people want to see action. they want to see solutions to problems instead of game playing in washington and point scoring in washington. and if the president of the united states can act to move forward to move solutions to help people, then i think they're going to be all for that. >> it's amazing to me and audacious that the party that shut down the government is now accusing the president of being a tyrant. n nonetheless, there is this narrative out there. facts aren't really in the republican corner. obama's team is hoping and guessing that the public won't fear him. worse yet for obama could be the effect of this approach could have on democrats trying to hold on to the senate. because a huge part of last
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night was for the president, but it was also for the democratic party and ensuring in 2014 that the democrats hold on to the upper chamber. >> i don't think there's much to that. think about what the president's signature executive order has been announced. saying that the president is actually the employer and chief. democrats take this opportunity to say we don't want to be the party of poverty jobs. he's say, let's put a floor under the workers who work on behalf of america, whose paychecks i sign with taxpayer money, let's make sure those aren't dead-end terrible jobs. that's something that really promotes efficiency at work. he came to cosco today. it has much more productivity per worker. he's trying to bring that high-road model to the work that's being done on behalf of
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america. >> it may be well within his authority. he may not be a tyrant. that doesn't mean that certain factions within the gop aren't going to run with this. on that note, i want to ask about the warfare between the two sides of the republican party and how meaningful you think these latest legislative developments are. we finally have a farm bill. the republicans may not not take the country to calamity over the debt ceiling. at the end of the day, the final farm bill is closer to what the senate wanted, and that is proof that tea partiers were able to get their way for a while but the key votes belong to mainstream conservatives. do you think that's true? >> i think survival is the first instinct of politicians. if you look at your poll, you see that congress is at an all-time low.
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the republican party is around 23% approval rating. i think that after the debacle of last fall when the tea party marched the gop off the cliff the leadership had had enough and said, we can't be lemming like and follow these guys over the cliff again and again and again. there's been this pushback since then. now you have a bunch of primaries across the country where center right republicans are facing tea party candidates. i think that the leadership understands that if they're going to win in a broader terrain and nationally, they have to get control of their party back. i don't think there's a high-mindedness about it, but i think some of them want to accomplish some things. but there's certainly the survival instinct. the republican party will be
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defunct as a national party until they go ahead their id under control. >> what was your thought when it was announced there would be four responses to the state of the union? can you imagine that happening on the democratic side of the aisle? we need to weight in with our two cents here. it is almost unfathomable. >> we might have several responses if we didn't have a president. when there's no sort of central figure that represents the party there are these factional fights. it was extreme in this case. it was like open mic night for the republican party, but it is a sign they need someone to help define that party in a way that has a compelling message for the
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american people. >> heather, to that point, they officially chose cathy mcmorr mcmorris-rodgers, he seems like a nice lady. hours prior to her remarks, the house passed hr-7. john boehner did not stand up when the president talked about equal pay. when it comes down to brass tacks, the way you get women is by supporting policies that are good for women. >> the congresswoman's story was missing a lot of key facts. it was missing the context. she talked about working your way through college and save on
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a mcdonald's salary. it would take a decade for someone at the $25,000 a year price tag for someone to work their way through college. you can work all year round and still not be able to pay for college. you know why? because government helped fund the college in her lifetime and it doesn't anymore. we have seen 26 cents on the dollar decrease because of tax cuts at the state level. she can say it was so great she was able to work her way through college, but she's missing the reason why her children and our children won't be able to do that. >> she also made note of the fact she had a child with down syndrome. what does the affordable care act do? it helps children stay on their parents' plans. these are all parts of that story as written in the 21st century. >> that's right. >> all right.
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>> that was pure -- the american people were looking for some fiber and they got cotton candy from her. i think it was wasted time on her part. one good thing that came out of this that i think haven't gotten enough attention is however muddled and misguided some of their messages were, everyone is now talking about inequality, mobility, about the middle class. to me, that's a victory in and of itself. we may differ greatly in our e prescriptio prescriptions, but at least everybody is recognizing the problem, which is a step forward. >> you get the sense that the goalpost has moved a little bit further to the left. thank you both for your full-titime. chris christie may have thought this week's super bowl
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would provide a halftime from controversy, but not have ben barl -- if ben barlyn has anything to say. after the state of the union, this happened. we'll talk with new york one reporter and one of our former producer about his run-in with a very mad men, representative michael graham. that's next. ♪ hearts, stars and horseshoes ♪ clovers and blue moons ♪ hourglasses, rainbows ♪ and tasty red balloons let's go! ♪ lucky charms ♪ frosted lucky charms ♪ they're magically delicious we still run into problems. that's why liberty mutual insurance offers accident forgiveness if you qualify, and new car replacement,
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>> that was republican congressman michael grimm apologizing for a violent physical threat to a reporter last night. a reporter tried to ask him about a federal investigation into his campaign finances. this apparently what it looks like when michael grim loses his cool. >> reporter: back to you. joining me now is capitol hill reporter michael scotto who
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worked as a producer for this show one year ago. it is a pleasure to see you in front of the camera. i was so impressed with your backbone of steel. that was child's play compared to what representative grimm was doing. yesterday, he said -- he was very defensive. i took the reporter to task and told him off because i expect a certainly level of professionalism and respect. i doubt i am the first member of congress to tell off a reporter and i'm sure i won't be the last. today he apologized to you and he graciously accepted and you'll be scheduling a lunch soon. >> he called me this morning to apologize for what happened. he said that it was not behavior that he's used to displaying. he said it was uncalled for
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essentially and then he said he wanted to take me to lunch. i think what happened prior to that was the coverage was just terrible. you looked over twitter and you saw all these negative tweets towards his behavior, the coverage from lawmakers who were weighing in on what he did was also terrible. he decided to come out and apologize to us. >> what's interesting is you finish your on air hit and you started backing off camera because it looked like it was almost as if he was lunging at you. he's had anger issues. it's not the first time he's tried to intimidate a reporter. to what degree did you expect this? >> i knew when he walked away when i tried to ask him that question that he was going to come back and express his frustration and annoyance with the fact i asked that question.
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i wasn't expecting him to go after me the way we did mainly because we were in a really public forum. >> we were actually filming from the rotunda yesterday and it was three hard floors down. that would be a long fall. we are very glad that nothing happened. michael, to your original point, the question you were asking representative grimm, if you'll tell us a little bit about the financial wheelings and dealings. the lawyer released a statement he's denying any wrong doing. what is he being accused of doing? >> he's not being accused of anything. there's no accusations against him. for the last couple of years, there's been a federal investigation into campaign contributions given to his campaign. a little more than two weeks ago
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a person connected to grimm, a friend of grimm, a woman, was arrested in houston by the feds for allegedly using straw donors. that's a way for someone to get around those federal contribution limits. we were trying to ask him the questions about this in the city and here and he hadn't been responsive. i saw it as an opportunity. he was there talking to me. i thought it was the perfect opportunity to ask him a question that we wanted to ask him for the last two weeks. >> are you satisfied with his response, the apology and the statement related to the fundraising questions? >> i'm satisfied with the apology. he did call me. it sounded sincere to me. he's under a lot of pressure. i'm going to let the tape speak for itself. i think people can decide what
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they think of the apology and what they think of transpired before all of that. as for the investigation, we don't know what's really going on. the house ethics committee has put its investigation on hold until the fbi investigation concludes. he hasn't been accused of anythi. but it seems in the last few weeks this investigation into people around him has been heating up a bit. >> well, my friend, we hope you get to follow-up with him at your lunch. please keep us posted. >> great seeing you. >> thanks for your time. coming up, while discussing pay inequality, president obama named "madmen." that is coming up.
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international airport. >> and it's a good thing they didn't land at jfk because the two teams would have crossed a bridge or take a tunnel into new jersey. chris christie may be trying to regain his footing before the first super bowl in his state, but even with his eyes toward the future, the garden state governor cannot seem to escape his past. it raises serious questions about whether christie was totally in the dark about the george washington bridge closures in september. according to the "times," mr. christie tended to the smallest of details. he oversaw appointments to the state board of physical therapy examiners. that saga is not the only one unfolding across the hudson.
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yesterday a new jersey appeals court heard arguments from ben barlyn, a veteran prosecutor who was ousted by the administration as retaliation for going after a christie ally. barlyn and a team of fellow prosecutors announced the indict of a local department sheriff named deborah trout. force e e as it turned out, sheriff trout was close to chris christie. she backed his bid in 2010, was old friends with the lieutenant governor. barlyn announced his 43 count indictment against sheriff
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trout. the governor's office dismissed the case. barlyn now teaches at a middle school and is fighting a wrongful termination case against the state. his case is one of the most longstanding cases plaguing the governor's office. as the times reports, mr. christie's aides were confident. they were playing 3d chess while they're playing checkers. the governor would prefer his audience focus on another game entirely. >> in the end, this is about the game. it's not about all the other stuff. it's about the game. >> joining me now is ben barlyn. >> my pleasure, alex. >> i've been sort of stunned at
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the duality of responses prosecute the christie camp relating to your case. on one hand a spokesman said, this is truly some of the most wild eyed conspiracy theories i've heard in a long time. the attorney general is seeking a gag order on you and your lawyer in the event you get the transcripts from the grand jury handed over. what accounts for this? >> a certain schizophrenia. this case really arose at the onset of governor christie's first term. the indictments were dismissed in august of 2010. i was fired the month after they were dismissed. it attracted some degree of news coverage. the govern's spokesman would say it is just a wild-eyed
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conspiracy theory. that was also the line he used in "the new york times" story that you referenced. after the story was published, michael wrote a very lengthy letter of complaint to "the new york times," editor. >> we saw christie in his first press conference when he impugned the reputation of bridget kelly. the character assassination part seems to be a huge piece of the puzzle. >> exactly. it allows you to disparage the messenger, but i also avoids him to directly answer the allegation. he says, barlyn is crazy. the problem with that and
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there's a few problems -- it's not just me. it was not just me who complained. it was two other prosecutors, veteran prosecutors, who all served as i did in the attorney general's office. you now have four grand jurors who all said this was a very strong case. the presentation by the lead prosecution, his name was bill mcgovern, was perfect. we were very thorough in perform ing our duties. the only reason we can think of the case was dismissed early was there was politics involved. >> that's part of what i want to ask you about. these transcripts you're asking for, on one hand the christie team is dismissing them as wild-eyed, a lot of smoke with no fire. on the other hand, they're
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asking for a gag order. do you think there's something that will indict chris christie in these transcripts? >> not exactly. the reason they're so important is when the attorney general swooped into our office and killed the case, they gave the trial judge who was presiding specific reasons why the grand jury presentation was flawed and justified dismissal. if we obtain the transcripts, we can basically corroborate or dispel those allegations. also we can determine the strength of the state's case at the time. it was kind of a throwaway argument. the grand jurors said the evidence was very strong. if the grand jury transcripts corroborate -- >> reflect that -- >> then it begs the question, why did you do it? why did you make these misrepresentations and who
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benefits? >> today david pring l tells the new york times, with chris christie it is impossible to separate policy with politics. the governor makes the note that new jersey has made an art form of high level interference in political cases. you are a former prosecutor. >> that's correct. >> can you talk about the ver r >> when i was a prosecutor, the governor as a matter of policy created the governor's crime plan. that was implemented by his attorney general. there's always a tight
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connection between the two offices. that's unique for new jersey. it begs the question was there a connection that led the attorney general to intercede. >> there are so many questions then. we will follow this piece of the larger saga as it unfolds. thank you for your time. >> thank you. new polling shows libido warrior mike huckabee is the frontrunner in the gop's 2016 field. that is actually a fact. that may be all we need to know about the current state of the republican party. as always, there is more and that is next. ♪ whoa, who-o-o-a ♪ whoa, who-o-o-a ♪ one, two, three, four! ♪ ohh, oh-oh-oh-oh ♪ ohh, oh-oh-oh-ohhh
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this year, let's all come together, congress, the white house, businesses from wall street to main street, to give every woman the opportunity she deserves. i believe when women succeed, america succeeds. >> even john boehner chuckled at that line. the congress passed hr7. the bill would prohibit insurance plans on the nation's health care exchanges for covering abortions. the senate will not take up the bill. even if it did, president obama would ultimately veto it. republicans put congresswoman cathy mcmorris-rodgers in front
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of the camera last night. republicans still find themselves on the other side of the gender divide. 76% of women support raising the minimum wage. 68% of women support extending unemployment insurance for the long-term jobless. women had wanted the jobs bill to pass by a margin of three to one. what's more important, cutting the deficit or keeping social security or medicare benefits in tact? 75% of women chose the latter. the thing about women is they pay attention to the stuff that affects them. you have to support the policies they support. that's not just how women work. that's how politics works.
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coming up, president obama did not spend a lot of time on foreign policy last night, but he did urge the country to shift away from a, quote, public war fo footing. janet yellin will take the helm, being the first woman to head the fed. one of the most powerful financial positions on the planet. the committee decided to cut their bond buying program. that sent stocks into the red today. they cut it by another $10 million. the fed saying the economy is strong enough. the s&p was down 18. the nasdaq lost 46. we'll be right back.
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with afghan forces now in the lead for their own security, our troops have moved to a support role. together with our allies we'll complete our mission there by the end of this year and america's longest war will finally be over. >> in the more than 12 years since the first troops set foot in afghanistan, the battle has receded further in the national consciousness. >> on his tenth deployment, corey was nearly killed by a massive roadside bomb in
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afghanistan. corey is here tonight. like the army he loves, like the america he serves, sergeant first class corey ramsburg never gives up and he does not quit. >> but even as america positions itself to wind down its presence in afghanistan by the end of this year, what happens next is anybody's guess. relations are karzai have deteriorated. karzai believes the united states to be behind insurgent attacks in his country. a u.s. ambassador called the allegations a deeply seeded
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conspiracy. we have not talked nearly enough about afghanistan as a country, as the media on this channel, on this show. you have reported from afghanistan. there it seems relations are as fraught as they have been and yet we have further down the ladder to go. there is now a new fight brewing about the release of 37 prisoners who are regarded as dangerous insurgents. how much worse can things get in terms of our relationship over there? >> let's look at the fact we saw a clip of the president recognizing this army ranger. this young man did ten tours. ten times he's deployed in these war zones and gets seriously wounded this last time. this is a generation that's
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grown up in this permanent state of were. when obama took office, his security advisor said there were less than 100 in afghanistan. what is the war about now? this is a fight about a domestic insurgency. what do we tell the families who are killed now? karzai's government is incredibly corrupt. they play both sides of the fence. the more significant thing about the president's speech last night is he said there's going to be a counterterrorism strike force that's going to remain. we see the obamaization of these wars. karzai sounds like a looney bin when he talks about insurgent style attacks, but the u.s. does night raids.
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sometimes they are based on bad intelligence and innocent people die. >> what did you think when the president said america must move off a permanent war footing? that line didn't get nearly the applause. there seems to be a real divide in the american psyche about war and the cost of war. >> let's remember when the president was inching towards on a military attack in syria, there was great pushback. you had libertarians on the right there were opposed to the wars for their own reasons. the left flank is unifying right now. we're seeing senator obama debating president obama in some of these speeches.
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we should view terrorism as a law enforcement activity and try to bring our approach to it back in line with our values. president obama and the head of the cia, this guy was the architect of the drone program, they have built structures that ensure we remain that way for at least the next presidency. >> the president brought up gitmo. how optimistic are you about it closing before his tenure? >> i'm not optimistic. at the end of the day, there were people being force fed and needed to be released to their country. the president should be been
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more forceful about that. >> i'm going to the oscar's, baby. >> we could get the soup of the day going. the supreme court halts the execution of a missouri death row inmate, but it is the reason for this day that could be a game-changer. we'll look at the shift on the death penalty. that's next. music stops ♪music resumes music stops ♪music resumes [announcer] if your dog can dream it. purina pro plan can help him achieve it. nutrition that performs. some brokerage firms are but way too many aren't. why?
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this has led to a dwindling supply of the stuff our country uses to execute prisoners. not in every state. since 2011 when the american company announced it would stop making the key ingredient in execution drugs, others went to drugs that are untested. the supreme court suggested the secrecy surrounding these drugs was troubling. the quality of compounded drugs varies from batch to batch. the missouri board of pharmacy
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found one out of every five drugs made by compounding pharmacies fails to meet standards. >> what we have are drugs that are not regulated by the fda. these are drugs that might be contaminated and we don't know the impact it has on the human body. >> in ohio, state officials used one of these mixtures to execute mcgwire. a reporter said he gasped and choked for about ten minutes. despite the unconstitutional agony, louisiana is going to go ahead and use the same lethal mixture to execute a man next week. while the number of executions has declined since its peak in the late 90s, the use of these new sketchy drugs in lethal injections is disturbing. executions may be rare in the united states, but they're also
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becoming less humane. that is all for now. i'll see you back here tomorrow at 4:00 p.m. eastern. good evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show" live from new york. let's get to work. >> hello, everybody. give america a raise. >> it was odd coming from a president. >> he would like congress to work with him to pass a national minimum wage. >> it's easy to remember, 10.10. >> now he's just starting to tick things off his [ bleep ] list. >> the debate is on our side of the aisle. >> jobs are up. >> where are the jobs? >> i don't understand what you're talking about. >> republicans believe health care choices should be yours, not the governments. >> big government
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