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>> here's the issue that all republicans agree on. >> lost trust in this president. >> we don't trust the president to enforce the law. >> he's feeding more distrust. >> the president has to demonstrate to the country and the congress can trust him. >> don't trust. >> why don't we just pack up and go home? >> this is a verified then trust approach. >> i don't trust the republicans. >> who do you trust? >> and i don't trust the democrats. >> one of the biggest obstacles we face is one of trust. well, it looks to me like the republicans found a new word to use when they were having their little shin dig out there in maryland. now they're stuck on trust. it's a word we hear a lot about on "the ed show" because you can't trust republicans.
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republicans are now trying to use this word when it comes to the president of the united states. republicans claim the president can't be trusted to enforce the law on immigration once reform is passed. here's what failed vice president presidential candidate paul ryan said last week. >> we don't trust the president to enforce the law. we don't think that we can allow this border to continue to be overrun. if we can get security first, no amnesty, then we'll be in a good position. >> we have four-fold the security on the border. what part are they talking about
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when they say they don't trust the president to enforce it? a congressman admitted they came up with a strategy at their annual republican retreat. >> we just came off of our annual retreat this weekend. we had a very robust discussion about our broken immigration system. there's a lot of distrust of this administration in implementing the law. and we just heard the president in the state of the union address if he can't work with congress, he's going to do it his own way. >> implementing the law and it's all about trust. every time the republicans talk about immigration they talk about security. security is bottom line with them. that's what the president has offered. he's deporting more people out of this country than any other president has before. here's house republican speaker john boehner talking about trust on thursday. >> we're still looking for the
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pieces to this puzzle. but listen, we do not want to default on our debt and we're not going to default on our debt. we're in discussions with members about how we can move ahead. we have time to do this. no decisions. no decisions have been made. >> yeah, because they don't trust anybody. who do you trust? president obama and house democrats or house republicans, who have obstructed everything? democrats brought obamacare to this country, which is getting better every day. republicans repealed it over 40 times in the house. democrats wanted minimum wage increase for workers in this country. republicans don't want anything to do with it. democrats want to restore unemployment benefits for the long-term unemployed in this country. republicans say no to that too. republicans shutdown the government and caused a credit downgra downgrade. they're saying no to immigration reform because they know the demographics are against them
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across the board. this has nothing to do with trusting the president of the united states. on sunday, senator chuck schumer called them out. he proved his point. he said, if republicans are worried about president obama enforcing the law, let's do it to enact by 2017. >> they don't trust the president to enforce the law. there's a simple solution. let's enact the law this year, but not let it actually start until 2017 after president obama's term was over. >> what do you think the reaction was? a spokesperson for boehner called the idea entirely impractical. it's fair to say republicans are the ones that can't be trusted on immigration reform. meanwhile, the american people are losing trust in the republicans. people are growing tired of this
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agenda across the country. these six governors have become the face of radical republican policies and the people are pretty much sick of it across the board. john caseic of ohio, he's sitting at 52%. not a bad number for his record because he tried to limit collective bargaining with public workers in the state. that failed. senate bill 5 was repealed after the outrage came from police and firefighters and teachers across the state. scott walker, this guy might be the sleeper in the bench. he has an approval rating of 51%. he has attacked workers across wisconsin. he caused massive protests. it was cold in wisconsin too then, but the hearts were warm
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and the people know exactly what this guy is all about. rick snyder's approval sits at 42%. he passed controversial right to work legislation. he did away with democracy in the city of detroit by putting a city emergency manager in charge. 24% approval by 65% disapprove. residents in his state were outraged after he decided to privatize pennsylvania's liquor stores. christie is now at 48% approval. it's down 14 points since october and going in the wrong
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direction. it's not just bridgegate. christie has made a career of attacking new jersey's teachers union. how can you have that many bad people in a workplace? then we have the biggest loser of them all. florida governor rick scott. his policies are no doubt the most radical. only 34% approval of the folks down in florida. compared to 51% who disapprove of what's going on with his administration. scott has made a career out of attacking poor people in the state. he caused outrage after passing a law to drug test welfare recipients. he refused to extend medicaid. the people of florida, they have lost trust in this guy across the board. his poll numbers show it and he's failing on all fronts. charl
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charl charlie crist called him out. >> i'm told by friends that means six people in florida die every day as a result of that. >> people are dying and it's the fault of not expanding medicaid. >> that's right. >> if it's all about trust, pick the winner here. who do you think is the real winner? the reason why republicans are talking about trust is each one of these guys can't be trusted whatsoever and they know it. this is supposed to be the big pinch out in the field for the republicans. people of florida clearly didn't trust rick scott running their state. he did the wrong thing by not expanding medicaid. let's get back to trust for a moment and let's connect it to immigration. first of all, the republicans don't want anything to do with immigration reform because it's
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just simply not their people. they don't have the demographics on their side, and they don't know what to do. so the best thing to do is just to block it. they have gerrymandered the house to the point they can hold the house for who knows how long at this point. hopefully someday in their world they can buy the senate and they'll ride it out to see if they can get somebody in the white house again. they have put the house to a position where it's going to be very hard for the democrats to win it. i'm not saying it can't be done. but if immigration reform were to start, it would make them gerrymander all over again. that's why i think priorities usa action, the story we ran on friday, they're making a huge mistake by just talking 2016 and not going after the house. now's the time to do it. before immigration reform because after immigration
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reform, if the democrats have power in the house, they'll really be able to change the country. isn't that what we want when it comes to the vulture chart? are republicans stopping immigration reform to keep control of the house? text a for yes. text b for no. you can always go to our blog. we'll bring you the results later on in the show. let's me bring in charlie crist, who is running again for the governor of the state of florida. he's author of the new book "the party is over -- how the extreme right hijacked the gop." appreciate you being on "the ed show." >> thank you. >> we're telling the truth. that is for sure. >> yes, you are, buddy. >> immigration, hot topic in florida. your reaction to the republicans
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saying they don't trust the president on immigration reform. >> it's pathetic and insulting. i don't understand it, especially from a state like florida. we're a melting pot within the melting pot of america. we're all the sons and daughters of immigrants unless you're a native american. my father's father immigrated from cyprus, a greek island. on my mother's side, i'm a son of the american revolution. her family are irish and swiss. we're all immigrants, and the notion we can't move forward on this issue and have some level of compromise is shocking. it's hard for me to believe. i'm hopeful. i'm hopeful that in the future we can move beyond that. but what we saw out of the house republicans last week, they want to say no to the president and they'll give any reason to do it. now they're centering on trust, which is so unfair.
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>> they have positioned themselves about as strong as the republican party has ever been when it comes to owning the house and the majority. wouldn't immigration reform screw that up for them? >> i certainly think it would. the idea that you can reach out and get something done in a productive way for the people of america and open this immigration debate to an honest, fair exchange, so that we can have a rational immigration policy in america. president bush tried to do it. obviously president obama is trying to do it. it would be nice if the republicans in the house would say, it's the right thing to do. when i was a child, i did childish things. we should learn from those reasonable words and move
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forward. >> it's clear that people are rejecting rick scott. >> when he ran for governor 3 3 1/2 years ago, one of the ways he won the republican primary was to promise he was going to have an arizona type law in florida if he were elected as governor. he doesn't follow through with much of anything. medicaid expansion. he said he was for it for about 30 seconds and didn't lift a finger to get it done. >> six people a day in florida die because of not expanding medicaid. can you elaborate on that a little bit? >> there's a great lady who heads up an icu in florida.
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as a result of not expanding medicaid -- understand, these are people who are sick. if they don't get health care, they get sicker or die. she read a report recently that six aredying every single day because of a bad policy decision. >> if you had an opportunity as governor of florida, would you have done what kentucky has done? would you have modelled it the same way, done the state exchange, and made it totally different fror floridians? >> absolutely. >> i don't mean to interrupt you, but i think this is really a key point here because there are democrats who have got cold feet when it comes to running with obamacare. it sounds like you have no
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problem stepping to the plate saying the affordable care act needed to be fully implemented across the board in florida. is that what i'm hearing? >> absolutely, ed. there's no question about it. it's abundantly clear to my affordable care for all americans is something we've desperately needed to do. this president barack obama has gotten it passed. it got endorsed. the u.s. supreme court said it is constitutional. it is time to get beyond this and have republicans stop bemoaning the fact that we actually have a president that was able to accomplish something that's an incredible civil right. we have a right to food and water and shelter and a right to health care in this country. this president got it done with good colleagues in the house and senate.
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it's time to move forward and stop the roadblocks. >> all right. congratulations on your book. very provocative and to the point title. thank you, governor. remember to answer tonight's question there at the bottom of your screen. we always want to know what you think. still ahead, defying health care -- hillary clinton. first, a top nfl prospect launches a bombshell before the draft and the country is talking about it.
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facebook.com/edshow. and on the radio sirius xm radio. social media nation has decided. we are reporting. here are today's top stories voted on by you. >> i believe it's jogging. it might be a soft "j." >> some spots have more than a foot of snow on the ground. >> it's the perfect texture for running. >> it's too nice not to be out here. >> portland joggers run into a case of snow. >> we see a lot of people out here running and sledding. just enjoying it. oops. >> that's got to hurt. >> you okay? >> yes. >> now all night long, i'm going to be known as that girl who fell on her butt. number two trender, not a
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smart move. >> i let my emotions get the best of me. i want to apologize to the fans and i want to apologize to my teammates and my coaching staff. >> i've never seen anything like this except what happened in the palace. >> he takes -- he gets pushed back for his sideline shove. >> it's something i'll have to learn from. i'm taking full responsibility. >> that was a great lesson learned. and today's top trender. three and out. >> a top college player has revealed he's gay. >> i'm an openly proud gay man. i'm not afraid of who i am. >> one of the top college football prospects comes out ahead of the nfl draft. >> he's expected to be taken in
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the early round of the draft in april. >> i work hard and make plays, that's all that should matter. >> the nfl has said sam is courageous for coming out. >> i'm a football player. that's all that matters. >> joining us tonight mike rogers. he's been with us for the last ten years. congratulations on your guys anniversary, mike. >> thank you. >> also a gay activist and a very brave reporter. >> thank you. >> michael sam, this is such a different situation. we're not talking about a guy who is division two who might get a look or who might be a free agent. this guy is prime time. he's one of the best football players in the country. he was the southeastern
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conference defensive player of the year. we're going to find out what nfl owners really think in our society. what if he gets snubbed on draft day? what's your call on this? >> at this time, when you look at what's happening around the country in a larger cultural arc, you have to be politically blind to not realize how far we've come. business, they've turned the corner. we're there. football is big business and he's among the best. what we'll see in just three short months, because everyone will be focusing on it, we'll see whether or not football stands up for its nondiscrimination clause that's now four years old. >> there's been a number of different comments made. a personal assistant speaking
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anonymously saying they don't think football is ready for a gay player yet and it would chemically imbalance an nfl locker room and meeting room. what do you make of that statement? that might be what nfl owners and head coaches and general managers are thinking. >> i think you might see some of that in some old-school teams and folks who aren't with the current cultural trend. this unnamed source who refuses to speak out, clearly, i don't think, gets it because michael sam's colleagues were so supportive at his college. they're just the people who are a few years away from football. while one person who is an assistant personnel coach wants to knock down michael sam and his honesty, that's what this is really about, i don't think it's reflective of what's happening in the country today. if anybody finds out who that is, they'll probably hold them accountable for that.
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>> is it too much for me to assume if a team takes him early -- you have millions of dollars that's going to be invested in this guy. he'll be a huge story. all of a sudden, they're be gay fans across the country that gets behind this team that supports this player. is there a big windfall for a team that makes a play on this? >> some of those jerseys are well over 100 bucks. you can be rest assured the day he is picked up, i'll be ordering at least two of those jerse jerseys. i'll want to support the team and millions of people in my community will step up to the plate and support the nfl and the team that makes this happen. this is big business. he's really good. he's not a is he good or is he
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bad. he'll be snapped right up. >> what happens if he gets snubbed? there was a punter for the minnesota vikings who was a gay activist and spoke up and was warned and basically he's been blackballed out of the league. this is such a huge story as well. there's the combine coming up on february 22nd that's going to be in indianapolis, indiana. they ask a lot of questions, personal questions. they may ask him are you going to hit on our players. i'm serious. how does that play? >> i think it'll play very well. my good friends at glaad have been working with every major league sport from the national
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football league to major league baseball to the soccer leagues to the nba, and i think the education that will be going -- this will accelerate that education, no doubt -- they'll receive the right messages and what's appropriate and what isn't. the same questions that'll be asked for everybody are questions that are legitimate. >> he just brought the interest of the nfl up on the off-season up quite a bit. you and i are talking about it. the country is talking about it. the combine is going to be a huge story as well. what makes this so intriguing is he's the first openly gay player. no player with his ability has had the courage to do something like this. how will the nfl respond? it all comes down the pick because everybody needs a player as good as this guy. later, the u.s. postal
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aides on clinton's failed 2008 kept a spread sheet of those who betrayed her by supporting obama. friends got a one. friends who betrayed clinton got a seven. ted kennedy, he got a seven. missouri state senator was high on the list and she knew it. she told a friend she didn't even want to be in an elevator alone with hillary clinton. john kerry topped the hit list for endorsing obama after a critical moment after clinton won the new hampshire primary.
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for hillary clinton to be successful if this is all true, she needs, as i see it, drop the grudges. unite the base. we've got too much at stake. an entry from the archives of one of hillary clinton's best friends could give her a path to do just that. the published documents include journal entries, interviews, and correspondence from the mid 1970s to 2000. one entry from 1993 describes a dinner where clinton called a single payer health care system necessary. she told the "new york times," i never seriously considered a single payer system. if she makes something progressive like single payer the focus of 2016, it could be a
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real qu powwow for democrats. i don't like lists. i like forgiveness. i like togetherness. how could the story of this book do any candidate any good for that matter? >> i think political lists are the reality of the world. my political mentor carried a list of who was in and who was out. it ruled his very successful political life. having lists like that are the reality of politics both of yesterday and today. but hillary clinton really is the biggest name in the democratic yard right now. republicans think if they can take hillary clinton down, if they can use some of the information from this treasure-trove of documents, if they can sully her reputation and keep her at bay, then maybe
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they can recapture the white house. i think they're spoiling for a fight they really don't want. >> hillary clinton is a political animal. she has been since she stepped on to the stage in arkansas. she has a group of loyalists and people who have not been in her camp, but she knows who they are. if she knows if she plays her cards right, she can very well be the next president. >> i'm anxious to see the first interview with hillary clinton about the hit list. how does she bury this? >> she can make some references to the "godfather" and indicate she was overly influenced at the time. a lot of politicians carry so-called hit lists of people who did them wrong. that's what it takes to be a serious and successful politician to a certain degree. i would bet you in the white
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house there's a similar action going on more delicately put, perhaps. i think that hillary clinton is the most formidable political animal in the democratic party right now. she's going to get on board. she's going to get folks on board. she's going to move forward. after she gets into office, it may be then the niceties begin. but until that point, there is no way that that's going to side track her from getting her mission in focus and she is a very focused politician and she has the advantage of obama and her husband and the experiences she's had as both first lady and as a candidate against obama last time. >> if she comes out strong for
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universal health care, does she mend a lot of fences? is that going to be overshadowed by the clinton dynasty brand? >> i think she has a balance to strike. i think she's going to come out stronger on certain positions. maybe single payer is it. we're all about sort of wanting a spirit primary. hillary clinton is today the de facto candidate who could win the nomination. we didn't know who barack obama was this time back in 2008. you never really know. hillary clinton is a strong politician, and she has a strong track record. they're going to look at the last 30 years of her public life and it's going to be on display. is she ready for that? i absolutely believe she is . >> i do. what hasn't she been through?
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he is quoted as saying, hillary would make a tremendous president. what does that say about her appeal outside the progressive base, that she has an appeal to get some independents? what about that? >> it says quite a bit. she has this bipartisan appeal. the blue democrats understand her appeal, but progressives believe she is the only star to which check hook their wagon. she obabecomes the best candida in town. petraeus was head of the cia under obama. now that somebody who has been dispelled or been dismissed
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because of his own faux pas in the past -- >> i think it speaks volumes that rand paul keeps bringing up the clintons of 1990 and building allegations and impeachment. that shows how desperate they are about the clintons moving forward. republicans who plan to destroy the post office. they're licking their chops again. they love those numbers. bernie sanders is here to set them straight. hey guys! sorry we're late.
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welcome back to "the ed show." this is a story for the folks who take a shower after work. believe me, these folks do. they're hardworking americans. the united states postal service continues to suffer financial losses threatening its long-term viability. just what the republicans want. the postal service ended 2013 with a $354 million loss. it was the 19th quarter of losses out of the last 21. now, the financial pinch the united states postal service is under is a result of the postal accountability enhancement act, passed by congress in the lame duck session in 2006, which forces the postal service to prepare retiree health care for
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75 years into the future in a ten-year window. in other words, about $6 billion a year on their bottom line that they have to meet for future operations. who the hell runs their businesses like that? republicans have been gunning to nail the post office for a long time. they want it to be forced into bankruptcy so they can privatize everything they can get their hands on. on thursday, the senate homeland security and government affairs committee approved a bipartisan bill which would grant the postal service more operating flexibility and provide relief for some of its workforce-related obligations, meaning the prepay what i was just talk about. the bill will eventually head to the senate for debate. tom carper of delaware released a statement reacting to the financial loss in supporting the legislation. he said it's time for the congress and the administration to work together to save the postal service for the long haul. hear, hear. i agree. postal reform legislation won't do any good.
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the agency is still predicting that it will default on another employee benefits payment due at the end of september. senator bernie sanders of vermont, he has done everything he can to help enhance and save the postal service. senator, good to have you with us tonight. i go home to detroit lakes, minnesota, a little resort town in upstate minnesota, 6,000 people. saturday morning, the post office is packed. people love their post office. america loves their mail. why in the world was this bill ever passed, and why haven't the democrats tried to reverse this whole thing? i know you have, but collectively it should be right on the front burner. >> actually, it's an issue that is going to be discussed at caucus tomorrow. and i'm going to do everything i can to make sure that we have legislation which saves tens and tens of thousands of jobs that would otherwise be lost. here is the most important point for the viewers to understand. in the first quarter of this fiscal year in terms of
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operating profits, operating profits, the u.s. postal service made, earned $765 million. in other words, they enjoyed a very healthy profit margin. the problem is they are operating under an unprecedented burden that no other agency of government, no private company has to do. and that is prefunding 75 years of retiree health benefits in a ten-year period at about $5 billion a year. that is 100% of the reason right now as to why the postal service is, quote/unquote, losing money. get rid of that onerous burden, the postal service will be in reasonably good shape. >> how cannot every democrat in caucuses recognize this? this should be, because of lack of a better term, a slam-dunk to reduce this.
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>> the legislation has 29 cosponsors right now. i suspect we'll get more. these are people who understand we have to get rid of this onerous and unfair burden. we have to keep the postal service open on saturdays that in the midst of a terrible recession, terrible economic downturn, you don't cut tens of thousands of good paying jobs. our job is to grow middle class jobs, not to cut them. so i think we're going to have a lot of support in the democratic caucus. i hope we can pick up some republican support. but this is a fight i intend to wage in a very strong way. >> i want the president checking in on this. more veterans are employed by the postal service than any other employer in the country. it would be horrible for small business if this were to go away, even on just saturdays. go ahead. >> you're right, ed. and as chairman of the veterans committee, i appreciate that, and you're absolutely right. but here is essentially what the debate is about. our republican colleagues that.
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>> want to cut social security, they want to cut medicare, they want to cut every government program, including the postal service. some of us believe very strongly that if you give the postal service some flexibility, in terms of e-mail, in terms of banking, in terms of being able to wrap packages, give them some flexibility, they will do very, very well. they're doing well today. they will do better. >> do not want to see tens of thousand of jobs lost through this onerous process. >> this is all under the umbrella of the republican mantra to privatize everything they can get their hands on. that's it. >> i think that is true. >> and i think the republicans ought to come out and make a statement that they will never touch this money that has been placed in escrow for people's health care and future generations. they won't do that, because i think they're going to try to get their mitts on that money down the road some time. >> look, as you have said, the postal service is an enormously popular institution. people like it, respect it. they know that if you live at the end of a dirt road in
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vermont, you're going to get your mail. it's a good thing. >> senator, great to have you with us tonight. i appreciate you stick up for the working folks in the postal schts it's vital for the country. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpston on the starts right now. good evening, rev. >> good evening, ed. thanks to you for tuning in. developing news tonight. getting tough, late today the new jersey committee investigating bridgegate turned up the heat. they voted to enforce subpoenas for documents issued to go key figures, bridget kelly and bill stepien, threatening to hold them in contempt if they don't comply. bridget kelly is the former deputy chief of staff who sent that infamous, "time for some traffic problems in ft. lee." bill stepien is the former campaign manager who called the mayor of ft. lee an idiot. they were part of the governor's
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