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they are beautiful. and i need them now. mika, what did you learn? >> we'll move over to mecham's shoes. it's obviously -- >> it's snowing. >> i walked to work in my shoes. >> can we do "my three sons"? >> and, by the way, thank you to joanna coles, had so much fun yesterday. she's crazy in a very good way. joe, what'd you learn? >> hey, hey, t.j., can you get the camera up? my god, what are you doing down there? unbelievable. t.j. i mean -- >> go ahead. >> t.j., so inappropriate, talking about your glasses -- stick around. chuck todd is coming up straight ahead. i hope you guys have a great weekend, and as always, thank you so much. t.j., get off of her! thank you so much for your patience. a weak jobs report for january. the unemployment rate does drop again, but the numbers are fairly flat, as well. how much of this was all
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weather? we'll get the first reaction from the white house later this hour. also this morning, speaker boehner scraps plans to tackle immigration this year. the move comes just as one top congressional conservative said action on the issue could cost boehner his job. plus, back to the future. charlie crist is one of the folks on today's show trying to get his old job back. we're also going to talk to bob barr. you remember him? well, he's running for congress again. and, yes, he's talking impeachment again. good morning from washington, it's friday, february 7, 2014. this is "the daily rundown." let's get right to the headlines of the january jobs report. it was better than last month, but that's a relative term. in all, this was another pretty disappointing report. second one -- second month in a row, just 113,000 jobs added overall in january. the unemployment rate did tick down to 6.6%. that's the lowest since october of 2008. but the revisions we were expecting in november and december did not materialize.
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upward revisions of just 34,000 jobs total in those two months combined. you'll recall a lot of folks thought the december report would get revised way up. that didn't happen. we'll have a more in-depth look when mark zahndy joins me in a few minutes. let plme get to the first political reads, and immigration reform in 2014. is it dead? after six weeks of raising expectations, after rolling out immigration principles just last week, house speaker john boehner abruptly slammed on the brakes. >> i never underestimated the difficulty in moving forward this year. the american people, including many of my members, don't trust that the reform that we're talking about will be implemented as it was intended to be. there's widespread doubt about whether this administration can be trusted to enforce our laws. and it's going to be difficult to move any immigration
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legislation until that changes. >> now, boehner's trust argument echoed what eric cantor and paul ryan said last sunday, almost hinting at where this was going. the argument to slow-walk legislation, because the president can't be trusted to implement it, though, strains credibility. if you can't trust the president, then why pass any laws? why pass a farm bill? why hammer out the budget deal? president obama will only be in office two-plus years. most of the legislation doesn't take effect until after he's gone. we know what this is really about. it's a strategy we've seen from before, they want to seize on the one thing that unites them -- opposition to president obama. now, here's the thing on what boehner did yesterday, in the short run, as the party tries to drive up republican turnout ahead of the 2014 election, it's smart politics. but the short-term gain for the republicans could mean long-term pain for the party in 2016. republican leaders are clearly
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thinking, as follows. why take up an issue that divides the party, especially right now, what seems to be a favorable midterm cycle? why distract from health care? as texas democrat henry quehar put it, if you are the republicans and you think you have the democrats on a good issue like obamacare, why would you muddle the message before you go into an election? conservatives argue legislation efforts should focus on making endangered democrats' vote on replacement measures. and then, there's the senate. the last thing any of the senate republicans facing primary challenges this spring want is to open up the immigration can of worms, and that was clear for minority leader mitch mcconnell's remarks earlier this week. >> i think we have sort of an irresolvable conflict here. the senate insists on comprehensive. the house says it won't go to conference with the senate on comprehensive, and wants to look at step by step. i don't see how you get to an
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outcome this year with the two bodies in such a different place. >> those republican primaries kick off march 4th in texas. so why poke the conservative base in the eye? now, the reaction from the right, talk radio world, the boehner's announcement shows the challenge he was up against. >> people are going nuts here. i keep getting e-mails and cookie sent me a sound bite, because i keep mentioning amnesty today, as i can't believe it. amnesty. rush, rush, rush, boehner has said that there won't be any this year. >> so just when everyone was noticing that boehner appeared to have more power inside his conference, because he was proven right by the shutdown strategy, it became clear yesterday that though he may have more power, he's not quite ready to use all of it. idaho congressman raul labrador told "cg roll call" if boehner pursued immigration reform, it
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could cost him his speakership. and boehner talked about the limits of his leadership yesterday. >> you know, mother teresa is a saint now, but, you know, if the congress wanted to make her a saint and attach that to the debt ceiling, we probably couldn't get 218 republican votes. [ laughter ] >> oh, man, speaker boehner. here's the thing, boehner's reluctance to push ahead on immigration is a long-term disaster for the gop, if the house refuses to pass immigration after the senate did so last year, it will become clear to the public, particularly viewers of telemundo and television, it will be clear that one party is standing in the way of reform, and it's the republican party. the latino vote was lost by 44 points in the last election, and this won't do anything to solve the gop's demographic problems. by the way, one thing very strikes yesterday, democrats are still trying to give boehner space. their reaction to his announcement was anything but fighting fire with fire.
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>> i am not thrown back by speaker boehner's statement. he's in a very -- as leader reid said, he's in a very difficult position. he is trying to figure out, in my judgment, a way to get this done without his caucus or too many in his caucus rebelling. i would urge speaker boehner to keep working at it, to figure out -- it doesn't have to be exactly the way we did it, but to keep moving forward. >> we remain optimistic about the prospects for comprehensive immigration reform in 2014. we've seen significant movement among republicans on this issue. >> so we'll see. i think it's a pause, not a total death nail to immigration this year. well, moving on to what may be the marquee 2014 race in the country. at least, it will be the fight
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between rick scott and charlie crist. crist leads scott in a new poll, 47-40, but some democrats are grumbling a bit that he's running a largely invisible campaign, though if you watch tv, he doesn't seem very invisible. this week, crist is changing all of that, a very aggressive response to republican attacks on his tenure as governor. >> announcer: florida's unemployment tripled second largest jump in america. which governor took florida to the bottom? charlie crist. he didn't stay to fix the mess. tried to go to washington instead. charlie crist, slick politician, lousy governor. >> announcer: rick scott is blaming me for the financial crisis? that's ridiculous. here's the truth. the recession wasn't caused by me or by you. you know who caused it? greedy wall street bankers and corporate takeover artists. in other words, guys like rick scott. >> man, campaign hasn't even
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started. crist has kicked off a media tour this week, reintroducing himself and promoting a new book, which explains the party switch. in the famous embrace of the president nearly five years ago, he explains it this way. as hugs go, it wasn't anything special. it was over in a second. less than that. but that simple gesture ended my career as a viable republican politician. well, joining me now is former florida republican governor, now running as a democrat, take his old job, governor crist, good morning to you. >> good morning. good to be with you. >> you're not invisible this week. >> no, my fellow floridians. go 'canes. i wore this orange tie for you. >> yeah, you say that, but you would probably tell a gator you wore -- >> yeah, and i'm a nole. >> what can you tell me about a relationship with a man named scott rothstein? >> well, scott's a guy that i knew. he was a supporter of me and president bush and governor bush and alex sink and a lot of people. he fooled a lot of people.
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and, you know, people do that. you know, there's a lot of people that have that kind of lifestyle, and it's sad and it's disappointing. >> he's on trial now for a ponzi scheme. it came up in testimony this beak, he claimed a sort of quid pro quo on judges. where did that come from? >> his wacky brain. i mean, it's absurd. it's absolutely absurd. >> and there's no truth to these allegations whatsoever? >> of course not. this is a guy in jail for 50 years. his credibility is zero, if not less. it's sad. he's trying to draw attention to himself, and apparently it worked. >> let me ask you about the economy. we saw the job numbers here. >> yeah. >> florida's unemployment rate has dramatically fallen, 10.9% when rick scott became governor, now 6.2%. a pretty good television ad to run, is it not? >> i'm sure we'll see that ad. i'm running against a guy who's got -- who says he'll spend $100 million -- $100 million. says he'll spend $25 million at the outset of the campaign to
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define his opponent. well, that looks like me. so, you know, carole and i are looking forward to that. i'm sure it will be a lot of roses thrown my way. >> i see already you are exchanging -- this is not normally january type of tv ads. >> or february. >> or february. >> well, he started in november, to be honest. i announced november 4th. they launched -- he launched, i should say, $500,000 in ads right away. that day. that night. you know, they really haven't let up. i think he spent about $4 million already, and our numbers keep going up the more they do it. i hope they spend a bunch of money. >> let's look at his economic record. you sit there, and that in itself, you know, he promised there'd be job creation. there's been job creation. i know the numbers that he's trying to -- he promised 700,000 new jobs over and above, and i know there is some math -- math reworking that he wants to do on that promise. >> right. >> but the fact is, the overall number is pretty good. are his policies working?
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>> no, i don't think they are. i think the president's policies are working. >> that's why the unemployment rate dropped? this is the president, not rick scott? >> i think so. i think the policies of president barack obama, starting with the stimulus, the recovery act, that's where i hugged the guy in support of that. and it was necessary. it was essential. it really saved tens of thousands of jobs in florida -- teacher, law enforcement officers, firefighters. if the president hadn't done that, i don't know where we'd be today. we were about to go after the financial cliff, the great recession as we know, but the president's policies have helped. and they've made a huge difference. i'm grateful to him. it wasn't rick scott. it was the president. frankly, he's fighting the president tooth and nail on everything. you know, affordable health care. the recovery act he was against. >> well, he's trying to expand medicaid. he's open for that. it's the ren legislature -- >> may i -- it's a good point. >> he wants to do it. the republican legislature -- and let's say you're governor, and you want to start an exchange, and you want to expand
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medicaid, and we know that t the -- some of the largest uninsured are in basically two states -- florida and texas -- two states not participating in the health care law, you have a republican legislature that's not going to be rubber stamping you. >> that's right. >> what will you do about this? >> here are the facts, first. he said he was for it, medicaid expansion, for about 30 seconds. i'm exaggerating a little bit, but not much. didn't lift a finger to get it passed, even the speaker -- the republican speaker of the florida house, will weatherford, said that guy didn't call me once to bring up this bill to expand medicaid. so, you know, that's an effort that is without effort. so we don't have it, because he didn't really try. >> mm-hmm. >> you know how it is in life. you have to try to get things done. and he didn't try. at all. and as a result, what are the results? about a million of my fellow floridians are not getting health care today, and i am told by friends sieu, that means six people in florida die every day as a result of that. every day. >> wait a minute. so that's a tough allegation.
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you are connecting -- you're saying people are dying, and it's the fault of not expanding medicaid? >> that's right. well, think about it. it's not a very -- it's not a stretch at all. >> i'm saying that's a tough charge. >> of course, it is. >> you're accusing governor scott and the republican legislature, not expanding medicaid is leading to more people dying in the state of florida. >> it's not hard to figure that out. it's common sense. look at it. if people are sick, and they aren't getting health care, what happens? they usually get sicker. or they die. i mean, those are just the facts, chuck. that's what happens. in addition to it, it's economically stupid. as a result, we're not getting $51 billion over the next 10 years for the health care institutions in florida. so the people get better health care, so that kids don't get sick, that we take care of people. that's what public servants are supposed to do. that's why i'm running against rick scott, because he's not a good servant. >> it is interesting that one charges they want to do, hey, when things are tough, they say you ran. >> yeah. >> you didn't want to run for a second term as governor. you wanted to be a u.s. senator instead.
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how do you answer that charge? >> pretty easily. i mean, you know, the way things were going, the then i'm most proud of, my service as governor, was that we had a bipartisan tone. we all worked together in tallahassee. we really did. the golden era of the florida legislature. very few votes were partisan at all, even with marco rubio as the speaker. it was really good. what i wanted to do was try to take some of that cooperative spirit to this town, to washington, d.c. they need it now more than ever. i wasn't successful in that effort. it didn't work out. but, you know, maybe god has another plan, and here we are. >> do you have a democratic primary. there is another democratic candidate, buddy mckay, endorsed your opponent, nan rich. do you think you'll debate her? >> i don't think so. she polls about 4%, something like that. >> you think she should drop out? >> that's up to her, not me. that's not for a decision. i don't tell people what to do. i don't tell women what to do, least of all. i think it's important we focus on rick scott. that's the problem in florida.
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this guy has decimated education. he's hurting the environment. his ethics are in big question. this is the guy, of all, chuck, who headed a health care company that got the largest fine for fraud in the history of america. at the time, it's stunning. >> florida republican allen cink, the only ad she seemed to run in the end. >> we're talking about it in the beginning, and that will make a difference. >> charlie crist. >> get the book. >> i have it here, "the party's over." fun tidbits for political junkies, too. >> yeah, i think so. >> john mccain, mitt romney. quite interesting. >> thank you, chuck. >> later this hour, another guy trying to get an old job back, and he has party switching on his resume, too. bob barr. one of bill clinton's biggest antagonists during impeachment is on a quest to go back to congress. we'll talk to him about it, plus the jobless rate hits a five-year slow, but the number of jobs added was disappointing. we'll break it down one of the
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well, let's get back to the big chill and the jobs market. hiring in january was slow once again, topping december's number, but not by much. as we told you, 113,000 jobs were added last month. the unemployment number went down to 6.6%. hiring has been sluggish the last two months, far from the numbers we saw from august to november, when the average number was over 200,000 jobs each month. in november, the numbers were e revised up 33,000. but the december revisions that many thought we were going to get, it didn't happen. just 1,000 jobs were added to the original number. in terms of the sectors -- construction, business, manufacturing -- all saw strong gains. retail was down.
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maybe not surprising after the christmas holidays. and government was down, 29,000 jobs. labor participation rate did tick up a tiny bit to 63% after it matched its lowest mark in decades in december. so let's bring in mark, chief economist from moody's analytics, so, mark, last month, you thought the december number was sort of -- was just sort -- wasn't going to fit the pattern that we were in, but now it looks like we have an issue here, does it not? >> no. chuck, it was still really cold in january, really cold. and, of course, in early february. i think the weather is all over these numbers. >> december, too? >> i don't think anything fundamental has changed. pardon me? >> you feel that for december and january? >> yeah, i do. and i think it's going to bleed into obviously now february, given how cold and wet and stormy things are in february. so i think the weather is all over this. and because nothing fundamental has changed in the economy since you pointed out -- look, the data in august through november. you know, nothing fundamental has changed.
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so, yeah, i think we're going to get back on track as soon as the weather gets back on track. >> if anything, we've gotten better in ynews. government sent t certainty is biggest thing, the biggest thing to impact the economy over the last two months, and we haven't seen a positive reaction to it yet. is that fair to say? >> yeah, that's fair. you can see it in the confidence numbers. there's various surveys of consumer and business confidence. and they all have improved quite substantially since the government reopened and got by the debt limit. and it showed up in other data, but it hasn't shown up in the jobs data. so again, you know, i just -- if you look at the sectors that are still weak, just take the month of january -- you know, retail, local government was probably a lot of the schools, educational services, trucking, you know, this feels like to me the weather is all over this. of course, you know, it kind of rings hollow on a day like this when you get these numbers. >> right. >> no one will feel good,
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including me, until we get into the spring and more normal weather. nonetheless, i don't think a fundamental has changed. >> the cbo came out with the economic forecast, and i want to focus on the first three years, the farther seven are always harder to judge. the first three years, basically economic growth of 3.1%, 3.4%, 3.4%. where does that fit with your forecasts? >> it's right in line. i think they're -- i think they got it exactly right. i think 3% this year. more optimistic with '15, less with '16, so net-net, they're right where they should be. the forecasts are pretty good. >> are you as gloomy about the, though, the out-years as cbos? they think we'll be pretty stagnant and flat, frankly because of government spending issues? >> yeah, you know, of course, i highly value what the cbo does and says. they are great. and they do fabulous work. but sometimes i disagree. i haven't bought into that pessimism at least to the degree
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that they have. so take the effect of health care reform on jobs, you know, of course, a big part of the report. >> sure. >> it showed some significant effects. i haven't built that into my forecast. you know, i understand the argument, and they're good arguments, but there's so much uncertainty around all of the moving parts here -- positive and negative -- that it's too much to incorporate that into a baseline forecast. so i've not done that. >> mark, moody's analytics, the monthly check-in on the economy and the jobs numbers. thank you, sir. >> thank you. up next, a special olympic-themed databank. president obama opens up to bob costas about his relationship with vladimir putin. and caught on tape. is russia to blame for eavesdropping on a top u.s. diplomat's official conversations? first, today's trivia question, who was president when the u.s. hosted the olympics for the first time? first person to tweet the correct answer to @chucktodd will get the shoutout. it's hip-hop.
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well, new tensions between old cold war adversaries on the eve of the sochi games. the u.s. is suggesting russia is to blame for bugging and then publicizing a private phone call during which a senior u.s. diplomat was caught using the "f" word to describe our european allies. in a private call to the u.s. ambassador of ukraine, she said this about the european union's failure to intervene in the crisis. >> and, you know, [ bleep ] the e.u. >> the audio was posted on youtube and quickly tweeted out by putin's government. some suggested it may be payback for newland who's taken a hard line with russia. newland addressed the conversation recently, pointing the finger squarely at moscow.
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>> i'm obviously not going to comment on private diplomatic conversations other than to say it was pretty impressive trade craft, the audio was extremely clear. >> it was extremely clear. that's for sure. turning to more positive international news, some olympic data, bank numbers for you to enjoy. we start with 10. less than 10 hours away from nbc's coverage of the opening ceremonies of the olympic games in sochi. the ceremony is scheduled to last two and a half hours. this time, opera, ballet, art, a russian deejay, and lots and lots of security. high-level officials are skipping the event this year, although russian president vladimir putin is making an appearance. and that brings us to the next number, 2. as in two presidents. despite an awkward relationship, presidents putin and obama have been in contact with the security in sochi. president obama told nbc's bob costas that russia's got a lot at stake in these games.
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>> i think the russians have an enormous stake, obviously, in preventing any kind of terrorist act or violence at these venues. and they have put a lot of resources into it. we're in constant communications with them, both at the law enforcement level, at the military level, at the intelligence levels. >> and finally, the jamaican bobsled team is competing in the games, finally, thanks to crowd funding. the number, $80,000. that's how much the jamaican team raised from just complete strangers online. now they've got their team equipment, finally there. it was delayed, but yesterday the bobsledders got the brand-new state-of-the-art bobsled from bmw. so it all finally showed up. now a point of personal privilege here before we go to break. would he have sad news to share. we lost one of the true pioneers in political reporting. before marty, there were no political directors at any
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television networks. no exit polling. there was no high-profile campaign coverage, really beyond the conventions themselves, and then along came marty. at cbs, he built the first political reporting unit of any network. he's the guy actually that coined the phrase too close to call. he literally changed the way networks cover conventions. officially, he covered presidential politics for cbs news from the year after president kennedy's death until president clinton's big win in 1996. after he retired from cbs, marty debated and discussed political reporting and the role of the media in calling elections, and in the midst of the most controversial presidential election in u.s. history, he wrote the book on election coverage title "the control room: how television calls the shots in presidential elections." and just days after the networks made their infamously wrong calls for florida in the 2000 election, he joined pollsters on c-span to talk about the mistake. and in his magnanimous way, he
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criticized the electoral college system and simplified the argument over who really won that election. >> i disagree with almost all of this. it's clearly wrong, as the man getting the most votes not becoming president would be. when something like that happ s happens, people resakai. they feel strongly about it. and the issue here is not whether it will be easier or harder to count the votes. i mean, that is really a secondary matter. and, i mean, the question is, when you count the votes in a matter that will be judged fairly, who's going to get to be president? it's already clear that no matter how you count the votes nationally, gore will have the most. >> he was the political junkie's junkie. everybody wanted to reach for him. when i first got the job, marty reached out to me, simply to wish me luck. when i wanted perspective on covering the campaign, especially in these days of polarized media, there was no better person to sit down with than marty to get some advice or
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simply to commiserate with. of course, i'm not alone. cbs's bob schieffer told politico this. marty knew everybody connected, every campaign i ever covered, and could get them on the phone. marty was 87 years old. he's survived by his wife of 40 years, susan morrisomorrison, a three children. and he leaves his mark on every major network, including this one, and for that, i and many others will be forever grateful. we'll be right back. but then it goes to the closet...to die. so try glow unstopables. they fill your closet with scents so fresh they last for 12 weeks! [ male announcer ] unstopables. america's best scent booster. and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work
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heck, i saved judith here a fortune with discounts like safe driver, multi-car, paperless. you make a mighty fine missus, m'lady. i'm not saying mark's thrifty. let's just say, i saved him $519, and it certainly didn't go toward that ring. am i right? [ laughs ] [ dance music playing ] so visit progressive.com today. i call this one "the robox." here's a little blast from the past. it's been quite a political journey for bob barr, and now the man who led the charge to impeach president clinton is trying to make his return to capitol hill, and he's hinting that he could have the current president in his impeachment sights. barr represented georgia's 7th district for eight years after being elected during the republican wave, becoming president clinton's chief an nag
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nis -- antagonist. he was the first one to mention possible impeachment. throughout his time in congress, he was a conservative rock star, tea party before there was a tea party, introduced the defense of marriage act and joined the board of the nra. after his district was eliminated before the 2002 midterms, barr lost one of the member versus member primaries to john linder. two years later he joined the libertarian party, running in 2008. while a libertarian, he advocated for smaller government and in the process turned his back on traditional republican positions, like medical marijuana, and that defense of marriage act, the actual legislation he wrote himself. here's what he said about that. >> the damage to their lives and the lives of other americans that have been wrought by the abuse of that provision and those provisions in the defense of marriage act that purport to define marriage by the federal government, which has been used as a hammer on individuals seeking to enter this country and who are in this country to
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deny them rights that they ought to have, and as i promised them then, and as i promise you now, i will work to repeal that provision of law. [ applause ] >> well, barr ended up finishing the presidential election with .4% of the vote, and after leaving politics, he worked as an attorney, notably consulting for the notorious haitian exdictator, devaluier. while he faced allegations of human rights abuses in 2011 barr has been a consistent critic, and he suggested he might go after him the same way he went after bill clinton. >> i was with some folks just recently and pulled out a file in my office, the house resolution, the house resolution that i introduced on november 5th of 1997 that was the very first official inquiry of impeachment filed against bill clinton. and what i did is i took that --
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took that document, figuratively kind of dusted it off, added a little bit of language to it, and darn if it doesn't sound pretty good with barack obama's name in there. >> well, this we're, barr also repeated his calls for attorney general eric holder to step down. for his current race, barr has switched from the libertarian party back to the gop, and running in the 11th district filled by phil gingrich. with me now is the current candidate for congress, bob barr. good morning to you, sir. >> chuck, good morning. great to be with you, as always. >> well, let me -- so am i right to say you are a pro-gay marriage, pro-marijuana, pro-impeachment republican running for congress in the south in the state of georgia? >> no. what i am is i am pro-constitution and pro-federalist system of government, in which decisions ought to be returned to the states and the people of the states to make, and rest these
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things out of the hands of the federal government. that would be the correct characterization. >> so if a state wants to legalize marijuana, that's fine with you. if a state wants to legalize gay marriage, that's fine with you. where are you on those issues? do you want georgia to legalize gay marriage? you want georgia to legalize marijuana? >> no, i mean, i'm not -- i'm not a proponent of same-sex marriage, but i am a proponent of the people of the states making these decisions. these are traditionally and historically, chuck, not decisions that the federal government ought to be making. the people of the states ought to. let's get the federal government back to the job that it should be doing, which is basically defending our nation and performing those functions that are unique to the federal government, get them out of our live, get them out of the running of the states. and our economy would boom, and freedom would be returned to the people and to the states where it ought to be. >> well, you are sounding more libertarian in what you're talking about today, like a
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libertarian. so i guess i would ask you, why did you leave the republican party to join the libertarians, and then why did you leave the libertarian party to rejoin the republican party? >> well, because despite detours by political parties, i stick to the constitutional road, which is what james madison called our constitution back when he wrote about it in the federalist papers. the constitution always has been where i've tried to remain. and if, in fact, a republican administration strays from that, as the bush administration did very noticeably for a while there, i don't go with it. what i do is i stay with the constitution. and that's what i find, chuck, that the people in the 11th district of georgia, which includes a lot of my old district -- >> yeah. >> -- that's what they want. they want constitutional consistency. >> so would you have -- would you have tried to bring impeachment proceedings against president bush?
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you brought them against president clinton. you claim you'll bring them against president obama. but you made an argument about the way that bush strayed away from the core constitutional beliefs, if you had been in congress for most of president bush's terms, would you have introduced impeachment proceedings against him? >> look, i'm not in this race to impeach anybody. what i'm in this race for is to get back to what we were able to do during the clinton years when we had republican leadership and republican majority in the u.s. house. and that is to get our economy back on track, to balance the budget, to cut taxes, and reform government programs. we did it before, we can do it again. that's the focus -- the people of the 11th district, and that's going to be my focus in this district. >> well, you say you're not in this to impeach anybody, but let me ask you this. do you feel you're partly responsible for this atmosphere of polarization that we have today? impeachment was incredibly divisive. then we had the 2000 election, which was divisive, the iraq war -- but you could argue that
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the impeachment, going after the president at the time for his sexual picadillos divided this country to a point that we've not recovered since. why joke about impeachment, as you did on that radio show? is that the type of divisive politics you think we need in washington? >> chuck, i don't know what you're talking about. that wasn't a joke. i was asked a question about impeachment, and i answered it very seriously. >> so you are serious. so if you come here -- >> to claim -- to claim that the president clinton was impeached for picadillos is nonsense. he was impeached for perjury. that may not be important to you, but for a majority in the house, it was important. >> do you believe it led to dividing this country in a way that we've actually lacked cooperation for a couple of decades? >> what's really led, i think, chuck, more than anything else
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to the very clear divisiveness and inability to get things done in washington is an unwillingness on the part of a lot of our political leaders, including the president, including many of those in the house and the senate, to look for common ground, to move our agenda forward. our shrinking government, getting the economy back on track. even though i had very serious -- obviously -- disagreements with bill clinton, and even though newt gingrich when he was speaker had serious disagreements with bill clinton, we were able to get things done. that atmosphere, that willingness is lacking. and the reason -- the main reason that i'm running to return to the congress is to do my little part, as i can, to get us back to being able to work these things and move our agenda forward, to shrink government. >> all right. i will have to leave it there. former republican congressman bob barr. we'll be watching in the campaign trail. stay safe. and we'll keep track of the campaign. good luck to you. >> thank you, chuck. up next, the obama
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jobs. 142,000 was a little below expectations, and other months, it's a little above expectations and it's averaging out. one of the things we find most encouraging is that unemployment rate came down to 6.6%. it keeps coming down. if you look at forecasts just a couple of months ago, people thought it would take us another year to get to where we are now in the unemployment rate. >> let me ask you on the cbo front, and not on the question that you think i may be asking, but it's on the, to me, the bigger topic, which is essentially they projected an economy that is stagnate for the last seven years because of the aging population coupled with the pressure of the entitlements, both the social security and the health care, and the cost of that, and the baby boom generation. let me ask you this -- doesn't this mean that you guys have to tackle major entitlement reform now? you can't wait five years, ten years? but you have to tackle this issue now, whether it's tax reform, social security reform, medicare reform?
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>> chuck, that cbo report showed the deficit is coming down at the -- >> yeah, for the first three years, and then it's going to pop back up. >> and they have a lower projection of the deficit for next year. the debt continuesup. >> they have a lower projection deficit for next year, the debt continues to decline as a result of the economy through 2017, 2018. absolutely, we need to do more over the long-term. >> president didn't even say the word entitlement in the state of the union. >> you know that he has been there from the very beginning of this administration prepared to work with anyone on a balanced package that includes revenue and that reforms our entitlements, but we have made a lot of progress on our deficit. we are getting our debt down as a share of the economy, and the most immediate imperative we face is expanding opportunity, and that's what the president's taking action this year to do. >> all right. i'm going to leave it there. jason furman, thanks for checking with us. first white house reaction to the january jobs number.
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who can accept funds from big donors. since august, the koch brothers super pac has sent more than $27 million in tv ads targeting democrats in 2014. the gop and its donors are focused in 2014. democrats, do they have the only one eye in 2014 and the other on 2016? let's look at some things here. party usa has aligned itself with hillary clinton and said it's not going to get involved in the 2014 house and senate campaigns. more than 33,000 donors, another democratic group raising money for reasons other than 2014 arguably is arguing for action, the group that supports president obama's legislative agenda. they raised $26 million last year, so are these groups taking away money from the dnc and national party and hurting democrats' chances of winning in
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2014? the republican party has a singular focus on 2014 and it could pay dividends for them. is it going to be up to president obama and hillary clinton to send messages to their super pacs and groups that support them that they have to put both eyes on the election that's 270 days away and not the one that's 1,005 from now? that's it for "the rundown." coming up next is chris jansing. enjoy the opening ceremonies. don't forget to watch tonight. plug, plug, plug. check it out. i can't believe your mom has a mom cave!
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