the aftermath. after a rare winter storm shuts down parts of the south, atlanta's mayo defending his decisions passionately. why did this happen? and who's to blame? any minute, a vertebra for amanda knox. she now faces the same charges in an italian court. plus a new poll sharp in this the scope for hillary clinton. find out who she's beating by a factor of 6 to 1. freezing temperatures have turned many southern roads into blackize.

a political firestorm brews. nearly 48 hours, almost as many cars and trucks on the side of the road as on the highways themselves. there was this to tail this morning on "morning joe." >> the fact of the matter is we have an independent school system in the city, an independent state government and independent municipal government. i think we need to work much harder on coordination, and we certainly will, and i acknowledge that. >> nbc's gabe gutierrez is in atlanta with more. as many know, the metropolitan area about three times the size of manhattan, the size of los angeles -- this is a big place with a lot of cars. >> reporter: good morning. things are improving here in atlanta.

we're expecting to crack the freezing mark this afternoon. that should go a long way. many of the residential areas still are not. they are very icy. i can tell you that from personal experience coming here this morning. many schools are closed, but all the students that were trapped, they are back home. they got back home last night. state offices are closed. as you mentioned, mayor kasim reed defending his decision passionately. he is correct that many of the images shown on national media have shown the gridlock on the interstate. that is technically not the city of atlanta's responsibility. however, as i mentioned, we went to a school yesterday that -- where 90 students were trapped there, and it was very difficult to get to that school. so there's a lot of debate about whether atlanta and state officials did not see this coming.

meteorologists say they gave the warning sinds. still many residents are furious. they say that state and local officials, no matter the jurisdiction, really should have seen this coming. now, today many drivers will be allowed to go back and retrieve their vehicles. there were hundreds of stranded vehicles on the interstate. there's an organized effort to try to get them off the road this afternoon. >> hopefully some lessons learned there as another storm goes your way very soon. thank you so much. another big story. house government leaders have just wrapped up a news conference at their annual winter retreat. among other topics, immigration. some are expecting to butt heads on this issue. this comes after a number of top

gop members have indicated a shift. >> this problem has been around for at least the last 15 years. it's been turned into a political football. i think it's unfair. i think it's time to deal with it. how we deal with it will be critically important. e.j. dionne is a msnbc contributor and senior fellow at the brookings institution. susan page, you wrote just wednesday how any legislation may not even happen in this administration does this tell us that they don't believe this will cost them in '14 or even '16? >> i think a lot of the leadership will -- so they need

to at least make the appearance of an effort to do something for the -- but what senator rubio was saying yesterday is there's not enough trust to do the security measures that would be part of a deal. not enough to perhaps getting it done during his tenure. the question is, can anything actually get done this year? >> e.j., you heard what speaker boehner just said there at the retreat. saying we must get something done when it comes to immigration. susan was also remarks and writing that there are some on the right that don't trust this can actually happen. >> i think this is one of the

most interesting fights, into you it genuinely divides the republican party on principles. we're not talking about tactics over shutting the government down or have a fight over the debt ceiling. there are huge differences. a lot of republicans, many polls suggest the majority favor a path to citizenship for people who are here illegally. pay fines, and that group includes a lot of the business community other than the there shall people who are very wary of any path to citizenship. so this is a big fight in the party. what i'm hearing is there is a shot -- and the key person in this may be paul ryan, because

he clearly does believe in immigration reform, and i think a lot of the drama will be around the definition of some words, or a lot of republicans say we don't want to have a special path to citizenship for people who are here illegally. there will be a lot to hang on what that word "special" means. i think there's an opening, it will take time, but with this congress, you never bet too much on action. >> a lot of moving parts, as you're basically saying, e.j. susan, let me add to that. we have the house gop that sent a letter to president obama. el a paid time off bill and research funding bill for childhood diseases and disorders, so let's just say here, susan, the house gets that done. they play along with each other. will somebody like that be in lieu of immigration or minute

mum wage issues, the other key issues that are being debated. >> i do think these other issuesic looks raising the minimum wage are just more different. i think the fundamental clash may be between a path to citizenship and path to legal status. i think a lot of republicans would support a path to legal status, but not citizenship. democrats have staked out a line saying it has to be a path to citizenship to avoid creating a type of second class. you know, some things are going to get done, maybe we won't have a showdown over the dead ceiling next month, but some of these big pieces, it's hard to see how it gets done this weekend. let's double down on the showdown word. this showdown that's been headlined as republicans are meeting, do you expect something concrete to come out of this as

they were intimating in the headline? >> i think they'll come out with principles. whether that gets you to the next stage, i don't know. >> e.j.? >> i think they will not resolve all the their differences, because there are fundamental differences there. but i think we'll learn a lot about how they frame these principles, but i agree with susan that the fight is about how many people who are here illegally can get on a path to citizenship, but i think there may be a range of options there. you might end up, if you get a bill, with some compromise that's closer to everybody that is closer to zero. >> now as the president is hitting the road, he's out there pushing the message, right? in wisconsin as a g.e. engine

plant and then to nashville. both stops are about jobs, the economy and income inequality. what does the confidence actually get democrats when it comes to legislation if. >> i think he has a couple tasks, one is he has faced up that he has the congress he has, not what we wishes he had. he wants to show there are certainly things i can get down, people will see them and ask, why can't the republicans pass these on a larger level? he also wants the subject of the election to be about inequality. but even more about expanding paths to mobility. that was much more about expanding opportunity. that's the issue he wants to the table. e.j., susan, thank you so

much. a devastating scene in kentucky. as many as nine family members were killed in a house fire in mullenberg county. two others had to be flown to nashville. no word on the cause. the teenager charged with killing his teacher is back on court. new evidence was presented to a grand jury, according to court documents. state police say chisum admitted killing the teacher, but not raping her. russian officials say they have identified the two suicide bombers responsible for the december attacks in volume gogr. justin bieber in trouble north of the border. the pop star turning himself into toronto police for

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the so-called do nothing may have surprised some. they passed a five-year farm big. the big news.

recipients of food stamp or s.f.a.p. benefits. that has been cut over the next deck indicate. now it is up to the senate to decide if it's a reasonable compromise. what's the reduction mean margaret joins me on that. thank you for being here. is this a good deal? >> it is a terrible deal. we're not judging them on whether or not it is a good decision. it is a terrible one. this particular cut, 1%, just 1%, that true is not true, because a family goes to the grocery store with their ebt cart. they will lose half of their monthly allotment for food.

in real terms, what are you talking about? >> we're talking about $90. for the two of us, it may not sound like a lot, but if you need that money to be able to field yourself and yourself and it's half of what you typically would have gotten, it's a big deal. don't forget we just had cuts in november, we're still reeling from that. >> i grew up on food stamps, i know 289 absolutely hurt the family. what are they saying? >> this is not a small thing and not just a problem for the 15 states. >> just 15 states? not across all 50 states? >> no, it is not. this $9 billion will be

absorbed, not even by -- new york city will shoulder the impact. 1 out of 4 of the dollars will cut new york city? >> new york state will absorb 30%. that's why they can come to agreement. debbie stabenow said this -- we have gone after waste, fraud and abuse. supporters of this farm bill that has this 8 billion, says it streamlines does it? >> i think families that are hungry would call it a bad thing. >> they're talking about fraud. >> according to the government, this has the least fraud out of any of the programs offered. i boo like for the same people

to say it to the families. i'd like for them to tell them how they are crooks and full of fraud. >> what's the next step in the battle for you? >> the next step is for us to get as many americans to see this as an american issue as possible, and truly have their voices be used. richard, 70% of americans do not agree with necessary cuts. we need them to speak out. >> it's supposed to stabilize milk prices. you're not liking that, either? >> i tell you, i can focus on only one fact -- so many americans will not be able to afford the milk. people have to converse. >> margaret, thank you for stopping by today. if you put the two stars head to head in a hypothetical matchup, one comes out ahead.

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this hour we are watching developments coming out of florence, italy, where at any moment if amanda knox is a fugitive again convicted or a woman whose name has finally been cleared. knox did not travel to italy for the third trial in this case, but her ex-boyfriend has been there, hoping too that his name will be cleared in the murder of meredith hersher. keith miller is live. there any word about where this might end up today. >> well, not yesterday, it will be several hours before we actually hear a verdict. and other members of the cord to assemble. the speculation is there's no grounds of facts on this, but

bakley the fact that she did not attend any of the appeal hearingings did not work in her favor, though she's not required to by italian law. nonetheless her codefendant did attend many, saying he wanted to show he had nothing to hide. amanda knox wasn't hiding, but probably being very program. the third go-around for this murder. meredith was found p murdered seven years ago. and we're hearing that if amanda knox is found guilty, her attorneys will file yet another appeal with the supreme court, and this process could start over against. >> keith miller, now 4:24 in the afternoon there. we may get word very soon in

terms of what they are determining. thank you so much. to politics now and the talk of the west wing. it's reportedly the now former facial hair of white house communications director jay carney. his boss, jennifer palmieri has called it that awful beard, her words, when speaking to politico. she added the president has derogatory things to say about it. for the record, doesn't like that. newly released ratings show that president obama reached a new low in viewership for his state of the union address. that number 33.3 million people tuning into tuesday's night speech, the lowest for president obama since he took office. viewership for the president's addresses has declined every year since 2009. the marijuana policy project is putting up five billboards around metlife stadium. both the teams, the denver broncos and seattle seahawks comes from states where pot is now legal, at least to some

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there's no substantial opposition to her like there was in 2008 when you had the anti-war folks rallies behind the now president obama. i do think there is a danger in sort of tapping her as the nominee this early on but she will have an opportunity to fund raise. >> or her supporting groups. ready for hillary. >> now, the competition is within the margin of error, which i believe is two or three points. >> no clear front-runner. is that a problem or an opportunity here? definitely an tuned, richard. this far out you will not have a

front-runner, and it's kind of to test out the feel to fick out who is the best person to go up against hillary or whoever it is. we need to be focused on the house races, we need to be focused on retaking the senate so that when we do elect a president, we can put in place policies to get this country back on track. >> do you start behind, though? because you don't have a clear candidate or potential nominee? >> no you, you would get tired of someone -- you would have to listen to them talk for a decade. at some point you'll get burned out. that could happen with hillary. she's constantly in the spotlight, there could be clinton fatigue by the time she actually decides. >> pete, what do you mean?

it's only been 20 years. >> it's not 30. you see how the numbers get vet close, and this despite the scandals, so that shows a bit of softness there? >> i don't think so. i think the scandals for christie take him out of the equation. when you have u.s. attorneys issues 20 subpoenas, that is a probably for christie, and he should focus on that. i think one of the things we need to focus on with hillary is the gender gap. but the gender gap will be huge. until republicans put forth policies that attract women and women of color in particular,

because that's what makes up the gender gap, republicans will have a tough time, no matter who the nominee is. >> and a lot can change in time, and the two of you have not said that yesterday, but a lot can change. let's just say vice president biden does something and hillary clinton decides not to enter into the fray. in fact that's what he said. in his hard he's confident he could make a good president, though he did not commit to running either at this moment. a lot could change. how would biden change the republican strategy here? >> he would make a good president for late-night comics. he's run, what, three times snow? i think what's very dangerous, and this was touched on, is the fact that hillary is this far ahead. really trying to remake the

image of the democratic party as hillary clinton. i saw that happen here in indiana with evan bayh, that's all that democrats did. once he stepped away from the stage, the party collapsed. if she decides not to run, that could very well happen for them. >> no, i don't think so. comparing hillary clinton to evan bayh is like night and day, but i think the base for the party for her is women, people of color. that coalition would get behind her and get behind a joe biden. if she decides for whatever reason not to runs the democratic party would face some sort of xwlos. >> might there be something to take her camp to the decision to say we're not going to run? >> absolutely. so i think that anything can happen, and that's what republicans should be worried about.

>> thanks for stopping by. checking the new feed again this morning, the 19-year-old who opened fired inside a maryland mall once indicated he may need help for issues. new details have been released from his journal. police say he wrote he was ready to die and allude to do a plan that was set. he also apologized to his family. he's accused of killing two people before taking his own life. they're still searchic for a motive. ukraine's embattled president taking sick leave. the website says he has a high fever and respiratory illness, protesters have been calling for the president to resign for two months after he decline to sign a trade deal with the eu. the demonstrations have turned violence in recent weeks. two norwegian politicians have nominated edward snowden for the nobel peace prize.

they say his nsa leaks have contributed to making the world more peaceful. keep in mind that anyone can be nominated. the winner will be announced in november. it is the ultimate oscar snub. the academy has resigneded for "alone yet not alone" in the best original song category. the academy accuses the song's writer of improperly promoting the song during the nominations voting period. that would hurt. good-bye ben bernanke. morgan, the fed chair presided over his final meeting yesterday and is about to hand the reins over. >> we're surge ate in uncharted warts here. and no one really knows quite what will happen. market watchers are expecting interest rates to go up, could

take more money away from the stock market, so stock investors may be a little nervous right now. one thing we do no, janet yellen has been deeply involved in crafting these policies, so we don't expect any changes when she does take over starting next week. we'll keep an eye on that. >> morgan, what i'm keeping an eye on are tv screens. i must be part of a trend. i bought myself a $100 19-inch screen. it's in new york. a lot of the rooms are small. >> a little patience can be -- many consumers are rushing out. historically super bowl ranks as the third most popular week for sales of screens, 55 inches or bigger. that's only behind black friday and cybermonday. given that fact, a number of retailers offer deals to lure shoppers. you're looking at a savings of

as much as 30% off of regular prices this week, and of course price matters. according to a survey by fatwallet.com it's the most important factor for those buys television. the budget that according to consumers who were senior vailed looking at $500, right? a number of analysts say if you wait longer until after the real game, the real bargain can be had next week. why? tv manufacturers typically have new models in the next month or so, so you will see the numbers reduce. how much? we'll have to keep an eye on that as well. >> but the game will be over. morgan, thank you. what's a super bowl without the snacks? the national chicken council -- there's a chicken council -- says people will eat 1.25 billion chicken wings during the game, but it's not the top food.

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>> my pleasure to be here. you know, when we look at the commerce department and the new job training programs, what role does the commerce department have in what the president is proposing? >> you know, i have a long history of being involved with training and skilled work force. for the first time we have made it a priority to make sure our wonderful american workers are getting the skills that they need. that means engaging with the business community to make sure the job training is industry-led. so that's what the president is going to talk about, how we partner between the department of labor, department of commerce, and the business industry so that we make sure that skilled worseforge training is leading to good jobs. >> that relates to gdp, how much we're producing.

the economy grew at a clip of 3.2%. that's in line with estimates that have been coming out, and for you, i would like to understand, what are your projections for the rest of the year? where do you expect us to end up? >> i think we've had 11 straight quarters of gdp growth, 2.2 million jobs in the last year, and 600,000 jobs in manufacturing over the last four years. so when i look forward, if our jobs is to build on that momentum and create the condition, so businesses can continue to grow. as they grow, they'll be able to create jobs. we're working around skilled work force training, so companiessh are able to do so. we at the department of commerce work very chloroly with businesses around the come to help themselves get their goods

for the market. we also help companies from other countries that are interested in bringing their manufacturing or products capabilities here to the united states we're also working on -- studies have shown we'll get over $1 trillion of growth over the next two decades. what's the number that you're comfortable with, then, at the end of 2014? 3.2? >> i'm not a prognosticator, but an optimist. bringing mncs to the united states to invest in factories. i would like to play part of what the president said about these trade agreements. take a listen.

>> when 98% of our exporters are small businesses, new trade partnerships with europe and the asia pacific will help them create even more jobs. we need to work together to protect our workers, protect our environment, and open new markets to new goods stamped "made in the usa." >> however, madam secretary, you may have heard that harry reid is breaking ranks with the white house saying he's against putting those trade agreements on fasttrack. how big of a setback is that for the president? >> i think there's bipartisan support for trade agreements. what we know is 9 a% of consumers is outside the united states. we have communities like kansas city, where almost 100% of their growth since the recession that is come from exporting. we have over 10 million people --

>> but this is one the party. we're not talking across the aisle here. >> but you think what we need to do is help educate americans, and help everyone to understand the benefit of exporting. the fact that, you know, look, we live in a global society where there's global trade going on. if we in the united states don't help to set the standards, someone else will do that. i think the also the president in the state of the union referred to that. >> ivan on those trade missions before, you take 30 companies, do sell what the united states can make. the president did talk about that. very quickly, how are u.s. goods perceived? >> u.s. goods and services are very well received. in fact, foreign countries, many of the manufacturers, suppliers,

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♪ let her go oh oh ♪ will you let her go if only i could make this message go viral. >> you're doing it, scarlet. you're doing it. one sip at a time. >> sorry, coke and pepsi. surprise. ♪ all right. time for the reputation reporter. jansing & company's look at who's hot and who's not with our exclusive analysis howard bragman, always great to see you on a thursday, howard. >> good morning, richard. >> the ads are $4 million a pop. who is trending here?

>> what's really interesting, the big thing we are seeing is -- they're obviously very positive, about 9 to 1 positive. it's the volume. the volume has gone up 15 fold. it used to be a few years ago. companies would debut them, but now it's almost like a movie. some they leak them online. you'll see a great one for newcasting beer with anna kendrick, that's trending craziyly. great stuff out there. this is the one time we don't put our dvrs in fast forward through the ads. cheer i don'ts, they're doing something interesting. >> cheer i don'ts has an interracial family. they started with this family a few months ago. >> they got some flack earlier on. >> they got some flack, but overall positive, kudos for representing the changing fame of america. >> yoreall, that's what we are,

a very diversion country. there's lots of family that relate to that. they showed it in a big ad. >> no doubt. >> let's move the topic. senator rand paul generating some headlines pushing back on the accusationa republicans are waging a war on women. he brought up moniday lewinsky, called him a serial flill landerer. >> despite his transgression, women love bill clinton. they did push back, and the business builter is very negative, almost 4 to 1. he needs the business community, but he was on one of the sunday talk shows, and gave some statistics about business start-ups that were just plain wrong, and he's gotten hammered for it. >> two decades he's been in the limelight still remained with a high media quotient, at least

from what you're saying. >> absolutely. i want to move on to president obama, state of union this week on tuesday. if you had to have one of the headlines, twuf would be going it alone, get things done that i can get done. how is that being reacted to? >> overall slightly positive. business is not liking it. they're afraid his programs are going to cost money. they're not happy with the minimum wage, but the overall message we're seeing is, as a leader not so much. as a person, more positive than negative. they really like him. it was great to honor the wounded warrior and others. that really trended on social pedia. regardless of what side of the sigh, that resonated. howard, thank you as always. that wraps up this hour. alex witt is up next. alex? >> here's what we've got going. the agenda the next hour, the

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faster. the people on the highway who should have never come in. >> what is your responsibility on this? and by the way, sir. a service emergency remains in place. people are staying off the roads today. there's a coordinated effort to help people find the cars they were forced to leave behind. as think ignored forecast warnings until it was too late. we cannot control that, just as we can't make better predictions. >> the mayor got on the tv and said this wasn't expected. that's not true.