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>> now, watch up close as these lethal plans unfold, then unravel. >> so you want him gone. not walking the earth anymore. >> i want her dead. >> "caught on camera" presents the hit man tapes. >> where did you put her? >> in the lake. >> four minutes, that's the amount of surveillance footage law enforcement needs to build a case against patrick shamorei, a 28-year-old real estate agent described by family and friends in shar lots vfl, virginia, as a gentle but misguided soul, and by a u.s. attorney as a meticulous criminal. >> on the tape he is cold, he is dispassionate, he is focused on his goal. and that is of having his wife eliminated out of his life.

>> disgraced everything. disgraced herself, family, me, you. >> how did she disgrace me? >> everything she touched, man, she wrecks people. >> i'm not a psychologist, but psychopaths have a lack of empathy. things that trigger in us a more human reaction, a sympathetic reaction, psychopathy eliminates that. >> you really want her gone? >> mm-hmm. >> when you watch his face, when you listen to his voice, there is no conflict or remorse whatsoever. >> yeah, you got that cold. >> patrick captured on an fbi surveillance camera is a far different man from the one seen on his facebook page. snuggling with his wife, starla knight, alongside virginia's blue ridge parkway. >> obviously he was struggling with some demons of his own. >> assistant u.s. attorney nancy

healy -- >> and something made him snap. >> patrick, a former boy scout from washington state, meets starla while both are serving in virginia's langley air force base. >> i loved him. he was a sweetheart. >> starla's mother, re jeana knight, has fond memories of the couple's 2004 wedding. >> it was a beautiful day. i thought he really loved my daughter. he was a very caring son-in-law. >> after the air force, patrick and starla move into this kondo complex. she takes a job as a lab technician on the historic grounds of the university of virginia. he begins working at keller williams realty. >> patrick was quickie and funny and nice. >> fellow sales associate ellen pratt. >> i was as shocked as anyone could be at the final outcome of his story. >> we believe around the end of

2008, beginning in 2009, they started having some marital strife. mr. shamorei was saying she was not acting as she had before. there were some allegations that she had been going through money very quickly. at some point they decided to take a trip down to new orleans. i think that was sort of an attempt to see whether they could make the marriage work. and from what i understand, the trip to new orleans was actually fairly successful. >> patrick chronicles the journey on facebook, describing this playful photo with the caption, good thing starla didn't see this. despite the innocent facade, patrick and starla are exploring the transgregss of the big easy. a mission that eventually leads them to the men prosecutors come to label witness number one. >> his wife had found him randomly, as we understand, and tried to get him to buy what i believe was cocaine at that time. >> not only does the witness

claim the best places to purchase the drug, he introduces himself under a cousin's alias. >> that was the name he used originally with shamorei and his wife. so there were some issues with identity theft. >> patrick says the witness tells an erroneous tale about the recent deaths of his fiancee and two children. >> mr. shamorei and his wife had taken pity on the witness. the witness returned to charlottesville to live with them for a while. >> why is it that you hang out with in a bar in new orleans for a few days suddenly becomes your roommate thousands of miles away. that suggests perhaps that there's some void that needs to be filled, but again, i think the temptation in these cases is to try to come up with some kind of veneer of rationality. >> the couple doesn't intend to remain in charlottesville. patrick quits his job anticipating a permanent move to new orleans.

>> they come and told me they was going to move to new orleans. they were going to sell everything and go to new orleans. they would go open up a restaurant down there. >> in the interim, i believe they developed more marital problems, so that plan disintegrated. >> as the marriage dissolves, the condo becomes the scene of a seemingly endless stream of parties. >> it does sound like at some point both of them engaged in some extramarital sexual relationships. >> eventually, starla returns to new orleans alone, moving in with friends she made during the trip. patrick informs his mother-in-law about the turn of events. >> he just told me that things was over between them. i never thought that i would love him for a son-in-law, because he was such a sweet guy. >> the apartment is now the exclusive domain of patrick, and the man he met in new orleans.

>> cooking was obviously a big part of his story. i believe at some point patrick got completely grandiose and thought that he was ready to be king of the cocaine world. start his own cartel. >> police say patrick also becomes convinced he needs his house guest to murder starla. >> they discuss the terms, which includes giving him approximately $1,200 for travel expenses, as well as a place to live, the condo, and when the condo was to be sold, then an apartment, and also the idea of starting up a drug business, a drug distribution business. >> patrick will spearhead the operation he promises, using underworld associates he claims to have in the state capital of richmond. >> we don't have any evidence that he had a lot of contacts in the drug world. on the scale of murders for hire, this was not one very sophisticated. he didn't know this man very well.

had no reason to really trust him with something so significant. >> but patrick cannot imagine the depth of his miscalculation, as the two listen to music and discuss the plot, the witness pulls out a crude audio recorder and turns it on. >> i'm going to kill the -- >> i can live with that. >> patrick never realizes he's being recorded. >> you want me to kill her? >> kill her. >> you can live with that? >> kill her. >> you're saying kill her? >> kill her. >> kill her? >> kill her. >> don't look at me crazy. you're looking me in my eyes. you want me to kill her. >> handle it. >> i think the tapes fairly show that the witness gave mr. shamorei an out. you really want me to do this? yes. >> you're asking me to do this, i'll do this.

i don't want you in five, ten years tripping me. this is my life, man. >> no, man. >> i mean, it's my life, man. >> got that. it's mine, too, man. >> come on, man, you know i'm solid. >> i do. >> the witness is talking about something shocking, and the witness, i think, understandably is trying to confirm that mr. shamorei isn't joking. so there is repetition. mr. shamorei consistently says, kill the bitch, kill the bitch, kill the bitch. >> kill sharla. that's not the person that i married. i married somebody else.

>> he does characterize this in military terms. >> i've been a warrior for a long time. i've got the heart of a warrior, man. i've seen [ bleep ] casualties. >> he does talk about her as a casualty in a larger war. and it's not clear to me who the person is on the opposite side of that war. it is a war of him versus her. >> you want me to kill her? >> mm-hmm. kill her. kill starla. >> he is making crystal clear by using the full name, that he wants this person dead. no uncertainty, no confusion, he wants this done. >> what patrick doesn't realize is the plan to sacrifice his wife will lead to the forfeiture of his freedom when the witness lures his new friend directly into the path of an fbi surveillance camera. >> i killed your wife.

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literally hunt her down. >> he goes to new orleans with the $1,200, and rather than commit the murder he's been solicited to commit, he goes to starla and says, hey, check this out, patrick wants me to kill you. he plays for her the actual recorded conversation. and patrick does make this solicitation. >> and he was no more of a hitman than patrick was. i don't think he ever had any intention or knowledge of how to carry this out. >> shortly thereafter, he walks into the local fbi office, and talks with a couple of the agents that are there, and provides the tape to them. >> i've been a warrior for a long time. i've got the heart of a warrior, man. i've seen [ bleep ] casualties. >> it's good to make sure that the witness hadn't tampered with the tape such that they're only capturing one little specific part of a tape out of context. >> the witness is instructed to meet patrick at his new

girlfriend's home in nearby green county to discuss the murder plot. and videotape the entire exchange with a hidden camera. >> the technology is unbelievable now. a button camera, it literally blends into the size of a buttonhole. the lens is actually a little smaller than the buttonholes. the button is laying on someone's stomach, who is maybe a little bit larger stomach, so naturally the shirt will protrude up. so what you're looking for is to get a glimpse of your perpetrator. >> the idea was to have the witness say, okay, i did what you asked me to do. and to confirm that's what was desired. so the witness went in some detail about how he supposedly killed mr. shemorry's wife. >> one pop. one pop. and then it was over.

i had the trunk ready for her. >> where did you put her remains? >> the lake. tied her up. >> he's told that his wife has been killed by the witness. he doesn't react. in a histrionic way. he reacts dispassionately. he looks completely satisfied and completely focused that his wife needed to be eliminated. >> i killed your wife. >> you did what you had to do, man. >> no, i did it. >> damn strong. >> the witness does a pretty good job here. the camera doesn't move. but there are long stretches where it's looking right up at mr. shemorry. >> you really wanted her gone. >> yeah.

>> i asked you that. >> yeah. >> the witness asks him straight out, so you really wanted me to do this. and i think it corroborated exactly what was recorded on the prior nonlaw enforcement sponsored audiotape that the witness had made. >> yeah. yeah, you got that cold. >> a lot of times people -- this is just human nature, when you're in a conversation trying to elicit information from someone, you have a tendency to talk for them, or finish their sentences. that is ineffective as a matter of evidence. it's important to let the target do the talking. >> disgraced everything. disgraced herself, family, me, you. >> how did she disgrace me. >> everything she touched, man, she wrecks people. >> it would not have been nearly as effective as a matter of proof for the witness to say, i

killed starla, isn't that great. and patrick shemorry nods his head. what was crucial for patrick shemorry out of his own mouth to voice intent. >> okay, i did my part, now i'm ready to be paid. i think it completes the whole plan of a murder for hire, or a murder for some type of consideration. >> can i get paid? >> yeah, man, i'll get it to you. >> let's do it now. >> according to their agreement, patrick is supposed to take advantage of contacts he allegedly has in the state capital of richmond to set up the purported hitman in the marijuana trade. >> we're going to richmond to get ten pounds. >> going to richmond?

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>> green county, virginia, 2009. 28-year-old patrick shemorry is caught on tape listening impasseively to an apparent hitman boasting about completing an assignment, the assassination of patrick's estranged wife, starla knight. friends and relatives are baffled over the description of the soft-spoken real estate agent as the architect of a murder for hire scheme. >> mr. shemorry does not fit the profile of a killer. >> where did you put her remains? >> in the lake. tied her up. >> mm-hmm. >> as the man prosecutors call witness number one records him with a hidden camera, patrick reacts with calculated detachment, proof authorities say the air force veteran truly wanted his wife killed.

>> i don't know why he didn't consider divorce instead of murder. maybe there was some sort of worry or fantasy involved. maybe there's something deeper inside of him that preferred the violent option. maybe there was a level of emotion against her. >> he maintains he's feigning nonchalance because he's scared of the man who murdered starla and threw her in the lake. >> i still talk to him. >> starla's mother, regina knight, believes her son-in-law. >> we were pretty much his parents, and me, both in the dark about what went on. it's like, you know, it's like something you see in a movie is the way i look at it. it just seems like it's not him in that video.

>> i tell you, i wish she hadn't been found. >> mr. shemorry's wife's family appreciated him, liked him, thought he was a good man. but there are so many defendants who come before a court who have convinced everybody that they don't have a mean bone in their body. >> even so, patrick opts not to go to trial. >> he pled guilty to essentially murder for hire. he got 9 1/2 years. we knew that we had the defendant himself on camera talking about the murder of his wife. that was unimpeachable. we knew we were bargaining from a position of strength. >> prosecutors are not considering the subtleties of his story. his marriage falls apart when starla becomes, in his words, a danger to herself and others. >> a disgrace. disgraced everything. disgraced herself, family, me, you.

>> i don't know how she disgraced me. >> everything she touched, man, she wrecks people. >> even after starla leaves and relocates to new orleans, patrick maintains it's the witness who orchestrates the plot. in a letter to msnbc, patrick writes, he spoke of killer women who came to murder their exes. he had through manipulations made starla into a clear and present danger and then projected himself as the solution. i eventually submitted to his way of thinking and agreed to the crime. >> it's hard to know exactly what happened, who put that idea out there. but from what the tapes show, mr. shemorry was dead-set on seeing this accomplished. >> starla did not respond to msnbc's interview request. but regina knight says she

forgiv forgives patrick. >> i just felt like the lord was in control, so why should i be angry. he didn't kill my daughter. that's the blessing of it. >> patrick accepts his fate, taking up painting as well as teaching yoga and meditation to other inmates in prison. >> he doesn't argue that he's innocent. he is chagrinned, embarrassed, so sorry. and wanting to get out and live the life that he should have been living all along. >> is there a lesson? there's probably a lot of lessons, if you have a plan to kill your wife. you better know your friends. >> with all the technology, with all of the ability we have to record conversations, it's still oftentimes comes down to old-fashioned witness identification. >> oh, yeah.

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collapsed and a convoy delivering aid came under fire. now back to "caught on camera." let me tell you what my husband did to me. >> so you want him gone? not walking the earth anymore? >> if it's an accident, i'd love it. if you're taping me -- >> maybe you're taping me. you could be a cop. >> i could. my father's a cop. >> you kind of look like a cop. >> long island, new york. march 3rd, 2010. susan williams, a mother of four in the affluent community of garden city pauses to contemplate the consequences of her actions, looking directly into the camera of an undercover vehicle some 30 miles from midtown manhattan. >> the tape tells the whole story. >> he's a schmuck.

and i'm like, this is going on forever. >> susan called her husband a schmuck when she was talking to the undercover detective. it's a derogatory term here. if you listen to her tone, the way she said it was so -- like she hates him. >> you want him dead? >> god, i don't want to say it. you said it. >> do you want him dead? >> i schmeared this too. sorry. >> that means there's nothing but that line, think of that tire mark on the ground and everything else is pulverized. that's the schmered. >> susan's animosity has intensified over time. she and peter marry in 1989. peter builds a business, installing fences and delivering dumpsters, ascending socially and financially and purchasing a home worth $2 million.

>> when you start to peel back the layers of the onion, you had two people who were incredibly unhappy. there were discretions in their marriage and they were going through an incredibly acrimonious divorce. and one of the players just decided to take it to a level that you don't see very often. >> he had a cash business. his fencing business. and now suddenly there's no money when they go to divide up the money. that's what was making her angry. >> in 2008, susan contacted joel labella. an undercover detective from new york city now working as a private investigator on long island. he meets susan at the carl place diner near her home where she makes an allegation about her husband's habits. >> she was getting beat up in divorce court. she wanted me to drum up some dirt on her husband. she said that he's an alcoholic. he could easily polish off a case of beer a day, if not two. she said that her kids are young, and that they're in the car with him.

>> labella begins tailing peter's car. one night he spots an intoxicated peter swerving between lanes and phones 911. >> i notified susan they placed him under arrest for dwi. she was ecstatic. job well done, great. you know, praising me up and down. >> peter pleads not guilty and the case is still pending. either way, the arrest does little to solve susan's divorce issues, and a year and a half later she summons him to labellea again to carl's diner. >> she leans over and is like, i want him to disappear. you know? and it didn't really register with me right away. i'm like, disappear? can you elaborate? what do you mean, disappear? and she's like i want him gone. i want him erased out of my life. i was told you're the man to get this done. i'm like, you mean like you want a whack? and she kind of nodded the head. she said yeah, if that's how you say it.

i called up a friend in the d.a.'s office. and i'm like, listen, i've got a problem. >> anytime someone comes to us with something like this, the first thing we do is take a step back. we went to the carl's place diner. we have to start trying to confirm what joe labella told us. we did get video because the diner has video of everyone coming in and out. he's a former police officer, so he came to us and said not a problem. i'll wear the wire and go in and talk to her. and we said no. that's not how we want this to work. >> instead, the district attorney's office instructs labella to phone susan and say he's passing her off to a hit man. an actual nassau county detective with 20 years experience. >> i felt he was the right choice because i don't think a susan williams would speak as readily to someone who looked like, you know, a drug addict from the street. she wanted somebody who had a little more class.

>> detectives listen in to the phone conversation. >> what you doing? >> oh, i'm going to pick up my son. i'm taking him to choir practice. >> doesn't that sound like fun? >> you know, we try to be good little catholics. >> she's making a joke about taking her kids to choir practice and we're good catholics but yet she's plotting a murder. the murder of the man she's been married to, the father of her children. >> you still want to move forward? >> yeah. >> all right. very good. i have a buddy of mine that i reached out to that old school guy, very good. >> you can hear my voice and, like, i'm talking about, hey, we're going to do this. don't worry about it. we'll take care of it. we've done this before. he's [ bleep ] crazy. >> during the prior conversation, labella has told susan there are two choices. murder or a less pricey alternative he calls option "b." >> i said, what do you want? bash his brains in, have him

sipping through a straw in the hospital in a coma? she said, that would be nice. >> there's no turning back now. >> i understand that. >> either option "a" or option "b." you understand those right? >> yeah. >> kick that around. digest that. please, you know, don't speak to -- don't even look in the mirror and speak to yourself. >> i would say that was his dramatic flourish. we can't, you know, script what people say. we try to tell them to keep it simple, to the point -- that was just his personality. >> we'll have coffee, me and a friend of mine and you. then we'll move forward from there. >> okay. sounds good. >> all right sweetie? >> all right. thanks so much. >> all right, baby. >> i said that is something that the defense attorney is going to cross you on. sweetie? honey? he said, that's my way. i call everybody honey. except me. because i think he was afraid of me. >> authorities want labellea to

bring susan to the diner. but they asked her to lead her to a parking lot across the street and turn her over to the alleged hitman as detectives watch from a nearby vehicle. the undercover uses the pseudonym nick. >> hi. how are you? >> hi. >> nick, sue. sue, nick. i will not be too far away. okay? >> sure. >> the introductions go smoothly until investigators realize the video camera inside the undercover's car isn't working. >> this is the world that you live in. you hope for the best, but sometimes you come up a little short. but we were lucky in this case to be able to back that up with enough audio to evaluate the substance of what the conversation was. >> i'm in a nasty divorce. my husband is, um -- he beats the [ bleep ] out of me. i'm afraid to talk. can you tell? >> if there was any thought they could be being taped they would not engage in this kind of crime. but she kept going ahead, even

after making reference to the fact she might be being taped. >> i'd like him to be hurt. i can't afford it. that's really where i stand. >> her biggest concern was if he ends up dead from a bullet in his head, they're going to look for me. because everybody knows we have this awful contentious divorce. so can't we make it look like an accident? >> he's in an accident, and he ends up dead, i'm great. >> if you want him dead, it's going to be $20,000. >> that's it? all right. >> she's expressing surprise at the fact that it was cheaper to have her husband killed than she thought it was. >> i want a picture of him, but not a prom picture. >> in order to prove the crime of conspiracy, you need an overt act. if she pays him, giving him the photo with the action to find

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sometimes it's at the same level. >> you're looking at security cam video of joe labella, a former detective turned private investigator and susan williams, a mother of four from the tony community of garden city, new york. at a diner near her home. it's here while her neighbors order cheeseburgers and platters that susan asks labella to kill her estranged husband peter. >> this was something i really wasn't prepared for. >> after contacting the nassau county district attorney's office, labella introduces susan to an undercover detective posing as a hitman. >> hi, susan. >> nice to meet you. >> i said to the detective if she feels like she can trust you, then she'll open up and talk to you. if she doesn't, then she might get out of the car and walk away. >> on march 3rd, 2010, in eisenhower park in the town of east meadow, the camera rolls as

detectives monitor the exchange from a number of surveillance vehicles nearby. >> i haven't been sleeping. i'm like, am i crazy? >> you have the nervousness. you have the obvious picture of someone who's never done this before. doesn't mean they're not capable of doing it. >> let met tell you what my husband did to me. he gave me hpv and it turned into cervical cancer. they ripped everything out, i can't have any more children. >> how did he give you cancer? >> because he was screwing around and got hpv. it was sitting in me for three years. >> so she did fight cancer. but there was no way to connect that he gave it to her because she was having affairs and she was living a wilder lifestyle than she let on. it could have happened, you know, in any number of ways. >> i might have met somebody and wanted to have a child. and now i can't. >> she really gives an awful lot

of herself away. it's almost as if she's going through this purging or she's going through this kind of trip down the memory lane of her life. >> thinking aloud, susan wonders whether she should pick option "a" murder or a less expensive debilitating injury they term option "b." >> if he's hurt, my kids are going to go crazy. they're going to feel bad for him. he's going to hire more attorneys because he's so angry. either way it's not -- you know, i know it's tough in the end. but they'll get over it. >> she doesn't even say, oh, my children will be without their father. she just says, he's not in his life. they'll get over it. >> i could do like a car accident. >> yeah. what's the guarantee? >> here's the thing. you got to tell me about him and about his habits. >> susan alleges that her husband has a drinking problem. >> if it's an accident, i'd love it. >> an accident. >> i think she had a vision of what her new life was going to be.

no more money problems. she'd have his life insurance money. no more divorce problems or fighting in court. she'd have everything. >> i don't have any emotions. i do, but i don't. >> you're scaring me. >> but it's the detective's gentle manner that's starting to worry deputy chief district attorney and donnelly. >> isn't she going to turn around and say, this person is supposed to be capable of killing someone. he seems too nice. i kept thinking you have to be a hard person. i said to the detective you don't have to be so nice. he says nice works for me. and it did, obviously. >> you ever do this before? >> no. >> oh. >> i know. i should have been a policeman. i was going to be a policewoman. >> she's asking him to do this terrible thing, but she has to make herself look good. i come from a law enforcement family. i almost became a police officer. i'm not really a bad person. >> susan, you want to walk away from me, have a good life, see you later, that's fine. i don't give a rat's ass either

way. >> no, i don't. i would love -- i would love to just do this and get it done. i'm going crazy. i want to make sure that when the cops come to my house, i l >> i just want to make sure when the cops come to my house, i know the proper expression and what not to say and what to say when they come to me. that's what i think about. >> she's actually thinking about, do i look sad? how do i act? she's obviously thought about this day after day, night after night, of how she's going to pull off this whole sad widow and on with her new life. >> yet as guilty as susan sounds, police say she hasn't done enough to be placed under arrest. investigators will remain patient because they understand she plans to continue talking. >> if i could do it myself, i would. ♪ ♪

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march 3rd, 2010. a parking lot in eisenhower park on long island. about 30 minutes from midtown manhattan. >> looks like you want him gone, not walking the earth anymore? okay. what do you got? >> i just have a picture. >> susan williams, a mother of four, meets with an undercover detective posing an assassin for hire. the intended target -- susan's estranged husband, peter williams. >> you should cut yourself out of that picture. >> she gives him that photo and in her mind the murder is as good as happened. and she took such care to write the information on the back and explain it to the detective. >> what's on the back here? >> i put his birthday so you could see you hold he is. >> authorities are hesitant to charge her with crime until they

see money changing hands. >> i should give you money? >> yes. hundreds, huh? one, two, three, four, five. >> you want it in ones? >> no. are they real? are they dry yet? >> detectives were always told to count the money so you can hear it. it's not going to be done obviously today or tomorrow. it's not going to be done for a while. >> what's going through his mind is, we don't want her to try to contact someone else to do this if it doesn't happen. hey, it's been 24 hours, i haven't heard he's been run over. >> detectives allow susan to leave the scene. >> all right. >> see you later. >> it's a much easier and calmer arrest process, we're here to talk to you, as opposed to everyone converginconverging. in she drives away, now we have a chase, which is a situation we don't want. >> within 24 hours, susan is

picked up at her $2 million house in prosperous garden city, new york. but as jailhouse tapes reveal, she and her 20-year-old daughter alexis have come up with a plan to undermine the case. >> we find out that there was a change to peter's insurance policy. a forgery. but it took place. those papers are in her house. that's what she's asking her daughter to go in the house and get. >> it was so disturbing to hear a young girl be proud of all of the things that she did and getting -- i got this, mom,

he'll never know, and it's great. it shows such a level of clear distinction in that family. >> alexis is never charged with any crime. >> susan should know authorities are listening, but it apparently makes no difference, and the version of susan williams who faces jurors later that year, seems overwhelmed by the preponderance of tape. >> i want it done as soon as possible. >> the tape was the center of the trial. we should show the clip where she said, if you're taping me, i'm screwed. and that showed she knew what she was doing was wrong. >> susan's defense counters that joe labella, the private investigator, learns about the plot during the meter with susan

at this long island diner. >> there was no instance that you could buy into the fact that she was entrapped in this case. >> this is his business address. this is what he drives. >> most of what you hear comes out of susan williams' wife. >> if it's an accident, i would love it. >> but as labela, a former detective, sits through the trial and watches susan on tape, he has second thoughts about the case. >> my brother is an aviation policeman. >> i swear to god, god is my jung, if i knew she had family on the job, new york city cops, i couldn't be sitting here telling you this story today. i would have went to her father or brother and i would have said look, cop to cop, your sister, your daughter is looking to do something. you've got to talk to her. but i never knew. >> in november 2010, susan is convicted of conspiring to

murder her husband, as well as possession of a forged instrument. >> it's a shame. one minute you're saying i do and it's beautiful and one day you wake up and it goes to [ bleep ]. >> he's not going to be living anymore. >> do people ignore the fact that they're being taped in these situations? i don't know if they ignore the fact or they don't want to believe it. >> i don't have any emotions. i do but i don't. i would just love to get this done. >> they want so much for this outcome to happen that they don't want to believe that this person could be taping it. >> if he's in an accident and ends up dead, i'm great. >> if you want him dead, it's going to be $20,000. >> that's it? all right. .

murder for hire plots, caught on camera. >> we're talking about murder here. >> i know we are. >> in north carolina, a preschoolteacher asks a stranger to throw her husband into a power line. >> i know i'm a cold hearted bitch, but life's life. >> if you listen to her story, married, kids, she's everyone's next door neighbor. >> and in new york, a businessman tries using murder to end his marriage. >> the only thing i could say about him is