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cycling like bruce springsteen in the '70s and '80s s shts keep cominging the new jersey committee investigate the lane closures behind closed doors preparing more subpoenas. also figuring out what to do with the two key players in all of this who refuse to comply with previous subpoenas. busy watching the olympics, you miss it the editorial board at "the star ledger" now says it regrets their 2013 endorsement of the man saying, quote, yes, we knew christie was a bully. who didn't know his crew was crazy enough to put people's lives at risk in ft. lee and use hurricane sandy aid as a political slush fund and didn't know don zimmer sitting on a charge of extortion. the childist memo attacking david wildstein?

now says christie now about it while politico reports it was sent by a rogue aide before christie signed off on it? is that supposed to make the people feel better? how many rogue aides can one aide have? steve kornacki hear to add perspective. now the story, christie did not review the note sent out about david wildstein. so, again, his posture, i didn't know anything about it, i have rogue aides take me down a road i don't want to go on. he's not in control of his people or he's the bully of new jersey. >> again, like you said, that new version, sort of conflicts with everything that we know about chris christie, everything we know about how he has run the governor's office, had his hands in everything that has come out the press shop, everything the guy has done. ease been unusually hands on in

all area. the idea on a matter this sensitive, at a moment this precarious for this governor that some low-level aid would slip in something incredibly inflammatory, something that's ridiculed by the press for the next week is hard for people to know the governor in the office to reconcile that. the two most plausible things in most people's minds, one, yeah, christie knew about this, after taking so much heat and grief in the press for four days they decided to come out with an explanation, no, he didn't know about it after all, tried to play it that way. the other, i think more, reason. >> explanation is, maybe christie didn't know about it but for a statement like this to get out of the governor's office to get through the press shop to get into wild circulation without christie knowing about it have to be coming, logically speaking, coming from someone very, very close to him. >> steve, you know david wildstein. how do you think his social stud y-teacher did feel about him? >> right.

>> what i want to ask you about -- >> i like that question. >> we can talk about that later maybe. seeming changed in the story from the mayor of ft. lee, new jersey. one of the thing you and others have been trying find out, yes the bridge was closed for political retribution but what was that involve in because the mayor didn't endorse? did it have to do with a major development project? the mayor seemed to say i didn't feel pressured for an endorsement that piece doesn't make sense. how seems to be saying he was pressured for endorsement. >> i think the thing you need to understand about mark, if you've watched his interviews, my big takeaway impression of mark is that he's a guy who does a lot of thinking out loud. the result is different interviews where he said, little bits and pieces of things and

he's been responding to whatever the question directly he's asked. so, it creates impression, when he sits down with this guy, the story that says he's changing his story came out in the bergen record friday. sounds like he sat down with mike kelly, columnist for a couple of hours and mike kelly took him through everything. mike kelly says we have a cohesive narrative, wow, it's changed from this and changed from that. if you tape together all of the different interviews given, i didn't see anything that was that major, that was that new in the interview that he gave on friday. what he said on friday there were little gestures from christie and christie's crew, in hindsight, looks like they were doing outreach, their subtle way to get me to endorse, there was a man who tried to say, look, there's a democratic mayor here, endorsing the governor 0 is it

something you might? i'm a democratic mayor. he told me about david wildstein meeting him at ground zero, told to treat him well. what he still -- i talked to him as recently as last thursday, what he still unable to tell you, okay, look back to august that infamous e-mail, right? asked about an endorsement close to the e-mail? he says, no. any contact, any communication with somebody the administration, somebody in the campaign side, somebody on christie's team, any where near where the e-mail went out you could see some linkage? she's been asked that by me, by others and again, answer comes back no. i think this is an open question about motive. >> right. the biggest news, i think, coming out of the weekend, might have come from the sta"star led" who endorsed christie in 2013, very much questions that decision saying we blew this

one. we regard christie as the most overrated politician in the country. at least until now better at talking than governing. this in many ways, i think, brings to light some flaws beyond just the politic. no one's talking about this. i hate to say this, as a fan of christie, at least before the scandal broke i thought he could be someone good for the party longer term. if you look at his record as governor, in terms of job creation, it's ranked number 44 unemployment still above the national average. so no matter how this ends, it really opens up a can of worms, not just about leadership but the job he's doing as governor. >> well said. the fact that "the star ledger" endorsed him last year if we remember that endorsement, a grudging endorsement. but it did speak to how effective he was at within new jersey, breaking across the traditional democrat/republican divide in new jersey. >> we see how he did it, right? >> i'll tell you, look, you could see -- i will say there

are a lot of wade -- i mean one of the debates we're having about christie, where is the line? certain things here, alleged if true, are clearly absolutely over the line. but another truth about the christie governorship has been, christie's somebody who really flexed the muscle of the governor's office in a way that previous governors hadn't. and now i'm not talking here about the bridge, i'm just talking about generally how he conducted himself as governor. he was probably the most effective governoring take that positive/negative, effective getting his agenda through the new jersey scene in modern time. new jersey governorship comes with so many different levers that you can use to apply pressure. i'm not talking about the bridge stuff here, just talking about day to day governoring. he was better at understanding levers and using them than any governor i've seen in modern times in new jersey. >> i have mixed feelings about the endorsement retraction on on the one hand if media makes a mistake and want to explain

themselves, that's probably good. on the other hand, it may be late if the endorsement was for the elections. it may be late to let everybody know, by the way, you shouldn't vote for this guy just re-ele re-elected i want to ask you about the ongoing u.s. attorney investigation. a lot of political attention on allegations back and forth with wildstein. we understand why that's politically interesting. didn't this depends on fischman, whether he brings in christie, senior aides potentially to testify in a grand jury where they can't plead the fifth? >> you've got, that we know of, two tracks to this. one the bridge investigation, why why were lanes closed? who ordered? what kind of cover? the second, mayors from hoboken, pressured, sandy aid. we know the u.s. attorney's

office quick to respond to the allegations and to begin looking into them. what's less clear is how engaged the u.s. attorney's office is on the bridge question. is that something more right now that's being led by the legislature and less out of fishman's office. 180 degrees from his predecessor, chris christie, when it came to these things. anybody who watched christie conduct himself as u.s. attorney in a similar position to this would have moved in, told the legislature to shut down the committee, stop i subpoenas, i'm taking the investigation over, you probably have a lot of leaks, stuff make its way into the press. chris christie loved the big headline grabbing investigation of politician. paul fishman, a different type of u.s. attorney. frustrating to people to follow this. you're going to be in the dark more where his investigation is or isn't going than you would wb with chris christie. >> why we rely on you. >> exactly. >> you raise an important point.

that's how it's supposed to be, it shouldn't be political leaks, they should figure it out, see where it lands. >> thank you. mr. new jersey, steve cokornack. watch our friend on "up with steve kornacki" weekends on msnbc. this weekend he was off, because of the olympics. next, five gold medals up for grabs today in sochi. will michael sam change the nfl? "the cycle" rolling on. a live report from olympic park. huh...fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. mmmhmmm...everybody knows that. well, did you know that old macdonald was a really bad speller? your word is...cow. cow. cow. c...o...w... ...e...i...e...i...o. [buzzer]

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after a weekend that saw americans dominate slopestyle and teen skaters shine, exciting day of action shaping up in sochi. the latest result, take 40 seconds. there is your warning. start with the current medal count. norwegians and the dutch tied at top with seven. russia, canada, u.s. all right now with five medal as piece. the u.s. standing thanks in part to skier julia mancusoing won her fourth career medal today. she got the bronze in the super combine, no other american woman has won more than two medals in skiing. u.s. women's hockey team absolutely routed the swiss, 9-0, clinching a spot in the semifinals. three goals in 55 seconds in the first period. the quickest three-goal sequence in olympic history. way to go. shani davis, returned to the track for the men's 500 meter

but was finished off the podium. the event considered a training run for his crack at history late in the games. he will look to become the first american man to win the same event at three winter games wednesday in the 1,000 meter. but it was the dutch who owned the track today, sweeping the medal podium. joining us now, brian schactman in sochi where is it after midnight but he staid up to talk to us. what are people talking about after the first weekend of competition. >> i know what i'm talking about, they said do i want to go on tv? i said, no, i'm tired. they said you can go on the cycle, i said, get my concealer and powder, i'm going on tv. >> gold medal for you. >> my maiden voyage, first run. quickly, julia mancuso, she hadn't finished higher than seventh all year. so it's an amazingly clutch performance, dedicated to her late grandfather. she was in the nbc facilities

and she's beaming, huge story. women's hockey team, routed and srland, they play canada wednesday. the two best teams in the world, and they do not like each other. i'm on the bandwagon with that sport at the olympics. i also want to talk about shaun white. pulled out of the slopestyle to focus on half pipe. tomorrow he goes for gold. if he wins, three straight golds in the event, davis is trying to do the same in the 1,000 on wednesday. mentioning the slopestyle snowboard i don't know if you got to see sage kotsenburg and jamie anderson today, he's like sp spicolli, and she's this sweet person. everyone talking about how dangerous the course was. they're like, listen, this is awesome and we're comfortable here and it translated into gold.

they're not faking it on tv talking about shredding it anding stoked. that's how they communicate even to their parents. >> both of them look totally comfortable out there. thanks, brian. conce concealer's working for you. >> thank you. >> turning now to another big sports story, even the president is talking about today, a college football star comes out and is poised to become the first publicly gay pro football player. president obama just tweeted, congratulations on leading the w way@mikesamfootball. michael sam came out publicly over the weekend, analysts say he could go as high as the third round in may's draft. will his announcement help or hurt his draft stock? that is what we will spin on. and first of all congratulations, so proud. so courageous. i have to say, there are retrograde stuff coming out of the nfl right now in terms of

reaction that makes me fearful that it could actually impact his draft selection. "sports illustrated" had a bunch of quotes, this from an nfl player personnel assistant saying i don't think football is ready for an openly gay player yet. in the coming decade or two it's going to be acceptable. at this point in time, it's still a man's man game. to call somebody a gay slur is still so common place, it would chemically imbalance an nfl locker room and meeting room. >> wow. >> unbelievable. >> we need to be able to be homophobic and this guy's going to mess it up. >> here's the thing. so that point specifically, there's always a question, what happens going to happen in the locker room and the showers and all of this? he's been out to his team for the whole year. >> yep. >> he had a fantastic season. >> yep. >> voted mvp by his teammates. >> yep. >> this was not an issue in college. we would hopefully expect more from nfl players. one other quick point, once he hopefully makes the leap here,

we'll see an av wiavalanche of support. >> we'll see, the thing that jumped out about the same peter king "sports illustrated" article when he asks the general manager, do you think he'll be drafted and the general manager says no. it's going to be take a strong team, professional team, great organization. i look to see if the steelers, the packers or the patriots willing to take a chance and deal with extra stuff. the thing we're not realizing, the thing the nfl's not dealing with this, there are some gay players in the nfl already whose teammates know that they're gay. they haven't let the rest of us know. wade davis, came out a couple years ago, talked to me about that. he was an nfl player. he came out. the nfl's more ready for this than they think they are. the get the guy who can help a team win, they are to come around. >> an interesting point. it's also why he's core ranlous to come out before the draft. kudos to him. but on that point, this

homophobic concern that seems to continue to come up when we have these conversations a concern about the shower. they're going to make me feel uncomfortable. we don't know if they're going to uncomfortable. the players speaking out. jonathan vilma spoke to this most recently. take a listen. i don't want people to naturally assume we're homophobic, it's not the case. i imagine if he's next to me and i get dressed naked, taking a shower, the whole nine, and just so happened he looks at me, how am i supposed to respond? >> when it comes -- >> how am i supposed to respond? >> team sports, this is the main concern. this is why you'll see teams saying we don't want to take this on. we don't want to have older players say we are concerned about this. that's something the nfl doesn't want to deal with either. interesting to see where it goes from here. >> when you watch the reception here, it's like being in a time capsule back 20 years or a15

years to where america's dealt with this. gary gates tried to figure out how many people are gay in america, not an easy thing to measure but estimates it's around 3%, 4%, from what people self-report. when you ask americans how many people are gay, over half think it's 20%, okay, not 3, not 5, not 7%. 20%. that's a very interesting, complicated mess of misinformation or expectation, partly it comes from the way that we have dealt with people coming out. you were suppressed and obviously legally politically socially, bullied out of your identity for most of history. so what we're seeing now in certain fields that have fell behind is an atemptempt to come out. the first people who do it, what comes out after that you lift this suppression, this veil, and sundayly it's normalized. sports is a huge cultural

leader. >> you'll see more come out from here. >> yeah. that's what i think we'll see happens after michael sam is successful and the sky doesn't fall. next, more sports, my favorite. "the cycle" exclusive. the new effort in congress to pressure the washington red skins into name change. will this be a game changer? senator maria cantwell leading the charge, and she will join us next. hey kevin...still eating chalk for heartburn? yeah... try new alka seltzer fruit chews. they work fast on heartburn and taste awesome.

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president, traditionally reserved for the spouse or partner of the dignitary. he'll tour monticello jefferson's historic home and arlington cemetery before tomorrow's dinner. a state of emergency in georgia today as the south gets slammed with its second winter storm in as many weeks. governor deal promises the state's better prepared. salt spreading on the road before the snow falls. looks like our turn in the northeast and mid-atlantic thursday. models are forecasting up to a foot of snow. >> that's not all. stormy times on wall street, to start the break. stocks mixed and jittery as investors waiting to hear from the new fed chair. janet yellen will testify. she's expected to continue the fed's policy of reducing its bond-buying stimulus program. it's all clicking for the folks behind the new lego movie. >> oh. >> i have no idea what's going

on or what this place is at all. >> hi. i am princess uni kitty. >> looks great. the story of the guy taking in $70 million in the opening weekend and setting a record for warner bros. the studio that produced. already plans for a sequel. >> of course. >> world war ii flick "the monuments men" distant second and "ride along" rounded out the top three. development in the fight over the washington redskin. fans, native-american groups and su civil rights leaders criticized the team, now congress is getting involved. today, members of congress wrote to nfl commissioner roger goodell objecting to his recent claim the redskins' name honored native-americans. democratic senator maria cantwell and congressman tom cole reminding that the federal government determined the name is a slur, pointing to a

december ruling by the patent and trademark office, and they also invoked the nfl's special status under current law, writing the nfl's on the wrong side of history. it's not appropriate for this multibillion dollar 501c6 tax-exempt organization to profit from the continued degradation of tribes and indian people. it's time for the nfl to formally push for a name change for the washington football team. well, senator cantwell joins us in the guest spot for her first exclusive television interview since sending the letter to the lvl. chairs the indian affairs commission and is my old boss. welcome. how will are you. >> good to be with the group. >> very good to have you. tell us, first, what is your letter trying to achieve here? >> we want to make it clear, because commissioner goo goodde

thought it was a name honoring americans. if that's where he is, it's unacceptable for the nfl to continue to support the name of a football team that a large organization that represents a native-american all across the country in the national congress of american indians has called for the removal of that name because it represents a slur to them. >> and part of the reason your letter's gotten attention, senator, it cites the league's tax-exempt status, senator coburn introduced separate legislation to revoke that. are you specifically threatening that here? do you think congress can revoke the tax status if it owe pieces one football team's speech? >> we thought the nfl was listening and was going listen about this in issue. but that press conference, prior to the super bowl, made it clear they are going along with the perpetrated charade about this name. yes, the u.s. patent office has said they're not going to issue

a patent on this phrase because they determined that it is derogatory term. there is a follow-on case before the patent office related to the team. so, we expect them to take action. we hope the fcc will look at this issue as well as them communicating this issue. and we certainly are going to look at the tax code because right now, america has enough problems instead of giving a tax break to somebody who continues to perpetrate really what is a very racially slurred word to native-americ native-americans. >> i agree with that, senator. look, you're the chair of the senate indian affairs committee. you're not new, you've been dealing with these issues for a long time. a lot of people want to characterize the way that native-americans feel about the issues and cite certain polls that might have come out. what are you hearing from american indians, native-americans in your district, around the country about how they feel about the washington team's name? >> well, toure, i don't care

anything about a poll on this issue. i know that that's what the nfl would try to cite in their press conference. a national organization that represents over 1 million native-americans in the 65 tribes throughout our country has called for a name change. they say that this basically caricature of them and their religious beliefs is an insult. so for me, i represent over 100,000 native-americans and 29 tribed in the pacific northwest, and they support that issue as well. so, that should be enough for the nfl commissioner. that should be enough for them to push for this change. >> look, senator, you are going up against the nfl, a huge deal. that's a fight many people would not want to fight. how do you spin this in a way you're saying i'm trying to save football, not go up against football? >> first of all, there's a great website called

changethemascot.org. and it says it all. it says right there, these are human beings, just like in your last story about the player who came out. he's a human being. so to try to perpetrate, you know, the nfl of a mascot that's a ter rderogatory term is not treating the large percentage of americans in a way they want to be treated. >> i grew up in virginia, i'm a washington redskins fan and the controversy has been around for as long as i remember. i know it got kicked into high gear after 1988, when they won the super bowl. this is a conversation that we've been having for a while. do you feel that something is different this time in terms of having the elements of potential success in place? >> well, thank you. i loved the way you schooled ari on the seahawks. you definitely show that you knew what was going on. >> more than ari. >> it's a weak spot.

>> this is the issue, the issue is, is that native-americans have become a larger part of our economy, of our culture. they are now partners with the nfl in teams all across america, in my state, partners with the seahawks. in california, partners with the football team. they are advertisers, they're purchases are. and they don't deserve to be treated this way. and that's why the national congress of american indians is calling on the nfl to change the name. >> well, senator, it's interesting letter. one issue you've been working on for a long time. thank you for joining us to tell us about our effort today. >> next, an untold story of a man known simply as johnie walker. iraqi translator during the war, risked everything to fight with united states navy s.e.a.l.s and became a hero for america. you have never heard this story until now. we're going to talk to him next.

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when you're in a foreign country, your interpreter is your lifeline, especially a soldier in enemy territory. one interpreter grew so valuable to the navy s.e.a.l. his became a brother in arms saving countless american lives and risking his own as one of the most wanted men in iraq. known as johnie walker. now in america telling his story in a book called "code name:johnie walker". johnny, we'll call you, that's the name that we love. why did you start helping the americans? >> you know, the beginning of 2003 i work with military police, and at that time it's kind of like big, huge deal, if you got chance and work with the american. first of all, i worked, like i told you, i love the american culture, american things, and i play basketball and listen to

all of the john wayne movies. so it's like my dream. >> wow. you know, johnny, the debate in america around iraq to oversimplify it i think at times similar to the debate within iraq, which is ultimately was this intervention good for the people of iraq? was it good? and i ask you, as you have a unique perspective, as an iraqi-born individual, worked with the u.s. army, how did you feel about that? obviously you did this work that you thought was right. how did you feel, though, being on the ground watching what we all know at times incredibly difficult periods for the citizens of that country? >> i think i am the most lucky guy in the world to have this chance to work with military police and after military police with s.e.a.l.s. try to save my people and innocent people and try to keep my team alive, too. huge honor to me. there jim, it's an absolutely

incredible story. how did you find johnny and decide to write about his story? >> i can't take any credit, really. i was working on "american sniper" with chris kyle and chris and i were looking at pictures from iraq and a photo came up, and by this point i knew by sight most of the people who had been on chris' team. and there was this one really tall fellow who was wearing a uniform that was a little bit different than what the other s.e.a.l.s were wearing. i said, who is that? chris goes, in his texas drawal, well, that's the only iraqi i ever trusted with a gun. and so, you know, that demanded a little explan nation. chris started telling me johnny's incredible story. johnny served with the s.e.a.l.s for going on six years, saved more lives, according to chris, more lives than chris saved. it's just incredible. we thought johnny is in american

sniper under a different name, because we thought he was still in iraq. but it turned out that the s.e.a.l.s had been able just about the time we were working on the book to get johnny back to the u.s. and chris ran into him in california and as soon as he did he got a hold of the publi publisher, you have to do this book, johnie walker's story is more incredible than mine. chris kyle and johnny himself. >> you've made so many life sacrifices, brought your family to the united states, left everything you knew, everything you loved your brother was even killed for the sacrifice that you made for the country. if you had stayed in iraq, how would life have been different for you? >> i'm going to be target everywhere, there's no safer place to me, north, south, west, or east. i just want to mention something about chris, there is nothing

compare to chris kyle story. he's my hero. bless him. i love him. >> indeed, chris is an american hero. jim, what was the hardest part of the book to write? >> i think that once i got to know johnny, it wasn't hard at all. but because of the language barrier, we -- i wouldn't say it was hard. we had to spend a lot of time together. sometimes his family got a little tired of me hanging around and taking him up. but it was always my pleasure. hopefully they'll forgive me now. >> they love you. >> johnny, jim, thank you so much for everything you've done. next, the new hbo doc examines darwinism from a creationist point of view and vice versa. you stopped by the house? uh-huh. yea. alright, whenever you get your stuff, run upstairs, get cleaned up for dinner. you leave the house in good shape? yea. yea, of course. ♪ [ sportscaster talking on tv ] last-second field go--

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this week, charles darwin would have turned 205 years old. to this day, one of the most controversial figured in history, mainly for his early and direct challenge to creationism. the idea that we came about because of some divine event. darwin's book "on the origin of species" ignited the debate in 1859 and it still raged to this day. premiering tonight, questioning darwin, examined how his personal evolution led him to his theory of evolution. also explores a so-called modern day creationism using science to try to prove darwin wrong.

fascinating subject. the director of "questioning r darw darwin" joins us now. fascinating documentary. you did such a good job. i grew up mormon, i know how intense this debate is. it's important to acknowledge many people can rationalize faith and science. but there are still a number of creationists that feel threatened by evolution, by darwinism. let's take a look at the film. >> if the theory of evolution is a fact, the bible must be false and we're all stupid, ignoramuses. my friend, it takes more faith to believe in a theory, an unproven theory than believe in the beginning god created heavens and the earth. >> you spoke to people on both sides of this debate. >> right. >> what is the best case you can make for creationism? >> that is a challenging question. i've got to take one step back from that. one of the -- whenever i talk to

anyone there, any interview i did, i always said, i want you to answer this one question, is it possible to be a christian in the fullest sense and believe in darwin's theory of evolution? and the answers were interesting and very strong. that's something that a lot of christians overlook, was the painful journey that darwin himself went through, a young man who wanted to be ordained into the church, finally, never an atheist, careful to say, but not a christian, and all of those stages i got those people to talk about it. what it would mean to them if they believed stage by stage by stage creation, first of all, was such a cruel process, how can you believe in a loving god when this thing, this thing works by suffering, by death, by elimination of the weak and all of these things really related to his journey? >> darwin's journey mapped out

in the film in an interesting way. we know about the ga lap pa go islands trip, but when he encounters brazilian slavery and encounters the death of his 10-year-old daughter annie, and then he starts to lose faith in this loving god and that allows him to fully become this evolutionist, that life story's really interesting in the journey. >> thank you. what was -- what was working in his mind was such pain, was his idea of a creative change completely from a loving god to a creator we can hardly understand, and this is what's so painful, to a lot of people, a god who has set something into motion and making prayer pointless, making miracles an invention, and this detached creator, which is what darwin had to finally confront and believe in, is a frightening

figure. and this is something that was so interesting to reflect on with creationists. >> indeed. you capture such great stuff in the interviews that you have of creationists. i'm sharing interviews that you have with creationists. you also take us through the sort of historical inflection points in terms of the pushback on evolution, the first one being what's known as the scopes' monkey trial. which was a trial over whether or not teachers could be prohibited from teaching evolution. talk to us about that piece and how that changed the way creationists were approaching. >> the trial has been rather misrepresented in that william james brian has been put up as an idiot. ideas were developing in germany of people who had taken darwin's theory on to where he was never was, which was taking it towards

the values that nazis had. that is something that darwin hated. that's what william jennings brian hated. he saw evolution leading to this fascist future. the trial ended in a peaceful moment where in a sense that those states that didn't want to teach evolution didn't have to teach evolution. sputnik was one of the issues that took us to the next step. >> talk about that. sputnik was launched in 1957. >> that really created fear in america. it was an appalling thing that our soviet enemy beat us into the race in space. there were major changes to education and it became

compulsory to each evolution against biology. we will meet science with science. we will prove scientifically that current science is misleading. >> and that's the genesis of this modern creationist movement. >> there's been nothing like that ever before in history that you come in as scientists as it were saying, we have proof that this was what happened 6,000 years ago. >> then they try to fit the facts to it. >> it is fascinating. thank you so much for being here. up next, the documentary premieres tonight at 8:00 only on hbo. up next law and order toure

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>> i think it's unfair. i think it's time to deal with it. >> to this. >> there's widespread doubt about whether this administration can be trusted to enforce our laws, and it's going to be difficult to move any immigration legislation. >> he blamed the president. the president oversees a system that deports 1200 people a day. he's following the law. there's a very easy work around. >> there's a simple solution. let's enact the law this year, but not let it actually start until 2017. >> chuck nows how to play the game. coming with a workaround wouldn't change the fact it's only being used to distract from a political party. the answer had to be inside the

gop. it had to start with boehner. boehner had a motive. he wants to remain speaker. if boehner put this on the floor, it should cost him his speakership. boehner generally wants immigration overhaul. it wasn't johnny. he didn't do the deed. i had to look elsewhere. could it be the gop's dark vein of intolerance? general powell thinks so. >> there are certain elements within the party that go out of their way to demonize people who don't look like the way they'd like them to look like. >> you can't speak of the gop's long term struggle with immigration without dealing with its issues on race, but if this legislative death was only about race, we wouldn't have gotten

this close. there had to be a political motive. ted cruz said anyone pushing immigration right now should put a harry reid bumper sticker on their car. who is powerful and in a reelection battle? then i knew who it was. what was the biggest thing happening between boehner announcing his optimism and there was no trust? two polls showing mcconnell may be losing in kentucky. neither of them want a gop civil war around immigration to get in the way of their argument about obamacare being the ruiner of america, especially when they think there is a chance for mitch to replace harry reid. immigration reform isn't really dead. the millions living in the

shadows won't stop pressing for reform. if you really think you can kill immigration reform, you're only hastening the death of your own party. that does it for "the cycle." >> i say bridgegate, you say how high? it is monday, february 10th, and this is "now." >> new jersey's biggest paper has a case of buyers' remorse. >> we blew this one. >> i am embarrassed and humiliated. >> david wildstein was never actually approved by the governor himself. >> i was blind sided. >> how many times can you play the card, i had no idea this was going on? >> i had no knowledge. no involvement. i am stunned. >> does