people are poor people because they're poor. next time you hear a republican calling for the president's impeachment, have a little bit of sympathy. they're trying to distract from the fact their economic numbers do not add up and never have. that does it for us. chris christie plays dj and the hits keep coming. it is tuesday, february 4th, and this is "now." >> a little bit like a law and order episode. >> it is new jersey. they're probably stuck on the bridge like everybody else. >> hitting the radio waves. >> he's doubling down that he knew nothing. >> a game of gotcha. >> bridget kelly cited her fifth

amendment right. >> it's a pretty stunning development. >> he's got problems coming in all different directions. >> the office of chris christie has now been subpoenaed by the u.s. attorney in newark, the same office he used to head. >> there will be more leaks. >> the bottom line is this continues to hang over christie. >> our governor has taken a very public zero tolerance approach to fraud and abuse of power. >> he has to hope that everything he's been saying is the truth. >> just a game of got you. those were the words of governor chris christie waving of questions about when he knew about the lane closures on the

george washington bridge. he addressed accusations by david wildstein that he knew about the ft. lee closures realtime. >> the most important issue is did i know anything about the plan to close these lanes? did i authorize it? did i know about it? did i approve it? did i have any knowledge of it beforehand? the answer is still the same, unequivocally no. >> but also possibly yes. he may have known about traffic issues at the time but considered it routine until he got eyeballs on reports of the angry e-mail from patrick foye. >> the first time this came into my consciousness as an issue was when pat foye's e-mail about

this incident was leaked to the media and reported on. and that was the first time that i got a sense that there might be some issue here. >> the governor's careful phrasing of exactly when his consciousness was raised may have something to do with yesterday's subpoena day. fired former deputy chief of staff, bridget kelly, has become the latest to invoke the fifth amendment, refusing to hand over documents. she joins bill stepien, who is also invoking rights against self-incrimination. out of 20 sub pea -- subpoenas, only four of them turned over the documents requested by yesterday's deadline. who will play ball? governor chris christie himself. >> we have already communicated to them that we would cooperate voluntarily. they decided to send a subpoena

and that's fine. we'll comply with any of the documents that they have requested that are appropriate to turn over. >> while numerous chris christie aids have asked for more time, the committee is asking for money. joining me now from trenton, new jersey, michael isikoff. let's speak first -- >> good morning, alex. >> good afternoon. the 20 state subpoenas. four port authority officials are meeting the deadline. two are invoking the fifth. the rest are asking for more time or submitting documents on the rolling basis. what does this tell you about the breakdown of how this saga

is going to move forward? >> what this tells us is this is going to be a long drawn out process, which is not good for the governor. if the expectation was all the documents would be coming in, clearly that's not the case. almost every key player in this has requested an extension and has got it. this could drag on for weeks, if not months. the documents have to be reviewed, analyzed, and only then would they begin to be made public. so, this is not -- like i said, it's an awkward situation for governor christie. he's got these out of town events. he's going to be raising money for the association. he's going to be continued to be asked questions about this as long as there are so many unanswered questions and there

are. there were a couple of new wrinkles that we did learn from that radio interview last night. he was more precise about when he says he first learned about the lane closures, and that's when he read it in "the wall street journal." that's new. it was then when he called in kevin o doud, his chief of staff, and asked him to found out what was going on. a focus for this investigation is going to be now, well, what happened on october 2nd? who did o doud talk to? it's also worth noting that david wildstein was in the state

house here that very day along with bill baroni. did mckenna or o doud talk to wildstein? >> there's going to be the question of what happened after the governor found out as he points out. i wonder the reveal last night that the governor's office has a federal subpoena, how much does that raise the stakes here? we know there are state subpoenas galore. but his admission that there's been a subpoena sent to his office and they are complying with it and gathering the materials and not asking for a delay, what does that do measurably in terms of the investigation? >> a month ago if we had learned that the office of the governor had been subpoenaed by the u.s. attorney in newark, it would have banner headline news. we have known for at least a week or longer that the u.s. attorney was conducting an

active investigation. we knew that they had subpoenaed the campaign committee and the state republican party. it's puzzling why the governor's office didn't let us know right away, but it does underscore the multiple dangers facing the governor here not just from the legislature, but the office he used to head. >> it is an unwinding saga. thank you for the updates. on some level, it appears the governor -- not on some level. it appears the governor is being very careful about his language. there's some discipline required in that. other parts of this and the governor's response, specifically to their pushback on david wildstein's letter on friday, seem to be widely undisciplined? it's bad to be identified with a major scandal. it's worse to clean it up in a way that destroys your

reputation for competence. even in the cleanup itself is incompetent. that's assuming that this job does get cleaned up and christie doesn't face any criminal charges for all of this. what do you make of this? >> there's a weird duality of the carefulness of his answering the question. now he's implicitly retreating from the defense and saying, did i know about it beforehand? the story about when he knew has changed a little bit. he's careful rolling out and spinning what he knows and what the question is. wildstein is kind of comical. it's almost surreal attacking the man for a series of behaviors going all the way back to high school, which calls into question why did you make him

such an important figure in the first place? >> he is calling out wildstein for behavior that is almost signature chris christie behavior. nearly all of the evidence of wildstein's deviousness had been implicitly endorsed in its nomination of wildstein or approved. the more christie's camp is trying to prove this, the more it sounds like he did his job in the way christie wanted. all the things christie points out in the rebuttal are qualities that the governor has displayed i think as badges of honor almost in his governorship? >> yeah. part of what he's clearly trying to do here is to rally the republican base by identifying enemies they don't like and pointing the finger at them.

this underlies a lot of what made him appealing. some real bipartisan achievements he had in new jersey that identified him as a popular figure. it is unusual for a republican to show respect personally for the president. he's really kind of throwing all of that away to identify himself as this pit bull republican. >> let me ask you one last question. >> sure. >> the effort to rally the republican base, you have a deeply skeptical tea party when it comes to chris christie. do you think throwing out the red meat of this is about media bias and people who have never liked me actually works when such gross incompetence is at center stage? >> i don't know if it will work. i think a lot of the vibe of

this whole story is the kind of things that conservative republicans won't like. it's big city politicking of the kind that republicans are very distrustful. there's something so jersey about this that i think they're not going to like. >> it reminds everyone of the new jerseyness of christie. when it comes to turning out of his panicked voters, few states rival arizona. the details on that are just ahead. first, congress did something. just in the last hour, the senate passed a massive five-year farm bill with cuts to food stamps at what cost. we'll discuss that with one of the authors of the legislation.

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it was more than a year overdue, but within the past hour congress finally passed a new five-year farm bill following a 68 to 32 vote in the senate. what is in the bill? it is a rare bipartisan accomplishment. sounds pretty good. is it? roughly 80% of farm bill funding goes to the food stamp program known as snap. the final farm little, the one that will be headed to president obama's desk in just a few hours, contains tax cuts.

today the good congress people of the united states are pretty proud of their handy work. >> this is a nutrition bill. it makes your families have a safety net just like we do for farmers. the savings and food assistance comes solely from addressing fraud and misuse while maintaining and protecting critical benefits for those who need help, most often temporarily to put food on the table for those families while they get back on their feet. >> the result is a 1% cut in funding to the program. while no snap recipients will be dropped, 850,000 people will see a reduction in assistance. it replaces them with a new crop

insurance program. critics of these subsidies say they still go to the nation's wealthiest farmers. >> we tried to put some income limitations to the benefits of the wealthiest in this country when it comes to crop insurance and they calvaries took it out. what's a farm bill really about? it's about protecting the well connected in the agriculture community. >> joining me now is the chairwoman of the senate and the author of the senate farm bill. thank you so much for joining us. congratulations on getting something done. >> thank you. >> we're often maligning the u.s. congress for being in traction, but it is good when things get passed.

the $8 billion in snap cuts, is that just the price of bipartisanship in this day and age? >> well, alex, i'm so glad to have the opportunity to really talk to you about this because we've been in delicate negotiations for months and months and i couldn't speak to this until we got it done. first of all, a five-year farm bill means we are protecting food assistance for 47 million people in this country from any cuts because of a government shutdown by the republicans or any other bad policies in the house. we have protected them for the next five years from any cuts. secondly, we rejected every single one of the things the house passed. 40 billion in cuts. drug testing. moms with babies working. people only getting help for three months.

none of it is in our bill. to have credibility, i would, of course, address fraud and misuse. if you have less than $20 in heating assistance for a year, the system will go back to an old system where you have to produce a utility bill to get a credit for a utility bill. we're going to help renters be able to identify the piece of their rent that is the utility bill. if we're going to protect and fight for additional help, which is what i want, to provide additional help for people in michigan and across the country, we have to be credible and be willing to say, yep, you're

right when there's something happening that's just not right. >> you used the words fraud and abuse when we're talking about a program who is giving people who are poor enough to qualify for food stamps more money to put food on the table. the program just took an 11 billion haircut when stimulus funding expired. the narrative here that people who are on government assistance that are fraudulent or engage in fraudulent behavior has become a powerful meme on the right. i worry when i hear democrats talk about whether it was a loophole. but categorizing that as fraud maligns people who are incredibly needy to eat. i want to get your response to that. >> i wasn't calling that fraud. that's a misuse of the system. we need to be giving everyone additional help in this economy

because it's very, very difficult for families to make ends meet. this is misuse where people who don't have a utility bill are getting credit for a utility bill. we've gone after retailers and liquor stores who are getting cash and there's no food in the store. we have a range of things that we've gone after that are fraud. this is an area of misuse. this isn't the only thing that we've did. we have increased money to food banks. we have doubled the value of food assistance for people who buy fresh fruits and vegetables at farmers' markets. we're expanding local food

systems and organics and gardens, which are huge in detroit. people can take control of their own food by growing their own fruit and vegetables. we are moving the paradigm. we ha organics, school gardens, protected the food assistance program for 47 million people. we have the largest investment in protecting our land and water in our country through this thing called the farm bill. >> congratulations on the bill. thank you for your time. >> thank you. coming up, congress holds a new hearing today on west

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chemicals contaminated west virgin virgin virginians homes -- congress was given a clear picture of just how disasterous things have gotten. >> we hear it's one chemical. then we hear it is the two chemicals. then we hear it is 7,500 gallons. then we're hearing it is 10,000 gallons. either it is safe or not safe. i have families who are telling me they are melting to snow just to be able to give their children baths. >> in a crisis that is still unfolding, new information is surfacing about widespread neglect. west virginia's 2002 assessment

concluded it was high lysly highly susceptible to contamination. state officials say west virginia and american water and many other systems didn't elect to follow up beyond filling out a state emergency planning form required in 2006. while agencies and companies did the bare minimum to comply with federal regulations, it led to a disaster along the elk river. there are rashes, nausea, headaches, and mouth sores. a doctor told npr, i think there is no way to know what the safe levels of the chemicals are at this point. last week, it was revealed that freedom industries, the orwellian sounding company behind the leak, failed to disclose a second chemical that

spilled on january 9th. a chemical called pph, which is also used in the coal cleaning process. the company has revealed the leak contained 10,000 gallons. it is the second time freedom industries has revised its estimate up. it doesn't end there. just yesterday, this tape was released where you can hear freedom industries reporting the incident and then denying that the spill was toxic at the same moment that toxic chemicals were releasing into the water supply. >> are they toxic? >> no. >> no? >> no. >> joining me now is the great erin brockovich. you've been to west virginia.

if you can tell us about what you've seen down there, the national media attention on this has been dramatically thin and the suffering has been quite great. what are you seen? >> a lot of frustration from every person we have talked to. we're in and out of restaurants. they're still using bottled water. people just don't trust what's going on. they don't trust their politicians. they're not trusting their officials. they're told one thing. they're told another thing. yet they complain and complain that they smell things. they're nauseated, they have headaches, mouth sores. they can't get answers about their children. should we flush? should we not flush? outlying communities aren't giving any information. they're concerned and they should be. >> you hear about the stories that one state representative saying that people are using

melted snow to bathe their children and you think how is this happening in the united states of america. why has the national guard not been called? where is the president on this? i wonder if you have any thoughts about why this hasn't gained any sort of traction in terms of action. >> alex, we're asking the exact same questions that you are. it is really very concerned. and this should be a wakeup call for everybody. our water supply should be of national priority. had somebody come and done this from an outside source, we would have been invading them by now. but because it's a company in the united states, we do nothing? we have to look at criminal charges. we have to hold companies accountable. we cannot continue to use the public as lab rats, if you will, and randomly setting numbers

that you think or won't think will be safe. the next disaster could be a lot worse. we have really learned that our agencies are not prepared. the next one could be a lot worse. don't think you can't destroy and wipe out a whole lot of people by contaminating our water supply. >> one of the things that comes out of this if you read the blow by blow of the timeline, the tanked that leaked the chemicals into the elk river was built into the 1930s. it was not reviewed or regulated by the epa. even though environmental inspectors were at the spill, they were checking for air quality. the word regulation is almost a dirty word in politics. are you confident that a place like this in west virginia, an area of the country that's known as chemical valley, will see any better regulation, more efficient, and more efficientive

regulation in the wake of a disaster like this? >> i might be the wrong person to be asked that question. yes, regulations are in place. here's the thing. if nobody is out there enforcing those regulations, then it becomes pointless. it is a huge problem if no one is going around enforcing the regulations or overseeing certain facilities to ensure the safety of our water supply. that's an excellent question. i'm not really sure. we can put more rules on the book, but if nobody is going to go out there and follow through and enforce those procedures, we're going to continue to have this type of problem. >> given what the men and women of west virginia are dealing with, do you feel like there will be a civil suit? are they making their displeasure and anger and

frustration known to these companies? >> they're starting to. they're definitely starting to go to their politicians right there. they're starting to show up at hearings. they're starting to use their voice. they're getting their message out there and they're very, very frustrated. they're frustrated that they're still not being heard. i think we have to listen to what they are experiencing. they are the very persons living and breathing in this environment. we cannot turn a deaf ear to what they are trying to say to us. >> the idea that people are using melted snow because they can't tap into the water supply to bathe their children is completely unacceptable. thank you for your time. >> thank you. you're right. it is unacceptable. after more than a decade of war, thank you for your service has gotten complicated. we'll discuss what really happens when our troops come home.

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corey. [ applause ] >> well, the president and the nation cheered the bravery of corey for surviving a jaw-dropping ten tours in afghanistan. the spectacle made some people uneasy. while that moment reflected limitless credit on him, i don't think the sustained ovation reflected well on the america of 2014. we rousingly cheer their courage and will and then we move on. budweiser premiered its hero's welcome ad. ♪ i'm coming home i'm coming home tell the world i'm coming

home let the world wash away all the pain of yesterday ♪ >> the ad was heartfelt and emotional. it elicited more complicated reactions. one noted while budweiser has donated millions of dollars to charities, it is not how home comings happens. ana williams wrote, all i could think was what if cameras had been there when my reunion brother occurred, it didn't sit right with me. he said, i know what you mean.

but what is the best and most honest way to do that? joining me now from washington is james and a retired u.s. army captain wes. wes, i'll start with you. i'm sure you were watching the super bowl. when you saw that budweiser ad air, what were your thoughts? >> i shared a lot of the same frustrations he had. i direct mine in a different place. my frustration wasn't with budweiser. my frustration was we can all smile and celebrate and cry as these reunions happen. it is not just about the first day back or the first week back. it is about what happens to vets as we are months and years

returned to combat. the vast majority of our friends and families have no connection to it whatsoever. that's the larger, bigger part of the conversation that's been missed. >> james, you have an provocative column. there were two moments in the state of the union. one was the standing ovation for corey ramsburg and then the president's state that we must end permanent war footing. we have not reconciled this. i wonder what you think needs to be done for us to, i guess, reconcile us on the national level. do we need better leadership or

a better dialogue around it? >> what you're doing right now is a step. this spot has set up the issue very well. the admiration for the service, that is genuine. president obama had a long standing relationship with sergeant ramsburg. i kn for the rest of the country, it is too convenient and contained to have this ritual applause at the capitol or this super bowl ad without connecting the dots. most americans are not connected and only think about them in these occasions. i would hope a silver lining of that part of the state of the union address and this ad in the super bowl is provoking this kind of discussion.

if we're going into decade long wars, what do we owe to the men and women who fought in them? >> one of the things that was overlooked was the fact that sergeant served ten tours in afghanistan. that's a generation that knows only war. this man was asked to serve his country once, twice, ten times. that would seem like a place to start when we talk about what we are asking of these men and women. >> there's two kinds of letters from people on that point. one is from vietnam veterans. the other is from people who said they thought president obama was subtling making his case to try to limit these wars

by highlighting someone who had been there ten different times. >> we've talked about veterans issues before. it is very important to let our viewing audience as a country know where the veterans stand on the national landscape. while the backlog of disability claims from the va is down, there are still 400,000 disability claims that have not been dealt with at the va. there are 57,000 homeless veterans in the united states and 22 veterans commit suicide every day. what is the thinking right now on how much is being done to help veterans? are you satisfied with the direction the country is going? >> what we have to do collectively as a nation is to understand how to direct that attention and heart. how do we have this conversation

that is difficult for our families to have? we can do a much better job. >> i would think more of a nuanced message would be a good place to start. >> absolutely. >> thank you both. coming up, the home of scorpion eating governor. that's next. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso.

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