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>> reporter: we know this situation appears to be contained, that this suspect, attempted hijacker, was taken into custody by turkish officials. it began several hours ago when a plane left from the ukraine. it was always on its way to istanbul, but then a passenger in one of the up-front seats, 2f, alerted the crew, alethat there was a bomb on the plane and he wanted the plane to be diverted to sochi during the opening ceremony. you can imagine that caused a great deal of concern when these reports came out because there is so much security in place here as that opening ceremony is still under way. the crew acted quite calmly under this very stressful situation. they told this attempted hijacker that they were meeting his demands, that they would, in fact, divert the flight to sochi. they did not, however, do that. instead, they stayed on course to istanbul. they turned off the in-flight monitors so that the attempted
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hijacker wouldn't know exactly where the flight was going. it was dark at the time. so it would have been very difficult for him visually to identify the location of the plane. and as soon as the plane entered turkish air space, the pilots tripped an alarm that alerted two f-16 fighter jets to be scrambled to escort the plane into an airport on the asian side in istanbul. the plane was surrounded, at that stage negotiations took place. the pilot alerted special forces that they could board. the suspect was taken into custody, and it's unclear if he ever had a bomb. there are some reports that he may have been drunk. but it certainly caused a great deal of concern over the last several hours here. >> richard engel, thank you. we should note for our viewers who are watching and listening at home that while richard was giving us that report in sochi, you probably heard what sounded like explosions in the background. these are fireworks, fireworks
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from the opening ceremony. the opening ceremony in sochi that is wrapping up as you just saw and heard there. moments ago vladimir putin formally opened the winter games. things are not going off without a hitch entirely. apparently there was a malfunction of some sort that prevented one of the olympic rings from opening during the elaborate show. there are the rings i was just telling you about. outside the stadium, many journalists are reporting poor preparation and shoddy construction in some of the hotels. of course there continues to be the major concern over security. meanwhile, here in the united states, the tsa is imposing a new temporary ban on all liquids in carry-on luggage for flights headed to russia. the new ban includes most aerosols, gels, poulders, liquids, in place for the next 30 days. president obama is now weighing in on the terror threat in sochi. in an exclusive interview with
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bob costas. >> i think the russians have an enormous stake, obviously, in preventing any kind of terrorist act or violence at these venues, and they have put a lot of resources into it. we're in constant communications with them, both at the law enforcement level, at the military level, at the intelligence levels. >> that entire interview will appear tonight during the opening ceremonies. nbc's kooir simmons is in sochi. sounds like the fireworks have wrapped up. are we to assume the opening ceremony itself is also over? >> reporter: yeah. the opening ceremony seems to be over. those fireworks that you could hear behind richard while he was talking to you we could certainly hear as well. we were in the middle of them. there were fireworks to my right, fireworks to my left going off at the end of the
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opening ceremony and the olympic flame was carried to the cauldron. the cauldron was lit. so certainly the 22nd winter olympic games, even though we've seen a couple days of preliminary competition here, very exciting competition, things really now are getting under way. president putin was hooer to see the opening ceremony, declared the games opening. and what we've been expecting through the opening ceremony, waiting to see what happened inside is that russia would celebrate its history and look to the future, that we would see a map of the world only the floor of the arena and that the athletes would come out, their individual country, that we would see a celebration of russia's ballet, of its writer, of its poteets.
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it sounds from the outside as if it was a spectacular display, at least from the roars of the crowd that we have heard through just under three hours that this opening ceremony has been going on. >> sounds like it will be quite the show when folks watch it 7:30 this evening eastern standard time. ma what's security been like, keir? >> reporter: the security has been strict. there's no question of that. it has been airport-style controls each stage, including when you came into the park here. we came here to be with you, but everybody who came into the arena behind me needed to go through those same kinds of contr controls. that plainly caused some delays. but in a sense i suppose at the same time it leaves people feeling safer because they can see the checks that are taking place and everyone in the buildup to this, despite a buildup to a winter olympics that has involved the good deal of political fighting, of controversy, and of fears of
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terrorism, despite all that, the rue voou has been that here in the olympic park it is extremely safe because of all of those checks. by the way, just as i look behind me, i can see people beginning to flood out of the arena. so the ceremony is over. the games are on. >> and we will leave threat. keir simmons for us in sochi outside the stadium where the opening ceremonies have just wrapped up. thank you so much, sir. the news nation also following the latest jobs report released today which analysts say once again fell below expectations. the labor department reported employers added just 113,000 jobs in january, far fewer than expected. the nation's unemployment rate dipped a tenth of a point to 6.6%, the lowest level since october 2008. the white house issued a statement saying in part, "today's report is another reminder of both the progress that has been made and the challenges that remain."
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meanwhile, house speaker john boehner also issued a statement saying, "the american people continue to ask, where are the job, and the president clearly has no answers." wall stre wall street's reaction seems to be positive. the dow up roughly 140, s&p, nasdaq both up as well. meanwhile, the u.s. also technically hit the debt ceiling again today. so far, though, nobody is alarmed. the markets certainly aren't alarmed. that's because congress still has several weeks to predent default thanks to, quote, extraordinary measures being taken by the treasury department right now. treasury secretary jack lew says they can keep the government running until at least the end of the month. joined by kerry mcdonnell and zackry karabell, columnist for the atlantic and author of a new book called "the lead lg indicators. a short history of the numbers that rule the world." we'll talk about that later.
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what's the latest on a deal to raise the so-called debt ceiling? >> so, when is a deadline not a deadline, craig? when you're dealing with congress, that can be the case. so you mentioned today was the point where the treasury department no longer has the ability to borrow and can do those things to move money around essentially and provide more time. so what the house republicans are looking at are some ways to attach something to a vote to increase the borrowing authority, the debt limit, and they do that in part because they believe that this is one of those leverage points where perhaps they can extract something they would like to see achieved by this being such a make or break, must-do kind of issue. we've seen that before. there isn't the appetite right now to push the country up to the brink. there does seem to be an overall fatigue. but where does it stand? well, the initial wave of a couple of ideas being floated just within the republican conference, would there be enough support, for example, the keystone pipeline, attaching
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that. would that be enough to get some of the republican members who are the least likely to vote for an increase in the debt ceiling to go along. so far republican only ideas have not worked. so house leadership is considering other things that could attract democrats. now, the democratic leader in the house, nancy pelosi, would like to see just a clean debt ceiling. >> right. >> nothing attached to it at all. but what they're looking for are some things that if they were put on the floor might attract enough democratic support to achieve raising the debt ceiling and at the same time getting something. one idea being kicked around is something called the doc fix. that becomes one of these pressure points every time there's a fiscal crisis. it has to do with how our doctor who is provide medicare services paid. at what rate do their services get increased, and when the law was originally written, it didn't provide for increases. so it's always one of those things tacked on to say can we fix that so doctors don't take a
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steep pay cut, which would perhaps discourage them from seeing patients. so early next week, we expect to see where are these ideas, is there something in the air, but i wouldn't expect to see a resolution next week. >> of course not. of course not. kelly o'donnell, thank you so much, down in d.c. for us. let's turn to the report here quickly. weak numbers for the second straight month. 113,000 jobs created. but let's dig deeper here into the numbers. let's look at this right here. private sector, 142,000 jobs created. federal, state, local governments cut roughly 29,000 jobs. again, the unemployment rate ticks down a wee bit. what do those numbers tell you? >> that follows last month where you also had kind of a weak report, 75,000 jobs or at least statistically 75,000 job, and the unemployment rate keeps coming down, and that's because this thing called the labor force participation rate keeps decreasing. labor force participation is you have to be looking for a job to be counted as unemployed.
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if you're discouraged or prosecutorial or entrepreneurial or if you're 27 years old and you have a cell phone and no one can reach you, you don't exist statistically. this is how many looking for job, how many have them and how many don't. there's a lot of confusion. this revised all of last year up by 600,000 jobs we e magically did not know existed. i think this plays to, and kelly's report shows this, we live in this complicated sea of numbers. i don't think we should be treating these reports as someone went around and counted every single american and said do you have a job, do you have a job, do you have a job. >> correct me if i'm wrong, we're talking about some folk who is pick up the phone and call people one week out of the month. >> yeah. >> we say it's a monthly survey -- >> 60,000 people. right. and again, if you've got a cell phone, as a lot of 20-somethings do, they're hard to reach and they don't answer the phone. they don't walk down the street going yes, yes. then you have this payroll survey of 500,000-plus employers. and we get this job report.
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so, you know, one thing that's utterly clear we know about, there are a lot of jobs that are low paid. we treat that as a positive, it's employment. but if it's $8, $10 an hour, the point of the minimum wage debate, is it better to have that job than receive government ben fifths? i recognize these are good opportunities to talk about the issues that matter but not if we're laser-like focusing on the number. >> the number. which, as you maintain and lots of other folks have maintained as well, may not be such a solid, reliable predictor of anything. >> and it gets ree vised every single month. as i've said before, we've rarely come on this show and go november's jobs report revised up 400,000 or 200,000 down. we talk about the number of the day that comes out and it's provisional and indicative but not accurate. >> let's talk about wall street quickly, something else happening so far at least this year. last year a big year for folks who invest professionally and folks who just might have a 401(k). >> yep.
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>> or an i.r.a. or something like that. 30% up last year. so far this year somewhere around 5% down. is it time to panic at this point? >> in the last few days only 3% down. that makes it 27% up in the past 13 months. hardly a handwringing thing, hair pulling, don't want to mix the metaphors. part is the fed changed its policies. it's buying fewer bonds, injecting less money into the markets. that led to a lot of roiling in the world outside the united states. but if you just think about u.s. economic growth, okay, job growth, and decent continued consumer spending, there's a reason companies are doing well because they don't have to pay for roads or schools. >> sitting on a bunch of cash. >> it's a good time to be a company and a company in control of money. it's a really difficult time to be an average wage earner. but in the storm, you're not investing in the average wage earner. you're investing in those companies. it's a good reason for those
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companies and stocks to be doing well even while the quote, unquote, real-world economy is struggling. people ask this can't possibly sit side by side, i'd say it can easily sit side by side. >> i wish we had more time to get into it, but we don't. it would seem as if some of these companies are overvalued as well. >> they are sitting a lot of them on a huge amount of cash they don't know know what to do with. a lot of what they're doing is buying back their own stock, which props up the stock price. >> what's the name of the book again? >> "the leading indicators." >> still ahead, key witnesses temping today in the trial against the florida man accused of shooting and killing an unarmed teenager during a dispute over loud music. >> i saw a young black male sitting on the driver's side, rear passenger's seat, sobbing uncontrollably. he was cradling another young black male's head. >> coming up, we'll hear from one of the teenagers who was in the car when the victim was
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recently passed farm bill which he is going to sign today. >> and the heart of american manufacturing. so when that heartbeat was flat lining, we all pulled together, all of us, autoworkers who punched in on the line, management, who made tough decisions to restructure, elected officials like gary peters and mark scheyerer who believed that -- [ applause ] folks who believed that rescuing america's most iconic industry was the right thing to do. and today, thanks to your grit and ingenuity and dogged determination, the american auto industry's engines are roaring again and we are building the best cars in the world again. and some plants are running three shifts around the clock, something nobody would have imagined just a few years ago. [ applause ] so i just had lunch with detroit's new mayor, mike
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duggan. he told me there's one thing that he wants everybody to know, is that detroit is open for business, and i have great confidence that he's going to provide the leadership that you need. really proud of him. the point is we've all had to buckle down, work hard, fight our way back these past five years. and in a lot of ways we are now better positioned for the 21st century than any other country on earth. this morning we learned our businesses in the private sector created more than 145,000 jobs last month, adding up to about 8.5 million new jobs over the past four years. [ applause ] our unemployment rate is now the lowest it's been since p before i was first elected. the companies across the country are saying they intend to hire
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even more folks in the months ahead. and that's why i believe this can be a breakthrough year for america. and i've come here today to sign a bill that hopefully means folks in washington feel the same way. instead of wasting time creating crises that impede the economy, we're going to have a congress that's ready to spend some time creating new jobs and new tons and positioning us for the future and making sure our young people can take advantage of that future. and that's important, because even though our economy has been growing for four years now, even though we've been adding jobs for four years now, what's still true, something that was true before the financial crisis, that's still true today, is that those at the very top of the economic pyramid are doing better than ever. but the average american's wages, salary, incomes, haven't risen in a very long time.
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a lot of americans are working harder and harder just to get by, much less get ahead, and that's been true since long before the financial crisis and the great recession. and so we've got to reverse those trends. we've got to build an economy that works for everybody, not just a few. we've got to restore the idea of opportunity for all people, the idea that no matter who you are, what you look like, where you came from, how you started out, what your last name is, you can make it if you're willing to take hard and take responsibility. that's the idea at the heart of this country. that's what's at stake right now. that's what we've got to work on. [ applause ] now, the opportunity agenda i laid out in my state of the union address is going to help us do that. it's an agenda built around four parts. number one, more new jobs.
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in american manufacturing, american energy, american innovation, american technology. a lot of what you're doing here at michigan state helps to spur on that innovation in all sorts of areas that can then be commercialized into new industries and to create new jobs. number two, training folks with the skills to fill those jobs. something this institution does very well. number three, guaranteeing access to a world-class education for every child, not just some. [ applause ] that has to be a priority. that means before they even start school we're working on pre-k that's high quality and gets our young people prepared and takes them all the way through college so that they can afford it and be out. number four, making sure our
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economy rewards honest work with money you can live on and savings you can retire on and health insurance that is there for you when you need it. [ applause ] now, some of this opportunity agenda i put forward will require congressional action. it's true. but as i said at the state of the union, america does not stand still. neither will i. that's why over the past two weeks i've taken steps without legislation, without congressional action to expand opportunity for more families. we created a new way for workers to start their own retirement savings. we've helped to make sure all of our students have high speed broadband and high-tech learning tools they need for this new economy. but i've also said i'm eager to work with congress wherever i can. because the truth of the matter is that america works better
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when we're working together. and congress controls this the pursestrings at the federal level and a lot of things that we need to do require congressional action. and that is why i could not be prouder of our leaders who are here today. in particular, i could not be prouder of your own debbie stavanaugh, who has done just extraordinary work. so we all love debbie far lot of reasons. she's been a huge champion of american manufacturing. but, you know, really shepherded it through this farm bill, which was a very challenging piece of business. she worked with republican senator thad cochran, who i think was very truktive in this process. we had representatives frank lucas, a republican, working with collin peterson, a
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democrat. we had a terrific contribution from our own secretary of agriculture, tom vilsack, who deserves a big round of applause. [ applause ] congress passed a bipartisan farm bill that is going to make a big difference in communities all across this country. and just so they don't feel left out, i want to recognize one of your congressman who's doing an outstanding job, dan keelding. and somebody who was just a wonderful mentor to me when i was in the senate and has been just a great public servant not just for your state but for the entire country, carl levitt. he's always out there. especially when it comes to our men and women in uniform. we're very proud of him.
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and while we're at it, pat leahy from vermont. there are a lot of dairy farms up there. andy klobucar from minnesota. all that cold air is blowing from minnesota down into -- now, despite its name, the farm bill is not just about helping farmers. secretary vilsack calls it a jobs bill, an innovation bill, an infrastructure bill, a research bill, a conservation bill. it's like a swiss army knife. it's like mike trout. it's like for those of you who know baseball. it's somebody who's got a lot of tools and multitasks.
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it creates more jobs. first, the farm bill lifts up our world communities. over the past five years, thanks to the hard work and know-how of america's farmers, the best in the world, we've had the strongest stretch of farm exports in our history. when i'm traveling around the world, i'm promoting american agriculture and as a consequence we are selling more stuff to more people than ever before. 1 million american jobs, what we grow here and what we sell is a huge boost to the entire economy but particularly the rural economy. here at michigan state, by the way, you are helping us to do even more. i just got a tour of a facility where you're working with local businesses to produce renewable fuels. you're helping farmers grow
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crops that are healthier and more resistant to disease. some students are even raising their own pig lets on an organic farm. when i was in college, i lived in a pig sty but i didn't work in one. i'm impressed by that. that's no joke, by the way. your hygiene improves as you get older. so we're seeing some big advances in american agriculture. today i'm directing my administration to launch a new made in rural america issue to help sell more products made in the usa to the rest of the world because we have great products that need to be sold and we can do even more to sell around the world.
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ooichen with this progress, too many rural americans are still struggling and 85% of counties experience what's called persistent poverty. those are in rural areas. before i was elected president i represented illinois, home of a cup ol of your big ten rivals but also a big farming state. and over the years i've seen how hard it can be to be a farmer. already big producer whors doing well but there are family farms, folks scratching out a living, increasingly vulnerable to difficulties in financing and all the inputs involved. farmers sometimes having to work off the farm. they've got a couple of jobs outside the farm just to get health care, just to pay the bills. trying to keep it in the family.
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it's very hard for young farmers to get started. in these rural communities a lot of young people talk about how jobs are so scarce even before the recession hit they feel like they've got to leave in order to have opportunity. they can't stay at home. they've got to leave. that's why this farm bill includes things like crop insurns so that when a disaster like the record drought that we're seeing across much of the west hits our farmers they don't lose everything they've work sod hard to build. this bill helps rural communities by investing in hospitals and schools, affordable housing, broadband infrastructure, all the things that help attract more businesses and make life easier for working families. it supports cutting-edge biofuels like some of the work being done in michigan state. that has the potential to create jobs and reduce our dependence on foreign oil. it boosts conservation efforts so that our children and grandchildren will be able to enjoy places like the mississippi river valley and
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chesapeake pay. it supports local food by investing in things like farmer's marks and local agriculture, which is making my wife very happy. and when michelle's happy, i don't know about everybody being happy, but i know i'm happy. [ applause ] so it's giving smaller producers, local producers, the opportunity to sell more products directly without a bunch of processing and distributors and middlemen that make it hard for them to achieve. and it means that people are going to have healthier diets, which is in turn going to reduce incidents of childhood obesity and keeps us healthier, which saves us all money. it does all this while we're forming our agriculture program so, this bill helps to clamp down on loopholes that allows people to receive ben if i wants year after year whether they're
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planting crops or not, and it saves taxpayers hard-earned dollars by making sure we only support farmers when disaster strikes or prices drop. it's not just automatic. so that's the first thing this farm bill does. it helps rural communities xwroe. it gives farmers some certainty. it puts in place important reforms. the second thing this farm bill does that is huge is help make sure america's children don't go hungry. [ applause ] and this is where debbie's work was really important. one study show misser than half of all americans will experience poverty at some point during their adult lives. for most folks that's when you're young and eating ramen all the time. but for a lot of families it's, you know, a crisis hit, you lose your job, somebody gets sick, strains on your budget. you have a strong work ethic,
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but it might take you six months, nine months, a year to find a job. and in the meantime you've got families to feed. that's why for more than half a century this country has helped americans put food on the table when they hit a rough patch or when they're working hard but aren't making enough money to feed their kids. they're not looking for a handout, these folks. they're looking for a hand up, a bridge to help get them through some tough times. [ applause ] we sure don't believe that children should be punished when parents are having a tough time. as a country, we're stronger when we help hardworking americans get back on their feet, make sure that children are getting the nutrition they need so they can learn what they need in order to be contributing members of our society. that's the idea behind what's known as the supplemental
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nutrition assistance program, or s.n.a.p. a large majority of s.n.a.p. recipients are children or the elderly or americans wit s w ds disabilitie disabilities. a lot of others are hardworking american who is need just a little help feeding their families while they look for a job or they're trying to find a better one. in 2012, the s.n.a.p. program kept nearly 5 million people, including more than 2 million children, out of poverty. [ applause ] think about that. 5 million people. that's why my position has always been that any farm bill i sign must include protects for vulnerable americans, and thanks to the good work of debbie and others this bill does that. [ applause ] and by giving americans more bang for their buck at places like farmer's markets, we're making it easier for working
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families to eat healthy foods and we're supporting farmers like ben who make their living growing it. so it's creating new marks for produce farmers, it means that people have a chance to directly buy from their farmers the kind of food that's going to keep them healthy. the truth is a lot of folks go through tough times at some point in their lives. that doesn't mean they should go hungry. not in a country like america. so investing in the communes that grow our food, helping hardworking americans put that food on the table, that's what this farm bill does. all while reducing our deficits through smart reforms. it doesn't include everything that i'd like to see, and i know leaders on both sides of the aisle feel the same way, but it's a good sign that democrats and republicans in congress were able to come through with this bill, break the cycle of
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short-sighted, crisis-driven, partisan decisionmaking and actually get this stuff done. [ applause ] it's a good sign. and that's the way you should expect washington to work. that's the way washington should continue to work, because we of got more work to do. we've got more work to do to potentially make sure that unemployment insurance is put in place for a lot of folks out there who need it. we've got more work to do to pass a minimum wage. we've got more work to do to do immigration reform, which will help farmers like ben. so let's keep the momentum going here. and in the weeks ahead, while congress is deciding what's next, i'm going to keep doing everything i can to strengthen the middle class, build ladders of opportunity in the middle class. and i sure hope congress will join me because i know that's
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what you're looking for out of your elected officials at every level. so thank you, everybody. god bless you. i'm now going to sign this farm bill. [ applause ] >> president obama in east lansing, michigan, being flanked by senator levin there. they're about to sign the farm bill, a bill that has taken literally years to pass through both chambers of congress. president obama joined by one of the members of congress as well. before he spent about -- the speech sits was about 21 minutes. president obama spent the first part talking about income inequality, stagnant wages, also spent some time talking about obamacare as well. the back end of that speech he spent some time talking about immigration reform, calling on congress to act on the minimum
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wage, also calling on congress to extend unemployment benefits. nbc news senior political editor mark murray has been standing by. he's been watching and listening to this speech as well. i tell you, you listen to the president's speech. those are the same things that we've heard the president utter using his state of the union, the same things that we heard the president use in the days after the state of the union. he is very very much on message of late. >> that's right, craig. that also struck me about today's speech. it was almost as if he revisited some of the same themes from his state of the union address, of course a week later and talking act inequality, health care, but more importantly the economy at large. craig, this comes on a day in which there was a disappointing jobs report, the president talking about how still more needs to be done when it comes to the economy. the other thing that struck me was how he was talking act this was an instance where congress can come together. of course, as we know, 2013 wasn't a very productive year for congress. there was so much that did not
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end up happening. you begin 2014 the farm bill, in the past legislation that was pretty much easily passed on a bipartisan basis, in 2013 there were some hiccups that allowed for this late passage, but it was still a sign that, yes, democrats and republicans can come together, and that was a theme in the president's rashgs. craig, also don't forget the location of today's speech. michigan is to be the home of an important senate race, and so for the president being able to mention his and revisit the state of the union points in michigan i think probably makes some of the democrats watching the 2014 races a little bit happier. >> let's turn to another story making headlines as president obama leaves the podium in east lansing. word that senator rand paul, kentucky senator rand paul, doubling down now on comments that he made two weeks ago about bill clinton in an interview with c-span that is set to air on sunday. he is calling president clinton
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a predator again, telling democrats to protest against him. take a listen. >> anybody wants to take money from bill clinton or have a fund-raiser has a lot of explaining to do. in fact, i think they should give the money back. >> what's the thinking here, mark? what is this new bill clinton strategy that senator paul seems to have adopted? what's it about? >> it was first unveiled on "meet the press" when rand paul was on a couple weeks ago. i think it's a way for him to make splashy headlines. if he's going to be someone to run for the presidency, and we think he is on the list of potential folks to do, that one thing worth doing is being able to show you can stand up to the clintons and throw red meat to your conservative base. that's mission accomplished to rand paul on this front. now, some people might argue whether the wisdom of actually going back to the 1990s and resuscitating the entire lewinsky thing is a way to get you into the white house, let alone getting the republican nomination if you do end up
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winning, but it has created some headlines for him. we're talking about him. so i think he's pretty happy along those lines. democrats are responding back this is kind of a counter to the republican war on women. they say we're against the violence against women act and things like that. >> mark murray helping make sense of it all on a friday. thanks for the insight. >> thanks, craig. still ahead, day two of the trial of the former tampa bay police officer accused of shooting and killing someone inside a movie theater after a fight. surveillance video was released today. hey linda!
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with the 17-year-old jordan davis the night he was shot and killed. that followed testimony earlier today from another one of davis' friends who was inside that car. tef tevan describing what happened the night of november 23rd, 2012, and what led up to the shooting. >> did you see or hear anything the defendant said just before you saw the gun in his hand? >> yes, sir. >> what was that? >> "are you talking to me?" >> and who was the defendant talking to when he said "are you talking to me?" ? >> jordan. >> what did the defendant do with the gun when you saw it in his hand? >> he fired it. >> the jurors also heard from the first officers to arrive on the scene along with paramedics. one officer described the emotional scene that he encountered. >> i saw a young black male sitting on the driver's side rear passenger seat sobbing uncontrollably. he was cradling another young black male's head and the second
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black male was stretched out across the street. >> dunn is facing first-degree murder and attempted murder charges. he maintains the shooting was in self-defense. criminal defense attorney john burris joins me now. good to see you. leeland brunson, i want to go back to him, in the back seat of the durango next to jordan davis was just on the stand. i want to play another part of his testimony. this is him describing how he knew his friend had been shot. >> i called his name but he didn't respond so, i checked his body to see if he was hit. >> how did you check his body? >> i just pat him down on his upper body. >> did you touch anything that led you to believe he had been shot? >> yes. >> what? >> when i reached -- when i reached and touched him, blood appeared on my fingers. >> what's the prosecution trying to accomplish with that testimony? >> well, certainly the prosecution is trying to show just straight up that the kid
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was shot, partner in the back seat was cradling him, but the more important thing he wants to get out of that i assume is he did not have a gun, he did not try to put a weapon out, and thus tried to negate this whole sense of self-defense. right now he's just trying to show the corpus of the case, that is to say, a young man got shot, he died, his friend was cradling him, there's a lot of emotion involved in this. it's important to establish so the jury can see at the time this kid hadn't been doing anything that would justify being shot at and this person establishes just a basic format that he had been shot and he was there in the back seat and he was emotionally disturbed about what he was doing. >> another one of the teenagers, tevin thompson, also testified this morning. i want to play a little bit more of his testimony. this is him describing their encounter with michael dunn. >> did you ever hear jordan davis threaten the defendant in any way? >> no, sir. >> did you ever see jordan davis
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threaten the defendant in any way? >> no, sir. >> did you ever see anything in jordan davis' hands while he was talking to the defendant? >> no, sir. >> did you see or hear jordan davis attempt to get out of the durango at any point? >> no, sir. >> what does that do to the defense's case, joe? >> this is critical evidence on the part for the prosecution because essentially what he's doing is negating any issues of self-defense and certainly the reasonable perception that mr. dunn could have been in fear of his life because if the kid never got out of the car, never threatened him, never did anything of a serious nature and all you have is some verbal statement, a jury will say that's not a basis to pull out a gun and shoot the person because you didn't like what they had to say. essentially what the prosecution has done is basically undermined any real credibility in terms of the defendant's position. now, the defendant has got to have somebody to corroborate what he has said and so far that hasn't taken place. it certainly didn't take place with this witness. >> all right.
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drama in a courtroom in dade city, florida, where a bond hearing is under way for the tampa police officer accused of shooting and killing another man in a movie theater last month. 71-year-old curtis reeves has been in jail since that january 13th incident. he's charged with second-degree murder of chad olson. witnesses say the two men got into an argument in the theater, reeves and olson's widow have given conflicting accounts of what happened. nbc's kerry sanders has been following this for us and is live in miami. what's the latest here? >> good afternoon. this is the second day of a bond hearing, but it looks more like a trial. you can see in the courtroom the accused retired police captain curtis vooefs not handcuffed. the 71-year-old is not wearing a traditional orange inmate jump suit. he's been afforded the same accomodations as someone who is
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on trial before a jury. but there is just one question here. should reeves be allowed to bond out of jail as he awaits this trial? vooefs accused of second-degree murder in the killing of 40-year-old chad olson as you said after reeves is said to have been angry that olson was texting in the movie theater. now, in court today a video from an infrared camera of the altercation between the two men was shown to the judge. reeves told deputies he shot olson because he believed olson was threatening him with something more than just a bag of popcorn. here's what he told detectives during his initial interrogation. >> he said something about he was -- if there was any of your [ bleep ] i was texting my daughter or something like that. and stay the hell out of my face. i think that's what he said. and his wife was holding him back.
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so i sat down and i think i got the bag of popcorn from my wife and suddenly he jumps up and turns around and stands in his seat, which was [ inaudible ]. >> right. >> so as he's pushing on the back there's a crack between us. i'm leaning back in my chair. i got nowhere to go. i'm lean back in my chair so he kept on hollering, and i'm not sure what he said, to be honest with you. >> so he told deputies that he believed that he was going to be hit with something, something more than popcorn, likely olson's fist. the victim's wife, nicole olson weather her husband at the movie theater last month when he was shot, is also in the court. we expect the judge to make a decision on if reeves gets bond by the end of today. craig? >> all right, kerry sanders following it all for us from florida. kerry, thank you. that is going to do it for this edition of "news nation." i'm craig melvin. "the cycle is up next."
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moving parts. we're in michigan where the president spoke last hour to the corridors of power in washington and from wall street to main street, we've got it covered here on "the cycle." the president is in east lansing talking to washington and those struggling in this tough economy. >> if you have a strong work ethic but it might take you six months, nine months, a year to find a job, and in the meantime you've got families to feed. that's why for more than half a century this country has helped americans put food on the table when they hit a rough patch or when they're working hard but aren't making enough money to feed their kids. they're not looking for a handout, these folks. they're looking for a hand up. >> when 2014 began the dow jones
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industrial average was speeding towards 17,000. right now it's about 800 points lower even with the rally today. on this jobs report friday we learned the economy added a patry 113,000 jobs last month, about 70,000 below expectations. but the unemployment rate went from 6.7% to 6.6%. and all the bad weather we're having adds to the confusion over what's causing this. luckry we have not one but two experts to clear it up. our dynamic duo of jared bernstein and peter morici. jared, we have this 6.6% unemployment rate now, but that doesn't really tell the whole story, does it. >> no. i mean, last month we were sitting here saying we expected 2,000 jobs. we ended up with 74,000. this month we expected 180,000. we ended up with 113,000. we thought that december number, that 74,000, that patry december number, would be revised up. it was revised up from 74,000 to 75,000. so i'm beginning to think like
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