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. so earlier on the shareholdshow we asked you the following. >> oh, my god, baek becky. look at my score. it is so low. >> do it again? >> oh, my god, becky. >> thanks, gang. happy monday. that is the end of "way too early" "morning joe" starts right now. ♪ monday morning you sure look fine ♪ ♪ friday i got traveling. on my mind ♪ >> good morning. it is monday, february 10th.
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is it really? that just hurts. >> why does it hurt? >> feels like it should be late january easement we a january. it is five days from pitchers and catchers reporting. >> with us on set, we have former treasury official steve rattner. msnbc contributor mike barnicle. the host of "way too early" thomas roberts. >> how is it going? >> morning. >> everybody all right? >> yeah. >> steve rattner, in a few minutes, will explain why he has finally fallen in love with america and how i helped him. >> i have to you take to you about something. former white house press secretary and msnbc contributor robert gibbs with us in washington. how is everyone doing today? >> great. >> you did a great show "way too early." >> a lot of stuff going on last
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night. any of you guys see paul and ringo? >> yes. i read some of their reviews on the first appearance on "the ed sullivan show." >> they are never going to make it. too wild. >> i read a lot of that stuff. it was kind of cool to go back there. >> i also love the -- the guy that rejected them famously said from the record deal, guitars are on their way out. how was your weekend? happened? >> nothing. my pajamas were wrinkled. how was your weekend? >> i was so busy. i went to the knicks game. >> did you? how was that? did they win? >> yes, they did. the second time i've gone and they won. i saw -- there were celebrities there. >> who did you see there? >> i saw seth myers.
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i saw christie brinkley and inted to talk to her but she was getting accosted in the bathroom by people. i felt so bad for her. >> how was she? >> so nice. >> who else did you see? >> woody allen. >> i did not. >> he's a regular. >> oh, no. i think there was an issue, actually. there was an issue. >> he is busy right now. >> he got kicked out. >> kicked out. >> who else did you see? >> katie couric. she was with my friend's son. >> who did i say? who? >> we will talk about it later. >> kevin bacon. he has a show and is coming on the show. >> this is prafg imprafg. i embarrassed my party. >> did you do anything? >> he looked at his shoes. >> everybody looked down at their shoes like poor mika.
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>> she had no idea. >> he is going to come on. i am going to call his person ellis. >> you've been so nice to him, right? >> and bill o'reilly was there. >> oh, really? >> was he nice? >> yeah. he was nice. >> tell me the truth. was he nice? >> i was telling him about his interview with the president. >> how was he back to you? was he nice to you? >> i think he felt that i babbled too much. >> was he nice to you, yes or no? >> i think he was like christie brinkl brinkley, tired of people coming up to him. >> that is bill. like bill is not a chatter. >> no. >> who he is. >> no. he just that -- there is sometimes one way on tv, i don't know. >> he sgoing to do whis going t going to do. >> it was like a who's who. >> stars. >> woody allen.
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>> don't start me. >> he wrote this thing on friday and i'm just curious, what did you think of it? >> rattner. >> are you asking me? >> yeah. >> mika, you don't want to talk? >> i'll talk. >> what do you think about wood with allen's defense? >> i came away thinking two sides to every story. i think woody allen and mia farrow are a little unusual. artistic. i really have no idea what happened between them. >> one thing i thought about reading it, the guy should have least said, i understand. i get married. >> thank you. >> at the very least it doesn't make him a child molester. >> literally, he said that. >> you know what? this happens. i'm okay on, you're okay, you snow so i married somebody else who happened to be my -- >> my girlfriend's -- >> my wife's adopted daughter. i think that would have made the piece stronger for him.
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>> it's a totally dysfunctional family, that part it clear. now when you lead read it, you become involved in the dysfunction of this family which makes the reader uncomfortable. to steve's point there are two sides and especially to stories like this. whether you believe woody allen or you believe mia farrow or dylan farrow, that's up to you but wot woody allen will not sa understand the bitterness what i did to create this. >> i think he talks directly to the fact that he believes that dylan believed this happened. >> that was very generous of him. >> this is the way she has grown up and understands this monstrous event played out in the public eye and it wasn't enough to go on and continue.
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it is sad. >> there was some weird stuff in there if you believe woody allen the part i'm about to describe where even after mia knew him him and son ye, they began to portray as a couple in public and you say that's not how i think probably the five of us around the set would have reacted to those circumstances. >> what did you think? >> i thought it was incredibly arrogantly written and i think that he somehow perceives himself to be a victim. >> i absolutely does. >> and that is crazy and he has to take some responsibility for whatever happened and i guess we will never know. i've let this table know my opinion. everybody has an opinion. it's really none of our business but, my god, at some point, if you don't take responsibility for the reaction people have to the actions in your life and the pain that you might have caused,
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then it's kind of hard to believe you. i have a hard time believing him. >> let's go to thes in. new jersey's biggest paper has a case of buyer's remorse. now the editor say, quote, we blew this one. and some gop candidates are steering clear of him as well. governor christie heads to chicago tomorrow for a republican governor's associations fund-raiser but none of the four candidates from his party plan to attend. meanwhile, over the weekend, politico reported that a tough rebuke of resigned port authority official david wildstein was never actually read by the governor himself. how is that possible? >> mike, that's not possible. >> how is that possible? >> is that possible? >> well, apparently it is possible. he claims he never saw it, which i think would eliminate him from being a candidate for the president of the united states, that this stuff is going on at
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the staff level. the staff is so amateur. >> i don't believe that. >> you don't believe that he -- >> i don't believe he didn't see it. i think it -- chris -- i think some unnamed whoever? no way he didn't see it. if he didn't see it, it causes some extraordinarily difficult situations like last week, we had a "the new york times" reporter on here. i still can't believe that a governor as the busiest bridge in the world going through his state and he has no idea until he reads about it in "wall street journal" even though he said he read it earlier in another paper. i still take him at his word that he didn't know about the retribution stuff but he's just digging himself a deeper hole. please. don't tell me that he don't know about this hit job on wildstein. >> well, look. either way, it's a terrible outlook. either way he didn't know and he
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has this hard to believe this idea that this stuff going out from his office -- or he did know and he authorizes a hit job going back to the guy's high school yerars and the rest of this stuff. >> i go back to the governor didn't know the world's busiest bridge was shut down. everybody else in the tri-state area knew. it was being reported. i think he said before he read bergen county. let's talk politics for a second. so this newspaper that has retracted their endorsement always hated him. he doesn't care about that. what he does care about, though, is when you have news reports that four congressmen are running from him and don't want to campaign with him in the heartland, that for chris christie is the bad news. that has to be turned around.
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"the star ledger" has always hated him. >> i wonder how many stops he has made since the initial allegations on the bridge came out that involved he and his staff? how many of those trips have the candidates in the states he has traveled to actually showed up publicly for an event with him? i think the answer is zero. i know he has been to florida and last week in texas and this week, he's in illinois. you do have to wonder does he have any idea what is happening in his office and how many times can you play the card of, "i had no idea this was going on in my own office." >> robert, it's getting to the point he is starting to sound like barack obama. i had no idea until i read about it in the paper, whether it was t the a.p. or fox or nsa. >> critical of chris christie
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and now we have reached it. >> what is it with these politicians? >> i am, barnicle, sorry to rudely cut off robert there. what irritated a lot of us republicans the past year, is the fact every time bad news comes out, barack obama says, oh, i had no idea until i read about it in the paper. i'm just as angry as you. now they have got the guy that wants to be president of the united states saying, oh, hey, i didn't know about this until i read about it in the paper. despite the fact it was in my own backyard and i'm just as mad as you. you can understand why some republicans would be a little concerned with chris christie sounding a lot like, in our opinion, about barack obama over last year. >> i don't know if he sounds like barack obama. i certainly know that he sounds as if he has no idea, like i
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said, what goes on in a statement that came from his office. the stidecision by the deputy cf of staff to close, like you said, the world's busiest bridge. i think you can use that only so many times. i go back to him as the head of the rga. you wonder if this is a role that serves governor christie well at this point or serves the rga that well. look. this is a guy who has got to do a lot to get his house in order if he is not just going to have a political future nationally or a political future in new jersey. >> i like chris. i trust chris. i still take him at his word. but i'm always blunt and the fact is right now, he's a distraction to the rga. if a republican's job is electing the governor and the rga candidates running away from him that is a serious problem and he needs to sit down and do
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soul-searching whether he wants to defend charges against him or continue this. i don't think he can do both. >> a couple of other stories we want to get in here. the headline many are waking up to in "usa today." job gains in the u.s. are expected to average 200,000 a month, but after friday's dismal report, some are questioning whether these predixs can be trusted. the economy only added 113,000 jobs for the month of january and it was the second straight month the jobs numbers failed to meet expectations. december's dismal numbers were only revised upward by 1,000. >> steve, you looked at the numbers. what is going on here? >> so the economy does appear to have hit another slow patch. the january numbers which are not good, are a little hard to sglan even things by weather. in december we had a not good
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number we explained it by weather. you can see on the chart in december, we only had 74,000 jobs and only revised up slightly and then a small increase here. if you look at the trend line over the past year, you see a big deceleration in the rate that our jobs are being created. >> which, of course, nothing in this economy makes sense. the front page of "usa today" talking about a rosy forecast this year. >> by their nature, economists tend to be optimistic. we all like to be optimistic. you look at the project vjunes from the federal reserve. i think many think the economy will be better because of the contraction of the budget deficit is coming to than aan end and that will help recovery across the country. >> he was in sweden.
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>> and watching the beatles this nice little thing going on and i'm reading steve rattner's tweets and it all goes together. what did you see? give us your report as you come back to the homeland. >> did you like stockholm? >> i did. what is interesting i was actually mostly in the stronger countries in sweden, in germany knee, in the uk and london. >> we know some looked weak compared to these countries? >> but we didn't. >> exactly. >> we didn't. this is the thing. whatever problems we have hever and we have no shortage of problems as we talk about, the entrepreneurial spirit here, the drive and can do and get it done attitude is very different. europe moves slower. they have got a mess of their own problems in terms of the euro currency and how they deal with each other. and i came back thinking to myself i would not trade our lot in life for theirs. >> we sit around and kick you
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ourselves whether a democrat or republican in the white house and we talk about the problems here. i count myself in the 3%. it said in a poll they are optimistic where this country is going because i hear from so many people that, you know, whether they are british or french or whenever they land in america for all of our problems, it just feels different. and they feel like anything is problem and don't feel that in their own home country. i'm telling you what i hear every day, mike. they say i still, in this country, you guys don't see it. but i land here and i immediately feel like i can do anything. >> we're the last to see it and the last to feel it because we are here. that is unless they land at laguardia airport. >> yeah. >> but let me ask you. is it possible -- i agree with you about our sense of we can do
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it, our entrepreneurial spirit. is it possible we aring entering a phase there are just going to be fewer jobs? >> there are going tor more jobs but maybe not as many more jobs as we need. the other problem we have in this country is our incomes aren't growing. when you look at -- this came out in the same report last friday as the jobs numbers that year over year incomes in this country after inflation are essentially unchanged and that makes it hard to create demand and to create jobs. compare that to 12% unemployment in europe, you look at that thing from "usa today" they are talking about 3% growth, maybe 2.5% and maybe something like that, the europeans would kill to have that. they have 25% unemployment in spain. >> what did we hear three or four years ago? we heard brazil and china. at least two of those three sound a lot like japan in 1989.
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every 20 years people predicted america is going to become somebody else's grainery and the end is coming. we heard it in 1989 and 1990 and 1991. i know china is going to be the dominant force on the globe along with the united states of america. >> i'm glad you put that asterisk on china. >> they got a lot of problems. they don't have japan's problems in 1989 but they have got a lot of problems. >> was my brother a good host? >> he was very nice. >> did he throw up at dinner again? >> what? >> and pass out? >> what? >> no. he was on his best behavior. >> what about his wife? there is only an hour of sun at lunch time. >> we got a lot to talk about. >> yes, we do. we have to go. >> other news we wanted to get to on the top. we also -- i saw mariah carey. >> get out.
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where? was she wearing that dress? >> i can't remember but i'll tell you about that. >> you saw mariah carey? >> she an entourage of like 80 people. > . >> i would remember if she was in that dress. >> wow. that is saying something. there you go. >> went right pass me. >> senator jon tester will join us and jonathan allen and dr. oz and amie parnes will join us coming up. a democratic divide that can shape the party in 2016 and i'm looking for an opportunity to have robert gibbs cut me off. i think i owe him that. >> i don't even want to talk to this man. because i saw the satellite.
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>> mika texted me this morning and said she felt like crying when she walked outside and saw more snow. >> i wanted to krichlt is there not going to be more, is there, bill? >> anybody have travel plans on thursday? >> yes, we do. >> you'll probably want to rebook that. thursday, high travel impact day and looks like another winter storm is coming up the eastern seaboard. the cold air is moving in and another arctic blast and come in place for the storm coming out of the gulf of mexico. so there will be a lot of moisture with this one. no problems traveling today. it starts on tuesday down in the south. even atlanta could have some sleet later on tonight and air is cold enough for some freezing rain, south carolina through north carolina. i know. i left the "r" off the word winter. the storm will move up the eastern seaboard. it looks like a snowstorm likely for western north carolina and virginia and d.c. area and
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baltimore and new york city, up through new england. a coastal storm and appears to be moving fast enough we are not talking about feet of snow but it looks like our computers are painting 6 to 12 inches over a good section of the east coast. the timing is wednesday night and all day thursday. again, if you can avoid traveling and it's easy to switch your plans, do so. looks like much easier conditions on friday and earlier this week. more details this week. you're watching "morning joe." peace of mind is important when you're running a successful business. so we provide it services you can rely on. with centurylink as your trusted it partner, you'll experience reliable uptime for the network and services you depend on. multi-layered security solutions keep your information safe, and secure. and responsive dedicated support meets your needs, and eases your mind.
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take-down in new york history. 70 were arrested and taken into custody. it is being dubbed operation angry birds. officials rated stores in brooklyn and queens and stormed a farm in upstate new york where the birds were allegedly raised and trained. >> "the new york times." thousands of people outraged after a denmark zoo killed a healthy giraffe surplus. they shot the animal to prevent inbreeding. spectators as well as children were able to watch. the 2-year-old draft was then fed to other animals. the zoo declined offers from other zoos and animals rights groups to take the giraffe in. that is bizarre. scientists say 20 to 30 animals put down at the cope
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haigen zoo every year. i think we should send your little dog spice. is that his name? >> i love spice. >> he is all over the place. >> we celebrated spice this weekend. >> he's a rescue. you have to work with him and he had a kidney stone. >> you get these rescues. like this rescue cat you had that ended up costing but $3,000 to $4,000. jim is like let's not get the rescues any more. who gets a rescue with a kidney stone? >> it was a big kidney stone too. he was very uncomfortable so he is going to be on okay, right, steve? >> right. >> i always agree with mika. >> i love spice. i carry him around in a blanket. >> i don't know if it's right but i just agree with mika.
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>> the "los angeles times." coffee lovers in los angeles waited for hours to get their hands on a dumb starbucks. the mock store opened this weekend. its creators are calling it an art parody and say they are not breaking any laws. you can pick up a dumb jazz cd at the counter. is it because it's so expensive it's dumb you paper $4 that it costs 25 cents to make? what is the point of the art or the message? >> i don't know this but "the washington post" writes -- >> you went. >> i saw "lego" with my kids. ♪ everything is awesome that is the theme song. the animated movie pulled in $69
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million making it the biggest opening of the year. and the second best february open ever. it really was. >> i want to go to that. >> it was a very well done movie. it was actually one reviewer said it was a movie for adults that scattered in a few jokes for kids. >> jack loved it, right? >> jack and kate loved it. every time we were happy they would stop and go -- ♪ ♪ everything is awesome >> that's so cute. with us is chris smith. "america's mayor" takes a look at bill de blasio's landslide victory in new york. >> by virtue of running and wing asbest the left most in a democc
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primary in an overwhelming democratic city. de blasio is now a beacon to liberals across the country. it's about competing visions of the democratic party and it's a foreshadowing of contention that on could shape the 2016 presidential primaries. >> since i read stories at 2:00 a.m., sometimes i forget but there is a national figure going too far left and it's causing concerns with democrats. this is a foreshadowing. for a lot of people, poor obama gets it from both sides. liberals are looking for people like bill de blasio, right? >> sure. steve in the previous segment touched on one of the core issues here with the number of jobs and the weak paying
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numbers. a lot of people are hurting out there. yes, we are relatively better off than a lot of countries area our future is brighter than a lot of places but whether it's in san diego, a traditionally conservative political environment where they are talking about income inequality in the governor's race. they are not all imitating de blasio but pick up on a lot of the same themes. >> charlie crist being attacked by florida democrats for going too far left on a lot of different issues. and it sounds a lot like what is happening in new york this battle between cuomo and de blasio. >> there is definitely a battle back and forth. it's interesting how you point out the connection of the clintons and what it means to bill de blasio's and they are the bridge between the two. explain that. >> hillary clinton, at this point looks inevitable. she has got tremendous strengths, if she, in fact, runs
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in 2016 for president. she is very much an establishment figures. republicans will claim she is a communist, socialist but in the democratic ranks she is a centrist. a lot of reaction to the financial crisis and you see it institutional ized and it's gon to de blasio elected as mayor of new york city. how that plays out, certainly, there is a long running tension in democratic politics between the left wing and the electable figures. even if hillary, you know, goes wire-to-wire in the democratic primaries there is pressure on her from the grassroots to
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accommodate some of these issues. >> when you see forming is the constellation of people like elizabeth warren and brian schweitzer who says he is running for president. you know the history of new york mayor is going on to sort of a national platform is not very good when you talk about lindsey or giuliani or whoever. i think de blasio symbolizes the tension between my party any way i wouldn't call him the old guard as much as the centrist and much more aggressive wing. >> i'm by no means suggesting that bill de blasio is a candidate for president a year from now but whether in the center or fought out like switzer who sees an opening to the left. de blasio has an interesting history here because he came up through the clinton ranks in some ways and, you know, is not nearly as radical in his policy as proposal is a lot of folks
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would like to caricature him. >> "new york" magazine's chris smith, thank you very much. >> thank you, chris. that is fascinating. >> interesting tweets coming in about you. >> what is that? >> joe looks like he reeks of booze and cigs. >> your point? >> i wear pajamas on the set last week. all i know -- >> elastic pants wednesday. >> it is. >> all i know is everything is awesome but turn it up, guys. >> everything is awesome. "morning joe" sports is next. ♪ what if you could shrink your pores just by washing your face?
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i'm not afraid of who i am. i'm not afraid to tell the world who i am. i'm michael sam. i'm a college graduate. i'm african-american. and i'm gay. >> did you hear that? that is michael sam, one of the top defensive prospects in college football. today he is poised to become the first openly gay professional football player in the history of the game. many are praising sam's bravery
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and so close to the graft and announcement could cost him draft position and with it millions of dollars. nobody is questioning this guy's resume. he was defensive player of the year for the southeastern conference. and a first-team all-american. his teammates voted him mvp. >> that is awesome. >> others hinted at the challenges ahead. some league general managers said some will be accepting but some believe the attention could turn into a media circus. one nfl scouts says many locker rooms are stuck in the 1950s. one gm told "sports illustrated" the relate he is an overrated football player in our estimation. the official went on to say the question you will ask yourself knowing your team how will drafting him affect your locker room and i'm sorry to say where we are at this point in time i think it's going to affect most locker rooms. >> mike, come on. the quote goes on. but last night, i saw the news. when i was on the twitter to see
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about the beatles and steve rattner. people were saying look at this story. it's going to hurt him and dah, dah, dah. i didn't even open them. you know what a gm gets paid for and what a coach gets paid for and what owners want, they want to win. you know what? they would take a communist like stalin at that titattoo on his . in 2014 if this guy is good, it just doesn't matter. >> the best nfl organizations and best managers the question is can he play and help this team win? >> his teammates loved him at missouri. would you rather have a guy rei like that in your locker room or a-rod? >> if they have wife beaters and people that don't pay child support, i don't think letting in a gay guy is going hurt anybody. >> that said, it does not mean
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the nfl does not have a problem. they do have a problem. the league is so arrogant and has been so dismissive of gay athletes and -- >> what? >> we were just being down from mars. breaking news. hold on. >> you're going to tell me the army? stop. don't. >> i have to say i didn't get why this was -- >> that is the sad part, that it is a huge story. >> i'm not the guy to defend the nfl but the nfl put out a statement immediately saying great job, way to go. which is great for the nfl. and now, again, we all know it's about winning at the end of the day. by the way, as thomas said, there's some guys, i don't want to mention it, but there are some guys that, like you said, alleged murderers who were held up, you know? and praised. seriously?
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>> the nfl -- >> girlfriend beaters and nonpaying for your kid people and making millions of dollars and we support and cheer them and we buy their jerseys. >> coming up, the new issue -- >> by the way, if he is really good, he gets paid a lot of money. >> he played in the s.e.c. >> the new issue, magazine's editor will join us next.
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sapien. >> mike is looking at my list. >> number one, though, you got to -- >> look, it's jack nicholson. >> he looks great. >> i got to get me some of those. >> let's talk about number one. google still number one. how are they still at the top? >> in general, companies are innovative and succeed because they are focused on one thing, parker's example which we talked about. google it at the top of the list things they have continued to push on the last year from google glass to chrome which is google's answer to a chrome cast google's answer to apple tv and google fiber and innovations, a whole range. >> steve warned google would go off cause because microsoft,
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they are trying to do too many things but you say just the opposite. >> i think they are being successful in a lot of the things they are starting. this list is pointing a way to where our world is moving to and google is at the fror front of many of those things. >> how do they stay a decade in? >> i think there is ambition for them to be beyond just a search advertising company and that they look at the impact of getting more people to use the internet to use technology as being what will grow their overall business and that is what drives them forward. >> let's go down the list. bloombe bloombe bloombe bloombe bloomberg philanthropy. >> the ceo there is known as the steve jobs of china. a 3-year-old company. they have $5 billion worth of revenue and low priced phones but tremendous revenue of services from apps and things like that and a company you'll hear in the time and years
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ahead. we thought it was important to let everybody know about that. >> drop box has its user base from 100 million to 200 million in the last year and we are living in a cloud. an indication of the innovation we are talking about and these lists are talking about where we will be going. >> air b and b? >> have you used it? >> we had the guys on and barnicle's sons do trash every house they go to. >> airbnb is a new kind of hospitality lodging company, right? hosts are very happy. guests are very happy. they have more rooms than any hotel chain now and making a lot of money. >> please talk to mr. rattner about these american companies in terms of unemployment. are there any jobs with these innovative companies? >> google employees lots of people. are you worried they are not
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hiring enough americans? the technology allows a lot of these companies to be extremely efficient and that limits the number of jobs that go with them. >> that is actually good for america and a longer conversation but one of the things i noticed is the absence from here a lot of the twitters and facebook's and pandora and pintrest. >> twitter is on the list because they had a significant innovation in the last year. this list we have 50 companies around the world and only repeat five or six of them year over year. they have to have shown i innovation the last 12 months. twitter is there because of vine. their video service, six-second videos. they had that specifically to point to. we have companies here like t-mobile. 18 months ago they were sort of you were ready to forget about them, right? the ceo came in and he has really attacked the idea of customer service in the cell phone carrier business and now they are booming and forcing other cell companies to go along
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with them. >> number seven is probably the oldest company in the top ten, nike. >> they contain the sustainablity they are pushing through their systems is extraordinary. >> bop, thanks. >> great to see you here. coming up, democratic candidates want the backing of the white house but they just don't want the president anywhere near them. mike allen breaks down the midterm strategy. >> i don't believe them. >> i don't either. but that is the headline. we will be right back. sked people a simple question: can you keep your lifestyle in retirement? i don't want to think about the alternative. i don't even know how to answer that. i mean, no one knows how long their money is going to last. i try not to worry, but you worry. what happens when your paychecks stop? because everyone has retirement questions. ameriprise created the exclusive confident retirement approach. to get the real answers you need. start building your confident retirement today.
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♪ ♪ ♪ let's talk to the chief white house correspondent for politico, mike allen. you're saying democrats are saying to president obama, thanks but no thanks. >> we talk to nearly every senate candidates for the senate and only a couple said i'd love to have p.m. campaign to me. many of the southern states it's a tough time so they have clever strategies to get around it. here is how candidate planned out the advantage of the white house to get the money that they need from the president without having to actually put their arm around him. the president is going to be raising money for pax and fund-raisers in safe places and doing about six fund-raisers for the democrat senate committee.
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the first two in new york and washington. vice president biden, the first lady, bill clinton, people are more popular and out much more. bill clinton has along schedule. joe biden says he has 120 invitations. some in cases they are getting around it by having as mrs. obama did in 2012, they are having her work on voting registration. that is way to excite the grassroots without having to appear with the candidate. >> robert gibbs, you look at these national polls. the president will be in like 46, 47% which is great but democrats are fighting on red state turf where his ratings may be 35% to 36%. not like people don't want the president across the country but louisiana, arkansas, north carolina, nobody's feelings are hurt in the west wing that maybe the very red states don't want the president down there? >> i think you said it right.
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♪ slip sliding away slip sliding away ♪ >> it's the perfect texture for running. very low impact to your feet don't get wet. >> sorry to have kept you about but appreciate you talking with us. we have seen a lot of people out here running and sledding and one big oops, that can happen. >> did that really happen? >> i was talking to steve about that. >> it happened to me twice. >> it's not funny! >> like barnicle and steve rattner and robert gibbs is with us. jon tester is joining us. how is montana right now? >> a little chilly right now.
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we had a cold snap of our own there. below zero last week but it will warm up this week and above freezing. >> great to have you on the set with us. >> very good to be here. >> where do you stand on the minimum wage issue? >> i think it ought to be bumped up. >> exactly. >> jon tester, thank you! >> i guess that is why she brought you on here. as always, you cut right to it. thank you very much. >> long-term unemployment benefits? >> we will get there. >> you want to extend them in a big way. >> look. i don't think three months is that ordinary and i think if you combine that with some things you get folks trained and retrained, educated up, it can be positive. but i think the unemployment short term, we need to look at long-term ways to get unemployment down. >> let's take a look at the headlines. a lot of people are waking up to "usa today" front page, outlook rosy this year after pallid start. according to a survey of
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economists, job gains are expected to average 200,000 a month but after friday's dismal reports, some are questioning whether these predictions can be trusted. they the economy added only 113,000 jobs for january and the second straight month the jobs reports failed to meet expectations. >> robert gibbs, if there is a turnaround this year in 2014, all of these issues that we are talking about, a to z, sort of go away and things start looking a little bit better for the democratic party. how important is it for the president and democrats running in red and blue and purple states, for the economy to turn by 2014, into 2014? >> look. i think -- steve mentioned this at the very beginning, you know, watching those jobs numbers, watching the cents and the
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confidence that people have in the economy improving and i think also again something steve mentioned and you touched on at the beginning of this segment. even as we are adding jobs people don't feel like their jobs are getting better because their wages haven't gone up and haven't for a while and just keeping pace with inflation. even as you see articles that say things are getting better, people don't necessarily feel it because of their wages. >> steve rattner? >> they are not forget better for people, and robert is exactly right. the last four years when we have been in the midst of an economic recovery and it has been one that the average worker their wages have gone down by 0.1%, if you adjust for inflation. so it's very hard to say to people you should be happy. you should be excited about the state of our economy, excited about our political system when your wages basically have been flat as you can see on this
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chart on the screen. >> of course, what everybody is talking about, the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer and this is a jobless recovery and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. you talk about long-term things we can do other than raising the minimum wage or extending unemployment benefits. what are some of the solutions? >> i think you need to focus on education. i really do. i think it's one of the things that will help lift people up in the economic strata and it's a no-brainer. it pays back time and time again. the other thing that can happen over the short term and long term washington, d.c. need to work together and put forth policies and move the economy forward. >> like what? >> we finally passed a budget. we finally have a funding bill that takes us to october 1st. we are going to be dealing with a debt ceiling coming up. if people play around with that debt ceiling is that is an incredible drag on the economy. >> what else? >> housing finance reform needs to be done.
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it could be senators warren and corker have a great bill. i'm a part of it and seven other folks evenly split. >> you don't really think that is going to happen any time in the foreseeable future? >> i think it's possible to get it done. i think we have got a good group that is pushing hard on it. is it going to be easy? no. the closer to the election the more folks are looking over their right shoulder and some to their left. >> what do they need? is it tax relief or regulatory relief? what do business owners in the states do they need it hire people? >> i think certainty in washington, d.c. i think streamlining regulations and making them lean and mean but to the point to protect things like clean air and clean water and do not make folks ping-ponged between agencies. i think it is the ability to have a well-trained work force and something that is talked about a lot is a health care
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program that works and works for everybody. i think that will help businesses in a big, big way. i still farm. i've said it many, many times. the health care bill, even though it's pounded and the rollout is rocky but it helps small businesses in a big way. >> how? >> your employs can afford to get happy. that helps a business and helps move it forward. >> you still farm. you're farmer. >> yes. >> we hear all the time we need more people whose careers in politics had something to do with politics, okay? you go to the united states senate from being a farmer. how frustrating is it for you to go to the united states senate -- you're talking about three issues here at the top of the show, immigration, minimum wage, unemployment benefits. nothing ever gets done. why do you say? how can you stay? how frustrating is it? >> it's like farming. next year will be a better year. >> that's optimism.
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>> you always have hope things are going to get better and work together. the reason i have that hope is i have good friends on both sides of the aisle and quite frankly it's crazy we are in this gridlock we are in. the fringes have far more power than you should. >> mike barnicle mentioned immigration. a week and a half ago immigration reform appeared to be a top priority for the house but they say the president is uncertain to be trusted to. >> announcer: laws that come with it. democratic senator chuck schumer? >> there is a simple solution. let's enact a law this year, but simply not let it actually start till 2017 after president obama's term is over. i think the wrap against him he won't enforce the law is false. . has deported more people than any other president, but you
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could actually have the law start in 2017 without doing much violence to it. >> already speaker boehner's office has rejected the idea but possible presidential candidate rand paul emphasized the urgency of embracing immigration reform for his own party and speaking at a texas event with republicans he did not get the response he was hoping for. >> what i do believe is texas will be a democrat state within ten years if you don't change. it doesn't mean we give up on what we believe in but we have to be a more welcoming party and we have to welcome people of all races. we need to welcome people of all classes. business class, working class. we need to have people with tithes and without tattoos and with earrings and without earrings. we need a more diverse party and we need a party that looks like america.
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if you want to work and you want a job and you want to be part of america, we will find a place for you. that was kind of tepid. >> don't go to somebody and say if you don't change. how about if we don't change? little thing with language there. one thing that strikes me, robert, is just how aggressively chuck schumer is going out trying to pass this immigration reform bill and even saying, let's just delay it until president obama is out of office. he is trying to take every excuse that he can take away from john boehner and the house republicans. >> i think senator schumer and others have worked really hard to get the bill to this point. i think they realize if they can't break through, this we probably will not have this debate in any robust way until 2017. it is hard to imagine the
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players in this debate like march row ko ru-- marco rubio a others want to restart this. it's hard to see. >> marco got burned talking about this in a big way. >> look. i will say this. i think the people -- i think the republican party has to make a big decision here. the question is whether or not they are going to be a regional congressional party and i think that is a lot of what rand paul is talking about. or whether they are going to be a party that has the capabilities of winning a national election and, quite frankly, they aren't going to win national elections in presidential years if their hispanic vote share dwindles from mccain to romney. giving the changing electorate you will not put together enough votes to win the white house. new jersey's biggest paper has a case of buyer's remorse. did you see this over the
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weekend, senator? yeah. "the star-ledger" endorsed governor chris christie in his bid for re-election but now the editor say, quote, we blew this one and some gop candidates are steering clear of him. he heads next week for a republican governor fund-raiser but none of the four candidates in his party plan to attend. politico reported david wildstein, the one where he kind of attacks his high school career, remember that? was never actually read by the governor himself. the memo, of course, included those personal attacks dating back to high school and it said he sued wildstein over a school board election and was accused by a teacher of deceptive behavior. god, can you imagine going back to joe's high school career? >> what the nuns would say! >> they have said a lot!
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they have said a lot! >> we don't to go back there. >> wildstein they are cage created a culture of fear within the authority. >> mike, i plead youthful indiscretion all the way up to 50. >> he went to parochial high school with the sisters of no mercy. >> they use a ruler? >> no, they all loved me. >> you know what occurred to me as mika was reading the news about governor christie? when you go home to montana, it's a huge story. governor christie potential presidential aspirations as you know. does anybody talk about this in montana? >> yeah, is there a little. >> really? >> they do a little but because he is high profile guy. he's one of the normal ones who was running for president.
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at big story. and i think that, you know, how you get out of it, you're totally transparent. i'm not sure going back and attacking your critics in high school is the way to do it but, hey. transparency, he has got to be -- totally transparent. i'm not going to judge what happened up to now but needs to lay it all out. >> he keeps saying the dog eight my homework. chan changi changi changing topics for a second. you have a new democratic senator in montana. should we expect to see president obama in montana campaigning this fall? >> he didn't come 20 the state when i ran in 2012. hi a tough race. i listened to the segment you guys were talking about that 37 when i was running for the state legislature, senator max balkus had run re-election four times in the state.
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i didn't want him in my race. i wanted me to run my race because i didn't want his enemies not voting for me. i think the same kind of deal. you know it's a tough race, just like mine was. you want to talk about what you believe in and you don't want to pick up the folks opposed to the president. you want to get those guys to vote for you and in 2012 i had a tough race and president lost badly and i won. >> how much did the president lose by in your state? >> it was double digits. i can't remember. a bunch. i won by almost four. >> how did you do that? for democrats -- you know, because you're sort of a mirror image of chris christie. you're a democrat that wins a republican state. your tie? >> exactly, the tie. >> and chris is a republican that wins in a very blue state. what is the secret to connecting with -- because it happens to rarely these days. >> first of all, you don't want to get embraled in a controversy
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like chris christie is now or i would have been sunk. i think you need to talk about what you've accomplished if you're running for re-election and lay out a clear strategy. >> with democrats, that doesn't happen. >> look. montana is democrat, republican, overtone with libertarian. you talk about civil liberties. you talk about nsa overreach. you talk about those kind of things. montana is also a place where we sign up for the service and record members and we have a large second highest per capita veterans but we don't necessarily want to fight every war that is out there. you talk about those kind of issues and you can get -- the other thing in montana by the time you run statewide and it's a two-year process, you have either looked everybody in the eye or you've shaken their hands and so they know who you are. so that's a big plus too. it's a challenge but it can be
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done. it's a lot of work and it shouldn't be a painful process but it is and you go through it and you do it. >> we wish you the best of luck. thank you for coming in. >> thanks a lot. >> nice to see you. >> my pleasure. >> senator jon tester. thank you. coming up, why hillary rejected her husband's advice back in 2008 and what it says about the former president's role should she run again. it's part after new book about the former first lady and the authors join us next on "morning joe." first, here is bill karins with a check on the first. >> we have another winter storm headed for the eastern seaboard this week. seems like we have one a week. this could be a decent sized one. players are just come onshore. one in the pacific northwest and the other is moving through california and should xined into the east coast storm.
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you need cold air to have a winter storm and we have that. cold air from minneapolis to chicago and heading down into the seep dow jones industrial average. expecting wintry weather from texas this morning and the next couple of days over the southeast and maybe an ice storm in the carolinas before we get to a storm coming up the coast. the cold air across the east. the high impact winter storm most likely scenario the storm is strengthening as it moves along the eastern seaboard and off new england snow for interior sections for i-95. icy mix. atlanta, remember a disaster two weeks ago? ice storm through the carolinas. the timing wednesday night and all day thursday along the eastern seaboard. if you can avoid travel that day and not cost you a lot of money to changes your plans you probably should try and see what options you have. you're watching "morning joe." ♪ dad, why are you getting that? is there a prize in there?
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21 past the hour. joining us from washington msnbc news report casey hunt. how clinton buzz hurts other democratic contenders is her article. you say the shadow of possible clinton campaign is casting is blotting out any other potential female candidates like who? >> the democrats have more potential female candidates this secretary. you have the following. but if you look at what these women are saying about whether or not they want to run for president, they are all saying they are waiting on hillary and many have said they would support hillary's candidacy and
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part of that they are women and most of these are senators and work in a male dominated institution and understand what it takes to get ahead as a woman but they are also not taking some opportunities that they could be to build early infrastructure in these states they would need to do if they want to run for on president. activists to meet in the early states and i talked to one democrat who is turning down invitations because they are waiting for hillary to make cher decision and you're not seeing similar actions from the men in the field. last week joe biden was out there saying why not me for president? and martin o'malley, the governor of maryland is out there saying, hey, this is a critical period of time to do the work and, sure, we might be waiting to see what hillary decides to do but why wouldn't i get out there? why would i waste this time? >> the question is how long does she wait before she says something? >> you know how long she waits? >> january 1st.
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>> as long as she wants. january 1st? >> 2nd, 3rd, 5th, something after the first of the year. >> casey hunt, thank you. with us on set is jonathan allen and senior white house correspondent for "the hill" amie parnes. >> they are co-authors of the book "hrc." >> a gorgeous cover. >> thanks to random house for that. >> we love it. we have nothing to do with it but we love it. >> i love it. >> that is transparency. >> we got to start. our producer put this out here. it's a grabber. it begins with a chapter what the authors call hillary's hit list. who is on that list? >> a list of "morning joe's" favorite of cast of characters. claire mccaskill and the rest
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were on there. they put together a list of the good and the bad. if you were really good, you helped her as much as you could, you got a 1. if you didn't support her, you got a 7. >> so they actually put a numerical vote out? >> oh, yeah. >> this is serious stuff. >> notable lawmakers on the hit list. that is rough! >> chris van hollen didn't know why he was on there! >> who has time to make hit list and rate your enemy? >> a person who loses the primary. >> it was her staff? >> yes, it was her staff. the staff of the losing candidate. >> and chris christie's staff that shut down the george washington bridge. it starts at the top. >> the reason that matters you saw bill clinton the last two election cycles go after these people and knock them out of congress.
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congressman from pennsylvania and pat murphy, he ran for state attorney general. bill clinton helped his opponent. howard berman, i think you know him, mika, foreign affairs committee chairman. >> i think i'm okay on that one, mika. i think you may be in trouble. >> we should say they were really great about access and so maybe we are not on their his list. maybe we are. >> so let's talk about -- we are going back a long way but it's fascinating. it's about how hillary learns from mistakes that she has made in the past. a moment in 2008 convention where she was there as the losing candidate, in large part, because a lot of people believe bill's team screwed up her chances to win. there is a moment where he starts scribbling and editing the text of her speech.
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what does she do? >> she goes to practice her speech and at her hotel going with her staff going over the speech and says, waimt. this is nothing like what i just practiced. they said president clinton had been in here and he was sort of adding his poetic flourishes to the speech. she said there is my speech and she leaves and goes to find her husband. >> and changes it back. >> then what happened? >> we will leave that up to your imagination. >> a lot of people think this is indicative of how she runs the next campaign if she runs another campaign and she is not going to turn it over to the president and the people that screwed up in 2008. >> one of the things we talk about in 9 book, there is another scene with when she is working on her concession speech and she was uncomfortable with the whole idea embracing herself as an icon for the women's movement and she sits down at her dining room table and has to
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be talked into the 18 million cracks and that kind of language which was the most popular moment of her campaign during that concession. she wants to be in control of her own destiny. >> she is uncomfortable, is she not, with the rhetorical flourishes and the flowery image that her husband loves. she is, at heart, a solid midwest methodist that doesn't get swept away by a lot of this. >> very much nuts and bolts. t her husband is charming and people love him instantly. with her sometimes it takes a little bit more work and time but we found in interviewing people, including people in bob gates circle and david petraeus we talked to, a lot of people come to find they appreciate her intellect and appreciate her generosity and her sense of humor. >> i ran in '94 when we ran, hillary was as much of the, quote, political enemy as bill
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on the campaign trail. the first time i met her, i was blown away by how charming she was. i expected tipper and al gore to be more charming and relaxed but the opposite. the president and hillary. i was blown away. >> she is really funny. >> immediately. i was at least. by the way, i was part of that crazy '94 class that was their enemies and she was -- >> i'm not sure relaxed is the first word people apply to al gore. >> well, no, he wasn't. they were the opposite. they were sort of stiff and standoffish while hillary, who had every reason to be rude, was actually very -- >> i'm a huge admirer but i think she is the most self-administered and disciplined person i've ever met. >> going become to what joe said. we found a funny moment you
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might recall a cardboard cutout and the speech writer who is my neighbor mocked up her breasts in this cardboard cutout and hillary clinton calls him and he is really upset this has come out. she calls him and she said, i haven't seen the photo but i hear my hair looks great in it and that gives you an idea who we are dealing with. she is really charming and very funny. >> you write about david petraeus saying they should make a tremendous president and qualities mostly visible in tough times. in the wake of benghazi attacks, for example, she was extraordinary, resolute, determined and in control. >> robert gibbs? >> well, i'd love to ask the writers this because i was struck in the earlier segments when we had the writer from "new york" magazine on who said hillary clinton is inevitable. i can only some hillary clinton
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advisers threw up a little in mayor mouths of the notion of being inevitable. >> wow. >> no. but my question is what have you seen? what are the lessons she learned in losing a race? i say this because i think you learn a lot more from a losing race than you ever do a winning race and if she is not going to run as inevitable, what did she learn that is going to change the way she runs for president this time? >> it's interesting. she did the series of postmortems in the summer of 2008 where she called her aides and friends in and said, what did i do wrong? i think she learned was there an arrogance at the top of her campaign and so you'll see a more relaxed kind of chill hillary campaign this time hopefully. then i think that she also learned that, robert, you guys ran circles around her campaign in terms of technology and organize than and she took some of those lessons so you'll see a
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lot of that. i think she is going to embrace the fact she is a woman candidate. that was something that president obama did when he was a candidate. >> there is a historic nature of the candidacy something she didn't want to talk about. obama used it to great advantages. >> she was one of the worst front runners i think any of us has seen in quite a while. she was an extraordinary underdog when the numbers were against her. we sat around in this table in awe and robert had to be thinking when is she going to be going away? >> especially after she came secretary of state. >> week in and week out, we said if she didn't win texas, it's over. she wins texas. if she didn't win ohio, it's over. she wins ohio. then she wins pennsylvania by nine, ten points. but has she learned not -- i mean, is she going to be, and
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leaa lot of people are wondering is she the same safe, calculated as you said good girl from wellsly or a candidate that we admired? >> i think one of the big questions for her. can she be the kind of candidate that attracts people because of her energy and not because of her inevitability. sources close to her said when she was at the state department she opened it up a little bit and seemed more natural and more comfortable just being herself and letting the chips fall where they may. i think there is no spotlight like a presidential campaign. i think you identify one of the great questions going forward. >> i think one of the last things she is going to do is the inevitability routine. >> you think robert is right some of her advisers threw up in
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their mouth? >> the most recent hillary announcement is that they have a super pact that supports them now. the truth is this race is not going to be decided or it shouldn't be decided by who has a super pact. i think if she is going to run a really good race, she has got to get a message that excites democrats and a message where she wants to take the country, not just all of this institutional power. she had plenty of institutional power last time. she needs to excite democrats and she needs to win races in iowa and plays she didn't before and really run a passionate campaign as joe mentioned, she did when her back was against the wall if it's just inevitability and if it's just these endorsements and this super pact, it's not necessarily a recipe for success. >> that's what you've been saying, mika. what does she stand for? >> there are some great women out there, so it's not so
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gotten in trouble for it. >> one of the two mothers is speaking oun at and armstrong i backtracking. >> reporter: deanndeanna, every with her daughter is daughter as she was born three months premature. >> on her first day, we were told that we had a -- i'm sorry. a one-third chance of her dying before we would be able to bring her home. >> her husband works for aol. last week, armstrong said they were changing its 401(k) business. in health care rising costs it paid $2 million for what he called two disstressed babies born to aol staffers. he didn't name the babies but they knew. >> it was obvious he was talking about my daughter. to label her a distressed baby and to me there did sound like the implication that somehow we
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were greedy consumers of health care benefits that we had kind of gobbled up more than our share of the pie. >> reporter: she wasn't alone in her shock. aol did an about-face restoring its original 401(k) policy. in a letter to the staff armstrong said i made a mistake and apologize for my comments last week at the town hall when i mending specific health care examples. nbc news reached out to aol and a spokesperson said armstrong has apologized personally to the family. >> he has spoken in heartfelt ways how badly he feels for causing us this hurt and i accept that. >> reporter: but for faye who wrote an article in "slate" magazine has has now gone viral, it's about her baby. >> i think it's important to have the national conversations about health care spending we are having but i think it's also important to keep in mind the
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lives that are sometimes, you know, so tiny, so vulnerable, so paralist that are really what we are talking about. >> reporter: a mom putting a face on a national conversation. >> up next, dr. oz is here with his prescription to living the good life. it's the focus of his new magazine and he joins us next to explain and i'm hoping he has zip lock bags of food which he seems to always bring us and he always seems to be eating. what if you could shrink your pores just by washing your face?
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interesting situations in my life. >> four hours of makeup. >> i don't recognize myself. my arms and legs are heavy. >> one fat suit later, my transformation is complete. i'm not really 400 pounds but my heart is saying you're not worthy. i'm used to walking with my head held high and even though i know i'm the same person inside this costume i feel really low now. my self-esteem dropped and i feel like i'm a different person. >> how mika feels sitting next to me. >> the onsie doesn't help. you look very good but you know you need to lose on about five more pounds, right? >> i do. so you wrote about this. you wrote about this. >> the dr. oz show, he has a lot to say about the fight of obesity and rapid loss diet and have you to be careful with
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those and get to that in a moment. >> eating with your mouth full is bad for you. >> dr. oz says i have the wrong idea about cashews because i think they are fattening. >> aren't they fattening? >> they are not. talk about this for a second. this week on the show we are talking about this all the time. the big theme i want people to recognize your body wants you to eat the right fats. if your fat is panic it's going to hold on to itself. >> what happens if you don't eat? what if you're so hyperhealthy that you don't eat? >> you'll lose weight. >> is that bad? >> why does everybody need fat? >> fat is a protective mechanism and good at absorbing toxins from the environment but the main reason we have it in the olden days we have to store fat because times of familine when had to have resources. there was no fruit and vegetables in northern europe so story up in the summertime. we don't go after anything with any kind of physical exertion. fats are good for you if they
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are the right fats like i gave you cashews. when you eat nuts, they have protein and fiber and nutrients and your brain is looking for all of those. the fats come along for the ride and better example is skim milk versus whole fat milk. which helps you to lose wait? >> whole milk. >> right. skim milk is sugar. when you eat milk with fat in it you lose weight in all of the trials. i spent a lot of time. we call it the good life for a reason. for me the good life was not about fast cars and lots of cash. it was primarily about the deeper insight that your life is defined by the people in it and if those people are happy you'll be happy. people not to eat food and not to celebrate like professor barnicle is looking at i want you to enjoy life but if you're unable to enjoy a good life you're not enjoying life but you can do it healthy at the same time. >> we are trying to tackle how
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we tackle obesity. a lot of people had to turn to surgery which in many cases is the option for them. what about preventing it and how, i think what are the mis n misconceptio misconceptions? >> i wanted to experience what it's like to be heavy in america. the bigger you are in america the more invisible you are. i walked in a mall and women had their children ignore me. >> judgment. >> i told all of the viewers on my show this week i don't want them getting weighed by their doctors any more unless they want to because you go to the doctor's office or you don't because you're ashamed about getting weighed. you're 600 pounds! everybody is talking about you in the waiting area and nurses. i want women to get comfortable. i know they are overweight. you do too. i don't want to embarrass you. the way to lose weight, weight
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loss surgery is the most underperformed operation in america. governor christie the right operation. when they lose a lot of weight and i was with him at the super bowl. he has lost a ton of weight. good for him and his body and his family. >> and his family. >> in terms of prevention we have the wrong idea. i did a show on this. our fifth year of the show and pretty good ones out there. my staff appearing in front of me. i took their program and we had 2 million downloads almost immediately. you take some foods we know inflame the body. wheat is a good example. sugar and artificial sweeteners irritate you and your body doesn't snow what is going on and it holds onto it. you eat real food like carrot, apple, cashews they are foods coming out of the ground. the body knows what to do with these and it will nationally
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help you lose weight. you'll live the good life while you're losing the weight. >> snickers bar good or bad? >> no worse than white bread for a snickers bar. >> that is a killer because i've learned. i've learned as i -- i've learned to stay away from the really bad stuff. but bread man, i still go after the bread. so that's good to know. >> dr. oz, interesting about the weight and not talking about weight, because i tweeted my weight when i gained 20 pounds, because i wrote a book. i do think we judge people and their weight too much. and we ought to be more open about it, because -- and people who are obese and morbidly obese, the averting of the eyes is part of the shame, because we don't talk about it. someone that's morbidly obese, wouldn't you want to talk to them about their health and make them feel accepted and understood? >> this is lightning round, by the way. we want to get around the table. >> i dressed in the fat suit, went to a food court in the mall, and i talked to people there about their weight. and the last person said, i don't like my doctor, because they judge me.
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and we want to do the opposite. use your waist size instead of the weight. that's a better way of assessing -- the waist should be more than half your height. how tall are you? >> 6'4". six times 12, plus four, and if your waist size is more than 38 inches -- don't do the texas belting, men after 40, they never buy a new belt, slide it down like this, and walk around like this. >> no, baby, i'm good. okay. so i'm good. 38. i'm 38. >> okay. >> lose 10 pounds. >> on my shows this afternoon, i'm talking about an herbal combination of a flower and a fruit, that's just recently trial came out, in "the journal of obesity," the supplement helped people lose eight pounds in eight weeks. we tried it on members of the audience and got similar results. i think you'll like it. there are fast tricks like that that can nudge you in the right direction, but the long-termed
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sustained reduction in weight are things i've talking to mika about. >> people that see you dressed up as a 400-pound individual, there's a psychological trigger that goes along with it. what advice do you have for people out there that want to change their habits, but also need rewiring, psychologically, about what's the triger? >> i've asked people they're heavy, why they gained, and how people who lost it did it. and it comes down to self-esteem. they feel a deep emptiness in their soul and looking for love in all the wrong places. they look for the thing they can control, which is a fork at the end of their hand. there's a psychological part to this story. we use food as a weapon or addictive tool. people knowing that already. how do you make it easier for to get back on top? and it's simple steps, which is a little bit of walking. >> we need to go. we need to get you back. i keep seeing things i want to talk to you about. dr. oz's tech tips on the best
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way to sharpen your memory. one, and my ghod god, i have seen a generation of people get lost in this. one, listen. avoid the internet rabbit hole. two, schedule down time. these are incredible. three, try single tasking, which we talked about all the time. we're horrible at it. number four, let technology help. >> multitasking is a myth. just remember that. >> you can't do that. really quickly, how's your health? >> my health is very well. my wife is taking care of me. four kids zsh it helps -- >> my wife is the editor at large of this magazine. >> oh, good. >> please, she is the brains of the operation. >> you guys are doing our conference thrive. >> yes. >> can't wait. >> i hope you'll come back. >> if he doesn't invite me. mika, thanks to you, i come on once in a while. >> listen, we want you all the time. this is awesome. >> i want to talk more about obesity with you. people who need so much help and support and love. the new magazine, "the good
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♪ up next, it's another question of what did chris christie know when? now people close to the governor say he never approved a statement blasting the man behind the gwb bridge closure. "morning joe" will be right back.
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♪ good morning. it's 8:00 on the east coast. 5:00 a.m. on the west coast, as you take a live look at new york city. i just love the snow. back with us on set, we have mike barnicle, thomas roberts, steve ratner, and in washington, robert gibbs. >> a lot of stuff going on last night. you guys see -- any of you guys see paul and ringo? >> yes. >> no. >> i read some of the reviews of
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their first appearance on "the ed sullivan show." hysterically funny. >> did you see how horrible they were? >> oh, yeah, they'll never make it. they'll never last. >> too wild. >> yeah. >> yeah, i read a lot of that stuff. it was kind of cool to go back there. >> yeah. yeah. i also love the -- when they rejected -- the guy that rejected them, famously said, the record deal, that guy, i think it was, groups with guitars are on their way out. >> what happened? >> nothing. my pajamas were wrinkled. how was your weekend? >> it was so busy. i went to the knicks game. >> did you? how was that? did they win? >> yes, they did. >> yeah? >> the second time i've gone, and they've won. >> oh, good. >> yeah. >> i saw lots -- there were celebrities -- >> who did you see there? >> i saw seth meyers, and christie brinkley, and i wanted to talk to her, but she was getting accosted in the
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bathroom. i felt bad. >> how was she, polite? >> so nice. >> who else did you see? >> woody allen. >> i did not see woody allen. >> he's a regular. >> oh, no, i think there's an issue, actually. >> really? >> there was an issue with one -- >> yeah, he's busy right now. >> yeah, he got kicked out -- >> yeah, kicked out. >> who else did you see? >> katie couric. my friend's sons zsh who else? >> did you run into anybody? >> who did i see? i can't remember. who? who did i say the next morning? wait. kevin bacon. >> oh, he was very nice. >> he's got a show. and he's going to come on the show. >> mika asked kevin bacon -- >> this was embarrassing. i embarrassed my party. >> are you doing anything? >> tom and sylvia. >> kevin bacon. looked at his shoes -- >> everybody looked down at their shoes that -- >> so he's going to come on. i'm going to call his person, alice.
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>> since you've been so nice to him, right? >> such a loser. anyhow. oh! and bill o'reilly was there. >> oh, really? >> was he nice? >> yeah, well -- >> no, come on, tell me the truth. >> i was telling him about his interview with the president. >> how was he back to you? was he nice -- >> i felt that he felt i babbled too much. >> but was he nice to you? yes or no? >> i think, like christie brinkl brinkley, tired of people coming up to him. >> i heard he was extraordinarily rude. but that's bill. he's not a chatter. >> no. >> that's who he is. >> no, he's just -- sometimes people are one way on tv. i don't know. >> he's going to do what he's going to do. >> you say hi and boom -- >> it's, like, who's who? i was a people watcher. >> a lot of stars. >> uh-huh. >> speaking of woody allen -- >> no, don't start me. >> he started this thing on friday. and i'm curious, what did you think of it? >> ratner? >> are you asking me? >> mika, you don't want to --
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>> i'll talk. >> what do you think about woody allen's defense? >> i came away thinking two sides to every story. and both of the people, mia farrow and woody are a little bit unusual, a screw loose, whatever you want to call it. i really have no idea what happened between them. >> well, one thing i thought about, reading it, the guy should have at least said, hey, i understand. i get married. >> thank you. >> the most bizarre of circumstances. at the very least. >> thank you, joe. >> that doesn't make him a child molester. >> literally, he -- >> you know what, this happens, i'm okay, you're okay. you know? so i married somebody else who happened to be my -- >> my girlfriend's -- >> my wife's adopted daughter. you know, i think that would have made the piece stronger for him. >> it was a totally dysfunctional family, that part is clear. and now, when you read it, you become involved in the dysfunction of this family. >> all families are
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dysfunctional. >> the reader is uncomfortable. to woody allen's point, or steve's point, rather, there are two sides, especially the stories like this. whether you believe woody allen or whether you believe mia farrow and dylan farrow, you know, that's up to you. >> yeah. >> but the point is, woody allen is not exactly the kind of guy that's going to say, as you pointed out, i understand where she's coming from. i understand the business. i understand what i did to create this -- >> yeah, none of this. none of that. >> tell us what you think. >> in the piece, he does talk directly to the fact that he believes -- dylan believes this happened. >> yeah. >> because she -- >> that is just very generous of him. >> -- that this has been the way that she has grown up. and understands that is monstrous event happened to her and all of this played out in the public eye, and it went through court vetting, but it wasn't enough to go on and continue. but it just -- it is sad all around. >> there's wood stuff in there, if you believe woody allen, just the part to describe where even
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after mia few about him and sun yi, they continued to carry on in public, and so, you say to yourself, that's just not how i think probably the five of us around the set would have rea reacted to those circumstances. >> what did you think? >> i thought it was incredibly arrogantly written. and i think that he somehow perceives himself to be a vic m victim. >> oh, he absolutely does. >> and that's crazy. and he's got to take some responsibility for whatever happened, and i guess we'll never know. i've let this table know what my opinion is from reading both identifies. everybody has an opinion. it's really none of our business. but my god, you know, at some point, if you don't take responsibility for the reaction people have to the actions in your life and the pane that you might have caused, then it's kind of hard to believe you. i have a hard time believing him. >> yeah. all right. let's go on to the news. >> to the news. new jersey's biggest paper has a
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case of buyer's remorse. "the newark star ledger" endorsed governor chris christie in his bid for re-election, but now the editors say, quote, we blew this one, and some gop candidates are steering clear of him, as well. governor christie heads to chicago tomorrow for a republican governors association fund-raiser. but none of the four candidates from his party plan to attend. meanwhile, over the weekend, politico reported that a tough rebuke of david wildstein was never actually read by the governor himself. how is that possible? >> incredible. >> that's incredible. >> mike, is that possible? is that possible? ? well, apparently it is possible. he claims he never saw it, which i think would eliminate him from being a candidate for the president of the united states. that this stuff is going on at the staff level. the staff is so incompetent, so amateur basically -- >> i don't believe that. >> i don't believe he didn't see it. i think it backfired -- did
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chris christie deny -- i think some unnamed whoever -- no, there's no way he didn't see it. and if he didn't see it, then, yeah, that causes some extraordinarily difficult situations. just like, you know, last week, we had "the new york times" reporter on here, and i, despite all of the back-and-forth of what was going on, i still can't believe a governor has the busiest bridge in the world going through his state, and he has no idea until he reads about it in the "wall street journal," on though he said he read about it earlier -- again, i'm not saying i'd change my position on this as far as whether -- you know, i still take him at his word, that he didn't know about the retribution stuff. but he's just digging himself a deeper hole. please don't tell me that he didn't know about this hit job on wildstein. >> well, look, either way, it's a terrible outcome. >> either way, it's terrible. >> either he didn't know, and yet again, he has this hard-to-believe idea this stuff going out from his office, and he has no idea what it is. or he did know, and he
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authorized them going back to his high school years and all this other stuff. >> and again, robert gibbs, i go back to the governor really didn't know the busiest bridge in the world that runs into -- you know, is shut down? because i tell you what, everybody else in the tristate area knew. it was being reported. and i think he said before for bergen county -- okay, so anyway, let's talk politics for a second. so this newspaper that's retracted their endorsement always hated him. he doesn't care about that. >> hates a lot of people. >> what he does care about, though, is when you have news reports that four congressmen are running from him and don't want to campaign with him in the heartland, that for chris christie is the bad news. that's what's got to be turned around. not the "star ledger." they've always hated him. they made assumptions in this piece they shouldn't have made. but go ahead. >> well, i wonder how many stops he's made since the initial
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allegations on the bridge came out that involved he and his staff, how many of those trips have the candidates in the states he's travelled to actually showed up publicly for an event with him? i think the answer to that is zero, and i know he's been to florida. i think last week he was in texas. this week, he's in illinois. and, you know, joe, you really do have to wonder, does he have any idea what's happening in his office? and how many times can you play the card of "i had no idea this was going on in my own office"? this is by all accounts an office that he controls -- >> robert, it's getting to the point where he's starting to sound like barack obama. "i had no idea until i read about it in the paper," whether it was a.p., or fox, or irs, or -- >> i knew there was a limit to your capacity to be critical of chris christie, and i think we've reached it. >> what is it with the politicians -- >> i am, actually, barnicle, i'm sorry to rudely cut off robert
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there. >> yeah, i'm overwrought. >> okay, robert, let me put it to you this way, go back to you. so what's irritated a lot of us republicans over the past year is the fact that every time bad news comes out, barack obama says, oh, i had no idea, until i read about it in the paper. i'm just as angry as you. and now they've got the guy that wants to be president of the united states saying, oh, hey, i didn't know about this until i read about it in the paper, despite the fact it was in my own backyard, and i'm just as mad as you. you can't understand why some republicans would be a little concerned with chris christie sounding a lot, in our opinion, like barack obama over the past year, right? >> well, i don't know whether he sounds like barack obama. i certainly know that he sounds as if he has no idea, like i said, what goes on in a statement that came from his office. the decision by deputy chief of staff, as you said, to close the
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world's busiest bridge. i mean, again, i think you can only use that so many times. and, again, i go back to him as the head of the rga. you wonder if this is a role that serves governor christie well at this point, or serves the rga that well. and i think, look, this is a guy that's got to do a lot to get his house in order. if he's not going to have a political future nationally. >> yeah. >> if he's going to continue to have a political future in new jersey. >> yeah, i like chris. i trust chris. i still take him at his word. but i'm always blunt. and the fact is right now he's a distraction to the rga. if the republicans' job is electing governors, and you have a guy running the rga that has republican candidates running away from them, that's a serious problem, and he needs to sit down and do some soul searching and see whether he wants to defend charges against him or continue this. i don't think he can do both. >> all right. we'll keep following this. a couple of other stories we want to get in here.
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this is the headline that many are waking up to on the front page of "usa today." the outlook rosy this year after pallid start. job gains are expected to average $200,000 a month, but after friday's dismal report, some are questioning whether the predictions can be trusted. economy added 113,000 jobs for the month of january. and it was the second straight month the jobs numbers failed to meet expectations. december's dismal numbers were revised upwards by 1,000. >> so, steve, you're looking at the numbers. what's going on here? >> so the economy does appear to have hit another slow patch. the january numbers, which are not good, are a little hard to explain, even by things like weather. in december, when we had a not-good number, we explained it by weather. you can see on the chart that back in december we had only 74,000 jobs and that was revised
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up slightly, and you see this small increase here. and if you look kind of at the trend line over the past year, you see a big deceleration in the rate that jobs are being created. >> which, of course, nothing in this economy makes sense. the head -- the front page of the "usa today" talking about a rosy forecast this year. what do you think? >> by their nature, economists tend to be a bit optimistic, but i like to be optimistic. if you look at the federal reserve's projections for the last five years, i think every single year they've been more optimistic than the economy actually produced. i think most people think the economy will be a little bit better this year. in part, because the enormous contraction of the government budget deficit is kind of coming to an end, and that itself will help the economy recover a little bit. >> you have been across the country. i saw you tweet last night, because i'm down with the kids -- >> across the world. >> he was in sweden. >> -- watching the beatles sort of this nice little thing going on, and reading steve ratner's tweets, and it all goes together. synchronicity, as sting would
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say. what did you see? give us your report as you come back to the homeland. >> did you like stockholm? >> i like stockholm. what was interesting was i was mostly in the stronger countries -- in sweden, in germany, in the u.k., in london, which certainly -- >> so we look really weak compared -- >> but we didn't. >> exactly. >> we didn't. that's just the thing. that whatever problems we have here -- and we have no shortage of problems as we talk about -- the entrepreneurial spirit here, the drive, the kind of can-do, let's get it done attitude, it's just very different. europe is -- morves slower. they have a mess of the problem in terms of euro currency and how they deal with each other. i came back thinking to myself, i would not trade our lot in life for theirs. >> we sit around and kick ourselves, whether there's a republican in the white house, a democrat in the white house, and we talk about the problems here. i said last week, i count myself in the 3%.
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it said in the "wall street journal" poll, that are optimist tick about where the country is going, because i hear from so many people that, you know, whether they're british or french, or they say whenever they land in america, for all of our problems, it just feels different. and they feel like anything's possible. and they say they don't feel that in their own home country. i'm not being jingoistic, mike. i'm telling you what i hear every day. they say i still, in this country, you guys don't see it. but i land here, and i immediately feel like i can do anything. >> that's not -- we're the last to see it. we're the last to feel it, because we're here. that's unless they land at la guardia airport. >> yes, now, la guardia, you know, like how did i -- >> yeah. let me ask you, is it possible -- and i agree with you about our sense of we can do it, our entrepreneurial spirit -- but is it possible we are entering a phase -- i don't know how long that phase will be -- where there are just going to be fewer jobs? >> well, there are going to be
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more jobs, but maybe not as many more jobs as we need. that's really the problem. the other problem we have in this country is our incomes aren't growing. that when you look at -- this came out in the same report last friday as the jobs numbers, that year-over-year incomes are unchanged. >> stagnant. >> that make it is hard to create demand and create jobs. compare that to 12% unemployment in europe, and you look at the thing from "usa today" where they're talking about 3% growth, maybe it will be 2.5%, some number like that, europeans would kill to have 2.5% growth. they have 25% unemployment in spain. coming up on "morning joe," zookeepers in copenhagen had a healthy, young giraffe they no longer needed. so what did they do? >> they ate it? >> they butchered it in front of a bunch of kids and fed it to lions. >> see, this happens in --
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>> the unbelievable story is next. >> who does that? that is awful. >> that's what my husband wants to do to our dog. >> your dog probably deserves it. >> no, it probably just has a little problem. >> he bites you! he peas all over the place! jim's right. >> we need to work with him. >> yeah. >> no, i have a little hole in my finger. >> so how many animals do you have? >> i love him. >> how many -- >> three, at least. >> i have three. since you have 200, you can actually chop him up and feed him to the cat and dog. >> first, here's bill karins with a check on the forecast. >> mika, you missed your opportunity. joe asked you how many animals do you have, and surrounded by them every day. good morning, everyone. here's what we're dealing with. the west coast, got your stormy weather over the weekend. that's great. we need it because of the drought. unfortunately, the storms on the west coast have to come to the east coast, and we're still frigidly cold. what was rain for the west coast, could be a snow event this week. let's talk about the good. 2.5 inches for san francisco. and we're going to get nailed.
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it looks like a good deal of rain is on the way throughout the next seven days for the west. good for you. you need it. we need the snow pack. now for the east, the cold air is on the way. it's a frigid morning. it's going to be a frigid day from minneapolis to chicago, and we're setting the stage for our snowstorm in the east. as all of the cold air slides east, the stormy weather from the west heads down to the gulf, and then the moisture comes up the east coast, and it looks like a high-impact winter storm. first starting tomorrow near areas like dallas, oklahoma city, and then it's going to spread through the southeast tuesday. wednesday, it looks like the deep south, even atlanta could get more snow and ice. and then for wednesday night into thursday, just a classic, it looks like east coast snowstorm with sleet mixing in and coastal sections. again, a plowable event. some areas likely getting significant snow. we'll have more updates, of course, as the week comes by. leaving you with a shot of sochi. beautiful mountains there in russia. usa, we're not doing so shabby so far. you're watching "morning joe." ♪
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time now to take a look at the "morning papers," "the new york post" -- 3,000 birds are safe this morning after the largest dockfighting -- cockfighting takedown in new york state history. 70 were taken into custody. the bust that spread across three counties is being dubbed operation angry birds. officials raided stores in brooklyn, queens, and investigators stormed a farm in
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upstate new york where the birds were allegedly raised and trained. well, "the new york times," thousands of people are outraged after denmark zoo killed a healthy giraffe. over the weekend, zoo officials said they had a giraffe surplus -- i never heard of that, except maybe on the neverland ranch back in the mid-'80s, and they shot the animal to prevent inbreeding. spectators including children were able to watch as the autopsy was performed by scientists. the carcass of the 2-year-old giraffe was then fed to other animals. the zoo declined offers from other zoos, and animal rights groups, to take the giraffe in. that's bizarre. scientists say 20 to 30 animals are put down at the copenhagen zoo every year. i think we should send your little dog spice -- >> spice, he's so cute. >> -- there's nothing cute about him. >> i love spice. >> he's all over the place. >> there's an opening in copenhagen. >> yeah, hey, spice, exactly. >> you need to work with him.
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he's a rescue. he had a kidney stone. >> you get these rescues, like this rescue cat you got. >> i know. >> they end up costing, like, $3,000 -- >> four. >> $4,000. so jim is, like, you know what, let's not get the rescues anymore. let's just get a pure bred. it will be cheaper. >> they need to be rescued. >> who gets a rescue with a kidney stone? >> well, it was a big kidney stone, too. he was very uncomfortable. so he's going to be okay, right, steve? >> right. >> yeah. >> all right. what's "l.a. times" -- >> i always agree with mika. >> you agree with mika? ride it out. >> i don't know anything about it, i just agree with mika. >> what a shock. >> "the los angeles times," coffee lovers in los angeles waited for hours just to get their hands on a dumb starbucks. the mock store opened this weekend, and it's a similar logo to traditional starbucks. its creators are calling it an art parody and say they're not breaking any laws.
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it has dumb espressos, dumb lattes, and it's all free. they can pick up a dumb jazz cd at the counter. is it because it's also expensive, it's so dumb that you pay $4 for something that costs 25 cents to make, or -- >> i don't know. >> -- what's the point of the art? what's the message? >> i don't know. i do know this. the "washington post" writes that the lego movie won big at the box office -- >> you went. >> yeah ey did. i saw it with my kids. it was awesome. that's the theme song. ♪ everything is awesome so the film crew, it was more than a kiddie flick. about 60% of the audience over the age of 18. the animated movie pulled in $69 million, making it the biggest opening of the year, and the second-best february open ever. and it really was. >> i want to go to that. >> it was a very well done movie, and it was actually one -- one viewer said it was actually a movie for adults that
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scattered in a few jokes for kids. >> and jack loved it, right? >> oh, jack, kate loved it. they want to see it again. and all weekend, every time they were happy, they'd just stop and go -- ♪ everything is awesome >> that's so cute. >> it's about a dictator taking over. anyway. with us now, we have contributing editor for "new york magazine," his latest feature, looks at bill de blasio's landslide victory and what it means for the democratic party. >> and in it, he writes, by virtue of running and winning, as the left-most candidate in a democratic primary in an overwhelmingly democratic city, bill de blasio's become a national figure. but politics is as much hype and art as it is science. and so, de blasio is now a beacon to liberals across the country, which is why his local skirmish with cuomo is about
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more about funding kinder guarden, it's a foreshadowing. >> this is also happening nationally for the democratic party. i read a story, trying to remember now, but since i read stories at 2:00 a.m., i sometimes forget, but a national figure going too far left and it's causing concerns with democrats -- but this really is, this is a foreshadowing. a lot of people, of course, it's for barack obama get it is from both sides -- conservatives think he's too liberals, but liberals have been frustrated he hasn't been progressive enough, and they're looking to people like bill de blasio. >> yeah, and steve touched on one of the core issues here with both the number of jobs and the weak pay numbers. you know, a lot of people are hurting out there. yes, we're relatively better off than a lot of countries, our future's probably brighter than a lot of places, but whether it's in san diego, a traditionally conservative political environment where they're talking about income inequality in the mayor's race,
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or in alabama, you know, where the governor's spending money on prekindergarten. they're not all imitating de blasio necessarily, but they're picking up on a lot of the same themes. >> actually, it was charlie crist, i remember, being attacked by florida democrats for going too far left on a lot of different issues, and it sounds a lot like what's happening in new york, the battle between cuomo and de blasio. >> no, there's been a battle back and forth, and, chris, it's interesting how you point out the difference between the clintons, and how they're the bridge between the two. explain that. >> well, you know, hillary clinton at this point looks inevitable. she's got tremendous strengths. if she, in fact, runs in 2016 for president. but she's very much an establishment figure. i mean, republicans who will always claim she's a communist, socialist, you know, too far left or -- >> right. >> -- within the democratic ranks, she's very much a centrist. and there's a lot of pent-up
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reaction to the 2008 financial crisis. and you've seen it sort of institutionalized. it's gone past occupy wall street into things like bill de blasio being elected mayor of new york city. so how that plays out, you know, certainly there's a long-running tension in democratic politics between the left wing and the electable figures. and even if hillary, you know, goes wire-to-wire in a democratic primary, there's going to be considerable pressure on her from the grassroots to accommodate some of the issues. >> you know, of course, as you know, it's almost unprecedented for someone to go wire-to-wire in a primary by the party. and so, there's going to be some competition. i agree with you, what you see forming in the party is the constellation of people like de blasio, like elizabeth warren, and brian schweitzer, who says he's now running for president, and you know the history of new york mayor is going on to sort of a national platform is not very good, whether you're talking about
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lindsey or giuliani, so i don't know if de blasio himself is the guy, but he does symbolize within my party anyway, i wouldn't call them the old guard as much as the centrists and much more progressive wing. >> yeah, and i'm by no means suggesting bill de blasio is a candidate a year from now, but whether it's as a validater for people in the center like hillary clinton, or, you know, sought after by somebody like schweitzer who sees an opening to the left. you know, de blasio has an interesting history here, because he came up through the clinton ranks in some ways, and, you know, is not nearly as radical in his policy proposals as a lot of folks would like to caricature him. >> all right. chris smith, thank you very much. >> thank you, chris. fascinating. up next, aol got an instant message over the weekend. why the company is quickly reversing course on its 401(k) program after some fierce
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aol's ceo is under fire following comments he made during a town hall meeting with employees, while telling workers that the company plans to cut back on 401(k) plans. tim armstrong blamed costs associated with the birth of, quote, two distressed babies. now, one of the two moms is speaking out. and armstrong is backtracking. nbc's christen dahlgren has more. >> reporter: for deanna fay, every day with her daughter is a miracle. little mila was born three months premature. >> on her first day, we were told that we had a -- i'm sorry, a one-third chance of her dying before we would ever be able to bring her home. >> reporter: fei's husband worked for aol. last week, tim armstrong announced in a town hall meeting it was changing its 401(k) benefit, saying in addition to the riding costs of health care, it had paid $1 million each for what he called two distressed babies born to aol staffers.
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he didn't name the families, but fei knew. >> it was sort of impossible to process that he was talking about my daughter, who was home with me at that time. you know, to hear her labelled a distressed baby -- and to me, there did sound like the implication that somehow we were greedy consumers of health care benefits. that we had kind of gobbled up more than our share of the pie. >> reporter: fei wasn't alone in her shock. the internet lit up with criticism, and aol quickly did an aboutface, we storing its original 401(k) policy. in a letter to the staff, armstrong said, i made a mistake, and i apologize for my comments last week at the town hall, when i mentioned specific health care examples in trying to explain our decision-making process. nbc news reached out to aol, and a spokesperson said armstrong has apologized personally to the family. >> and he's spoken in very heartfelt ways about how badly he feels for having caused us
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this hurt. and i accept that. >> reporter: but for fei, who wrote an article in "slate" magazine that's now gone viral, it's about her baby. >> i think it's important to have the national conversations about health care spending that we are having, but i also think it's important to keep in mind the lives that are sometimes, you know, so tiny, so vulnerable, so perilous that are really what we're talking about. >> reporter: a mom putting a face on a national conversation. >> that was nbc's christen dahlgren with that report. still ahead, it's one of the most popular games out there right now, but the developer behind flappy bird says he's pulling it off the market. we're going to explain why, coming up next in business. what if you could shrink your pores just by washing your face?
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i'm not afraid of who i am. i'm not afraid to tell the world who i am. i am michael sam. i'm a college graduate. i'm african-american, and i'm gay. >> pretty amazing revelation there. that was michael sam, one of the top defensive prospects in college football. today, he is poised to become the first openly gay professional football player in the history of the game. many are praising sam's bravery in discussing his sexuality so close to the draft, an announcement that could cost him draft position, and with that millions of dollars. no one is questioning this guy's sports resume. he was defensive player of the year for the southeastern conference and first-team all american. the teammates voted him mvp even after they knew he was gay, and tweets of support from many of them came pouring in, but others hinted at the challenges that face this untaken road before. some league managers said some would be accepting but others believed the attention could turn into a distraction and media circus, and one nfl scout said many locker rooms are stuck
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in the 1950s. one gm told "sports illustrated" anonymously, the reality is he's an overrated football player in our estimation. the official went on to say the question you will ask yourself, knowing your team is, how will drafting him affect your locker room? and i'm sorry to say where we are at this point in time, it's going to affect most locker rooms. a lot of guys will be uncomfortable. ten years from now, fine. we turn now to business news, and the chronicle of philanthropy is out with the most charitable americans from 2013. atop that list, we see mark zuckerberg and his wife, priscilla, donated nearly $1 billion, rounding out the top five, energy tycoon george mitchell, nike founder phil knight, michael bloomberg and hedge fund founder john arnold and his wife, laura. and the most popular game out there, the developer of flappy bird, took the game down midnight last night. the game developer says it has
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♪ welcome back to "morning joe." here with us now deputy managing editor of "the boston globe" doug most, the author of "the race underground." doug, great to have you here. >> thank you. >> barnicle, we'll wait to let him ask a question because he's biassed about boston. but explain how you got interested in telling this story. >> sure. so i'm someone who years ago when i was a newspaper reporter in new jersey, i covered transit issues, covered the port authority and covered new jersey transit. and just always been interested
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in public transit. moved up to boston. one of the things about boston that's interesting is the subway in boston, the t, the first subway built in america, and a lot of people know that, but don't know the story behind it. it's never really been told. i started looking into that for a possible look. as i looked into it, i discovered the new york subway and boston subway were built at the exact same time, which was fascinating to me. after years and centuries of debate of how to move people around the two cities, literally four months apart, put to a vote in their respective cities about whether to build subways after decades and decades of debate. four months apart. >> when it came to city planning, was this more about weather issues or mass people movele? >> it was he'lly -- really about both. for a long time, people were terrified of the underground. it was seen as a place you don't go unless you were dead. it was a place where people were afraid of going down there. they thought varmens live down there -- >> they do. >> yeah, they do. >> they did not want to go down
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there. but what happened was there were a couple of pivotal events, one was the blizzard of 1888 happened. that sort of was a trigger for cities to sort of decide, we need to fix this, because the entire northeast was crippled and they could not move around. when that happened, that's when they decided to look at how moving people through the cities, and the subway became a solution. >> it's so much history, the growth of each system depended on part on calamity -- blizzards and things like that. and fast forward all these years later, the calamity in new york -- >> yes. >> -- as you're familiar with, is traffic and congestion. so the growth of this subway. in boston, it's still clearly evident it was the first subway system in the country, because it performs like it was the first subway system in the country. >> yes. >> but why can't we attract more people, do you think, to the common sense idea of getting on the subway to go to new york, and making cities so much cleaner, better, more efficient?
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>> i think the subway -- it's interesting, there is a little boomer happening in subways. a number of projects around the country happening, including right here, the 2nd avenue subway project is one of the world's largest projects happening. and it's being built by the company that built the first branch of the new york subway more than a century ago. william bar clay parsons was the founder of that company. fascinating guy. went to columbia. sort of started this company with his brother, and here it is years later, built boston's big dig and built -- it's building the second avenue sub, so a great connection between the two cities. >> can you talk about the family connection, the two brothers? >> yeah, so many fascinating characters in the book. that's what drew me to it. so there were two brothers from a great american family, the whitney family. and when we think about the name whitney today, certainly we think about the whitney museum of art in new york. >> right. >> and number of other things, including eli whitney, all of us
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remember from our childhood. this family grew up in massachusetts and the two brothers sort of parted ways. one went to new york, one went to boston. and they each were instrumental in deciding for their cities to build the subway. william whitney almost ran for president and could have been the president of the united states if he wanted to be. he was the man who got grover cleveland elected president and was recruited to run and chose not to. while his brother became the man, if you know boston, you know the town of brookline, he's the guy that devised the tracks that run right up beacon street in brookline. so they were both -- >> they were both attracted to city planning -- >> big businessmen attracted to city planning issues and urban transit, and all those things, and they both played instrumental roles. >> were they competitive? was there a competition -- >> i was going to say, a sibling rivalry, to have the better mass transit system? >> they were paying attention to it. there was a great quote in "the new york times," they had a line that said so conservative an
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american city could be the first to open a subway, you could tell it sort of galled new yorkers a little bit. >> sure. >> we both wanted this, and yet, how did they get there first? you could tell it happened. new york opened seven years later. of course, new york system was much bigger and expanded much bigger than boston's. but boston did get there first. >> "the globe" for people who don't know where it's located physically in boston, is in the dorchester section of boston. where do you live in greater boften? >> now i live out in the suburbs. i lived in jamaica plain for about eight years. >> did you ever take the subway to work? >> all the time. the orange line to the red line. today, i take the commuter rail in, which puts me on the red line. you knowing i'm a huge subway rider. i love riding subways. >> even in boston? going back and forth between both cities, it's unimaginable to me how few people, comparatively speaking, take the subway in boston as compared to the absolute vital necessity in new york. >> it really is. some of that has to do with scale. the boston subway system goes so
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far and only reaches out soar fa. the new york system is just mammoth in comparison. but, yeah, you're right, there is a volume issue at stake here, as well. that both cities -- one city, it's the life blood of the city in new york, and boston is sort of an accessory. it's an important part. >> an option. >> yeah. >> love the idea and the back story. it's called "the race underground." thank you, sir. we'll be back with more of "morning joe" after this. another arctic air mass is heading down from canada. it will be cold today. from minneapolis all the way down into the ohio valley. now, that's going to meet up
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mika, what did you learn today? >> that dr. oz needs to come back. >> yeah, he was great. i need to stay away from white bread. what did you learn? >> yeah, a great, whole new life. >> yeah, on that, hrc is the book to read. >> yeah. pretty good. no control over. >> yeah, love it. very good. if it's way too early, mike, what time is it? >> normally, it's time for "morning joe," but right now, right now, chuck todd. our old pal chuck todd. >> who does he have on? >> several people. the 1955 philadelphia athletics. >> no, not only that.
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art linkletter will be on. he'll talk about how kids say the darnedest things. we'll see you tomorrow on "morning joe." so we didn't learn much. midterms on the mind. with nine months to go, six is the magic number for the gop. we'll tell you what story lines to watch on the senate side of things. by the way, we're not in kansas anymore. and perhaps neither is republican senator pat roberts, who's now facing a primary challenge and a residency issue. meanwhile, how classy will san diego stay? anything's better than filner these days, you would imagine, six months after his fall from grace. voters head to the polls tomorrow. a growing hispanic community are democrats. demographics truly destiny in california. and the medals are stacking up in sochi, and so are security concerns as the first full week of the winter games gets under way. leg