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faster. the people on the highway who should have never come in. >> what is your responsibility on this? and by the way, sir. a service emergency remains in place. people are staying off the roads today. there's a coordinated effort to help people find the cars they were forced to leave behind. as think ignored forecast warnings until it was too late. we cannot control that, just as we can't make better predictions. >> the mayor got on the tv and said this wasn't expected. that's not true.
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>> gabe gutierrez is in atlanta with us this morning. i know this is emergency is schedul scheduled. >> reporter: there are still some icy patches here in atlanta. schools remain closed. people will allowed to go -- there's a lot of finger pointing going on. stressing that many of the images that have been played in the national media have been in the interstates. that's actually the state's responsibility. but from personal experience, i can tell you that driving around even the city of atlanta, to and from schools, the icy patches really trap some of these from a
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good number of hours overnight. they are back home tonight after finally being able to get out of the schools yesterday afternoon, but this has been a very difficult time throughout the entire southeast. 12 deaths are blamed on the storm. here in atlanta in particular, officials are -- and that this -- the response to this storm was actually better than that one. that one left the town at a standstill to rise bo freezing. and to help the city thaw out, but again the mayor is defending his decision in saying that doing the best it could, and they've been very careful choosing very carefully when it comes to the state's responsibilities. now back to you. >> gabe, you live there in the area, were you hearing records on the local weather news stations about what was coming your way? were people informed? is it fair to say they got all
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the information they needed to? >> actually the day before or so, i was in south carolina preparing for the storm there. south carolina is expected to, you know, get 4 to 6 inches of snow over there. the city of atlanta knew they were going to get a light dusting, but perhaps not so much. the forecast changed, but the local meteorologist, and there's been some debate whether the national weather service over the local meteorologist from our local affiliate wxia, they had said that this was going to be a factor sunday into monday. that's when they started saying this would be an issue, so, again, the finger pointing continues. there's debate about who sounded the alarm when, and whether state and local officials should have paid more attention to the changing forecast. >> gabe gutierrez in atlanta, thanks so much. i want to bring in the atlanta city council president mr. mitchell. thank you so much for being here, sir. as you know, your mayor spoke with my colleagues. i want to play a quick clip of that interview with you.
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the fact of the matter is we have an independent school system, and independent municipal government. we certainly will, and i acknowledge that. certainly we know mother nature plays a big role, but what happened in your city is deplorab deplorable. bhald you have done differently to make sure you have some lessons learned. >> thank you for having me. i think going forward, we've got to really make a commitment to having regional cooperation and creating a singular protocol to address a winter or a weather event such as the one we just experienced. no two weather events are the same, so i think we have to be prepared from a communications
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perspective, from a protocol perspective to manage traffic and manage getting people in and out of the city. and i think as president of the city council going forward, working with my colleagues, not only on the council, but going beyond that with respect to our other regional governs partners, we have to figure out a way to -- >> well, because you're exactly right. when you talk about the roads being deplorable and such a dangerous mess, it's not as if you stop those roads where there's a city limit and issue something to the state and say we're only responsible from this point. so regional seems to be the answer, but let's talk about the national weather service. they issued a statement saying, quote, forecasts for this storm were spot on, a series of outlooks, watching and warnings began briefing local and state partners on january 26th. so can you walk me through the last few days, starting with the first warnings that you heard about this storm?
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>> absolutely, i think the changing nature of the warnings and changing nature of the severity as predicted, i think created part of the problem and the challenge. it doesn't create an excuse for us as regional leaders, but what happened on monday is you had a winter weather watch that was issued monday during the day, and then that evening -- that watch was downgraded to an advisory, a winter weather advisory, and then late -- early tuesday morning, 3:00 or 4:00, it was upgraded to a winter weather warning, a winter warning, and what that meant was that we were going to get some severe weather, whereas 12 hours earlier, the prediction was that we were going to get just a dusting. that warning was moved up an hour earlier. so i think that created a reaction issue for us. i think going forward we've got to develop a protocol that anticipates what to do, even if our advisories change from a
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watch to an advisory, and then ultimately to a warning. >> you know, i'm curious. you're an elected officials, but personally you must have been frustrated. what was the experience you had? >> of course, having a wife and two children. we had to figure out how to get home. it took my wife several hours how to get home. certainly citizens, friends and constituents were calling me, concerned about how difficult it was for them to get home. so as a citizen certainly my hard goes out to those people, those citizens and residents who were stranded, students who were stuck? schools, but i also am very, very thankful for the many business people, business owners, residents who really stepped up and helped their fellow man and fellow woman during this time. >> all right. i'm thankful for your interview, sees czar mitchell, i appreciate it. >> thank you. let's bring in meteorologist bill karins. bill, look, you were forecasting this storm. pretty accurately right along with the national weather
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service. according to your time did not line, is there any room for finger pointing here? >> yeah, at everyone, including forecasters like myself. the thing about this all morning long, it doesn't matter if my forecast is right or the local meteorologists, if we're not communicating the dangers of that, i mean, everyone still went to work, every parent still sent their kid to school, so obviously the message wasn't put across strongly enough of the dangers that were going to occur later in the afternoon. so that said, the forecast was made, and at least the government officials are supposed to listen to those forecasts from the national service, even more so than just the local mom and dad, so you can blame it on a lot of people. the school district said there may be delays or early dismissals, snowing at about noon on tuesday. even the schools up in north carolina were canceled during the day on tuesday. they weren't even expecting snow
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until tuesday night. if you can't treat your roads in georgia well enough, they should have aired on the side of caution, so blame the school district. you can also blame, you know, the mayor was was on earlier with us. they did a pretty good job with the roads, but the government should have been canceled. that should have set the tone. so, you know, and then there's the interstates, like you said. and that wasn't taking care of well enough. the reason why is they were expecting worse snowe from the south. >> now you're an investigative reporter, apparently. thank you so much, bill. here's today big question. weigh in on twitter or facebook. it is not just georgia dealing with the aftermath.
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that also wreaked havoc in texas. we have breaking news from washington. democratic congressman from california, henry waxman has announced he will not seek reelection this year. he's been there a long time, first elected to the house in 1974. he's a 20-term congressman. he says his's grateful for his career and constituents, but he abhors the extremism of the tea party republicans. going to retire. day 2. but should he be spending more time on the hill. i'll pose that question and more to senator ben cardin coming up. republicans huddled together for the big party retreat. what can they do to fire up the debate? you're saying i can get at&t's network with a data plan and unlimited talk and text for as low as $45 a month? $45 a month.
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president obama's in wisconsin right now as part of the follow-through on state of the union goals. he touched down just a few moments ago. he as going to visit a nearby g.e. plant as well as sign an order authorizing a government review of federal job training programs. he'll be speaking there in just about an hour. after that he heads to a high school in nashville. yesterday the president was in maryland and pennsylvania, where he signed an order to create the m.y.r.a. program. >> you can contribute as little as $5 at a time. what that means is though those of you who don't have, you know, a 401(k) on the job, don't have a pension on the job, don't have a mechanism to start saving, especially younger workers, you can get started now.
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>> joining me is ben cardin of maryland. >> it's a pleasure. >> you were with the president yesterday. do you think this is the best a, taking it out to the people and using his pen? >> i think the president has a responsibility to explain his program for the american people and he's doing just that. it started with the state of the union address, he came to maryland yesterday in pennsylvania, and today he's traveling to other places. i think this is the right thing for hem to do, to explain how his program would help our economy create good paying jobs. so i'm glad to see he's out in the community. >> they released a four-page her today, and they're saying they are going to work with the president to get things done. they highlight legislation they have passed such as reforming federal job training programs, also scrapping regulation, changing workplace compensation rules, and redirecting federal money toward pediatric research.
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house majority leader eric cantor spoke a short time ago. >> the president did say the other night, he said, look, in america it's always been if you work hard and you're responsible, you get ahead. well, we agree, we republicans have been talking about that for years and years, and so we want the president to work with us to try and solve that. >> the president keeps asking republicans to bring him their plans. they say they are, so where is the dissecond? is it not the plans he wants? snow not the content? what is it. >> first i think you need to read the fine print and look at the budget proposals that cut all these programs and maybe it difficult to have any partnership. so i think you really need to take a look at what they're doing in the budget, because the budget speaks to the priorities of this country. what they have done as far as trying to restrict the
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protections of federal participation. >> as you know "the washington post" is reporting that republicans are reaching out directly to the middle class as a way to almost undercut the president. for example, you have eric cantor, pushing the school vouchers. he's promoting expanding the child tax credit. move to paul ryan, suggesting grants from businesses to train workers. do you think republicans are trying to change the notion that they don't care about the middle class? >> no, i think the reality is you can't have a growing economy unless you have a growing middle class, and that we need more families reasonable wages so that they can help support their families. that's a reality. so i think republicans realize that, and they're trying to jump in on this. i must tell you, until we see the budget and until we really express their priorities, i think this will not ring very loutly with the american people. >> i know, snow, you've said you believe movement will come on
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the minimum wage issue and there are some republicans interested in passing this hike. what makes you think that republicans will agree to that in total to get something passed? there's some other aspects, and we're talking about that, so i think there's going to be a healthy discussion in congress. i think we will have republicans who will be interested in trying to help us pass a minimum wage. it's been a long time coming. as the president said, america needs a pay raise. >> senator ben cardin of maryland, many thanks, sir. appreciate it. russian authorities identify the two bombers responsible for an attack on a busy train station. plus what they're saying, and we're following developing news from italy. amanda knox waiting once again for a vertebra in the murder of her roommate. why today's ruling may not mean case closed.
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developing now, a verdict is expected at any moment in the retrial of american student amanda knox and her former italian boyfriend. this is the third trial. knox and her former boyfriend were first convicted of the murder back in 2009. both were then acquitted, and knox was allowed to return home to the u.s. after another four months of arguments, she could finally learn her fate. nbc's keith miller has more from florence, italy. hi, keith. >> reporter: it's basically a wait-and-see game, we're waiting for the judges to come back and sigh we have a verdict. the court said they would give at least an hour's advance notice that the verdict had come to it in terms of the two judges and the six jurors. it gives time for the lawyers and other members of the court to assemble, to come back in here. we're not sure what the verdict is going to be, frankly, but the
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speculation here is we may hear guilty once again in this case. the feeling is that amanda knox, who did not show up for any of the court appearances, did not shed a good light on herself, he codefendant and boyfriend rafael sol sitto did in fact attend many of the sessions, at one point proclaiming his innocence once again, but today it was the closing arguments that caught most of the attention. they had this case had been presented by the prosecution, and it was actual full of probabilities, and that that was not enough. so it really is just sort of waiting to see what kind of conclusion they come to, but regardless, if amanda knox is found guilty once again, her attorneys say they will then appeal to the supreme court, and we could go through this whole thing again. an appeal of an appeal of the appeal, which might sound boring, but for amanda knox and her codefendant, this has been a
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different procedure lasting seven years. i was going to say a long seven years. thanks, keith miller, in florence, italy. authorities in russia say they have identified the two suicide bombers respond for last month's deadly attacks. it's unclear if they are the two men seen in a recently released video. british police are in port nat investigatoring leads of the disappearance of madeline mccann. they're zeroing in on three men who worked at the resort where the family was staying. at least six people are dead after a fire tore through a kentucky home early this morning, about 150 miles south of louisville. two additional victims westbound flown for an area hospital. three ours are still missing a neighborhood says a mother, father and their nine children lived in the house. the cause of the fire still unknown. a missouri man convicted of the 1991 shooting death of a
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economy, health care and immigration, and called on president obama to come to the table. >> it's important that we show the american people that we're not just the opposition party, we're actually the alternative party. >> we heard the president say this should be a year of action, that's our goal also. >> there's four bills that already passed the house. in that phone call with harry reid, he can say use thog four, and i'll use the pin to move those. >> luke, i see you got the memo, casual dress, no tie, kind of fleece and sweatshirts, but what's the hottest item on the agenda. >> that would be immigration reform. around 4:00 p.m. today, the house gop will talk to the conference and unveil principles they hope will help guide the gop. you remember the house gop leadership outwardly rejected the senate compromise that came over last year.
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they have a position on this. that it will not be labeled as the party of no. listen to what john boehner said. >> that's why doing immigration reform in a common-sense, step by step manner helps or members understand the bite-sized pieces, that helps our constituents build more confidence that what we are doing makes sense. >> reporter: what we do know is what they won't accept, alex. that's the senate bill. they won't accept anything to do with amnesty. and they want the border to be secure. at this point it's still until clear what constitutes border security for house republicans. the joke around here is do they need a motor with alligators and predator drones? remember that senate bill had billions for border security, so much sore that senator corker called it overkill.
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the other issue at pay, the code limit, jack lew has said the debt limit will come closing. it's expected it will figure out a way forward. paul ryan convinced his conference not to have a fight about that. they probably don't want to do that and face the political fallout. >> hey, luke, are you at the back of the room there? >> reporter: i'm blowing up a press conference from the nrcc chairman like i said, we're always in the room and telling our viewers exactly the exact as it happens. >> that is excellent. thank you very much, luke russert in cambridge, maryland. >> be well. i'd like to bring in my agenda panel. steve bennett runs the maddow blog, and maria tresso could you mar is the president of voto latino. with a welcome, i'm going to
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begin with you, maria teresa. one is watching the rhetoric versus the action. what did you think of speaker boehner's explanation for this piecemeal approach? >> it isn't a surprise. it's the substance of what that will look like. as luke just mentioned, it will be very heavy on protecting our borders and national security. that's really two different sides of a counsel. one is how do you prevent -- and then how do you deal with the undocumented people one or border today. the idea that many republicans -- not many, i would say the minority of folks in consequence want a legalization without a pathway to citizenship, highly contexted morning, and i think that's what we need to watch out for. when they say piecemean, is it going to be some economic stimulus. >> okay, republican congressman steve -- talking about paul
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ryan, he was on the daily rundown yesterday. he laid out a rough draft of the principles they were working on. let's listen to what he said. >> that's the kind of process we envision, which is not a special pathway to citizenship. it's not going to automatically in any way give an -- we've give him a work permit or probationary status. they have to earn their way to a non-probationary work permit while we make sure we secure the border. >> is this how he makes it palatable to his colleagues who are opposed to reform? steve? >> i think you're right, i think this is how they try to make it palatable for the rest of the caucus. on the one hand in the senate what we have is a bipartisan process where democrats and republicans compromise and reach an agreement, but in this case, republicans negotiating with very conservative, and the result is a package only they
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will like. i think paul ryan started sketching that out in terms of his interview, but i think the end result will be something very different for anyone to really embrace. ma we'lla teresa, did you want to weigh in on that? >> i think the problem with that is he's looking at it through a lens of amnesty, and we should look at it as europe had actually created something different. they created two classes of citizenship, then you had a huge division, whether it's the turks in germany, or a lot of the arabs in france. people who were born there or had come there, they didn't have status, that created a lot of turmoil. so a lot of groups will say, sure, we'll take residency, but then it's not good for america. >> can you weigh in on the importance of legal status to overall immigration reform? >> sure. well, i think democrats are saying no way. if there's not a chance for a path to citizenship, they are
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not going to support it. as steve and maria teresa have been saying, what happened in the senate was a bipartisan process. it wasn't just republicans and democrats, it was republicanous groups, labor leaders, they all weighed in and supported this very delicate package. rue now house republicans are putting together something that does not have that widespread support, but republicans really need to -- i mean, one important thing to note is a path to citizenship is incredibly popular with the republican, so what republicans have to make sure doesn't happen again is what happened again in 2012. >> can i ask to move on to the next topic. is something going to happen in 2014? just give me a guess. >> i think something will happen. does it pass? something that the administration signs? i doubt that.
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>> steve? >> i'm inclined to agree. i think there will be a bill out of house, and i don't think it will go anywhere. >> an manda? >> somebody will happen, about you if it can get signed by the president, that is not clear. okay. let's move on to this one. this is about former congressman anthony weiner. he's giving congressman michael grim some advice. he writes in "the daily news" an investigation hanging over your head is the thing that people might be curious about. especially when you want to talk about other things. so, steve, representative grimm has apologized. how badly do you think this will come back to haunt him? >> i think it certainly doesn't help. he's already the subject of a investigation. he barely won reelection. this isn't the sort of thing that an incumbent wants on his
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record when it comes to reelection. we can imagine 9 attack ads that are already taking shape, so i also think there's a larger context, which is that, you know, republicans wanted to be focusing on their message and the democratic message from the state of the union address. instead they're talking about congressman grimm who threatened to kill a journalist. >> by throwing him off or breaking him in half like a little boy. that was so weird. weiner also says you have to roll with the punches, do you think this is the sign of a larger narrative, given all the different areas? >> i'm not sure if grimm wants any advice from anthony weiner, but raps this is an area he knows well, but i think the republican party is having a brand problem. let's not forget, this is in the backdrop of the backyard of the bridge-gate scandal where governor christie has always
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been proceed claimed as a bully, and we've seen what that leads to, hurting the citizens. they're weaving a narrative that casts them as bullies, people that don't care about their constituency, and will stop at no end. the fact they would do that on a roll camera also makes you think that they feel like they're untouchable. >> or somehow they forgot the camera was there, i mean, really. grimm was considered to be -- i know i've had him at least a handful of times on my broadcast. what is the next step for the gop here? >> this is not just a problem for michael grimm in reelection. it is a problem for him. he represents a swing district, but it's a larger problem for the republican party, especially in new york state. there are 27 congressional district. republicans have just six of them. democrats are already trying to get the swing district that obama won back from michael grimm.
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lead is the largest ever recorded in an early primary matchup in 30 years of polls, potential rival joe biden pulled in next at 12%, while elizabeth warren came in at 8. that comes as supporters from emily's list gather for the third annual madam president town hall. joining me from las vegas, host of msnbc's disrupt karen finney, who is not in las vegas, we should say. she's doing her work in d.c., but she also happens to be a former clinton white house aide. stephanie, i'll begin with you. this year you're joined by bill burton. he'll be speaking, in fact. do you feel the momentum beginning to build? >> we are feeling incredible enthusiasm about women's leadership. we saw it in 2012, we're seeing it here in nevada today. i mean, it is really, really exciting. the numbers we have seen in our research shows that democratic
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voters in nevada are excited about the prospects of seeing a woman as president. they're excited about where that's going to take this country, and i've got to tell you, we are excited about the conversation we're going to have today about women's leadership. i've got to say, it's not just about nevada. people should join us from around the country. come to emilyslist.on whirg. we still live in a country that has never elected a woman president, and it is time. >> i agree. there we go. >> the president certainly stirred up the conversation. let's listen to a part of that. >> it is time to do away with workplace policies that belong in a "mad men" episode. this year let's all come together, congress, white house, businesses from wall street to main street, to give every woman
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the opportunity she deserves, because i believe when women succeed, america succeeds. >> i'm just going to add, by the way, behind every great man is a great woman. i'm just saying. so the minimum wage boost, that will mean the most to the women. they represent nearly two thirds of minimum wage earners in this country. is there any chance this gets done while president obama is in office? >> i certainly hope so. i think what you are seeing around the country, as he talked about is states and others, like at the local level, not wait fog congress to act. so there's momentum already in the country, i think, to do this. i think it will be a hard argument for republicans to fight against, particularly given how important women voters will be in the fall. i mean, women really made the difference in virginia. women made the difference frankly in 2012, particularly women of color. if women come out and vote to
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our numbers, and use our power, absolutely it will be a tough argument for republicans to make to why they wouldn't support an indeed in the minimum wage or frankly equal pay for equal work. >> you know, stephanie, i know you are all about electing women in total, but we're always talking about this particular woman, with hillary clinton. however, on your website, you do have elizabeth warren, that she got into the third place in that poll there. but what if hillary decides not to run? who can you put your money behind? is there somebody there that stands out? >> i think this is important why emi emily's list list started the madam president program. this isn't about one woman, but a pipeline of incredibly strong leaders, who are as qualified as their male counterparts. you can see elizabeth warren
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polls well. she's also made it clear she doesn't have any intentions of running as president, but you have to look at senator cloamy klobuchar. we have a number of great democratic women attorneys general across the country we should all be keeping our eyes on for the second, third and fourth democratic women president. >> what do they need to do? i know they had a woman doing the state of the union response. what do they need to do? >> you know, they need to stop having rhetoric that does one thing and policies that do another. they give good lip service to the idea that they would treat women as equal, but don't support the policies that really treat women with respect. that's a lot of what the war on women is about. it's not about a single issue,
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but about recognizing women are equal citizens. what stephanie is doing is so important, the conversation has so changed in terms of seeing women as capable, authoritarian, leaders who can get the job done, who are, you know, credible and confidempetent. i think -- could support policy that actually support that idea instead of just giving lip service to it. >> listen, meet the two of you, and that conversation would certainly get going. you can also waffle "disrupt with karen finney" every weekend afternoon at 4:00. . it's time for the poly-sci board, he's paying to have his sister's ex-boyfriend beaten up in prison? why? allegedly to keep him quiet about his drug use. this week's state of the
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in place that requires a person in need to have first responders officially dispatched? >> no, there's nothing. if they come across a made aware of victim, they are supposed to immediately assess the patient. >> it's not like you have to call 911 literally register a call to say we need help. >> no, no, it's not. >> people can appear and say, we're in trouble. >> yes, they should rush to go and help that person. >> it's -- what brings to mind, my father is a doctor, we have flown on flights before as a family and i've seen my father respond on a plane mid air when there's a medical emergency. he's usually con shentous enough to identify himself as a physician when he boards an airplane just in case. he's never waited for someone to give him permission to help treat someone who is an emergency situation. doesn't common sense say really? >> that's what city officials are telling us and much more
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harsher tone than any official statement you just ahead. one of the things you're looking at here is that it was a probati probationary firefighter seeking permission from his lieutenant before acting. >> any chance it's going to turn out in court? >> no idea at this point. >> okay, peter hermann, "washington post," thank you so much. i'll see you back here tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. eastern time. my colleague, craig melvin is picking up things after the break and i'm handing him this hour, 30 seconds laearly. >> first time ever. >> now i'm using up the time. bye. check it out. i can't believe your mom has a mom cave! today i have new campbell's
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minutes from a natural gas plant where one topic i'll cover is job training. we'll bring you that speech live when it happens. speaking of agendas, we'll head to the eastern shore of maryland. immigration is on the table and my man luke russert is standing by. we're keeping a very close eye on a stormy south. a meltdown perhaps helping clear the roads today but it is over who is to blame that everyone is talking about. >> who screwed up, mayor? >> i think we all have responsibility -- >> are you responsible or not? >> meanwhile, a civil emergency alert limiting travel that's in effect until noon is going to expire in about 30 seconds in georgia in theory, that means folks can now try, try being the operative word, try to get their cars, more than 2,000 of them
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abandoned in the epic gridlock but that may be easier said than done. many were towed out of the way to clear the roads. the department of transportation wants people to head to one of two staging sites where the national guard is standing by to help. the chaos though was not just confined to the end, gridlock gripped birmingham, alabama, where children were forced to sleep in schools and frustrated drivers were stranded in birmingham as well. as things thaw out in the south, the political storm seems to just being heapi heating up. atlanta's mayor tried to do damage control this morning on "morning joe". >> almost every photo you showed on this program and others are ever the highways around the region. and folks on your show know that the highways are not the responsibility of the city. >> nbc's gabe gutierrez
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