ally bank. your money needs an ally. this is the creamy chicken corn chowder. i mean, look at it. so indulgent. did i tell you i am on the... [ both ] chicken pot pie diet! me too! [ male announcer ] so indulgent, you'll never believe they're light. 100-calorie progresso light soups. we want america to win the games. >> we have lots of experience. but we also have some young guys that have to step up their games to beat the russians. >> today, a rematch of the miracle on ice of sorts. team usa hockey beats team russia. and this was a thriller that went to eight rounds of shots. yes, the extra penalty shots. we're going to be live in sochi. we'll also talk live with the captain of the 1980 miracle on ice team. hello to you all. i'm t.j. holmes. craig melvin is off today. you are watching msnbc.

also happening right now, verdict watch continues. jurors are deciding the fate of michael david dunn, the florida man on trial for the shooting death of an unarmed black teenager, jordan davis. we're live outside the courthouse. also ahead -- >> the saying here is virginia is for lovers. truly, we are experiencing that today in a way that we never have before. >> marriage for all? in a first for the south. a federal judge strikes down virginia's gay marriage ban. will this turn the tide in the south? also this -- >> i want to let everyone know that i'm the youngest entrepreneur and i like to do what i like to do. >> this so-called super businessgirl helping turn around detroit. she's 10 years old. she's the boss and she's behind today's big idea. let's start with that marquee day for hockey as team usa took on russia.

nbc's kevin tibbles live at the olympic village in sochi with the details. kevin, hello to you. a rematch. we always call these rematches. not exactly the same drama and build-up to what was happening back in 1980. but always a big deal with these two get together. >> reporter: i think the most important factor out of all thats thais is that it was your namesake that won it for the usa. the people who live in the tiny town of minnesota were the people who were big fans of t.j. oshie. but after today, even president obama is a fan of t.j. oshie even tweeting about him after his real nail-biter of a game that went down to overtime. and then went into the shootout. and t.j. oshie came home as the hero of the day.

when you talk about the miracle on ice, that was a fantastic time. you've just promo'd your next guest and we have tremendous respect for him and what that team did. this is an entirely different kettle of fish than back in those days. all these guys are pros, either playing in the nhl or the khl. these guys aren't a bunch of college kids that went out there and got it done. but i have to tell you, it was a fantastic game. the crowd was unbelievable. probably 90%/10% russian versus american. they were loud, they were gregarious but they were also very polite. and you know the outcome couldn't have been better for folks watching at home in the us of a. >> one more thing in here, this is your spoiler alert, if you don't want to know, turn the volume down. there was good news for hockey but other high-profile athletes didn't turn out so well. explain it to us quickly.

>> reporter: julia man cue sew finished eighth in her race. they talked about the weather being very warm. a lot of the girls, the women fell during the downhill today. but at the end of the day, julia mancuso remains the most highly decorated female athlete in history. and shani davis remains this nation's greatest speed skater. his unlucky number, like julia was the number eight, which is where he finished. but another supreme athlete, somebody that all of us should be proud of. >> kevin tibbles for us, thank you so much, live from sochi. >> reporter: thanks, t.j. >> back to 1980, that classic cold car scenario. except it was played out on the ice at the winter olympics in lake placid, new york. the underdog u.s. hockey team was the unlikely victor over a powerhouse soviet team.

the victory became known as the miracle on ice. and michael aruzioni joins me now. you guys were amateurs and college players up against these big-time guys from the soviet union. but there's something seemingly special when we watch usa versus russia hockey in the olympics like we saw today. >> no question. even though it is different, it's drastically different. but anytime somebody puts on that usa jersey and playing against the soviets or the russians now, it is special. anytime you represent your country it's special. but to be able to play them again and in this type of environment in sochi, in russia, i think made the build-up that much more exciting. >> as we know, all these guys on the u.s. team are professionals. they play against and with a lot of the guys, professionals on the russian team. but is it still in the back of

the minds of the u.s. players, we're playing russia, we have to get these guys? >> they were teammates going against each other as if they were opponents from another team. the one thing that impresses about me when pros play in the olympic games, they don't care if it's a teammate they're going to have to play with in another two weeks. they realize the competition, they realize they're the opponents or the enemy. and they go out and play hard. that was very evident today. >> for you all back in 1980, that was a time when president carter was actually considering and ended up getting this boycott for the summer games being held in moscow. but all the politics taking place outside the arena, did it make its way down to the arena for you guys at the time or were you just out there being hockey players? >> we were out there being hockey players. i'd love to tell you we knew what was going on. but we had no clue. we weren't allowed to talk to the media. we were in a little bubble in lake placid playing hockey. our victory was great for a

nation but it didn't solve all the world's problems. it just made a country very proud and made a country realize how special the united states is and how great things can happen if you work hard. i think our team depicted what america was all about. >> what do you think about this team this time around? this was so much excitement about this -- i don't know how another game is going to match this excitement. but, again, this wasn't a medal round. >> no. this is just the beginning. as i tweeted out today, strap your boots on. it's going to get more exciting. today was an awesome game. t.j. oshie's performance was spectacular. but you can't forget about jonathan quick. i think it was outstanding when t.j. talked in the interview with dan patrick about how important the goaltender was. you saw when he scored the last goal, he pointed back to his goaltender because you need your goalie to make those saves in order for him to keep having chances to score. it was exciting.

it was outstanding. and i'm sure the u.s. players, they're happy about the victory. but there are bigger games still to play. and tomorrow being one of them. you can't let what happened today slide and have something bad happen tomorrow. you want to finish in the top of your bracket is you have an easier draw or an easier seed. but don't be surprised if they meet again or sweden and canada, two other countries that are going to be battles. this is the beginning for some really exciting ice hockey. >> last thing, a lot of people maybe outside of the locker rooms like to bring athletes into what's happening outside the arenas, bring into what is happening between -- relations between two countries and also what we're seeing in russia now with some of the anti-gay laws. athletes are kind of brought into that. you said in your minds, you were just athletes out there playing. but do you think it's right that -- is it appropriate, do you like to see it happen or no, to have athletes thrown into some of the political back and forth? >> no, i don't. i don't agree with that. i think the athletes are there to perform.

they're there to represent their country. what your opinions are on political stuff is something that should stay away from the arena. i think most of the athletes do a very good job at doing that. we're not there -- i think the athletes are not there to fight political battles or cultural wars. they're there to compete. they're there to represent their country the best way they can, whether it's a gold medal or an eighth place or tenth place finish. i've said many times, when you put the jersey on that says united states, you represent us as a country, as an athlete. what you do after that and what your comments might be after the olympic games, that's probably the appropriate time and place to do it. but you're there to play, you're there to compete and represent your country as an athlete and i think we should keep it that way. >> the captain of the 1980 u.s. olympic hockey team, the moment that was called the greatest, one of the -- or the top moment in sports in the 20th century. it's really good to talk to you. i'd love to buy you a beer some time. good to see you.

>> thank you very much. your namesake did a good job today. >> thanks so much. update now on the medal counts at the winter games. take a look. we'll put it up here for you. you see russia tops with the most medals. netherlands after that. the usa still there, tied with the netherlands at 14. still a little ways to go. we'll see where it ends up. back to olympic coverage throughout the day here on msnbc. topping the saturday headlines, more snow, a blizzard warning has been issued for parts of new england until sunday morning. over 5 more inches of snow expected to fall in the northeast with smaller accumulations further south into washington, d.c. also, president obama out west this weekend. friday he visited california's heartland amid one of the driest years in the state's history. the president proposed more than $6160 million in aid to families and farmers affected by the drought. the president also met with the king of jordan who promised to extend a $1 billion loan to the

kingdom to help with the influx of more than 600,000 syrian refugees who fled into his country. more on that coming up. and a presidential pep talk -- >> the single most important thing we have to do, not just as a party but as a country, is make sure that there's opportunity for every single person. >> president obama pumps up house democrats worried about their election day chances. but does their agenda match the needs of everyday americans? we'll ask one congress coming up. also, 50 years of heroism, the world's first action figure celebrates a big birthday. the inspiration behind the toy that has delighted generations. stay with us. [announcer] word is getting out. purina dog chow light & healthy is a deliciously tender and crunchy kibble blend. with 20% fewer calories than purina dog chow. isn't it time you discovered the lighter side of dog chow.

purina dog chow light & healthy. then you'll know how uncomfortable it can be. [ crickets chirping ] but did you know that the lack of saliva can also lead to tooth decay and bad breath? [ exhales deeply ] [ male announcer ] well there is biotene. specially formulated with moisturizers and lubricants, biotene can provide soothing relief and it helps keep your mouth healthy, too. [ applause ] biotene -- for people who suffer from dry mouth. ♪ ♪ [ female announcer ] with five perfectly sweetened whole grains... you can't help but see the good. well, did you know that just one sheet of bounce outdoor fresh gives you more freshness than two sheets of the leading national store brand? who knew? so, how do you get your bounce? with more freshness in a single sheet.

so, how do you get your bounce? a steel cage: death match of midsize sedans. the volkswagen passat against all comers. turbocharged engines against...engines. best in class rear legroom against other-class legroom. but then we realized. consumers already did that. twice. huh. maybe that's why nobody else showed up. how does one get out of a death cage? vo: right now, get 0.9% apr on all passat models plus a total of $1000 in bonuses. i can't believe your mom has a mom cave! today i have new campbell's chunky spicy chicken quesadilla soup. she gives me chunky before every game. i'm very souperstitious. haha, that's a good one! haha! [ male announcer ] campbell's chunky soup. it fills you up right.

house democrats are plotting their strategy for this year's elections. they got a pep talk from both vice president biden and president obama at the retreat this week in maryland. but it wasn't just about firing up the rank and file. president obama made clear the priorities democrats should be fighting for on capitol hill. >> there are some big things that we have to do that i cannot do through executive action, where we have to get congress and where the american people are on our side, a federal minimum wage law is one of them. another, though, is making sure that we've got a smart immigration policy in this country that grows our economy, gets people out of the shadows -- [ applause ] makes sure that our businesses are thriving. that's got to be a top priority. >> joining me now, california democratic congressman adam schiff. thank you for being here. we talked about two priorities. we're hearing about immigration reform and higher minimum wage.

you tell me the prospects of getting either one of those done. >> i think it's going to be a challenge either way as we saw a couple of weeks ago, the republicans announced five principles on immigration reform. and then a week later, they announced a principle that trumped all of their five, which is, don't do anything to divide the gop base. so they indicated they're not likely to bring it up this year which means we'll have to try to force their hand. this is enormously important for the country. it enjoyed widespread support in the country. it would be good for our economy and fair to millions of people. >> how do you force their hand? how do you do that? >> there are a number of ways it can be done. certainly turning up the heat, turning up the pressure, focusing on those republicans that represent increasingly minority districts who are in marginal seats. maybe a discharge petition where you can force something to come up on the floor if you can get enough people to sign a petition is a way of leveraging these marginal members. but the only thing that's going to work is turning up the

political pressure sufficient that the republicans say, okay, we're going to have to do this to survive as a party. we're not there yet, but that's certainly going to be a big focus for us. >> you mentioned the discharge petition. are you thinking about going that route? again, that's a legislative term there. essentially a maneuver to force something onto the floor. but is this something you're thinking about in terms of both the minimum wage and immigration? >> i think there's an expectation that we'll start with a discharge petition on the minimum wage. for those that are around the country saying they support it, this is a way of actually putting their name on the line, literally quite on the line, to force a vote on this issue. it will help if the senate can pass something that will add to the pressure in the house. and if some of the marginal republican members see their republican senators support it, that will also help get them on board. i would expect to see a discharge petition on the wage issue first and then depending on how that bears fruit, we may see one of the immigration issue as well. >> sir, how tricky does this get

for you all in correct me if i'm wrong in trying to negotiate with your republican colleagues if the president keeps upsetting a lot of republicans by taking executive action or at least threatening to take executive action? it was a theme really in a lot of ways of his state of the union speech saying, i will act where i can on my own. how tricky does it make your job up on capitol hill? >> i think the president really for the entire administration has tried to reach out to the gop. but that largely has not been reciprocated. at a certain point, you have to say, i'm going to continue to try to work with you. but if you won't work with me, i'll have no choice but to do what i can within my own executive power. frankly, i think when the speaker came out the other day and said that they would probably not take up immigration because the gop members didn't trust the president, that was quite a charade. the real reason is they don't want to divide their conference. it has nothing to do with trusting or not trusting the president. you may have seen the powerful

column in favor of comprehensive reform saying it was a copout on the part of the gop. >> some good news on health care reform, the affordable care act. the administration put out that 3 million americans signed up. how are you going to go about running on -- what is the pitch to run on for you and fellow democrats on health care reform when you continue to get pounded by conservatives over this law? >> the pitch is actually quite straightforward one to make. the affordable care act is extending coverage to millions of people. it's lowering prescription drug costs for seniors, allowing parents to keep their kids on their policies. it's allowing people with pre-existing conditions to get health care coverage. mostly we have to focus on telling the success stories of those people that were denied conch in the past that are getting coverage now. so i think the case is there to be made. we also want to point out the fact that, okay, it's not perfect. we can improve this, we can strengthen this. but we can't repeal it and letting it go back to letting

insurance dictate whether or not we get care. that message, let's strengthen it, improve it. but look at the good it's already delivering. i think that's a winning message for us. >> representative schiff, i hope to have you back. i had some more stuff. i wanted to get to nsa reform. i asked a few too many questions. got caught up in the other politics. we hope to have you back. >> i look forward to it. >> all right. 20 past the hour now. let me show you some video of u.s. secretary of education. arne duncan impersonated an nba player at the celebrity all-star game. he put on a show. some call it the best performance in celebrity came history. he pulls off this no-look pass to skyler diggins. duncan was an all-american on the harvard basketball team. after that, this was another moment people were talking about last night. nba rising stars game.

a lot of highlights. after the game, the mvp, you see there, yeah, this happens every now and again. andre drummond, it broke. he still raised it high. congratulations, sir. (laughs) it's more than just a meal, it's meow mix mealtime. with wholesome ingredients and irresistible taste, no wonder it's the only one cats ask for by name. to help me become an olympian, she was pretty much okay with me turning her home into an ice rink. ♪ she'd just reach for the bounty select-a-size. it's the smaller, powerful sheet that acts like a big sheet. look, one select-a-size sheet of bounty is 50% more absorbent

than a full size sheet of the leading ordinary brand. use less, with the small but powerful picker-upper, bounty select-a-size. when my son was born, i remember, you know, picking him up and holding him against me. it wasn't just about me anymore. i had to quit. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. it reduces the urge to smoke. chantix didn't have nicotine in it, and that was important to me. [ male announcer ] some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood,

hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. if you notice any of these, stop chantix and call your doctor right away. tell your doctor about any history of mental health problems, which could get worse while taking chantix. don't take chantix if you've had a serious allergic or skin reaction to it. if you develop these, stop chantix and see your doctor right away, as some could be life threatening. tell your doctor if you have a history of heart or blood vessel problems, or if you develop new or worse symptoms. get medical help right away if you have symptoms of a heart attack or stroke. use caution when driving or operating machinery. common side effects include nausea, trouble sleeping and unusual dreams. i had to quit smoking to keep up with this guy. [ male announcer ] ask your doctor if chantix is right for you. ♪ yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! ♪ we are one, under the sun ♪ under the sun... [ female announcer ] fiber and protein. together as one. introducing new fiber one protein cereal.

a bit of an early valentine's day present for same-sex couples in virginia. they got it from a federal judge who on thursday ruled the state's ban on same-sex marriage was unconstitutional. >> we want our relationship to be recognized just like everyone else's. we want to be married. >> i have never been more grateful as a mother than i am today. knowing that our family will be recognized as one that is just as real and legitimate and ordinary as every other family in virginia. >> don't exactly expect a rush down the aisle just yet. marriages are on told pending appeal. thanks for being here.

i need to let folks know that my sister-in-law actually worked for the plaintiffs on this case. let me bring up here something in the judge's ruling. it says, gay and lesbian individuals share the same capacity as heterosexual individuals to form, preserve, celebrate loving, intimate and lasting relationships. such relationships are creating through the exercise of sacred personal choices, choices made by every other citizen that must be free from unwarranted government interference. in some ways, that sounds like a fairy strong statement for same-sex marriage. but at the end there, sounds like it's a principle that we hear from conservatives. what do you make of that statement and the ruling itself? >> well, in fact, the arguments in favor of ending marriage discrimination are both progressive and conservative. that's why we're seeing tremendous growing bipartisan momentum in favor of the freedom to marry. and we're seeing a majority across the country certainly of democrats, certainly of disputes and increasingly support amongst

republicans. this is not a conservative versus liberal, democratic versus republican thing. it's about families, it's about fairness, it's about freedom and about respecting the commitment in life that people like the plaintiffs have made. >> what's the relevance of this being a southern state? >> it's very important because what we are doing here, the whole strategy for the freedom to marry has been to convey to decision makers, be they elected officials, voters, judges or the justices of the supreme court, that america is ready for the freedom to marry. it's time to end this discrimination. and with now more than 46 cases bubbling across the country, virginia just being one of them, cases are making their way toward the supreme court, which ultimately will bring our country to national resolution. >> you said making their way, the judges had -- the supreme court had a chance, they could have made the ruling but they didn't. they decided on doma instead, which is a big ruling as well. what will it take -- we were talking about it before we came on air here. but it seems you're trying to

force the supreme court's hand in some way. >> i wouldn't say force their hand. the time is overdue. it's time to end this discrimination. what we are trying to do is create the climate that says to the justices -- >> get their attention. >> this is the time. it's time to get america on the right side of history. couples like these plaintiffs shouldn't have to wait another day, another year. we shouldn't have to battle couple by couple, court by court, case by case to have the constitution's command of equality that they did recognize in the federal case last year respected across the country. >> evan wilson, freedom to marry, like you said, that momentum certainly been going a certain way. thank you so much. see you again. a quick look at the other stories making news right now. workers at the volkswagen manufacturing plant in tennessee voted not to joint the united auto workers on friday. it would have been the first successful organization of workers at a foreign automaker in the south. more on the labor fight coming up at the top of the hour. also, a 4.1 magnitude

earthquake hit south carolina overnight. there were no reports of damages or injuries. it's the second largest earthquake to ever hit the state. the los angeles area is preparing for a major freeway shutdown. they are calling it jamzilla. lane closures began on friday night on the 405 freeway and are not expected to reopen until after the presidents day weekend. right now, we are in day four of deliberations in the so-called loud music trial, the shooting death of jordan davis. we are live outside the courthouse. as jurors decide the fate of defendant michael dunn. also, marking a milestone. the first action figure and a real american hero. the story behind g.i. joe. that is not the right picture, folks. stay with us here on msnbc.

[ female announcer ] it figures.

on your busiest day, you see the gray. try root touch up by nice 'n easy. just brush our permanent color matching creme right where you need it. then rinse. in 10 minutes, zap those grays and get on with your day. nice 'n easy root touch up. in 10 minutes, zap those grays and get on with your day. i asked my husband to pay our bill, and he forgot. you have the it card and it's your first time missing a payment, so there's no late fee. really? yep! so is your husband off the hook? no. he went out for milk last week and came back with a puppy. hold it. hold it. hold it. at discover, we treat you like you'd treat you. get the it card with late payment forgiveness. anybody have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating? one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three types of good bacteria. i should probably take this. live the regular life. phillips'.

the jury in the murder trial of michael dunn now in its fourth day of deliberations in a florida courthouse. dunn is charged with murder and the shooting death of 17-year-old jordan davis in what started as a dispute over loud music. but the case has racially charged overtones and to many is reminiscent of the shooting death of trayvon martin nearly two years ago. nbc's kerry sanders is outside the courthouse in jacksonville, florida. are they still at it? >> reporter: they are still at it. they've been going at it since this morning. they're into the fourth day of trying to determine if they can reach consensus. so they're reaching what may be the tipping point where they may have a deadlock on the charges. so it appears based on the questions that they asked this morning to the judge that really what they're focused on is the overriding charge here. that is the charge of first-degree or second-degree murder. the questions that the jury

asked the judge are -- is the defense of self-defense separate for each person in each count because in addition to that first-degree murder charge, there are three attempted murder charges because when he fired at the car, there were three other people in the car. so those would be the three other attempted murder. so the judge told them, yes, these are all separate charges. so they're not all linked together. the next question that they asked, are we determining if deadly force is justified for each person in each count? again, the answer was yes. so this is a little bit of putting the tea leaves together to try to read this. but it may be that they have looked at the charges of attempted murder and come up with individual agreement that, okay, we are not going to say that there is an attempted murder. but we're hung up on the number one charge, which is the charge of first-degree or second-degree murder. the last question was, if we

determine deadly force is justified against one person, is it justified against the others? and again the judge told them, no, not necessarily. so if they're hung up on that first question -- and that is the question of whether this is first degree or second degree or whether it was manslaughter or justifiable homicide -- it may be with a 12-member jury that they just can't come to a consensus on that. what the jury probably doesn't know is if they come back to the judge today and they say, look, we're deadlocked, we cannot come to agreement and they believe that they're going to go home, that won't happen. the judge will have to give them a charge which is called the allen charge in florida. he will have to tell them, i'm going to put you back in there and give it sort of one last college try to work this out. what that usually means, though, is after an exhausting day that they'll go once again back to their hotels where they're sequestered and come back tomorrow and once again see if they can reach a consensus on

this. >> we're around 26, 27 hours of deliberation over the past four days. kerry sanders in jacksonville, thank you so much. lisa bloom, legal analyst for nbc news. she's the author of "suspicion nation, the inside story of the trayvon martin injustice." and a legal and policy director of the dream defenders and christopher smith is a florida democratic state senator. let me start with you, lisa. what do you make of given the questions they've asked and now the time we're up to, where do you think they are in that room? >> they're clearly struggling with self-defense as to the shooting of jordan davis which is very hard for me to understand because no gun was ever found pand yet he claims that jordan davis pointed a gun at him. the other charges are much easier. the attempted murder charges as to the other three young men in the car -- this jury has heard the video where there was a pause before the final three shots are fired at the back of the car.

they've seen the photograph of the car with the bullet holes in the back of the car. so clearly shooting a car that is driving away from you is a crime. that's the crime of attempted murder that's been charged. perhaps they can reach a consensus on the attempted murder charges, if so this man is probably facing the rest of his life in prison. but the big issue, self-defense or murder of jordan davis, clearly they are struggling with that. >> you all staged a sit-in trying to get the legislature down there in florida to get rid of the "stand your ground" law. that hasn't made any progress necessarily just yet. but where do you think you have been successful in this whole effort? >> i think we've been very successful at storytelling, sharing the stories of these lives that have been lost and young people that have mattered the most to us. having the system turn their back on them is the story we've been sharing. what we've done over the last year and a half, two years is

educate florida that people of color, especially young black males, do not feel safe in the state of florida because of characteristics that have been told to us that they're synonymous with black culture, such as hoodies and loud music or thug music have been the calls that have led to the deaths of these young men. we've been able to tell these stories, stories such as mcbride and farrell that have echoed these sentiments that people of color are not feeling safe. >> mr. smith, thinkprogress.org reported that at least 26 kids and teenagers have died in florida in "stand your ground" cases. i know you want to try to repeal the "stand your ground" law. what are the chances? >> repeal, the chances are slim. we are working in the senate on some reforms to "stand your ground," putting in some legislative intent to give florida citizens a guide path and judges of what's acceptable behavior, what is a "stand your

ground" case? we're looking at amending the immunity parts of "stand your ground" as well as clearly defining what's an aggressor because as you clearly see with this jury taking so long in a case that most of america thinks should be a slam dunk that there are some problems with this law. so we're working hard if not to repeal -- which i think we clearly should -- but at least amend it to give some direction to floridians, to judges and to future juries. >> lisa, is it fair to say -- i've watched every moment of this trial -- but no gun was ever found and no one other than mr. dunn ever alleges that there possibly was a weapon. but if the jury is going through what they're going through, are they finding it reasonable that he saw something? >> probably. that's probably what they're grappling with. the defense made much of the fact that the police did not search the area for several days. they didn't search dumpsters. they didn't search bushes. and the defense argues that it's possible that a gun could have

been thrown somewhere and disposed of and the police wouldn't have found it. but the relevant questions are, if jordan davis stuck the gun out the window and was threatening michael dunn, why didn't he shoot back when michael dunn was shooting at him? if jordan davis got hit, why didn't one of his friends grab the gun and shoot back at the guy shooting him. that didn't make any sense if there was a gun. and the biggest issue is that michael dunn's fiancee says he never told her that he had a gun. all that night as they're talking about it, as she's hysterical and crying and screaming, he never said that they had a gun. he didn't tell her that until 12 days later. >> ahmad and chris, i want to get you both to comment on this last part. we talk about "stand your ground" laws and repealing them and they're so much a part of the media cycle. but a "stand your ground" law whether it was there or not would not have saved trayvon martin or jordan davis. it might have prevented the people who killed them from

using it as a defense. but isn't the real issue, ahmad -- this is something we have to work at. how do you change mentalities? how do you change thinking that you see a young black man and he is not in the neighborhood he should be in or he is a threat? isn't that the real issue that must be addressed? ahmad, you first. >> absolutely. thank you. that is a grave issue. i think our country has been grappling with that issue since people of color and minorities have began living in this country. i think that is the most disturbing fact. that people of color are continuously looked at as violent threats. we are upstanding citizens who seek to make this country better. so that is an issue. however, "stand your ground" doesn't increase the likelihood of vigilanteism. we saw a person shot and killed in a movie theater for having popcorn thrown at him.

. >> mr. smith? >> i second what ahmad just finished with. "stand your ground" type laws encourage people to be more aggressive. we've always been taught, if you can walk away safely, go ahead and walk away. but "stand your ground" is encouraging people to get into more violence. and that's why we at least have to send a signal as legislators to the citizens of florida that that is not encouraged behavior, to save future trayvons and the future kids in florida. >> lisa, ahmad, state senator smith, thank you all for being here. important case. we're on verdict watch as we speak. thanks to you all. banks can now do business with legal marijuana dealers. the treasury and justice departments issued new rules friday to ease regulations on banking transactions for dealers. government officials say the changes should reduce the risks associated with conducting all-cash marijuana businesses. till now, banks had been prohibited from working with the dealers. e diet?

this is the creamy chicken corn chowder. i mean, look at it. so indulgent. did i tell you i am on the... [ both ] chicken pot pie diet! me too! [ male announcer ] so indulgent, you'll never believe they're light. 100-calorie progresso light soups. you'll never believe they're light. if yand you're talking toevere rheuyour rheumatologistike me, about trying or adding a biologic. this is humira, adalimumab. this is humira working to help relieve my pain. this is humira helping me through the twists and turns. this is humira helping to protect my joints from further damage. doctors have been prescribing humira for over ten years. humira works by targeting and helping to block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to ra symptoms. for many adults, humira is proven to help relieve pain and stop further joint damage. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal events, such as infections, lymphoma, or other types of cancer, have happened. blood, liver and nervous system problems,

serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure have occurred. before starting humira , your doctor should test you for tb. ask your doctor if you live in or have been to a region where certain fungal infections are common. tell your doctor if you have had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have symptoms such as fever, fatigue, cough, or sores. you should not start humira if you have any kind of infection. ask your doctor if humira can work for you. this is humira at work. she'd just grab the bounty select-a-size. one select-a-size sheet of bounty is 50% more absorbent than a full size sheet of the leading ordinary brand. use less, with bounty select-a-size. than a full size sheet of the leading ordinary brand. a steel cage: death match of midsize sedans. the volkswagen passat against all comers. turbocharged engines against...engines. best in class rear legroom against other-class legroom. but then we realized. consumers already did that.

twice. huh. maybe that's why nobody else showed up. how does one get out of a death cage? vo: right now, get 0.9% apr on all passat models plus a total of $1000 in bonuses. [ female announcer ] we eased your back pain, you turned up the fun. tylenol® provides strong pain relief while being gentle on your stomach. but for everything we do, we know you do so much more. tylenol®. if you have a business idea, we have a personalized legal solution that's right for you. with easy step-by-step guidance, we're here to help you turn your dream into a reality. start your business today with legalzoom. i've got a big date, but my sinuses are acting up. it's time for advil cold and sinus. [ male announcer ] truth is that won't relieve all your symptoms. new alka seltzer plus-d relieves more symptoms than any other behind the counter liquid gel. oh what a relief it is.

she is detroit's youngest entrepreneur and she's doing her part to revitalize the motor city. it's today's big idea. call 10-year-old asia newsom a businesswoman. her business is called super businessgirl, selling candles at just 5 years old. check out her sales pitch. >> i'm asking for $8 in investments. you're investing in my and into my future and my business. >> joining me now, the owner of super businessgirl, asia newsom, good to see you. nice to see that big smile. you've been a businesswoman for five years. how do you start your own business at 5 years old? >> well, my dad was a salesman. he used to go out selling these candles and i used to tag along because there was no one to watch me. my dad used to say this complicated presentation. u be i caught on.

one day i interrupted his presentation, and as a matter of fact, i was making more money than him. >> again, explain the business. what exactly is it and what kind of product? candles is how you started. what kind of business are we talking about here? >> well, super businessgirl is a business that teaches at-risk youth how to become self-sufficient and become entrepreneurs, expand their vocabula vocabulary, teach them history, everything they need to be a successful businesswoman or businessman. >> where do you get this, asia? you're 10 years old. we're all watching going, wow, she's not just some kid -- cute kid outside selling some lemonade at a stand. you have a business sense. where does this come from? your parents? have you always been like this? what is this? >> i've always been like this. it's just me. it's my personality. >> well, all right. this is a big deal.

i was on the grio 100 list at one time. but they've kicked me off and you've made it onto the list of most important voices in this country. what is it like to be on a list like the naacp president and lebron james and president obama, they've been on those lists? >> that's fantastic. it's just an awesome opportunity and awesome experience. >> you're 10 and you're here. where are you going to be at 15 and 20? what are you going to be doing when you're 15 or 20 if you've done all this at the age of 10? >> well, my dream is actually to be an entertainer. but it's just going to be more entrepreneurs just like me they're going to be sitting here in this seat and i'm going to be running super businessgirl and teaching those children how to become entrepreneurs and fulfilling my awesome dreams. >> you're 10 years old and you have a manager.

>> yes. >> is that something you encourage kids, you need to have a manager to be successful in business? >> no, you don't need to have a manager to be successful in business. >> but it helps, i take it? asia newson, a pleasure to talk to you. the news is not always pleasant r. good to see your smile and have this type of story to bring to folks. good luck. and we'll see you down the road, all right? >> yes, thank you. bye! >> bye-bye. how can we top that? can i talk to her the rest of the afternoon? do you have a big idea making the difference? tell us about it by e-mailing it to us. you can also tweet it to us. now time for a flashback for you. let's get back to this date in 1903 when america's love affair with the teddy bear officially began.

morris mitcham advertised bears in his store window as teddy bears after previously petitioning president theodore roosevelt to use his nickname. he got his inspiration from a political cartoon about roosevelt's expedition to mississippi where as the story goes he encountered an injured black bear who had been tied to a tree. the teddy bears were an immediate success. women began carrying them everywhere. kids were photographed with them. roosevelt even used a teddy as a mascot in his bid for reelection. today, more than a billion bears sold annually with popular ones including the care bears, paddington and winnie pooh. coming up, celebrating the other toy that changed the game. fedex one rate. really makes my life easier. maybe a promotion is in order.

good news. i got a new title. and a raise? management couldn't make that happen. [ male announcer ] introducing fedex one rate. simple, flat rate shipping with the reliability of fedex. on your busiest day, you see the gray. try root touch up by nice 'n easy. just brush our permanent color matching creme right where you need it. then rinse. in 10 minutes, zap those grays and get on with your day. nice 'n easy root touch up.

♪ yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! ♪ we are one, under the sun ♪ under the sun... [ female announcer ] fiber and protein. together as one. introducing new fiber one protein cereal.

♪

hard to believe it's been 50 years since the introduction of g.i. joe, the action figure that started it all, represented all four branches of the u.s. armed forces. let's bring in now chris bench, vice president of collections for the strong toy museum which houses the national toy hall of fame. how did they get -- this was a big deal. you essentially were trying to get boys to play with dolls. was that important to make sure it wasn't called a doll? >> it was. as i understand it, doll was the unspoken four-letter word at hasbro and that he needed to be this new thing. he needed to be an action figure. >> i was a heman guy as a kid. this is the one that started it all. how revolutionary was it at the time? right now, it's no big deal because we have action figures all over. but at the time. >> everything before him had been fixed and little.

he was the little green army man in plastic, cast-lead soldiers. if you were playing soldiers, they were faceless. and now you could identify with this action figure soldier. >> let's take a look now at a commercial from back in the day, this was in the '70s. g.i. joe underwent major changes. let's take a look. >> and here is g.i. joe with kung fu grip. g.i. joe has hands that grip, fingers you hold open and let close, hands that hold on with a kung fu grip. >> a lot of changes to the image over the year. why were many of these necessary? it kind of became this all-american guy. >> the reaction to the vietnam war turned people against the military. there were people protesting g.i. joe. so he sort of mustered out of his military role and became part of an action team so that he is going on adventures rather than being part of a military

unit. >> what do i have here? i have a few sitting here. what am i looking at? >> the original 1964 g.i. joe, the army variation of that. in between him and the larger g.i. joe -- >> this is the original? >> right. and then he got downsized, as so many of us have in our careers. in the 1980s, he turned as a 3 3/4-inch action figure. >> we know how iconic this g.i. joe is. but it lost popularity to the point that people may assume it's being made every year and updated. it's not. >> in fact, he was off the market for five years in the late 1970s, early 1980s. >> just not selling, kids moving on to other things? >> that's right. star wars characters basically blew him out of the water. >> can it still be relevant? i know the g.i. joe movies,

there have been at least two, that brought g.i. joe back and popularized it a little bit more, updated it. is that what you need these days? does it need a hip, cool look? can g.i. joe make a comeback? >> he's having a comeback. he had a saturday morning cartoon in the '80s. there's lunchboxes, ancillary products. he's a whole constellation, all the characters have backstories. he has villains he didn't when he started out as an isolated soldier. it's a whole world made for play. >> we all remember getting those as kids, christmas and whatnot, birthdays. good to have you here. thank you so much. good back-to-back segments here. talked to the young lady and now taken back to my youth. up next, back to some reality, maybe. we have to talk about what else is going on in the world. including the president making a major commitment in the crisis in syria.

we are live traveling with the president in california. also, we're going to be talking about what's happening in the olympics. live in sochi with today's latest developments as the u.s. fights to lead the gold medal count. you're watching msnbc. dream it, purina pro plan can help him achieve it. ♪ driving rock/metal music stops ♪music resumes music stops ♪music resumes [announcer] purina pro plan's bioavailable formulas deliver optimal nutrient absorption. [whistle] purina pro plan. nutrition that performs. we know in the cyber world, threats are always evolving. at first, we were protecting networks. then, we were protecting the transfer of data. and today it's evolved to infrastructure... ♪ ...finance...

and military missions. we're constantly innovating to advance the front line in the cyber battle, wherever it takes us. that's the value of performance. northrop grumman. ladies... kitchen counselor. it's likely your detergent. cascade platinum's triple cleaning formula delivers brilliant shine finish gel can't beat. it even helps keep your dishwasher sparkling. cascade platinum is cascade's best. ♪ ♪ be powerful... ...connect. verizon.

[ screaming ] ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing the bold, all-new nissan rogue with intuitive all-wheel drive. because winter needs a hero. ♪ so i deserve a small business credit card with amazing rewards. with the spark cash card from capital one, i get 2% cash back on every purchase, every day. i break my back around here. finally someone's recognizing me with unlimited rewards!

meetings start at 11, cindy. [ male announcer ] get the spark business card from capital one. choose 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day. what's in your wallet? i need your timesheets, larry! a regime led by bashar al assad that has shown very little regard for the well-being of his people, has attacked civilians in ruthless ways. we are going to need a political transition in that region. >> a major commitment to the crisis in syria. president obama promises to help jordan deal with thousands of syrian refugees. we're live traveling with the president. hello to you all. i'm t.j. holmes. craig melvin is off today. you are watching msnbc. ready to enroll? today, an intensified effort to get young people on obamacare.

but on national youth enrollment day, will a shutdown of the website leave applicants using pen and paper? also ahead -- >> is the problem of the uaw has a need for our money. >> it's hard to hold the emotion back. my heart is pounding with exceeding joy. >> a devastating defeat for labor in the south. late last night, volkswagen workers in tennessee said no to joining the uaw. what this means for the future of organized labor in the u.s. also this -- >> felony disenfranchisement laws are still on the books. and the current scope of these policies is not only too significant to ignore, it is also too unjust to tolerate. >> restoring voting rights. state laws are keeping felons, mainly minorities, from the polls after they've served their time. the new push to repeal these laws that date back to the 1800s. plus the so-called paradox of parenthood.

science says modern parents may not be as happy. but there is still joy and purpose on this valentine's day weekend. stick around for that one. we need to start this hour with the crisis in syria. peace talks in geneva have come to an end between the syrian government and rebels with no resolution. late last night, president obama pledged $1 billion to king abdullah of jordan to help the refugees fleeing the war in syria. let me bring in kristen welker who's traveling with the president in california. hello and what does this package ultimately mean? >> reporter: well, t.j., this package is consistent with the united states' policy towards syria and its neighbors, essentially giving large amounts of aid to help the humanitarian crisis, in this instance giving aid to jordan as it houses 600,000 syrian refugees. as you can imagine, that has put a huge strain on the jordanian

economy. but as you pointed out at the top, the situation in syria continues to be a crisis, peace talks broke down. there is no new date that's been set for peace talks to resume. this all comes as there's been fresh fighting throughout the country. now, according to a british-based organization, the syrian observatory for human rights, as many as 6,000 people have been killed since the talks first began in geneva on january 22nd. and overall, more than 140,000 people have been killed in syria. so the crisis continues. the other headline i would point out here, though, is that in meeting with king abdullah yesterday, president obama said that the united states is looking for more intermediary steps to pressure president bashar al assad to step down. the question is, what will those steps look like? the administration is not saying at this hour, not getting specific. but i've been talking with folks who are familiar with this

situation, foreign policy experts who say they anticipate the steps, maybe increased aid to the opposition, potentially covert aid the u.s. gives. the administration not giving specifics on this. critics say the administration needs to rethink its syrian policy. president obama suggesting he might be looking into that. but not giving specifics at this hour as the crisis rages on in syria. >> nbc's kristen welker traveling with the president in california, thank you. one in four adults under 35 years old still don't have health insurance. so dudsens of obamacare supporters are coming together to raise those numbers. they've called today national youth enrollment day, holding events across the country to educate young people about coverage options and urging them to sign up before the march 31st enrollment deadline. just one problem here, part of healthcare.gov just went down this hour for maintenance, for

the next three days. the president of enroll america is with us. bad timing, how does that happen on national youth enrollment day, the website goes down? >> the social security administration had to do routine maintenance on the site. but there's a couple of really important things to know. first, we were able to hold dozens of events this morning, get many people all the way through the door to get enrolled. but even know -- this is important for folks that are watching who are interested in enrolling, you can go to the site, you can begin the process. you can compare your plans. you can go to our website, getdiscoveredamerica.org and use a calculator to learn the level of tax subsidy you can expect to get. so there's a lot people can do right now. then you have until march 31st to finalize the process. >> how is it going with the young invincibles, getting them to sign up? >> we've seen some real increases. this week, h.h.s. put the latest

enrollment numbers out. we saw a 56% increase in terms of the enrollment across the board and 65% among young people. we're really seeing the numbers increase. for all of us working on this, we expected that young people would wait till the end until they completed the process. but i think the most important thing is we know there's still a lot of young people out there who don't know that financial assistance is available. and we know that half of young people, especially those folks that are single, can get coverage for under $50 a month. what we need to do is all come together, get the word out and make sure folks know they need to enroll by march 31st. there's some real great opportunities for them to do so. >> hispanics are key to enrollment. i want to put up some numbers here in terms of hispanic enrollment, numbers we're getting from the department of health and human services. sounds like you're trying to target hispanics and women as well. let's start hispanics. how are you going about trying to target this key group that are going to be important in

signing up? >> well, we know that all communities of color and particularly the latino community really stand to benefit and are really lagging behind in terms of information that they need to enroll. so we are hosting latino enrollment events across the country. we just hosted one in san antonio last week and we're going to be doing this in over 15 cities across the country. we're also working with faith leaders. we're working with community colleges. we're working with small business owners, beauty and barbershop owners, for example. it's about having a presence in communities, going where people naturally go for information and making sure they have information like our website, getcoveredamerica.org where they can get the tools that they need to learn more and help their families enroll in coverage. >> is it an impediment -- some states where governors are kind of rejecting some parts of the health care law, including not expanding medicaid. what are your challenges in those states? >> that is a real challenge.

there are state leaders who decided not to expand medicaid. that means that there are people in those states who aren't going to have good options for health coverage and that's a real shame. it is important to note that there are millions of people across the country who do stand to benefit. h.h.s. put out some information this week showing eight out of ten latinos do have opportunities for enrollment. so we're doing that work to make sure that those that do stand to benefit, those millions of folks out there who right now can begin the process to enroll and can finish enrollment before march 31st, that they have the tools and not just the fact that they know that the marketplace is available but that they know that financial assistance is available to them and what they can expect when they go to the website. >> the president getting the word out. on a lighter note, this is the president's tweet essentially saying, is this a good way to spread the message of signing up? having a little fun there. he's taken a beating over this health care law.

ann, thank you so much for being here. we'll check in with you again as your efforts continue. thanks so much. >> thanks, t.j. another big day at the winter olympics in sochi. we'll get you caught up on the latest medal count. russia takes the top spot with 15 total medals. the netherlands right behind with 14. team usa, also 14 medals. norway, 13. germany rounds out the top five with 12. but the story of the day is hockey. hockey that's reminiscent of the 1980 miracle on ice. nbc's kevin tibbles has a recap of that and other big headlines. give you a little spoiler alert here. if you don't want to know about this stuff, turn the tv down for a moment. >> reporter: i think first of all what is most worth mentioning about today's hockey game is the fact that our nation's new hero has the same moniker as you. t.j. oshie who plays for the st. louis blues in the nhl, folks in st. louis and missouri know all

about him, as do the folks in his tiny houmt of war road, minnesota, which is two miles from the canadian border. that's where he played his high school hockey, a town of about 1,700 people. i'm sure all of them were cheering for him today. what a nail-biter of a game. nothing like it was in the olden days. these games are played by professionals. they're fast. they're very competitive. and it went down to an overtime period and then a shootout, just the way that they do it in the nhl these days. and t.j. oshie came through for the united states of america putting in that winning goal, making himself a household name across the country, even getting tweeted by the big man, president barack obama hit and miss. that's what went on in the hockey rink. tremendous revisit to the rivalry of the miracle on ice days. up in the mountains today, another very warm day, tough on the skiers, especially the

women. julia mancuso finished in eighth place. a lot of the women didn't finish that course because a lot of them fell. but at the end of the day, julia mancuso remains this country's most medaled olympic downhill skier in the women's category. and then on the men's speed skating rink, unfortunately shani davis also finished eighth. but you can't take anything away from this young man's career either because he is the most celebrated speed skater that the united states has ever produced. fascinating competition here, the hockey is just getting under way. team usa has performed wonderfully and they're just getting warmed up. back to you, t.j. >> thanks to our kevin tibbles from sochi. up next, defeated in tennessee. auto workers crush attempts to unionize their factor. also, the parenting paradox.

the new book that says behind diapers, arguments and the pressure to be perfect, parents can still find joy. [ male announcer ] a year after hurricane sandy, moonachie, new jersey, firefighters were still rebuilding their own house with limited funds for the most important necessities.

ugh...this toilet paper's like sandpaper. [ male announcer ] that's when the charmin relief project came to the rescue. holy charmin. [ male announcer ] delivering over 10,000 rolls of bath tissue. charmin not only saved the day. charmin saved our butts. [ male announcer ] making a firehouse feel like home again. one more way the charmin relief project is helping people enjoy the go. and five simple whole grains, new multigrain cheerios dark chocolate crunch is breakfast... with benefits. start your day with a delicious new crunch. healthy never tasted so good. a steel cage: death match of midsize sedans. start your day with a delicious new crunch. the volkswagen passat against all comers. turbocharged engines against...engines. best in class rear legroom against other-class legroom. but then we realized. consumers already did that. twice. huh. maybe that's why nobody else showed up. how does one get out of a death cage?

vo: right now, get 0.9% apr on all passat models plus a total of $1000 in bonuses.

topping the saturday headlines, more snow falling in the northeast. surprise, surprise. over 5 more inches of snow expected in new england with smaller accumulations further south. some good news, the storm is moving fast. should give way to clear skies soon. secretary of state john kerry arrived in indonesia fresh off a trip from china where he won an agreement with beijing to cooperate more closely in reducing the effect of climate change. kerry is expected to speak on sunday and ask other nations to follow suit. and a 4.1 magnitude earthquake shook up south carolina. this happened overnight. several social media reports say

the quake could be felt throughout the state and into georgia. it's the second largest quake ever to hit the state. union organizers in the south are dealing with a stinging defeat today. workers at the volkswagen manufacturing plant in chattanooga, tennessee, voted 712-626 to not join the united auto workers. massive 79-year-old union. the results of three days of balloting were tallied last night. the union vote has been a politically charged issue in the right to work state. harold meyerson is an op-ed columnist for "the washington post." what does this mean for uaw and labor in the south? >> labor in the south has never been very strong. these are the so-called right to work states. a handful of the states have never passed minimum wage laws are mainly southern states, including tennessee. so it means unions are going to remain very week in the south. but there's also problems for unions like the uaw about lower

labor standards in the south, lowering labor standards and wages in northern unionized plants. that's a real impact, i think. >> to its credit, perhaps, volkswagen took no position one way or the other. but politicians apparently got involved. and one that got a lot of attention was senator bob corker of tennessee, former mayor there of chattanooga. he said, i've had conversations today and based on those, i'm assured should the workers vote against the uaw, volkswagen will announce in the coming weeks it will manufacture its new mid-sized suv in chattanooga. volkswagen denied that took place. but president obama got involved as well. he had some comments for democratic lawmakers friday. he weighed in saying briefly here that in fact he believes that the folks down in the south or some of them at least are trying to side more so with overseas companies than they are with american workers. did either one of these comments, especially from corker, have any impact on the vote?

>> it might have. corker's comments and that of a republican state senator from the area who said volkswagen couldn't expect any more help -- any more assistance from the state if it went union. that was pretty much of a threat. and the republicans in the south are used to a non-union economy and unions bring some political heft usually on the democratic side of the ledger. so there was considerable republican opposition to this from elected officials and some of what they said, i think, could be construed as a threat. >> is there a clash, something unique -- a culture clash some might argue -- between workers in tennessee and the uaw? >> well, i think there is something of a culture clash as unions assert more economic rights than are usually the case in southern states. the uaw for instance organizes more than auto workers. they organize a lot of teachers and grad students. they won an election a few

months ago among nyu teaching assistants in the city of new york by a margin of 620-10. so no culture clash there. but obviously something of a culture clash in chattanooga. >> you say this is kind of par for the course. this is being talked about as a huge stinging defeat but it shouldn't come as a surprise. >> it's surprising only in that this is the one time that the employer didn't oppose the union. that was unique. and that's in part because german companies have boards of directors that are divided evenly between worker representatives and management representatives. so the odd thing about this is that the workers in the volkswagen plant in chattanooga already benefit from the fact that it's a union company in germany. but they didn't want -- there was a majority that didn't want to go for a union company in tennessee. >> harold meyerson from the american prospect, good to see you on this saturday. thanks so much. >> thank you. students at reid college in portland may have had a little too much time on their hands. and a little too much fun.

two math majors created a massive snowball. sounds simple enough. it was all good fun until things went literally downhill as you can see from the picture. the 800-pound snowball rolled into a dorm building, cracked the wall. school officials say it will cost $2,000 to $3,000 and a scholarship or two to repair. the next time you rent a dvd, don't bother rewinding it. the way i see it, it's the next guy's problem. oh, larry. she thinks i'm crazy. mm-hmm. but would a crazy person save 15% on car insurance in just 15 minutes? [ chuckles ] [ male announcer ] 15 minutes for a quote is crazy. with esurance, 7½ minutes could save you on car insurance. welcome to the modern world. esurance. backed by allstate. click or call. this is the creamy chicken corn chowder. i mean, look at it. so indulgent. did i tell you i am on the... [ both ] chicken pot pie diet! me too!

[ male announcer ] so indulgent, you'll never believe they're light. 100-calorie progresso light soups. good and close. help keep teeth clean and breath fresh. with beneful healthy smile food and snacks. he'll love the crunch of the healthy smile kibbles. you'll love how they help clean. with soft, meaty centers, and teeth cleaning texture, healthy smile snacks help keep a shine on his smile. it's dental that tastes so good. beneful healthy smile food and snacks. i didn't think i could buy them their own, let alone for under $300. but this asus with windows is lightweight and has everything they need -- not like chromebooks that can't install office or have to be connected to the internet to get much done. with this they can do homework, chat, play games -- on their own laptop, and their own time. so no more fighting... at least not over my laptop.

♪ honestly, i wanna see you be brave ♪ [ male announcer ] wintcannot take a sick day.p. [ coughs ] [ male announcer ] so when he catches a cold, he's got to power through it. ♪ vicks dayquil. powerful non-drowsy 6 symptom cold and flu relief. winter olympian ted ligety can't take a sick day tomorrow. [ coughs ] [ male announcer ] so he can't let a cold keep him up tonight. vicks nyquil.

powerful nighttime 6 symptom cold and flu relief. ♪ hey there, i just got my bill, and i see that it includes my fico® credit score. yup, you get it free each month to help you avoid surprises with your credit. good. i hate surprises. surprise! at discover, we treat you like you'd treat you. get the it card and see your fico® credit score. were those couples out there with kids, do you even know it's valentine's day weekend? well, many couples have their lives revolve around their children, giving up their own happiness to some degree. but it doesn't have to be that way. let me bring in jennifer. she authors a book about being a parent and not on parenting. we were going at it here in the commercial break. are you essentially saying that married couples with kids are not as happy as the married couples that don't have kids? >> i'm not saying it. >> you're not saying it.

who's saying it? >> how many studies do you have time for me to start reeling off. it's so complicated. i can give you good news. >> i'm listening. >> you're less apt to divorce if you've got children. >> but it has to do with the children and not the happiness. >> but they are providing earthly ties that bind, they bind you together. it's easier to walk if you don't have a kid. >> easier to walk? >> yes. >> give us the idea. what is it that takes such a toll on the couple? so much attention to the kids, but why can't we any longer do this thing -- >> a couple of things. we still don't have a script for what happens now that women are working. what couples fight about, chores, still. all these years hence. this is an interesting thing. how long have women been in the workforce? a long time. last year, they overtook men's workforce participation.

so we fight about -- couples fight about that. >> wait a minute. i thought we were saying the unhappiness comes because so much attention is focused on the child and not on the couple in the relationship anymore. >> that is part of it as well. women now spend more time with their children than they did in the 1960s when they weren't working. and men -- which is a remarkable statistic. and so do men, so, yes. >> but a toll happens with women as well that doesn't happen with men in that women have this need to compete with other women to see who's the best mom, who's super mom. and this weighs on them. guys, we don't care. >> that's right. in fact, one father said to me something i haven't forgotten. when he comes home, he is the standard. can you imagine a woman saying that? >> wow. >> and what would you give to hear women saying that about themselves? that they are the standard when they parent. >> this might scare some people. but moms can learn from dads about parenting. >> what i actually say in there -- the ramp-up to it makes sense.

i think they could probably learn a lot from the really good engaged immersive dads in their lives. the truth is -- who might be their husbands. the truth is, they just forgive themselves more. and they're not tiyrannized by those standards. they're not watching tv and -- my favorite tv character, tammy taylor on "friday night lights." she's fictional. she's an amazing mother but she's not real. i don't think they're tyrannized by the same stuff. >> last thing, lift people up a little bit. find that balance between being this married couple and in love that you were when you have the kid in the house now. >> couples spend way less time together now than they did in the 1970s. they had the same number of kids. the difference? they feel more comfortable sending the kids outside to play.

they put them on a bike and bang a gong at like 6:00 and say come back in. right. there's no harm done. there's no material evidence to suggest that you're harming your kid by letting them play by themselves. >> well, all right. honey, i'm on the way home. we're putting the 1-year-old out on second avenue. we're going to go do our thing. the book is called, "all joy and no fun." there it is. >> jennifer, it's been enlightening. i'll pay you for the session. thank you so much. barred for life. attorney general eric holder makes the case to restore voting rights to millions of felons after they've served their time. what it could mean for elections in crucial states. [announcer] word is getting out. purina dog chow light & healthy is a deliciously tender and crunchy kibble blend. with 20% fewer calories than purina dog chow.

isn't it time you discovered the lighter side of dog chow. purina dog chow light & healthy. try align. it's the number one ge recommended probiotic that helps maintain digestive balance. ♪ stay in the groove with align. ♪ ♪ ♪ told ya you could do it. (dad vo) i want her to be safe. so, i taught her what i could and got her a subaru. (girl) piece of cake. ♪ (announcer) love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru.

♪ every now and then i get a little bit hungry ♪ ♪ and there's nothing good around ♪ ♪ turn around, barry ♪ i finally found the right snack ♪ [ female announcer ] fiber one. yeah... try new alka seltzer fruit chews. they work fast on heartburn and taste awesome. these are good. told ya! i'm feeling better already. [ male announcer ] new alka seltzer fruits chews. enjoy the relief! the los angeles area is preparing for a major freeway

shutdown over presidents day weekend. they are calling this thing jamzill a. rampant lane closures began overnight on the 405 freeway and aren't expected to open again until tuesday. hello to you all. i'm t.j. holmes. craig melvin is off today. here's a look at the other stories making headlines. nearly 225,000 homes and businesses remain without power in georgia and south carolina from this week's storms. officials say it could be days before power is restored. about 1.2 million utility customers from the south to the northeast lost power at some point this week. heavy rain and strong winds continue to batter britain today. at least two deaths are being blamed on this storm. a woman died in central london when part of a building fell on her car. one local emergency planner said this was the worst storm to hit the area in living memory. part of what we enjoy about our jobs a every day is different. i feel fairly sure at the

beginning of today, we never thought this is how our day would be going. >> heavy snow caused a portion of the roof to collapse at a pennsylvania studio. the fire department ordered staff to evacuate. so to make air, the station did their news outside from their satellite truck in the parking lot. the jury in the murder trial of michael dunn now well into its fourth day of deliberations in a florida courthouse. dunn charged with murder and the shooting death of 17-year-old jordan davis in what start as a dispute over loud music. nbc's kerry sanders outside the courthouse in jacksonville, florida. kerry, it's been quiet since earlier today. they had initial few questions. we haven't heard from them in a while. >> reporter: exactly. and they remain deliberatio deliberations. i think it's important to almost reflect what the judge has said in respect that the jury is taking this very seriously. this is a 12-member jury and a

lot of people are looking at this case and looking back at the "stand your ground" case with george zimmerman where he also said it was self-defense and the jury there indeed found that it was self-defense and he was acquitted on those charges. in that case it was about 16 1/2 hours for the jury to deliberate. but the differences in that case, it was a second-degree murder charge. in florida, that's a six-member jury. in this case, it's a first-degree murder charge. so 12 members of this jury are inside that room continuing to discuss their different points. they've asked the judge some questions which indicate they have indeed reached some conclusions on some of the charges. three of the charges are attempted murder because of dunn shooting at the car. another charge is that there was shooting a missile, which he did, shot a missile. there were the bullet holes in the car. so the jury may have reached conclusion on those and the attempted murder because there were three other people in the

car, three charges. and then the top charge here which is the first-degree murder charge, which the jury can come back and say we don't find guilty for first degree or second degree or manslaughter. or they can say it's justifiable and not guilty. it appears based on their questions, to read the tea leaves, that they're hung up on that one particular charge. and it's likely with 12 people in there that there are some people who are strongly in belief after hearing him testify that he indeed believed he was threatened and that it was self-defense, even though no gun was ever found and even though there was no indication other than his testimony that the 17-year-old from the car ever pointed anything at him that might have been a gun or was a gun. >> and it's getting late in the day. will they come back tomorrow? >> reporter: yes. this is what they'll do. the judge will keep them here. and it's important because they don't want to have an appellate issue here. it's important that the judge gives the jury time to continue

their deliberations but not to exhaust them because that can then become an appellate issue. so they will put in a full day today. at some point the judge will tell them, if you have not reached a verdict, you can come back tomorrow. if they throw their hands up and say, look, judge, we're just never going to agree on this, then they have to do something called an allen charge, which jurors probably don't know, but the judge will say, i need you to go back in, give it one last college try and go through that last effort. so as we look at the time of the day, it's moving along, i think somewhere in the next hour and a half to two hours, we're probably going to hear the judge check on them and likely, if they've not reached a conclusion, send them back to the hotel where they're sequestered and bring them back again tomorrow. the judge did indicate that there is some case law that suggests that deliberating on sundays may be a problem. so he hasn't fully decided. but he did give an indication that he believes it's okay for a jury in the state of florida to deliberate on sundays. >> kerry sanders, thank you once

again, from jacksonville, florida. attorney general eric holder continues to take a stand for voting rights. he's calling on states to repeal laws that bar felons from voting after they're no longer behind bars. according to the sentencing project, 11 states deny voting rights to felons after they've successfully completed their sentences. over all, 5.8 millions can't vote because they have criminal records. that number hitting the african-american community particularly hard. nearly 7.7% of the adult african-american population is disenfranchised because of restrictions to felons, compared to 1.8% of the non-african-american population. attorney general holder made his case this week. >> it is time to fundamentally reconsider laws that permanently disenfranchise people who are no longer under federal or state supervision. these restrictions are not only unnecessary and unjust, they're also counterproductive.

>> the co-director of the advancement project joins us. to those folks out there who say, these folks did something wrong, some of these are serious crimes, they're felons, you should have this right taken away. you've shown poor judgment. >> in this country, we do believe in redemption. we also believe in democracy. so if you have done your time and paid your debt to society, you should have your right to vote restored. it's really important that we allow people who have been through the criminal justice system to participate because, in fact, what we see is that recidivism rates go down when people are able to engage in civic participation. >> on that point of the recidivism rate, aren't those cases where people have to or felons have to ask, they have to ask for their rights to be reinstated? so just by that alone, these are folks who are clearly trying to get back into society, trying to get back into the fold and want this right back.

so are those really good numbers to go by? >> they're definitely good numbers to go by because people get more engaged. if you've been through the criminal justice system, people typically do care about the kinds of laws that impact their lives. and really important to this is, one in five african-americans in states like virginia and florida don't have their right to vote due to felony convictions. that devastates those communities when there is a loss of political power due to these felony convictions. so you could imagine that mass incarceration and the war on drugs that has devastated black communities also has had this other collateral consequence, which is taking away political power. but we've had some wins. in virginia, we were involved in pushing on the governor to get him to restore rights for non-violent felony convictions. so i think we're going to see this issue moving in the other direction. >> there are some studies out there, back to 2002, showing that disenfranchised felons in florida, if they had been

permitted to vote, gore would have carried the state and the election. some people make an argument for this, maybe there's a political argument. but i don't think that's where you're coming from. yours isn't a political argument about getting these folks on the rolls to vote one way or another. you firmly believe as soon as you get out of prison, you think the right should be restored at that moment? >> that's right. you've paid your debt. why can't you participate? we shouldn't be taking away the right to vote for a lifetime for people. really we should be encouraging people to participate to become full citizens in our democracy. our country does better when we're all able to engage in participation, we're all able to have a voice in our democracy, we're all able to elect the people who would best represent us. and so this is really an issue about freedom, democracy and equal opportunity, not about partisanship. >> what about the idea of voting while in prison?

>> yeah, there are some states that actually allow that. because at the end of the day, these people are still paying their debt, etch if you're in prison, you are paying your debt, you're paying your time. we have to understand, these laws date back to the 1800s. they're a little archaic. we really should be rethinking what it means to be a democracy, to be a participant, to encourage people to want to do better, to want to be included and to want to get themselves back on their feet. and people who are in prison in some states, it's allowed. personally and from advancement project, we don't see a problem with that because we want people to participate. >> you have to be a registered voter, end up being able to serve on juries as well. and there is some signs, some lawmakers out there in certain states who have said they're at least open to some reform because it's going to be up to

states. eric holder, even though he said he supports this, he can't snap his finger and make it happen. >> that's right. >> always good to talk to you. thank you. >> take care. this week, political brinksmanship nearly put the nation on the edge of default, even a credit downgrade. how the work of one person could have caused a catastrophe. that's next in the "brain trust." we decided to settle this. a steel cage death match of midsize sedans. the volkswagen passat against all comers. turbocharged engines against...engines. best in class rear legroom against other-class legroom. but then we realized. consumers already did that. twice. huh. maybe that's why nobody else showed up. how does one get out of a death cage? vo: right now, get 0.9% apr on all passat models plus a total of $1000 in bonuses. whoa! sweet mother of softness. paws off pal. just one squeeze?

just enjoy it with your eyes. [ female announcer ] new charmin ultra soft is so soft you don't even have to squeeze it to believe it. for the first time you can actually see the softness with our new comfort cushions. new charmin ultra soft is still so much softer and more absorbent you can use up to four times less. i believe it, but i still gotta squeeze it. [ female announcer ] used by more plumbers charmin is now clog-free or it's free. before chantix, i tried to quit probably about five times. it was different than the other times i tried to quit. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix varenicline is proven to help people quit smoking. it's a non-nicotine pill. chantix reduced my urge to smoke. that helped me quit smoking. [ male announcer ] some people had changes in behavior, thinking, or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood, and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. if you notice any of these, stop chantix, and call your doctor right away. tell your doctor about any history of mental-health problems, which could get worse while taking chantix. don't take chantix if you've had a serious allergic or skin reaction to it. if you develop these, stop chantix and see your doctor right away, as some can be life-threatening.

tell your doctor if you have a history of heart or blood-vessel problems or if you develop new or worse symptoms. get medical help right away if you have symptoms of a heart attack or stroke. use caution when driving or operating machinery. common side effects include nausea, trouble sleeping, and unusual dreams. my quit date was my son's birthday, and that was my gift for him and me. [ male announcer ] ask your doctor if chantix is right for you. purina pro plan can help him drachieve it.me. ♪ epic classical music stops ♪music resumes music stops ♪music resumes [announcer] purina pro plan's bioavailable formulas deliver optimal nutrient absorption. [owner] come on. [announcer] purina pro plan. nutrition that performs. ♪ ♪

[ female announcer ] with five perfectly sweetened whole grains... you can't help but see the good. [ male announcer ] even more impressive than the research this man has at his disposal is how he puts it to work for his clients. morning. morning. thanks for meeting so early. come on in. [ male announcer ] it's how edward jones makes sense of investing. disaster averted this week, for now. let's get to the "brain trust." dana milbank, columnist for "the washington post." lynn sweet and robert tranham, former bush/cheney adviser. we confirmed that the president did, in fact, sign the debt ceiling bill. we didn't know how it was going to go down. but i want to bring up something that you wrote here. talking about this could have fallen apart if republican

senator ted cruz had gotten his way. his actions suggest cruz has put himself before his party and even the nation's solvency and in this sense, his actions are typical of a 2016 gop presidential feel. cruz, marco rubio and rand paul are mucking up the gears of government in the ways that will earn them favorable attention in the primaries. they're mucking it up -- you don't think that they're standing for what they believe in and standing on a principle? why are you laughing at me, dana? >> i'm not laughing at you, t.j. i think you were saying that with a twinkle in your eye. look, i'm sure that these guys have principles. but let's take what happened on wednesday afternoon for example, the government runs out of money on february 27th. the house passed the debt limit bill and left town for a couple of weeks. if the senate doesn't pass this bill, whatever your principles are, we're sending the nation into default unless there's another heroic activity that nobody had any idea of what the

plan "b" would be. so inforcing the senate not to approve the debt limit and going for 60-vote, basically forcing his own republicans to walk the plank in support of this, it caused this moment of panic when it appeared they would be sending the nation into default. whatever you care about the national debt, that's going to make our finances a whole lot worse than actually raising the debt limit. >> but, lynn, is it going to work in the primaries for these gentlemen if they decide to get in? >> we know already that he's caused trouble for mitch mcconnell because his republican primary opponent who comes from the tea party movement has already blasted him for the vote. it was a move that cruz and company had to know would only hurt fellow republicans more than anyone else. we have to look at the individual primaries play out. but let's note that in the house, they were able to limit their damage because they had a very structured deal with the

democrats and only 28 republicans in the house had a vote for the debt bill. believe me, i don't think any of them really wanted to do it. >> before i have to get to this break in 45 seconds, robert, you explain to me, then, are they doing what their constituencies want them to do? >> well, let's be clear here. there is something to be said about a principle. i strongly agree with what cruz did. but let's talk about principle for a little bit. mitch mcconnell and some of the other senators that in fact do have tough primaries actually put their country ahead of their party. so there's a flip side to this that we should focus on and that's the positive as opposed to the negative. i wish we would focus more on that as opposed to the negative. >> we're coming back after the break. i know you have something you want to say. we're going to get to something else but i'll bring you back in to get your thoughts. we certainly want to talk as well about another story that's been a big deal this week. it's a sports story. nfl getting a free pass, some say, talking about bullying and

homophobe ya. why do we hold the league to a different standard than the rest of us live up to? ♪ ♪ be powerful... ...connect. verizon. well, did you know that just one sheet of bounce outdoor fresh gives you more freshness than two sheets of the leading national store brand?

who knew? so, how do you get your bounce? with more freshness in a single sheet. so, how do you get your bounce? (meowright on cue. it's more than just a meal, it's meow mix mealtime. with wholesome ingredients and irresistible taste, it's the only one cats ask for by name. this is the creamy chicken corn chowder. i mean, look at it. so indulgent. did i tell you i am on the... [ both ] chicken pot pie diet! me too! [ male announcer ] so indulgent, you'll never believe they're light. 100-calorie progresso light soups. you'll never believe they're light. humans -- even when we cross our "t's" and dot our "i's," we still run into problems. that's why liberty mutual insurance offers accident forgiveness with our auto policies. if you qualify, your rates won't go up due to your first accident. because making mistakes is only human,

and so are we. we also offer new car replacement, so if you total your new car, we give you the money for a new one. call liberty mutual insurance at... and ask us all about our auto features, like guaranteed repairs, where if you get into an accident and use one of our certified repair shops, your repairs are guaranteed for life. so call... to talk with an insurance expert about everything that comes standard with our base auto policy. and if you switch, you could save up to $423. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy?

back with the brain trust, dana milbank of "washington post" and robert trainor. you wanted to make probably an important point that it's a big deal if somebody puts country before party. >> absolutely. there are hundreds of republicans, particularly in the house, that have gone on record as saying they adamantly oppose raising the debt ceiling. we've been through this dance before. they said let's do what's right in the world interest of the economy. dana mentioned in his piece mitch mcconnell did it and some other folks. ted cruz is a rebel, he loves to

go up to the bee hive and hit it and there are other republicans trying to do the right thing and i wish we'd focus on that instead of the negative. >> that's an important point. dana, i want to listen to dallas sports legend, al hinson. he's talking about michael sam who came out as gay, a big-time player in the college. >> you beat a woman and drag had your down a flight of stairs and pull her hair out by roots, you're the fourth person taken in the nfl draft, you kill someone, you're welcome. players with prostitutes and drunk, we know they're welcome, you lie to police trying to cover up a murder, we're comfortable about that. you love another man, well, now you've gone too far.

>> dana, is he on point there? >> well, i think he really is and i think a lot of people are going to be watching the nfl and how it basis in this instance, particularly after the debacle in miami. this is an organization of a lot of coddled billionaires right now. the nfl doesn't pay taxes, the nfl teams are highly subsidized, they have anti-trust exemptions and they are not exempt from workplace harassment and other laws. they've gotten a free ride for an awful long time and i suspect that's not going to last a whole lot longer. >> the nfl commissioner has put out a statement saying we have further training -- we will have further training to make sure everyone understands our commitment, we believe in diversity and this is our opportunity to demonstrate it. still it's going to be up to the owners and those in the locker

rooms to change the culture. a lot of people tell you this is a different world. >> it's a workplace, this is a job for these players. as the dallas broadcaster said, there's been a lot of tolerance of horrible behavior on the part of football players and this is a business. i can't underscore enough what dana said. do people understand that the nfl operates as a nonprofit institution? like the red cross or goodwill or local charity? please. even though they can make work the books so they don't necessarily show a profit or pay taxes, they use every government rule they find to subsidize their stadium, they have a lot of work to make the work a hospitable place for men. you can't excuse this away that this is a jock mentality and men will be men. real men aren't going to be like that and they should have more than a no tolerance policy. they should just declare that you can't do this. >> robert said that this went

too far. i read this report and most of it you can't even put on television. but still to some extent this type of bullying, if we want to call it or at least the hazing that has taken place, you know, with much fanfare over the years. >> absolutely. >> is it fair for us to sit here and say they need to act in that locker room where it takes a different mentality, they need to act like we act here in our workplace? >> well, let's be very, very clear about this. michael sam is a very, very talented athlete, who just so happens to be gay. and the menl at that time should be just the same. he should be as a professional. he should be treated not only because of who he chooses to sleep with, but he should be chosen based on his athletic prowess. isn't that what this is about? this isn't about a mentality. this is about discrimination because he chooses to sleep with

someone who quite frankly i choose to sleep with because i'm a gay american. this goes back to jackie robinson, just because of the color of someone's school or in this case someone's sexual orientation, they're getting discriminated against. it has to stop. >> lynn, take the last 30 seconds. >> i'm glad we brought up jackie robinson because this is just another milestone the nfl needs to pass. this is an era where gay americans are getting a lot of rights they deserve, including gay marriage and, you know, sam i would think would wantrobinsot to be allowed to play and show his stuff on the field. >> always good to see you all. thanks so much. you all enjoy the rest of your saturday. we appreciate you all watching here. again, we're still on verdict watch around here and a lot of

you wanting an update. the jury on the michael dunn case still deliberating. still, i can see her in the distance there, karen finney, ready to roll! rthritis symptoms. rthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief for many with arthritis pain and inflammation. plus, in clinical studies, celebrex is proven to improve daily physical function so moving is easier. celebrex can be taken with or without food. and it's not a narcotic. you and your doctor should balance the benefits with the risks. all prescription nsaids, like celebrex, ibuprofen, naproxen and meloxicam have the same cardiovascular warning. they all may increase the chance of heart attack or stroke, which can lead to death.

this chance increases if you have heart disease or risk factors such as high blood pressure or when nsaids are taken for long periods. nsaids, like celebrex, increase the chance of serious skin or allergic reactions, or stomach and intestine problems, such as bleeding and ulcers, which can occur without warning and may cause death. patients also taking aspirin and the elderly are at increased risk for stomach bleeding and ulcers. don't take celebrex if you have bleeding in the stomach or intestine, or had an asthma attack, hives, other allergies to aspirin, nsaids or sulfonamides. get help right away if you have swelling of the face or throat, or trouble breathing. tell your doctor your medical history. and find an arthritis treatment for you. visit celebrex.com and ask your doctor about celebrex. for a body in motion. [ female announcer ] one drop of ultra dawn has twice the everyday grease-cleaning ingredients of one drop of the leading non-concentrated brand... to clean two times more greasy dishes. dawn does more, so it's not a chore.

the day building a play set begins with a surprise twinge of back pain... and a choice. take up to 4 advil in a day or 2 aleve for all day relief. [ male announcer ] that's handy. ♪ starts with freshly-made pasta, and 100% real cheddar cheese. but what makes stouffer's mac n' cheese best of all. that moment you enjoy it at home. stouffer's. made with care for you or your family. that moment you enjoy it at home. i asked my husband to pay our bill, and he forgot. you have the it card and it's

your first time missing a payment, so there's no late fee. really? yep! so is your husband off the hook? no. he went out for milk last week and came back with a puppy. hold it. hold it. hold it. at discover, we treat you like you'd treat you. get the it card with late payment forgiveness. hello, disrupters. i'm karen finney. up this week, the gop, hillary clinton's confidante and more subpoenas in the bridgegate scandal. >> there is no republican party. >> the gop has lost that loving feeling. >> texas senator ted cruz, the high priest of self-promotion. >> why did he do that? is he cuckoo? >> if they took ted cruz out to dinner right now, he'd have to have a food taster. >> everyone wanted what barack